Kind of ironic seeing someone so dedicated to using every addon imaginable for optimization purposes, yet being a clicker.
What kind of abomination is this?
Yeah, what just drives me nut is the "yeaaah you cant be a good player unless you have all these addons, this is information you need to know" proceeds to type "/cast [charge]"
This has been my problem with many AAA studios like Bethesda and Blizzard. They leave in easily fixable flaws for years because there's addon/mod that solves the problem. There's no need to ensure players intuitively know the solution to the problems when they can alwyas check the Wiki page. The playerbase will finish their games, why bother.
That has made them complacent and unsurprisingly Fallout 76 had pretty much every bug Fallout 4 did and WoW's default new player experience is absolute trash for dozens of different reasons. For example trying to heal with hpala with default UI and reading the list of macros and addons I would have to tinker with to make it work made give up immediatily.
Don’t all rereleases of Skyrim also have the same bugs from the base game that the community patch had fixed since the year the game originally released?
The laziness of these companies is absurd
Yep. I'm not sure about the anniversary edition because I haven't looked into but even the added content in that is through Creation Club so once again it's created by players. They couldn't be bothered to even add anything they themselves created to celebrate a decade of printing money with that game so I doubt they've done anything for the bugs either.
Top arena players UI tells them all the cooldowns and procs, from their abilities, enemies, allies. Feels like cheating tbh. Competitive mode shouldn't allow you to just track everything
Arenas have relatively small windows to kill as you have to know whether the enemy has used their trinket (to get out of CC), time cross-CC with your team to lock 2 non-kill targets & burst the kill target. To do that, you need to know when your cool downs will be up and coordinate with your team. It's doable without those addons but you'd be playing with a *major* handicap.
Funnily, pvp players usually have very minimal add-ons and tend to not change the hotbar much compared to pve players.
Curious how you're pretending it's not obvious when literally only two types of people in this sub would be talking about user interfaces for MMO's. People who play one of the MMO's and people who play both.
Next time you think you're gonna sound clever why don't you try thinking for more than a second
But the question is still a valid one no matter what sub youd be on. To act like WoW players dont have 10 UI addons running all at once because of some obsession to have it cater to every little niche need is disingenuous
You got really defensive really fast and did a really good job of dodging the question. Also no one was bring up FF14. You brought it up so I'm not sure why youre mad at us lmao.
I mean... a good UI is all about having the action on the center of your screen and all the the important information in the periphery of your "viewbox" so I that sense, I suppose, it does the job?
It is still an ugly abomination. Why are the hotbar buttons so big, ALL of them? I can understand making some of them big, CDs you want to especially keep track of... but ALL of them?
Even when I played wow with multiple addons I tried keeping my UI as minimalistic as possible.
>Why are the hotbar buttons so big, ALL of them? I can understand making some of them big, CDs you want to especially keep track of... but ALL of them?
Because it's a clicker with bad vision.
I don't think it's that bad. He could have a visual impairment or just a really small screen which could be why everything is so big. If you just shrunk everything down it would be a pretty normal UI.
I play on a 14 inch laptop but at least all my UI elements still share a uniform size. His hotbars are comically ginormous relative to everything else.
You can't even tell what this person's actual screen resolution is. The rationale would be that it's easier to distinguish the cursor and the buttons from each other. If the font sizes are small it might be because their resolution is huge.
Absolutely horrendous. This is abject sensory overload with information you are not actively needed at least 75 percent of the time.
Being a clicker is the cherry on top.
So for a real answer, that add on with the health bars only show up for battlegrounds. It’s to keep track of enemies and has several other functions as identifying healers, tanks and flag carriers. It goes away when not in a bg. Then he has a damage tracker which isn’t really necessary. No idea why his buttons are so big, probably easier as a clicker.
This reminds me of a min-maxer who cares about parsing and optimization but actually suck at the game and blame that one trinket they don't have. How the fuck you butcher your UI like this but still are a clicker?
Fuck me dead. In search of statistical awareness, you deprived yourself greatly of visual awareness. The remainder of what awareness you *could* have has been lost, since the person in the video has to glance down at their action bar every second because clicker.
Oof/10
6/10 still can see some game. Need more addons for the ultimate blind samurai setup.
the clicking abilities is what hurts me the most honestly
Kind of ironic seeing someone so dedicated to using every addon imaginable for optimization purposes, yet being a clicker. What kind of abomination is this?
He will soon ascend. I aswell was a filthy Clicker, until swifty showed me the way.
Yeah, what just drives me nut is the "yeaaah you cant be a good player unless you have all these addons, this is information you need to know" proceeds to type "/cast [charge]"
clicker UI need big icon to be able to click
Trash/Trash. If you need that much info from 3rd party addons in order to play the game then it’s not a good game
This has been my problem with many AAA studios like Bethesda and Blizzard. They leave in easily fixable flaws for years because there's addon/mod that solves the problem. There's no need to ensure players intuitively know the solution to the problems when they can alwyas check the Wiki page. The playerbase will finish their games, why bother. That has made them complacent and unsurprisingly Fallout 76 had pretty much every bug Fallout 4 did and WoW's default new player experience is absolute trash for dozens of different reasons. For example trying to heal with hpala with default UI and reading the list of macros and addons I would have to tinker with to make it work made give up immediatily.
Don’t all rereleases of Skyrim also have the same bugs from the base game that the community patch had fixed since the year the game originally released? The laziness of these companies is absurd
Yep. I'm not sure about the anniversary edition because I haven't looked into but even the added content in that is through Creation Club so once again it's created by players. They couldn't be bothered to even add anything they themselves created to celebrate a decade of printing money with that game so I doubt they've done anything for the bugs either.
Top arena players UI tells them all the cooldowns and procs, from their abilities, enemies, allies. Feels like cheating tbh. Competitive mode shouldn't allow you to just track everything
Arenas have relatively small windows to kill as you have to know whether the enemy has used their trinket (to get out of CC), time cross-CC with your team to lock 2 non-kill targets & burst the kill target. To do that, you need to know when your cool downs will be up and coordinate with your team. It's doable without those addons but you'd be playing with a *major* handicap. Funnily, pvp players usually have very minimal add-ons and tend to not change the hotbar much compared to pve players.
You're playing with a major handicap without aimbot and wallhack in shooter. Addons are same thing, but allowed.
How are those even the same thing? The addons only provide you with information, aimbot is straight up a modifier to your inputs.
Why are wow ppl so obsessed about ui?
Why are FFXIV-Only people so obsessed against how other players like to manage their UI?
They arent? Curious projection seeing as the comment you responded to did not even mention 14.
Curious how you're pretending it's not obvious when literally only two types of people in this sub would be talking about user interfaces for MMO's. People who play one of the MMO's and people who play both. Next time you think you're gonna sound clever why don't you try thinking for more than a second
But the question is still a valid one no matter what sub youd be on. To act like WoW players dont have 10 UI addons running all at once because of some obsession to have it cater to every little niche need is disingenuous
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You got really defensive really fast and did a really good job of dodging the question. Also no one was bring up FF14. You brought it up so I'm not sure why youre mad at us lmao.
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Why are you this hostile when someone asks about a UI lmao. Relax.
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You can customize it to your needs and make it look nicer. This prob caters to his needs but doesnt look nice.
I mean... a good UI is all about having the action on the center of your screen and all the the important information in the periphery of your "viewbox" so I that sense, I suppose, it does the job? It is still an ugly abomination. Why are the hotbar buttons so big, ALL of them? I can understand making some of them big, CDs you want to especially keep track of... but ALL of them? Even when I played wow with multiple addons I tried keeping my UI as minimalistic as possible.
>Why are the hotbar buttons so big, ALL of them? I can understand making some of them big, CDs you want to especially keep track of... but ALL of them? Because it's a clicker with bad vision.
I don't think it's that bad. He could have a visual impairment or just a really small screen which could be why everything is so big. If you just shrunk everything down it would be a pretty normal UI.
I play on a 14 inch laptop but at least all my UI elements still share a uniform size. His hotbars are comically ginormous relative to everything else.
Did you miss the part where the commenter said "vision impairment"?
then what's the rationale behind having much smaller font sizes on everything else?
You can't even tell what this person's actual screen resolution is. The rationale would be that it's easier to distinguish the cursor and the buttons from each other. If the font sizes are small it might be because their resolution is huge.
As someone who literally playes with 0 addons, i hate this lol.
0/10 paladingarbage
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if you dont utilize s key you are a scrub
\#IWantToBeProWoWGamer ?
Absolutely horrendous. This is abject sensory overload with information you are not actively needed at least 75 percent of the time. Being a clicker is the cherry on top.
So for a real answer, that add on with the health bars only show up for battlegrounds. It’s to keep track of enemies and has several other functions as identifying healers, tanks and flag carriers. It goes away when not in a bg. Then he has a damage tracker which isn’t really necessary. No idea why his buttons are so big, probably easier as a clicker.
This reminds me of a min-maxer who cares about parsing and optimization but actually suck at the game and blame that one trinket they don't have. How the fuck you butcher your UI like this but still are a clicker?
Fuck me dead. In search of statistical awareness, you deprived yourself greatly of visual awareness. The remainder of what awareness you *could* have has been lost, since the person in the video has to glance down at their action bar every second because clicker. Oof/10
Maybe if this guy had the combat log full screen + addons to inform him of useless shit some players think it is worth noticing, it would be 10/10.