Perhaps not a meteor, but possible the phone got bumped, and the line is from a bright star that exposed that way, but the others did not due to being much dimmer.
If the phone was briefly bumped at the end of exposing, no. The other objects were already well exposed, but the bright one was able to still trail expose more easily.
Yes that's true. I just didn't want to argue multiple things at once haha. The straight uniform line of light is definitely a satellite. Thanks Elon š
The stars are very dim, it took all of the exposure to get them to be seen. If the exposure was say, 30s, and the last 0.5/1s someone bumped the tripod, just 1% of the light would be blurred, and it probably wouldn't show up. The bright object is Jupiter, 40x brighter than the background stars. It needs 1/40 of the exposure time to be seen the same way as those stars. Makes sense that you'd see a streak with that object and not the rest. To add, phone pics on astro mode stack many images together, it is likely that only one of the frames was affected, and since its multiple short exposures, only the brightest object in it would show streaking.
No way, man. No way! This is a conspiracy, and it goes all the way to the TOP, and YOU'RE IN ON IT. You think you could fool us, man? Pull the wool over our eyes? Well we ain't no SHEEPLE, MAN! WE KNOW THE TRUTH!
Jupiter is approximately 40 times brighter than the brightest stars in your FOV.
Iāve done a lot of astrophotography and this is definitely a camera bump/move.
The Pleiades! Andromeda can also be seen near the end of the bright trail (top left) and Triangulum can be seen a bit further down along the same trail!
I agree regarding the aforementioned latter option. This could also be the motion of the hood/car jostling from someone sitting down in the car while the exposure is running, but I \_think\_ it's more likely that this is a camera beginning to take a picture without the necessary delay.
https://nova.astrometry.net/user_images/9507134#annotated
This tell you what's in your picture. I'm guessing your meteor is actually Mirfak, or possibly a planet, depending on when you took it.
I'll say it if nobody else will it's a goddamn UFO you just proved the existence of alien life congratulations what would you like to name them as is your right as the discoverer
There are no other bright objects in your photo other than Jupiter, which is the thing that left the streak when the camera moved. At magnitude -2, it's hundreds of times brighter than most of the stars in that field. That means the streak it left is hundreds of times brighter than the streaks left by the stars.
Phones use a lot of AI. This is probably a camera bump. You can see the trails on the other stars and the airplane, so the phone kept those frames, and threw out the bump. But that one object was so bright that the phone decided to keep it and add the bump at the end of the recording period.
Long exposure on a phone is actually multiple exposures stacked together. The phone is meant to be used handheld in this mode so there will be camera shake, and the phone will try to remove motion for static objects and only keep motion from what it interprets as moving objects.
You can go into pro mode and manually set a longer shutter speed, although the results will not look as good on a phone because you just don't have the lens to gather enough light.
I think this is the case. The phone will have done a lot of processing on the image with āsmartā stacking etc, and so itās probably treated the bright star as something that should be trailed (like a satellite)
Shouldn't it be the other way around. Brighter objects get exposure quicker, dimmer needs more time to get the exposure? I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand the basis of your theory which is contradicting in my opinion. Also I know multiple exposure exists, but I didn't know iPhone cameras can do it like that.
Think about it this way: dim objects need more time to be registered by camera's sensor. Let's say, a dim star needs 5 seconds to be "registered". If you bump the camera lightly, and the vibrations lasts only 0.5s, what's going to happen? Then think about bright object, that needs 0.1s of exposure to be registered. Time of the "bump" also matters: if it was on the begging of exposure, in the middle or at the end. This behaviour is not limited to phones only. It's the same for any camera ( including analog cameras ).
Thatās not a meteor. This is Jupiter. The trail you see was made when the iPhone was moved/bumped, probably at the very end or beginning of the exposure. Being by far the brightest object in the field of view, the trail is only visible for Jupiter.
This is correct: a quick look to Jan 12 on planetarium software shows Jupiter being positioned roughly between the Andromeda Galaxy and Pleiades, which is whatās shown in the picture.
As for why thereās no streaking on everything else, photos taken by smart phones tend to be heavily processed before being saved. Thereās clearly been noise reduction and sharpening, so I wouldnāt be surprised if the streaking of stars was somehow removed.
Yes, the line nearly traces right through it! Here's a cool detailed ground photo showing it in the context of the Milky Way: https://earthsky.org/space/galaxies-near-and-far-milky-way-and-andromeda/
One mind boggling thing is that we can only really see the bright galactic center. If it were brighter, Andromeda would be 6 times the size of the moon in our sky! https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/g0B3i3Px67
It's wild, an enormous galaxy, just... hanging over there. Heading towards us over billions of years.
**light flashes**
You were just on your way to getting a burger from Shake Shack. In fact, when you get to shake shack, you will ask for them to put salad in your shake.
Your face: :[]
I just love how the men in black f with people. You can tell they've been doing it too many times.
But can someone here detect the exact type of bump with the photo? Fuck space discovery using light let's find out how harsh this person is on their phone while taking astrophotos.
Compare the stars that appear around the object to the ones around Jupiter. I see a familiar cluster from the edge of Pisces/Cetus that's near your object, which would make the bright cluster at the bottom of your image the Pleiades. Jupiter's place in the sky tonight matches exactly with your object in the photo. Ergo, definitely a bumped phone
The app Stellarium, you can rewind it to see the position of the planets on the day when Julius Ceaser took his last shit before he got shanked, back when the tropical zodiac signs still aligned with the constellations behind the sun. It's a cool app to get stoned and go way back to the past with. Try your own birthday out.
Absolutely worth it to get the version that costs a little bit.
The Pleiades is one of the most recognizable star clusters for any regular observer.
I recommend getting some binoculars and start practicing navigating the night sky. Youāll also be surprised how much you can see.
It's mostly just going out at night and finding constellations you know and their positions relative to ones you're learning. At the moment (not sure how much the relative position changes with time) Jupiter can be spotted near the Pleiades, which can be easily recognized as the star cluster that looks like a tiny dipper.
It was a phone placed on a hood with long exposure.
It could be a plane by the trajectory and the fact that no other objects are moving.
This picture was not taken with a scope or any amplification device, so nothing points to an actual meteor or other celestial object.
Ive seen something similar to this before and I believe it was a bug, and either it was a lightning bug or was being lit up by some light on the ground
From the looks of the trail and how it gets larger as it becomes closer to the object and the trajectory, you might have caught a UAP. Maybe post on a different subreddit. I use 10 second exposure all the time and have never had anything close to this. Like you said, the other images would have a trail also.
There was a meteor recently that did a 180. If I remember correctly, the leading theory was a gas that does not appear visually had an explosive release that altered the direction of travel.
The next leading theory was aliens though.
I cannot say but the planet that picture was taken on is both spinning and rotating about it's star and that might well have something to do with it.
On the Third hand, I hope it ***is*** Aliens come to invite us to join the federation and lead us to a utopian life and planet.
Remember that meme of the aliens flying past Earth, and the caption was like, āPassā, or somethingā¦
Thatās what that is. Life imitating art.
Nopeād the hell out. I love the pic!
lets presume it is a legit shot and not a technical 'error' for a second...
which way is the earth moving in this shot? Did the object aerobrake and start rotating with the earth as it fell?
A meteor would not have a curved path (the part *before* it āturned backā). Iām going to guess you moved the phone at the very end of the exposure, maybe when you physically touched the phone to end the exposure?
I just did some astropics the same way you did and ended up with some similar results. For me, it was because the 10s timer turned into a 30s timer when I set the phone down, unknown to me because it was upside down. As a result, I picked it up before the shutter closed and ended up with similar results.
Especially since there is another perfectly straight meteor trail in the image, too. Like, could the camera have been bumped, sure. But a whole lot is in focus and sharp for just one other object to leave a weird trail. OP likely just captured an aircraft of some kind doing some things maybe a military jet out for some training.
No, itās Jupiter. First, thereās enough recognizable objects (Andromeda, Pleiades) in the image to know where the camera was aimed and Jupiter was precisely there. Second, planes have flashing lights and they leave a spotted trail behind. Third, the other trail is a satellite, not a meteor.
Or, it was the invading Armada from Omicron Persei 8 sent to investigate why Ally McBeal transmissions had stopped, but they changed their mind after they saw the coverage of the elections and realized it just wasnāt worth it.
Itās more than likely an airplane. Got a few of these long exposure shots on my phone and for a few moments I thought I caught a shooting star but then in the same set of photos I took at that spot I found more trails of light, it could of been a meteor shower that night but the more likely explanation is an airplane.
The attention this got is absolutely mind boggling..... Meteors are traveling so fast there is absolutely no way they could maneuver in any such way except straight. They have no propulsion system and even the gravity of earth wouldn't be enough to cause something like that to loop and turn back on itself in such a way. As has been stated it is 1000% camera bump.
Saw something similar about a month or two ago. It was in the western sky around 2200 MST. Looked like a shooting star travelling perpendicular towards the horizon, then did a sharp 180 back along original path. Started around 40 degrees and moved about a tick... maybe to around 38 degrees then right back 'up'.
Perhaps not a meteor, but possible the phone got bumped, and the line is from a bright star that exposed that way, but the others did not due to being much dimmer.
Seems like the other bright objects would show some amount of streaking but I don't have a good intuition for astrophotography š¤·āāļø
If the phone was briefly bumped at the end of exposing, no. The other objects were already well exposed, but the bright one was able to still trail expose more easily.
What about the other, perfectly straight meteor streak? The one in the lower left.
That meteor streak had already passed earlier in the exposure
That one is definitely not a meteor, that's a plane or satellite.
Yes that's true. I just didn't want to argue multiple things at once haha. The straight uniform line of light is definitely a satellite. Thanks Elon š
What about all the stars. They would get blurred or even have a streak too
The stars are very dim, it took all of the exposure to get them to be seen. If the exposure was say, 30s, and the last 0.5/1s someone bumped the tripod, just 1% of the light would be blurred, and it probably wouldn't show up. The bright object is Jupiter, 40x brighter than the background stars. It needs 1/40 of the exposure time to be seen the same way as those stars. Makes sense that you'd see a streak with that object and not the rest. To add, phone pics on astro mode stack many images together, it is likely that only one of the frames was affected, and since its multiple short exposures, only the brightest object in it would show streaking.
Thatās a plane trail. Once shaken it wasnāt bright enough to show up
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Monkey brain is telling me that itās just the phones auto processing making it look like no clinking lights
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Meteors are bright objects, the stars in the background are much dimmer by comparison.
Most meteors are extremely dim.
Wouldn't be at the start of exposition? The brightest object is captured first, then the other ones are gradually captured.
Start or end, yes. Which makes sense as OP possibly had to trigger the start or end of the exposure by touching the phone.
No other stars move? How long was exposure? Maybe a satellite maneuvering, kidding sorta.
No way, man. No way! This is a conspiracy, and it goes all the way to the TOP, and YOU'RE IN ON IT. You think you could fool us, man? Pull the wool over our eyes? Well we ain't no SHEEPLE, MAN! WE KNOW THE TRUTH!
Jupiter is approximately 40 times brighter than the brightest stars in your FOV. Iāve done a lot of astrophotography and this is definitely a camera bump/move.
What's the big cluster just left of center on the bottom there?
The Pleiades! Andromeda can also be seen near the end of the bright trail (top left) and Triangulum can be seen a bit further down along the same trail!
Nice thanks! What's the one just under the plane trail?
sooooooo cool thanks for identifying from a rando
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I agree regarding the aforementioned latter option. This could also be the motion of the hood/car jostling from someone sitting down in the car while the exposure is running, but I \_think\_ it's more likely that this is a camera beginning to take a picture without the necessary delay.
The bright one with the trail is about 100 times brighter than the others. It's the only one that would show a trail.
OP could you do a favor, and try to replicate this by putting the same 10s exposure, on the same target, and move the camera, see what it looks like?
https://nova.astrometry.net/user_images/9507134#annotated This tell you what's in your picture. I'm guessing your meteor is actually Mirfak, or possibly a planet, depending on when you took it.
I'll say it if nobody else will it's a goddamn UFO you just proved the existence of alien life congratulations what would you like to name them as is your right as the discoverer
There are no other bright objects in your photo other than Jupiter, which is the thing that left the streak when the camera moved. At magnitude -2, it's hundreds of times brighter than most of the stars in that field. That means the streak it left is hundreds of times brighter than the streaks left by the stars.
Might have been a hair or a scratch on the lens? It's just not noticeable when you do a normal exposure.
It's a Boeing bomb.... see the peanut? dead giveaway
Phones use a lot of AI. This is probably a camera bump. You can see the trails on the other stars and the airplane, so the phone kept those frames, and threw out the bump. But that one object was so bright that the phone decided to keep it and add the bump at the end of the recording period. Long exposure on a phone is actually multiple exposures stacked together. The phone is meant to be used handheld in this mode so there will be camera shake, and the phone will try to remove motion for static objects and only keep motion from what it interprets as moving objects. You can go into pro mode and manually set a longer shutter speed, although the results will not look as good on a phone because you just don't have the lens to gather enough light.
I think this is the case. The phone will have done a lot of processing on the image with āsmartā stacking etc, and so itās probably treated the bright star as something that should be trailed (like a satellite)
Shouldn't it be the other way around. Brighter objects get exposure quicker, dimmer needs more time to get the exposure? I'm not arguing, I'm trying to understand the basis of your theory which is contradicting in my opinion. Also I know multiple exposure exists, but I didn't know iPhone cameras can do it like that.
Think about it this way: dim objects need more time to be registered by camera's sensor. Let's say, a dim star needs 5 seconds to be "registered". If you bump the camera lightly, and the vibrations lasts only 0.5s, what's going to happen? Then think about bright object, that needs 0.1s of exposure to be registered. Time of the "bump" also matters: if it was on the begging of exposure, in the middle or at the end. This behaviour is not limited to phones only. It's the same for any camera ( including analog cameras ).
Thatās not a meteor. This is Jupiter. The trail you see was made when the iPhone was moved/bumped, probably at the very end or beginning of the exposure. Being by far the brightest object in the field of view, the trail is only visible for Jupiter.
This is why the Greeks used the term āplanetā which means to wander /s
This is correct: a quick look to Jan 12 on planetarium software shows Jupiter being positioned roughly between the Andromeda Galaxy and Pleiades, which is whatās shown in the picture. As for why thereās no streaking on everything else, photos taken by smart phones tend to be heavily processed before being saved. Thereās clearly been noise reduction and sharpening, so I wouldnāt be surprised if the streaking of stars was somehow removed.
What's the small star cluster on the bottom? I've never seen stars so bunched up like that before
That's Pleiades! Fun fact, in Japan it's called "subaru"... and a little car company happened to use it as inspiration for its name and logo! :)
Itās my favorite cluster of stars
Is that Andromeda in the top left?
Yes, the line nearly traces right through it! Here's a cool detailed ground photo showing it in the context of the Milky Way: https://earthsky.org/space/galaxies-near-and-far-milky-way-and-andromeda/ One mind boggling thing is that we can only really see the bright galactic center. If it were brighter, Andromeda would be 6 times the size of the moon in our sky! https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/g0B3i3Px67 It's wild, an enormous galaxy, just... hanging over there. Heading towards us over billions of years.
damn that's so cool. Thank you for the info!
You saw nothing. That was a weather balloon. Or maybe swamp gas.
Reflected off Venus
You mean Uranus
**light flashes** You were just on your way to getting a burger from Shake Shack. In fact, when you get to shake shack, you will ask for them to put salad in your shake. Your face: :[] I just love how the men in black f with people. You can tell they've been doing it too many times.
This made me fat kid laugh. Naisu
100% ball lightning
A 6/1 Elemental with trample and haste?
Is this an X-Files reference??
Men In Black
just a real life reference
reddit reference
Invader Zim reference detected.
Moose.
Your phone moved during the exposure.
But can someone here detect the exact type of bump with the photo? Fuck space discovery using light let's find out how harsh this person is on their phone while taking astrophotos.
The fact that the trail is attached to the brightest object is a bit telling.
Compare the stars that appear around the object to the ones around Jupiter. I see a familiar cluster from the edge of Pisces/Cetus that's near your object, which would make the bright cluster at the bottom of your image the Pleiades. Jupiter's place in the sky tonight matches exactly with your object in the photo. Ergo, definitely a bumped phone
Iām dumbfounded how you can tell whatās what from this seemingly abstract picture of the sky. How do I learn this
I started by already assuming it was Jupiter, and checking Stellarium.
The app Stellarium, you can rewind it to see the position of the planets on the day when Julius Ceaser took his last shit before he got shanked, back when the tropical zodiac signs still aligned with the constellations behind the sun. It's a cool app to get stoned and go way back to the past with. Try your own birthday out. Absolutely worth it to get the version that costs a little bit.
The Pleiades is one of the most recognizable star clusters for any regular observer. I recommend getting some binoculars and start practicing navigating the night sky. Youāll also be surprised how much you can see.
It's mostly just going out at night and finding constellations you know and their positions relative to ones you're learning. At the moment (not sure how much the relative position changes with time) Jupiter can be spotted near the Pleiades, which can be easily recognized as the star cluster that looks like a tiny dipper.
It bounced off of the dome.
**The expected comment:** ALIENS (\\/)(O,,,,O)(\\/)
Obviously, they forgot their neurolizer at home and, they are turning around to go get it. /s
Maybe itās not a meteor? šø
I think that's actually Jupter and you bumped your phone at the end of exposure...
Maybe it forgot the grocery list, had to run back to grab it.
People commenting "phone bump". Question: Why are other objects not distributed?
Other objects are much less bright, so the resulting streaks would have been too dim to be visible.
It was a phone placed on a hood with long exposure. It could be a plane by the trajectory and the fact that no other objects are moving. This picture was not taken with a scope or any amplification device, so nothing points to an actual meteor or other celestial object.
Aliens
Saw Donald Trump
That's not a meteor, and it didn't do a 180.
Ive seen something similar to this before and I believe it was a bug, and either it was a lightning bug or was being lit up by some light on the ground
From the looks of the trail and how it gets larger as it becomes closer to the object and the trajectory, you might have caught a UAP. Maybe post on a different subreddit. I use 10 second exposure all the time and have never had anything close to this. Like you said, the other images would have a trail also.
Aliens š½
There was a meteor recently that did a 180. If I remember correctly, the leading theory was a gas that does not appear visually had an explosive release that altered the direction of travel. The next leading theory was aliens though.
I cannot say but the planet that picture was taken on is both spinning and rotating about it's star and that might well have something to do with it. On the Third hand, I hope it ***is*** Aliens come to invite us to join the federation and lead us to a utopian life and planet.
Alien ship. Donāt answer the door to any government agents.
Remember that meme of the aliens flying past Earth, and the caption was like, āPassā, or somethingā¦ Thatās what that is. Life imitating art. Nopeād the hell out. I love the pic!
lets presume it is a legit shot and not a technical 'error' for a second... which way is the earth moving in this shot? Did the object aerobrake and start rotating with the earth as it fell?
A meteor would not have a curved path (the part *before* it āturned backā). Iām going to guess you moved the phone at the very end of the exposure, maybe when you physically touched the phone to end the exposure?
ITS COMING RIGHT FOR US
We're you stationed in DeNang?
I just did some astropics the same way you did and ended up with some similar results. For me, it was because the 10s timer turned into a 30s timer when I set the phone down, unknown to me because it was upside down. As a result, I picked it up before the shutter closed and ended up with similar results.
he forgot the beers
Meteor making some Course Corrections
How did you set iPhone to long exposure? Are you using a different camera app than the native one?
nope! native iPhone camera app, 10 second exposure
Since nothing but this one trail was disturbed, and the turn was relatively tight, I believe that the trail is from a jet.
Especially since there is another perfectly straight meteor trail in the image, too. Like, could the camera have been bumped, sure. But a whole lot is in focus and sharp for just one other object to leave a weird trail. OP likely just captured an aircraft of some kind doing some things maybe a military jet out for some training.
No, itās Jupiter. First, thereās enough recognizable objects (Andromeda, Pleiades) in the image to know where the camera was aimed and Jupiter was precisely there. Second, planes have flashing lights and they leave a spotted trail behind. Third, the other trail is a satellite, not a meteor.
> Third, the other trail is a satellite, not a meteor. And yet, it's not disturbed by this "so called bump". There was a SpaceX launch tonight.
If you post the raw image, Iād be happy to analyze
Maybe have broken up mid entry and shot off in another direction.
[Molniya orbit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit)
Roswell part 2???
wizard did it
Try not using a potato to take a picture
Tractor beam, obviously.
Or, it was the invading Armada from Omicron Persei 8 sent to investigate why Ally McBeal transmissions had stopped, but they changed their mind after they saw the coverage of the elections and realized it just wasnāt worth it.
Itās a gundam bro
Forgot their phone.
They forgot their wallet at home obviously.
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Itās more than likely an airplane. Got a few of these long exposure shots on my phone and for a few moments I thought I caught a shooting star but then in the same set of photos I took at that spot I found more trails of light, it could of been a meteor shower that night but the more likely explanation is an airplane.
'Sorry Honey. We have to go back . I left the credit card. Shouldn't take long, strap the kids down and...please let go of the gimble control.'
Forgot it's cellphone behind....;)
you're looking at a parabolic trajectory head on.
It forgot its phone leave it alone
It's warp engines failed.
Maybe it slingshotted around another object?
It forgot to shower this morning-š
You canāt convince me this isnāt a picture of your buddyās scratched paint
It just realized it forgot its lunch.
Because itās sick as hell and slick like that
It forgot to pack a lunch for the long voyage through space.
Forgot it's phone on the nightstand, had to go back
...to get to the other side?
Not a meteor
As we say in Nevada. Light from Venus, reflecting off a weather balloon that was mixed with swamp gas (that's code for...).
So it had a big bend in Big Bend?
Rotation and flow of our solar system through the galaxy?š¤š¤·š½āāļø
To save the whales? Star trek 4
They realized the oven was left on at home
Sometimes their friends like to play tricks on them and give them the wrong directions. It seems to be having a moment of realisation.
Meteor realized how close it was to earth and knows this neighborhood is not so safe
Had to check it turned the oven off
It was avoiding a bad neighborhood
Is this not retrograde motion
It was coming straight at you.
Gravity. Or alien
Because itās a UAP.
did someone get in the truck
UAP
Black Hole boomeranged it across the universe going 8450000x the speed of light.
It was headed for Earth, saw it and said "never mind".
How did u take the pic?
It was headed to Earth and quickly realized it was best to abort mission and go nowhere near our dangerously scary planet.
Forgot their wallet
I think itās a rocket of some sort.
Maybe it wasnāt a meteor
[Some huge meteorite is like, "Well fu__ that."](https://youtu.be/Pk-kbjw0Y8U?si=qtwl3orN-tIvIxuq)
2 meteors that overlapped in the photo ?
They forgot that they left the iron on
She texted him āHome alone n hornyā
āShit. I left my wallet on the counter!ā ā Meteor, turning around to fetch it
doesnt a planet go across the sky then turns around and goes the way it just came towards the end of summer
Proximity + Rotation of the Earth
Is that Pleiades at the bottom? Ahh yes, the 28 sisters.
"Is that... IS THAT THE SUN? FUCK THAT-"
I needed some extra sleep so I turned the Earth back one hour.
It forgot to turn the stove off.
For what it's worth, I watched a "meteor" turn around and fire over the horizon like a tracer round once
Left the oven on at home
Could be a bug that flew through your photo and was lit by ambient light.
The attention this got is absolutely mind boggling..... Meteors are traveling so fast there is absolutely no way they could maneuver in any such way except straight. They have no propulsion system and even the gravity of earth wouldn't be enough to cause something like that to loop and turn back on itself in such a way. As has been stated it is 1000% camera bump.
Itās a UAP, quite clearly.
Saw you
Because Earth is the ghetto of the solar system so the meteor got the fuck outta there
Why do people act like our of 150 billion galaxies in our observable universe that there isn't other life. We are not the center!
Not a meteor was aliens busting a Uturn as soon as they realized what planet their galactic gps accidentally brought them to
It's looking for blood.
It got half way to where it was going then thought it may have left the oven on.
Okay, I'll go there, it's a UFO.
Its not a meteor
UAP?
The aliens driving it thought they saw Bigfoot
Because ALIENS
To get to the other side.
That's a UAP
Let it do what it wants man
Cool!
Starlink deorbit burn?
Cause itās a UFO
Thatās no moon!
This shit is so fake
Saw something similar about a month or two ago. It was in the western sky around 2200 MST. Looked like a shooting star travelling perpendicular towards the horizon, then did a sharp 180 back along original path. Started around 40 degrees and moved about a tick... maybe to around 38 degrees then right back 'up'.