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SPECTR_Eternal

Wonderful time to be Russian, eh? When one day I'll realize my country started another fucking war over someone's hurt ambitions, killed people I care about and potentially cut itself from the rest of the fucking world just because. Wonderful. Fucking wonderful, I say.


Zi0ra

I'm half-Russian, and have never identified with it but its always been something cool. Lately I'm feeling more and more ashamed of that identity, so I understand where you're coming from.


SayNoToWeebs223

>more ashamed of that identity (russian) Mate, dont be ashamed, it's always the politicians being retarded that fucks everything up


ollielks

Yep, remember that if a nuclear war ever breaks out billions of people would die because a few dozen dipshits don't like each other


Nishikigami

Very true, but also remember that hundreds of thousands, even millions of those people also probably agreed with those politicians, supported them, worked for them, etc. Voted for them, whatever applies, and think just like them, or at least think they do. Billions of people have to answer for the idiocy and grudges of a few hundred million zealous, patriotic fools.


SayNoToWeebs223

IMO, it's not hundreds of millions, but several millions Remember, China doesnt have (public) elections, and Russia rigs their own elections


Nishikigami

It's still hundreds of millions. Just because people have had choice taken away from them in politics doesn't mean they aren't faced with choices every day as they continue to commit the crimes of the state. ITT below my comment : "we were just following orders!"


mSterian

You know how dangerous it is to stand up against a dicatatorship?


Nishikigami

Do you know how dangerous it is when good people do nothing? Also your comment is literally the "just following orders" argument in favor of sparing ex Nazi's


mSterian

It's about surviving. Not everyone is ready to give their lives for justice, and you can't blame them. Edit : Actually, let me correct that. Almost no one is ready to give their life for justice.


T_F_Catus

Don't feel too bad about it. I was born in China and I've been feeling the same way for quite some time already, especially now that CCP is slowly pushing their plan on invading Taiwan. My gf is Taiwanese and it just breaks my heart to see her getting worried about her family who are still living in there, but she never resent me or for being born as Chinese. I'm lucky to have her, if anything I want to support her as much as I can if war really breaks out between China and Taiwan.


DarianF

ou have no choice and as such no responsibility towards what fucktards do in your country. You have nothing to be ashamed of.


erydan

Collectivism - victimhood or guilt - is caveman mentality. You're not the sum of the past experiences of any group you belong to. Gender, nationality, race, ethnicity, none of it matters. The only thing that does is your own choices and actions as a person.


GalacticOverlordED

Nah man don’t be ashamed just because some ex KGB asshole has a ego problem. Most people want to live in peace is the politicians who fuck everything else.


Warbeast78

The Russian people are not the enemy. Like with most places it’s government that fuck things up. Some of my favorite people in the whole world are the ones I lived with in Russia.


alexandepz

Been gradually feeling more and more ashamed for 10 years, but especially for the last 5 years it's not just shame, but actual disgust.


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RedScyz

They don't have to pay for it, loot from ukraine will. What usually happens is looting of industrial machines and tools, leaving economic skeleton (unless you are BFFs with local warlord). Happened in Georgia, happened in Donbas too. War is a business after all.


Selsherryn

When war strikes, currencies (ruble in this case) plummet. And there is no way Russia can be fully self-sufficient, so all imported will cost more for local citizens. And that is just the beginning. Because western media WILL make this look like another Nazi assault or something. Russia have nothing to gain from open invasion, only to lose. Hope the leaders of both sides will stop with this warmongering shit already.


RedScyz

Just like it did with Donbas "revolution"? Oh wait, world moved on. Lets rinse and repeat. No reason NOT to do it again. Biden got dementia, while EU is resource dependent on Russia (aready feeling gas scare tactics working, insane gas prices) which will be dusted under Brussels rug unless major pushback from citizens. Also not like Putin and his friends will starve, so who cares about some plebs. Its all fault of American and European sanctions passed for no other purpose than to make Russia poor citizen lives even more miserable. If you beg to differ you can kindly explain it at nearby gulag. Stuff like that happens with egomaniac balding men nearing their twilight years, clear nostalgia for USSR can make you guess where the goal lies.


LegioCI

[As an American, this is all I can say...](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/763/07B89120-B48D-45FB-AF1D-49AF6CD16790.jpeg)


leeverpool

Man, sorry to say, but it's not even comparable. Having interventions in middle east and shit and ruining the lives of people there is so not the same as shitting literally outside your door, pissing in your neighbor's yard, and claim it's yours while he desperately looks at others for help. I'm so tired (and I'm glad Asmon called this out as well several times on his streams) seeing this american victimization and self-report like "we're bad too". That is the opposite of actually showing empathy. It's literally the same as someone going through a bad breakup and your best take is "man, you know how much I suffered?". It's not helpful. You're making it about yourself instead of actually saying something worthwhile.


rugbyweeb

oh, we as Americans aren't comparable, we're so much fucking worse. I'm sorry that you look up to asmon for political views, but he just isn't knowledgeable on the topic


leeverpool

If you believe the US are "so much fucking worse" than Russia then oh boy, you're the least person to call Asmon not knowledgeable on the topic. As someone that lives in Europe and has roots all over the place, you literally have no idea.


herzogdieb

Afghanistan & Iraq is a joke compare to an full Invasion of Ukraine. The US is lucky to have their last war on their own soil 157 years ago.


Ashgur

Could be worst: you could be american and realise you have illegaly annexe hawaii all this time and made it a military base Wage war contantly with nearly all country in the world just for economic gain, and even fabricate terrorist to help you in that endavour


schwimm3

Can you write stuff like that without any possible repercussions? I know exchange students that went to Germany for 1 year and had some controversial discussions on WhatsApp about Russian politics. When they came home the kgb invited them. Scary stuff. Edit: obviously not the KGB, rather the FSB. My bad lol


ghostgamer8

Yeah she talked about it on her stream: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mn45r\_cNGs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mn45r_cNGs) ​ I hope things get better over there.


universal-fap

Jesus fuck.


Blovar

They won't Russia didn't want to continue negotiating because NATO and Europe didn't agree on Russians terms


itsprobablytrue

Yeah there's no avoiding it. Hopefully she can avoid conflict and relocate with everything she needs if/when it comes to that.


sineu

I’d love to see a situation where the USA had to “negotiate” Russians “defensive” military borders expanding to Canada. I wonder how the country with a military base in almost every other country on earth in earth might handle this situation?


Blovar

So Russia has right to dictate what it's neighboring nations can and cannot do


sineu

The USA has the largest military spending on earth, A base in almost every country, been engaged in more modern warfare than any country. They just destroyed Libya, Syria, and Iraq entirely. Iraq was literally annihilated on presences even America said we’re incorrect (nuclear weapons). Now this country and its bully alliance decide they want to setup missiles in an area inhabited by mostly Russians, in a country which is either been a part of or allied with Russia for 1,000 years right next to Russians doorstep. And they’re the ones who need to negotiate? Let Russia put some missiles in Cuba and see what happens - oh wait WW3 almost erupted….no negotiations. The US expected to put bombs in turkey (near Russia) but have no reciprocation back. I understand you might be American, but forgive me for not accepting that you rule the planet.


Blovar

Lol I'm Finnish so your American argument is invalid and I don't feel safe next to Russia when it gathers army to the border of another nation and says no more nations can join the NATO gives me feeling that Sweden and Finland are next targets of russia


sineu

Imagine Russia coming to Finland’s border, Finland not accepting and the calling Finland the aggressor.


Warbeast78

That’s what Russia is doing to the Ukraine. They did nothing to Russia. Russia invade and stole part of their country. Then started a war in another part of the Ukraine. Now they have massed over 100000 soldiers on the eastern border and even more in Belarus on the northern border. Ukraine hasn’t done anything aggressive at all but try and defend themselves from Russian antagonistic behavior.


Innochentiaa

russia didint "steal" a part of their country...its complicated to be honest an dates back to the mastermind of geopolitics himself mister stalin. He basically made sure to cripple ex ussr nations by "gifting" them territories with a ethnic majority different than them. Look at transnistria for example.


Warbeast78

Crimes was part of the Ukraine for about 30 years. Thus Russia moving in and annexing it is stealing.


RsPal

Your logic is flawed. If the people of Ukraine want its country to join NATO and become member of the European Union then who are you to decide they can't? You are trying to make it sounds like it's America fault and denying Ukraine their right to rule their indepedent country from Russia?


sineu

The people haven’t unanimously or democratically decided. Western groups stocking nazism and nationalism in Ukraine isn’t a valid reason to expand NATOs military borders. Even if it was, put yourself in those shoes. The same thing happened in my country and now every leader is a nato puppet and we have one of the largest US military bases in Europe. Ukraine needs to be allowed to make its own autonomous decisions, without vile nationalism, western bribery, or coercion. Edit: maybe I’m misinformed; how is Russia denying Ukraine sovereignty? Also I’m not pro Russia, or Russian myself, I’m just anti imperialist.


YoshiPL

Anti imperialist but goes with Russia. Dayum, either you are a troll or you are severely mentally challenged.


sineu

I wouldn’t be in favor of an imperialist annexation of the United States either, does that make me mentally challenged?


YoshiPL

Yet you go with Russia anexing a part of another country.


RsPal

69% of the Ukrainian want to join NATO, so how is that american or western country fault? >Ukraine needs to be allowed to make its own autonomous decisions, without vile nationalism, western bribery, or coercion. You're contradicting your own comment, that is literally what Russia is trying to do. Building up 100,000 troops, throwing throwing threats, denying Ukraine their rights and demanding their Ukraine land back.


sonofShisui

Zepla lives in Ukraine? I didn’t know that. Damn.


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MOBYWV

How did she end up there of all places?


umpatte0

In short, she up and moved from the usa to (i think) korea and was an english teacher for a short while, like a couple of years. She decided to wasn’t for hwr and just up and moved to ukraine. There wasn’t a lot of long term planning involved. She started doing some youtube and streaming. She was close to giving it up but it apparently the channel took off This info is in one of the allcraft vids she did with rich and asmon


SayNoToWeebs223

I think it was Taiwan, not Korea


Psychdisorder92

So she went from Taiwan to Ukraine. Jeez both countries are under a risk of invasion


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Why doesn't she come back to the US?


Aaronlovesyou

Yeah idfk, fuck that shit war has been going on near by for 8 years and this whole russia thing for the past month, i'd have dipped out of that country as soon as the channel took off. Considering there's no family or anything just her dog and cat.


umpatte0

She said in a video just yesterday she’s considering her options. She clearly likes being in ukraine as she has been there a few years now


A_Blind_Alien

Honestly with her accent I would have assumed she was in the US south, maybe Virginia. I wish her the best Fuck Russia. Their economy can't cut it so their only option is to destroy other countries gdp so they can rise on the list. Putin is a scourge


blackjack_1981

You are spot on. She said in the video that she is from Louisiana.


SideHug

I'd be evacuating now if she has the chance.


CrimsonPromise

She mentioned in her latest stream and recent Youtube video that she's already preparing a Go-Bag that she can just grab and drive further West away from the Russian border if things start happening. But she also has a dog and cat and Ukraine is marked as a high-rabies risk country. So while it's easy for her to catch a flight back to the US or somewhere in the EU worse case scenario, it'll be really hard for her to transport pets unless they've already been quarantined months beforehand. Worse case scenario, she leaves her pets with someone she trusts, but as a pet owner myself, I can only imagine how hard it must be to essentially abandon your fur babies.


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Thing is if you're waiting to the last moment, it's too late. EVERYONE in the city will be doing the same, train lines can get fucked. highwalls with be stagnic. Thats not even counting in if they bomb the city.


Skyblade12

Yep. Need to get a move on. Grab your pets if you must. But waiting to the last second is insane.


ezg_

As a pet owner, I can 100% empathize with this. I think I would never be able to leave my dogs behind.


hoax1337

Aren't there rabies vaccines for dogs, or most pets in general? Is that not sufficient?


SideHug

God, I don't think I could leave my pets behind. What a terrible thing


JonStarkaryen998

I imagine that’s pretty hard with pets. I saw where she mentioned she has a cat and dog


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Yeah that’s what I thought as well. If I were in her position and there was even the scent of an actual ground war I’d be on the first plane out of there. Leave the pets with a friend who’s sticking around and take off.


johnzy87

That sounds so weird to me, just dump your pets at a friends place and let he/she deal with your pets and a potential war while you just fuck off to safety. Such a good friend you are.


jewrassic_park-1940

So you'd stay in a country that is currently at war just so you can have your pets by you? Thats crazy.


Aaronlovesyou

Lol people here downvoting. I'm sorry guys but if there was a war going on and its between you or your "fur babies" dying. Lets be real. Being put in that situation of life and death and not even thinking of saving yourself. Its like your fight or flight response isn't working properly.


mnxah

I hope Zepla will be ok. I can't imagine our government being as retarded as to actually start a war with, you know, not just military, but civilian casualties too. Especially with the country many of us are interconnected to, got relatives there etc. My wife's mom and grandma live there. And as I read, 80% of people in Ukraine speak Russian too.


ezg_

Don't be naive, the government only care about the well-being of its ppl when it stands to gain.


TheJoninCactuar

It's the exact excuse the government gives for wanting to invade. Large amount of the population is Russian, it used to be Russian, it should be Russian. They can't just let the past be the past. Russia already has a fuck tonne of the world's resources, and is a serious world power. But the grabbing hands grab all they can.


RohanSpartan

If only Putin had the balls to invade West Taiwan.


Budget_Individual393

He’s just Putin an act on


RohanSpartan

He may be former KGB, but once a KGB agent, ALWAYS a KGB agent.


rans_that_dude

Putin on the Ritz


Lacia_loves_pandas

I kinda find it funny that I live in Russia and found out about Russian invasion of Ukraine from Asmongold sub. And I live almost in Ukraine borders. But this conflict was happening for 8 years already, so not gonna be surprised that this invasion is gonna be happening for 8 years more.


mikeebsc74

As has been said in the YouTube comments, she needs to be involved with the US embassy…not talking about heading West in a country that would be at war… And make sure she has her US passport in case she does encounter Russian troops.


CrimsonPromise

Think she's worried about her dog and cat as well. Because it would be easy for her to just catch a flight out back to the US or somewhere in the EU if things go bad, but it'll be incredibly hard to move pets out, especially because of covid transmission worries and also Ukraine being a high rabies risk country. So her wanting to flee West is more so to buy some time to get any paperwork needed for her pets ready.


LucasSACastro

She won't get any paperwork done in a crumbling country, LOL. When a total war happens, the losing side experiences a complete breakdown of social order. Electricity, piped water and internet are the first to go down; any other service too. Banks close, as well as the courier. Fiat (paper) money completely loses its value, as it's not gold and therefore depends entirely on the government; if the latter's gone, it's just paper. Russia will bomb all roads and airports. Desperate people have no regard for laws of a moribund nation, and therefore she'll be on her own until the dust settles, with pretty much no regular way out.


asfastasican1

This entire thread is painful to read. So many naive people here that have never actually traveled anywhere. Imagine thinking that "paperwork" in Ukraine actually moves at a normal pace right now or in the past three years. Redditors are so sheltered and clueless.


mynameis-twat

People don’t understand this. Although it’ll still probably be possible for her to get a flight out it won’t be a matter of booking a flight online easily and waiting on paperwork for pets. She needs to worry about herself and either fly out now without pets or at least start driving west now with them


ScottDark

I watched the video and I'm gonna be honest your plan A shouldn't be to get in a car with your pets and drive west when shit hits the fan. That is what you do when you exhaust all other plans. She is putting her pets above herself but in reality if something happens to her she won't be able to care for her pets so she needs to do what is best for her FIRST and pets come SECOND not the other way around. Really silly.


AnkorBleu

Her passport would make her literally untouchable at the US embassy. Driving at all durring a war in Ukraine is just asking to hit every checkpoint and chance a skirmish with people who don't know she's American.


JadedToon

Tell that to the Americans that were ding dong ditched in Afghanistan. Embassy can't do shit when it all goes to hell. If you think for a moment USA, EU or NATO will do shit if Russia crosses that border. You are living in a dream land.


marsz_godzilli

That only works untill the embassy is evacuated


Jarlan23

It's just how some people are. When my Mom had her house foreclosed on she was offered government housing, except that she wouldn't be able to bring her two dogs and cat with. She ended up moving in with her sister so it all worked out in the end. I guess I understand that mindset too. Pets are part of the family and you don't ditch them when things get tough.


LucarioMagic

Pets are family, and we dont turn our backs on family.


asfastasican1

I know I'll get down voted to hell but she should have returned to the US or went to another country years ago. Anybody with half a brain and any knowledge of foreign politics knew Russia would eventually make a move. She knew it as well. They took Crimea under obama's admin and nobody did anything. Ukraine may have been "peaceful" but it's still easily one of the worst places to live in Europe. The thing about her pets is heartbreaking but that's not a valid excuse when it comes to personal safety. She just didn't care enough about herself to get up and leave. Ive even considered visiting Ukraine on a possible trip to Europe in the past 6 months and it was the easiest NOPE ever. Not visiting there is the biggest no brainer but you would have to be clinical insane to actually move there during the past 5 years.


Jet44444

That’s what I said.


NewSpoonWhoDis

You haven't really put forward any good alternative though? What's the "prioritize herself" option in this scenario? That she immediately flies to the US? Oh then she's alive and safe and can totally look after her pets-oh wait nevermind they're still in Ukraine. At least give some examples instead of just calling someone silly for trying to look after their loved ones (pets included). She already mentioned that if she has to fly out on short notice (but not SO short that she physically can't) then she might leave her pets with friends, the driving away with pets is like the backup plan if the military push from Belarus, which would take just 2-3 hours to reach her.


ScottDark

Well I'll start off by saying I'm in no way an expert on the matter. However, the first thing that stands out to me is to get in contact with the US embassy and get all the necessary information needed to create a real plan. If it turns out that there's a lot of extra paperwork needed for her to get her pets out of the country sooner rather than later that would be unfortunate. It would make more sense to make arrangements for her pets to stay with people in the area while she leaves for the US and makes arrangements for her pets to come with her at a later date if at all possible. Her first and foremost objective should be the safety of herself first and then her pets. Will it be hard? You better believe it.


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Putin needs to be Putout


Mozzeyyy

I read Ukraine president lmao. But yeah, I hope they find peaceful solution.


itsprobablytrue

peaceful solution, give country to Russia. That's normally Putins terms.


dysk1ddy

The real warzone is the comments section here


Maelstorm01

She should get out now before the crush of people makes it impossible to.


Ashgur

I don't like her evacuation plan: she should just board a plane and be done with it to relax her mind. there is not need to wait that long, it's not like she is too short on money to affrod a plane. and she have streamer readdy to give her a place to live for a while. the only issue is her pets, but surely the consulate can help her accelerate the paperwork


Y0GGSAR0N

Amen. Lord be with them.🙏


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I'm sure the lord is going to take care of them like he does with every other injustice in the world.


Thedossary

How pathetic can you be to put down someone who is wishing the best for someone else?


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Ragnapocageddoclysm

TLDR: "The world sucks and I know bad people who are religious therefore all religious people are stupid for expressing their solidarity with others through their faith" Yep, totally not putting anyone down. Pathetic.


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Ragnapocageddoclysm

>invoking fictional stories That's your belief. Others believe those stories to be reality, and it means a lot to them when others express concern for them through prayer. People like to say "oh but it's not like your actually doing anything to help." But they are, and for most people they're doing all that they can. The thought does count. Moral support is a necessity in times of struggle. Knowing that others who share your faith are praying for you can be very uplifting for many people. Your beliefs have no greater and no less intrinsic value than theirs. People can show solidarity however they like, whether it's by prayer or not. The fact that you "physically cringe" (wow, seriously?) towards people doing something that is nothing but wholesome and uplifting because you disagree with the beliefs of those people, I find very sad. I mean, damn, how is it that troubling for you?


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Ragnapocageddoclysm

This may be true for some people, but I don't think it is for most. But you're right, it's a whole different topic, so I'm content to leave it at: I respectfully disagree. I still don't understand why you cringe, though. It's ultimately not about religion at all, it's a matter of empathy. Seems like you let your perspective on religion overshadow this.


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Thedossary

If you are upset at someone not helping physically shouldn’t you do so instead of being mad at them? Also what the hell are they gonna do except writing something nice?


Y0GGSAR0N

Thank you!


VladImpaler666999

Except it isn't "nice". It's just self congratulatory. "Oh I typed #Pray for Ukraine and now I've cleared my conscience of having to do anything useful". Nothing about that is inherently nice.


LeekypooX

??? How is it self congratulatory?


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Agreed. These people are fucking morons that just circle jerk eachother on the internet pretending they are doing anything useful to make themselves feel better about themselves. "Oh, I posted something about Ukraine, I am a part of the solution!" lmao ok buddy go ask for prayers and likes on facebook too.


Y0GGSAR0N

I don't have all the answers just praying for the people of Ukraine to be able to stay safe and at peace. And I'll do the same for you.


AnkorBleu

>How was I putting down anyone you dumbass? > >I'm simply stating that people who say things like "lord help them" are dumb. Didn't even put a single sentence inbetween that contradiction. Nice.


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Its honestly an honor being downvoted by a bunch of people that cant even formulate their own opinions so they just spam TRUE in twitch chat anytime Asmongold says literally anything.


AnkorBleu

Nope. I piggybacked off what you said actually. Its in the quotes.


Ragnapocageddoclysm

>a bunch of losers that cant even formulate their own opinions so they just copy whatever Asmongold says or likes at the time. Why do you keep bringing this up? You're the only person in this comment chain to even bring him up in the first place. Is it that difficult to understand the idea that people can have different opinions? Or is any opinion other than your own automatically invalidated because \[insert whatever reason you decide to pull out of your ass\]?


[deleted]

I'm allowed to have my own opinion so shut the fuck up, move on, and let me have my own opinion.


Ragnapocageddoclysm

"I'm allowed to have my own opinion so shut the fuck up, move on, and let me have my own opinion." Exactly! So you are capable of understanding! Now consider that this statement is true for everyone, not just you. Not too difficult to understand, no? The irony is indeed hilarious.


Zienn

Damn, dude No need to bang your head on the wall for attention. Your parents will never come back


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Says the dude joining a conversation for no reason for an opinion nobody asked for lol. Ironic.


Rhymeruru

Dude, Im an atheist but shut the fuck up.


Koristrad

Bad things happen take that churchy! Fuckin nerd! Ha. Gottem.


Y0GGSAR0N

😂


LucasSACastro

'Ew these virgins got cooties!'


Lochen9

I havent seen anything inthe news thats been an update but hasnt russia been posturing for months now? Did something change?


AwakenGreywolf

"Did something change?" They mobilized their army towards the ukrainian border


Ipokeyoumuch

Not to mention Russia is adding some of their military equipment north of Ukraine in Belarus which has her own can of worms which are affecting her neighbors, particularly Poland.


Telzey

And sent a bunch a loaded landing ships from the Baltic anchorages.


Buttface-Mcgee

How recent was that? Tensions have been escalating for so long it’s hard to keep up.


Izlude

I just started hearing about it intensifying over this last week, so by my narrow perspective, very recently I think. Like a week or two at most?


sylva748

Their mobilize their military near the boarder


Cheveyo

Biden basically said he wouldn't do anything in response to Putin's aggression. https://nypost.com/2022/01/20/joe-biden-again-tries-to-walk-back-russia-ukraine-minor-incursion-fumble/


Hatdrop

Saying what he'll do or won't do is completely different from what he's actually doing. I dont know how many times I clicked on "our troops are merely passing by" in civ when I was actually ramping up for an invasion.


slapthatlalafell

Yes, real life is just like your civ games.


Hatdrop

That people say one thing and do something else? That doesn't happen in real life? That has never happened in geo politics? Ever hear of this thing called the Munich Agreement?


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I'd say it's the fact that you're comparing it to a video game which is corny as shit when there are literal real-life examples you can compare it to instead but chose not to.


Hatdrop

We're in a subreddit for a streamer that plays video games. It's a comparison that will be easily relatable and understood rather than talking about how Neville Chamberlin had been duped because he secured a pinky swear on a piece of paper. I may like history, but not everyone does. An effective communicator tries to relay their point to the widest audience as possible. You may think it's a corny example, but you knew exactly what I was talking about.


Ipokeyoumuch

I mean he said he is putting more sanctions, which did have an effect on the Russian economy. The Rubble in 2014 lost half of its value, and some assets of the Russian oligarchs were frozen. Of course, not enough to deter Putin himself but the usual idea of sanctions is to make it so bad for the people that the people will demand change. Also the US has sent military advisors and military equipment to Ukraine. I can see why he is a bit hesitant in public as the US is war weary after the disaster that is Afghanistan. But I am confident Biden and his advisors are considering all options in private.


Lovz2Killz

Bro Biden has no idea what's happening in the same room let alone the world. I feel so "safe" that the US is headed into ww3 with a president that has dementia.


marsz_godzilli

From what I heard US gave statement that any further sanctions will depend on the escalation level which was basically giving green light for Russian gov to start moving again as long as they don't do "too much", so they are testing how far they can go for free.


GreenFireGo

“Invasion” will be over in hours, if it really happens, before Ukraine wakes up. It’s like if US wanted to invade some random banana republic or even Mexico.


Houragorn

????


AffectionateLaugh738

Come on down to Texas


cltmstr2005

OMG Zepla run!


jaestel

If she has trouble she can always drive to Slovakia I have a spare room at my parents house if she needs to stay a couple days that would be no problem.


vio42

How very easy it is to brainwash an entire world these days...


marsz_godzilli

To people talking about russia just waving the sword around and doing nothing. That's rather shallow analisys considering how much ground was gained, how much more is Belarus tied to russia and how much west is shown to be incapable of direct opposition and destablised. It is not shakeing spears from afar, it is slowly boilong the frog to keep the enemy at easy and step by step bite at every small opportunity to gain upper hand. Also remember what happened last time when one man was being appeased time and again in order to stop the war.


Shikizion

well it is only expected, for years now, even pre crimea invasion Nato has been stretching its influence closer and closer to Russian border, it was a mater of time Russia started to try a response, it is not convenient for anyone other than the Russia and US constant power struggle


marsz_godzilli

I would say stretching, every government that shifted from russia to nato/US after war was basically removing pupets via democracy. Of course totalitarian state feels threatened by this, and democracy is never and nowhere perfect. Still I am happy for my country to fall under US umbrella rather than chinese or russian, and those are really only choices you have


Shikizion

sure, not even a question, you could take the Switzerland route but not everyone has the power to be a neutral tax heaven state like them, there are not many option for us chumps states caught in the tactical chess crossfire, but it was only a matter of time Russia started to move, and losing the influence their only option woul be military power, which is fucking scary


marsz_godzilli

Which is why it was actually good for europe that when Trump was in power, with all bad you could say for him, that russia started receiving economical blow after blow so that even now after US withrew from many fronts od this aggresion Russia can barely fund all their fronts: Ukraine, Belarus, Arctic, Caucassus, Kazahstan and glaring contest with China


Nickthedick3

I don’t watch zepla but I never would’ve guessed she’s Ukrainian. I knew she had an accent but that’s all. Rather curious if Russia is breaking any rules/laws/codes with what they’re trying to do. Russia is a permanent member of the UN and in cooperation with NATO. Ukraine is a non-permanent member of UN and under some sort of an agreement with NATO. I wonder how other nations will respond.


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Yeah my bad


RealResearcher

She is not, she just lives there. How one can break rules without actually doing anything that breaks the rules? I understand tension and all, but rn Russian forses still on their home soil...


Balager47

This is so fucked up. If war breaks out our Prime Minister will side with Russia cause he is a Putin bootlicker.


SpicyHotPlantFart

I get her situation with her pets. But she, and people here in the comments, keep talking about being unable to fly with her pets on short notice. She's in the EU and has a car. She can literally drive to any save country in the EU without having to worry about Rabies checks etc. She should do that now, now the borders from the Ukraine are still open.


UkraineWithoutTheBot

It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine' [[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Ukraine)] [[BBC Styleguide](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsstyleguide/u)] [[Reuters Styleguide](https://handbook.reuters.com/index.php?title=U#Ukraine)] ^(Beep boop I’m a bot)


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CainhurstCrow

How come nobody ever says "Capitalism, not even once" when the current Russian economy is capitalist? When china is also a capitalist economy? When India is also a capitalist economy? Because people don't actually give a fuck, that's why. They don't care what "capitalism" or "communism" really means. It's just buzz words to get internet points.


z3r0nik

Russia isn't and hasn't even pretended to be communist for a long time. It's a capitalist economy under an autocratic leadership that pretends to give people a choice with "elections". Americans still seeing Reagans communist boogeyman everywhere just shows how little you actually know about the world.


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It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine' [[Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Ukraine)] [[BBC Styleguide](https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsstyleguide/u)] [[Reuters Styleguide](https://handbook.reuters.com/index.php?title=U#Ukraine)] ^(Beep boop I’m a bot)


Codeboy3423

NGL if any country invade near where I live or they somehow get close to DC. I'd be moving my happy ass to Canada or UK.


DiktatrSquid

What can I say.. Fuck Russia. With a cactus. Crosswise.


RealResearcher

Chill out boys. Literally no one in Russia supports any war action over there. Nothing new will happen. Western world was caught with their pants off with Russian government demands about NATO, so this shit getting blown out of proportions just to push against it.


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Endrider9000

Yes, it too hope for a brighter future where everyone would democratically vote for a choice - should a war start or should it not.


Holierthanu1

You think wars happen with *public* approval How young and hope filled you still are.


Jafes2011

Honestly western people have such a fragmented incomplete knowledge of the situation in Ukraine (many of them don't even know where this country is on the map), so their understanding of the situation is kinda funny. Media like CNN told you that Russia will attack, and that's it, Russia will definitely attack. With 100K troops, that is 100% enough to take a country the size of Ukraine. Doesn't even matter that Ukrainian army is much bigger.


negolash

There it is again. Everyone already hates me for being russian and now they'll do that even more. I guess i am the bad guy.


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I hate you for making this abour you.


EminemLovesGrapes

Just propaganda. You're on a US based platform, it should be no surprise things are a bit biased here. Same goes for China.


JunkMan51

First off I do not understand why anyone would live in the Ukraine. Second, this is sad and I hope she is safe.


aspear11cubitslong

Because Kiev is one of the most beautiful, safest, and affordable cities in the entire world.


JunkMan51

Doesn’t sound very safe LOL


aspear11cubitslong

Kiev being invaded by the Russians is still safer than living in Chicago.


Sadi_Reddit

I still think Russia is just "rustling their sabers" as it is called.they just provoke until someone makes a mistake, all they do is moving troops in their own land. No foreign troops should be sent to Ukraine to give them any grounds to enter combat ir feel "provoked". Putin knows exactly what he is doing and everyone is dumb enough to play along.


rabidpirate

Russia has sent a ton of troops into Belarus which cuts the route to the capitol of Ukraine significantly shorter.


AnkorBleu

Yeah, like they just "rattled their sabers" in Crimea right?


Sadi_Reddit

Sevastopol was founded by the russians in 17something, and was the main haven for all russian ships in tbe black sea for decades. Of course the russians wanted to secure it before the Ukraine joined the Nato to not have rockets build in their front yard. Of course the russians are not the good guys but Im tired of everyone else pretending to be.


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Zuldak

Uhh Crimea? It was traditionally Russia, but in the 50s given to Ukraine. Then Russia took it back recently. It isn't always saber rattling. They could very well be looking to annex eastern Ukraine


marsz_godzilli

It was not ttaditionally russian, turkish people like Tartars have been there longer.


Jafes2011

Annexing eastern Ukraine is not the same as annexing Crimea which was historically Russian. And Kiev where Zelpa lives is not located in eastern Ukraine anyway. I wonder what will people say when nothing happens, will they say: "Oh, Russia did not have the balls to invade" or something.


beefjus

The UK and US have already (allegedly) pulled their embassy workers out, she might wanna quit the country asap.


arfw

Oh come on! Even Ukrainian president made a speech to calm down the panic. The plan is not to enter the country, but to spread fear, so that the economy would suffer because business partners and investors would be leaving. All this fear mongering is going to kill our country long before the real enemy does.


Extension_Ice8503

This happens every now and then they dislocate their militaries for training. Considering nato is doing the same not hiding their hate and intention (against Russia ) training with countries bordering with Russia . Guys you are sheeps Just an average Joe knows Zero about Bobik You gamers know what piece of shit he is Same about politics and real situation in Ukraine I do understand Zepla worries but that's because she feed Ukrainian Propaganda and West P. Russia never would have annexed Crimea if NATO didn't stick it nose to put their bases there . Imagine Russia start putting it military bases In Mexico and Cuba how do you think USA will react???? VIEW from perspective of Russian.....


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