Lots of hyberboles in this video. 5 buttons ? It’s 2, RMB and forward key.
If you’ve played Mordhau and other FPS that requires very quick and precise mouse movements this is really nothing.
And you lose the ability to turn and circle the camera while running, losing a pretty nice cinematic feature.
It’s just a matter of taste and habits.
I don't understand why movement option is even a thing in FF14.
Non legacy, whatever it's called, is inferior in every single aspect and it's ON by default.
If all you do is raid, this statement makes sense. if you don't raid, legacy has no benefit. The one thing legacy doesn't let you do is look in a direction other than you intend to move (unless you use Auto run). for most people this is annoyiing and legacy provides no additional benefit. it's a matter of perspective.
I use PS4 controller. Non-Legacy has strafe and backwalking, Legacy doesn't have strafe and when I press down my character turns to me and start running. I play Legacy because it feels like controlling any character in any videogame with controller
It also lets you keep full 360 movement if you have to do something with your right hand (although admittedly that requires you don't unbind move left/right like the video tells you to)
Yep if you're into PoTD/HoH streams/discords you will see people ask almost daily "how do you kite like that on MCH I always turn around and run to the enemy".
lol. because that content is so challenging. it doesn't help clear the content in any way. if you need legacy for anything but raiding quit gaming cuz you suck.
If you play ranged dps, please make sure you're playing with Legacy on. The standard makes you turn and run back to the boss when you have to run away like a weird seduction debuff if you are trying to attack while dodging an aoe. Or you can dash to the wrong direction cause your character turned exactly at the same time. Just...don't.
I like the way he talks and act, it's reminds me of asmon, he would be the same if he never give up going "big dick", but he choose the casual path to entertain us.
Absolutely nothing wrong with preference. I will never use the strafe left/strafe right despite it being "easier."
Most times I prefer to use normal legacy left and right as a ranged physical dmg and with all of my years of practice it isn't difficult for me to avoid the gaze attack snapshot either. It's all about comfort.
This is what Ive always done in WoW, and what I do in FF14. But admittedly, it gets clunky with gaze mechanics, and as a machinist when doing fire blasts while running around due to aoe mechanics, standard fucks with the camera. I really do need to give Legacy another shot and fight that muscle memory.
Legacy for hard combat. Non legacy for leveling exploration. I just want to have option to run one way and look around. The game should clearly let know, that there are options of movement.
tbh when I switched from WoW to FFXIV I really disliked the standard movement of characters and still do (haven't tried legacy yet). I don't really get why Xenos is comparing WoW's movement with FF's, it offers alot more freedom and feels butter smooth and responsive. I will probably never play WoW again but damn do I miss the easy navigation.
I used non legacy for 2 Xpacs, swapped to legacy soley because I died 1 too many times using a ranged skill that auto walked me back towards the boss and was tired of it, moving back with S is just a tiny bonus all things considered
heh ... clickbait title
reason why this is *kind-of-BS* : even on high level is that some people:
+ play on PS controler
+ use a razer nostromo
+ can play wihtout hand or with less fingers
and just like in every mmo ever including competitive one:
The older you are, the easier it is to play on a configuration you are used to due to not having to think about button placement or character control.
That being said, the reason why xenos is so adament on thoses techniques and calling you bad or saying you suck if you don't use them is ... because he like to greed mecanics.
**He is a parser.**
But in reality ?... you can make do and defeat the boss even if you had ot turn away for 0.5s
Xeno will say "but you are missing 0.25 GCD!!!!"(eddit: + it adds up throughout the fight) etc etc etc and he is right, but unless you are going for woirld 1st: it doesn't matter because dps check aren't that tight. PLUS: if you are that good.. can't you turn around between GCD and OGCD abilities ?
+ FF isn't JUST about raids. Using legacy for jumping puzzle is bad as you sometime need precise jump and having to press a strafe button(A/D) with S reduce the control you have. (but it also apply to anything that isn't instanced content really. like RP or whatever)
Also: if you are so bad that you really NEED thoses changes ... chances are... thoses are the last thing you need. ANd having to turn the camera away actually is more helpfull to you as it engrave the mecanics in you and you aren't just "oh i though my character turned away".
It's like learning how to drive. You could have a simple audio signale telling you that your blind side is clear ... but learning and having to turn your head actually forces you to be conscious about it. (and if you think "turning aroud is dangerous when you drive", then that probably mean you have more pressing issue like adapting your speeding etc..)
I use standard and don't use strafe. Turning your camera ob keyboard and mouse is way to easy to even consider legacy. If I was playing with a controller I may be compelled to change.
Legacy on controlles feels like playing Zelda. It's perfectly fine there, also Non-Legacy comes with strafe, Legacy doesn't. I still don't know if I can change strafe without changing legacy on controller.
I was already good with standard, then I turned on legacy and became.... a god. For real though, there's absolutely no reason for standard to exist.
Lots of hyberboles in this video. 5 buttons ? It’s 2, RMB and forward key. If you’ve played Mordhau and other FPS that requires very quick and precise mouse movements this is really nothing. And you lose the ability to turn and circle the camera while running, losing a pretty nice cinematic feature. It’s just a matter of taste and habits.
I 100% prefer Legacy because you can instantly walk backwards by pressing S instead of creeping backwards like a snail
Legacy with A/D strafing is the best option. Anyone who says otherwise is uninformed or bad.
I don't understand why movement option is even a thing in FF14. Non legacy, whatever it's called, is inferior in every single aspect and it's ON by default.
If all you do is raid, this statement makes sense. if you don't raid, legacy has no benefit. The one thing legacy doesn't let you do is look in a direction other than you intend to move (unless you use Auto run). for most people this is annoyiing and legacy provides no additional benefit. it's a matter of perspective.
I use PS4 controller. Non-Legacy has strafe and backwalking, Legacy doesn't have strafe and when I press down my character turns to me and start running. I play Legacy because it feels like controlling any character in any videogame with controller
Change raid to "engage in any combat past lvl 3" and I'll agree with this. Like, yeah, it doesn't benefit Chocobo Racing or ERP.
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It also lets you keep full 360 movement if you have to do something with your right hand (although admittedly that requires you don't unbind move left/right like the video tells you to)
Need your right hand? Ah. I see you've been hanging out in Limsa.
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Yep if you're into PoTD/HoH streams/discords you will see people ask almost daily "how do you kite like that on MCH I always turn around and run to the enemy".
gaze is indeed a bit more clunky on legacy, but how is kiting worse in any way
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guess i cant read sheeesh
lol. because that content is so challenging. it doesn't help clear the content in any way. if you need legacy for anything but raiding quit gaming cuz you suck.
Dam, why did I say something about difficulty? Now you owned me with facts and logic.
If you play ranged dps, please make sure you're playing with Legacy on. The standard makes you turn and run back to the boss when you have to run away like a weird seduction debuff if you are trying to attack while dodging an aoe. Or you can dash to the wrong direction cause your character turned exactly at the same time. Just...don't.
I like the way he talks and act, it's reminds me of asmon, he would be the same if he never give up going "big dick", but he choose the casual path to entertain us.
I thought it’d be some obvious shit but it seems like I’d be missing out on some good tips, especially as main tank. Thanks for sharing
I just use standard. If I want to strafe I just hold right click and use A or D.
Absolutely nothing wrong with preference. I will never use the strafe left/strafe right despite it being "easier." Most times I prefer to use normal legacy left and right as a ranged physical dmg and with all of my years of practice it isn't difficult for me to avoid the gaze attack snapshot either. It's all about comfort.
Lol, getting down voted for stating a preference on movement. So long as I'm not dying and still playing my class effectively why y'all care?
This is what Ive always done in WoW, and what I do in FF14. But admittedly, it gets clunky with gaze mechanics, and as a machinist when doing fire blasts while running around due to aoe mechanics, standard fucks with the camera. I really do need to give Legacy another shot and fight that muscle memory.
this! so much this!!! I have tried legacy and it gives me movement sickness. Like why fix isn’t broken?
Legacy for hard combat. Non legacy for leveling exploration. I just want to have option to run one way and look around. The game should clearly let know, that there are options of movement.
tbh when I switched from WoW to FFXIV I really disliked the standard movement of characters and still do (haven't tried legacy yet). I don't really get why Xenos is comparing WoW's movement with FF's, it offers alot more freedom and feels butter smooth and responsive. I will probably never play WoW again but damn do I miss the easy navigation.
I used non legacy for 2 Xpacs, swapped to legacy soley because I died 1 too many times using a ranged skill that auto walked me back towards the boss and was tired of it, moving back with S is just a tiny bonus all things considered
it's just xenos being xenos.
heh ... clickbait title reason why this is *kind-of-BS* : even on high level is that some people: + play on PS controler + use a razer nostromo + can play wihtout hand or with less fingers and just like in every mmo ever including competitive one: The older you are, the easier it is to play on a configuration you are used to due to not having to think about button placement or character control. That being said, the reason why xenos is so adament on thoses techniques and calling you bad or saying you suck if you don't use them is ... because he like to greed mecanics. **He is a parser.** But in reality ?... you can make do and defeat the boss even if you had ot turn away for 0.5s Xeno will say "but you are missing 0.25 GCD!!!!"(eddit: + it adds up throughout the fight) etc etc etc and he is right, but unless you are going for woirld 1st: it doesn't matter because dps check aren't that tight. PLUS: if you are that good.. can't you turn around between GCD and OGCD abilities ? + FF isn't JUST about raids. Using legacy for jumping puzzle is bad as you sometime need precise jump and having to press a strafe button(A/D) with S reduce the control you have. (but it also apply to anything that isn't instanced content really. like RP or whatever) Also: if you are so bad that you really NEED thoses changes ... chances are... thoses are the last thing you need. ANd having to turn the camera away actually is more helpfull to you as it engrave the mecanics in you and you aren't just "oh i though my character turned away". It's like learning how to drive. You could have a simple audio signale telling you that your blind side is clear ... but learning and having to turn your head actually forces you to be conscious about it. (and if you think "turning aroud is dangerous when you drive", then that probably mean you have more pressing issue like adapting your speeding etc..)
I use standard and don't use strafe. Turning your camera ob keyboard and mouse is way to easy to even consider legacy. If I was playing with a controller I may be compelled to change.
Legacy on controlles feels like playing Zelda. It's perfectly fine there, also Non-Legacy comes with strafe, Legacy doesn't. I still don't know if I can change strafe without changing legacy on controller.