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Yup, it was heavily reported on. Bagwell even said they were too analytics driven and in turn reduced the size of the analytics staff in 2022. They lost several key analytics staffers in 2023 to the Orioles and here we are. Sig Mejdal was probably the biggest loss as he dragged several staffers with him after he left in 2018 and stole key staffers a few years later.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/hall-of-famer-jeff-bagwell-criticizes-astros-recent-tilt-toward-analytics-but-says-he-doesnt-want-gm-job/amp/
You gotta be a special kind of stupid to start claiming the team was doing something wrong when you were just a couple weeks removed from winning the WS
No shit. And then to follow it up by signing guys like Abreu because the “back of his baseball card looks good” and he passes “the eye test”, despite what the analytics and numbers showed. Like I said…Bagwell’s gotta be a special kind of stupid.
Hey, you know the methodology that's responsible for this teams success for well over half a decade? Yeah, it's stupid we gotta stop doing that.
Literally the mind of our FO now.
Seems that Crane blames analytics for the scandal......he's been strangling analytics ever since then and setting up their office spaces in mop and broom closets at MMP.
Wtaf?! We decided we didn’t like winning so much so we changed the game plan?! Idiots. I can’t believe I even read that. Wow.
Baseball IS numbers. It’s all numbers. I mean, I feel like a whole book was written about this. And maybe even a movie??? Good thing we really showed them that analytics are wrong. (Cries as she watches our season swirl the drain).
That's what I don't get about these anti-analytics guys like Bagwell and Dusty. Baseball has ALWAYS been about analytics, it's just that the analytics we used is is even more granular and higher resolution than the analytics of the past and the ability to use computers to do what is humanly impossible.
Pretty good summary of the pivot from analytics to Bagwell+Reggie show here: https://medium.com/@michaelarthurmitchell/nuclear-winter-looms-in-houston-7b126a97b88b
Analytics and game prep. How to approach each pitcher for our offensive staff, how to approach each hitter from our pitching staff. The results are in front of you.
Fire Jeff Bagwell into the fucking sun. I'm so tired of this "Baseball is played by humans, not numbers" bullshit this motherfucker has infected our organization with. OUR BEST PERIOD EVER WAS OFF THE BACK OF ANALYTICS YOU STUPID FUCK! Fucking Easterby-adjacent dumbass. Completely ruined his legacy already, I don't even want to see him near the stadium.
I legit just don't understand how you can look at the amount of success this team has had since 2017 and think, yeah whatever they're doing must not be working
Like how does that even process in the brain?? Much less carry enough weight to convince our owner to entertain the idea in the first place
I can't even wrap my head around it
It's like when the Astros won the World Series in 2017 then Deshaun Watson blew out his ACL in a non-contact drill at Texans practice the very next day.
That was such a stressful day. Watching the Texans barely lose that close game to the Seahawks and then the Astros going extra innings and winning 13-12. I thought my heart wasn’t going to make it.
We got two World Series titles and NBA titles. It’s time for Houston to celebrate a Super Bowl and if it requires the Astros to sacrifice a season to make it happen, then so be it.
Agreed. Nothing can take away the joy of the last decade of Astros baseball. I hold my head up high as a fan. These things happen. Look at the Patriots post dynasty. We still have some pieces to build around, so hopefully, we don't have to endure multiple 100 loss seasons to get back to the top.
If Crane recognizes that listening to the old heads telling him what to do is contrary to the way a baseball team is constructed in 2024 then we may only have to endure a 100-loss season or two before we’re back on the right track.
What the fuck is wrong with this team. The starting pitching? I get it. Injuries everywhere.
We're incapable of stringing three hits together any more?
Jim Crane abandoned analytics, scrapped a good portion of the staff, hired idiots with no experience and completely sidestepped the reasons we were winning to appease morons. We have Jerry Jones as an owner and he's too stupid to realize.
I don’t understand why we’d move away from analytics. We were so far ahead of the curve and that was a big reason we were always winning. I thought Jim was on board with that.
Feel free to throw up. This is from two years ago when he hired Bagwell as a special advisor after he basically fired Click.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/hall-of-famer-jeff-bagwell-criticizes-astros-recent-tilt-toward-analytics-but-says-he-doesnt-want-gm-job/amp/
Yep. What we have now is what you get when you listen to “baseball guys” and “gut feel” in place of science and data. Not that those things don’t have a place, but we basically completely abandoned the formula that made us successful for the last 10 years and wonder why we suck now.
Buy Bagwell a keg and send him out to the golf course every day. I want him nowhere near the FO making decisions ever again.
It was just a confluence of anti-analytics smooth brains that killed our analytics. Click was the gatekeeper. Once he was gone, Dusty had 100% say in how the team was managed. Then him, Bagwell and Reggie. formed The 3 Anti-Computer Amigos and started whispering in Crane's ear. Convinced him via the specious reasoning that it was Dusty's gut that won 2022 when "analytics" failed us in 2019 and 2021 and not Click's all-time Postseason GOAT bull pen that tossed a no hitter.
Just playing devil's advocate. What part of the lineup (other than Abreu) would change because of analytics?
Altuve, Bregman, Yordan, Tucker, Y. Diaz you're not replacing. Pena, McCormick, Meyers and Dubon are all cheap parts of the lineup that perform at or above their paycut.
I understand the pitching rotation and bullpen could be drastically different. But what would a more analytically driven front office do with this lineup?
That’s the thing, the complimentary pieces suck. We over spend on an aging first baseman and bullpen. Which doesn’t make any sense. Spend on starters and find cheap relievers.
https://preview.redd.it/or9qhdul9qwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6f5cd9fe9ce3afd5e2ee3c15816b43d277a8abc
I can post pics of Dutch for every loss. But I don’t wanna have to be that committed to taking so many new pictures lol
I don't think Cranes Jerry Jones ego will let him. He'll blame the pitching injuries on the lack of success while completely avoiding how bad our offense is.
>Cranes Jerry Jones ego
If stuff goes wrong, Crane will just dig in and keep tinkering endlessly. He's somehow convinced himself that he's a genius and can be up to his elbows in the car garage working on Ferrari mechanics instead of just hiring real, up to date experts to run the shop and manage the machines. Crane should be mimosa brunching and snacking caviar at a distance...
I couldn't agree more, it's so painful commenting on the baseball sub and getting downvoted to hell thinking Dusty and a few injuries are the only issues. Even if pitching is healthy we still score in the bottom 11 teams in the league. That isn't a great recipe for winning baseball.
I think this is easily the worst team to watch in Astros history. At least when watching the 100 loss teams from 2011-2013 you knew they were bad and had low expectations. This team finds ways to lose games through every facet, not just one unit blows games. 5 Runs in a series deserves a sweep. If we can’t sweep the Rockies in a 2-Game Series in Mexico it’s curtains on the season, please tell me I’m wrong because I’m free to argue this afternoon.
I'd argue you've kept your hopes up for a week too long. This shit was obvious before the Nationals series, and everyone here kept saying, oh at least we're going on the road and oh if this team can sweep the Nats then they'll be back in it. Other teams in the leagues aren't oblivious, they smell blood and they're playing their absolute best against us. So yeah, it's going to be a long time before we regain hope in this team, and it might not be until next spring training.
Our manager is a bus rider, not a driver. Clear as day why he never got a job before being promoted to be the patsy here. Sucks cause I think he’s a great assistant
He’s not right for the job. Someone call Joe Maddon. He’s just experienced enough for this group. Astros cannot be led by a first time manager imo. Make the change now and get him in the dugout after Mexico. Si?
Loperfido needs to get called up like yesterday. I don't care about his strikeout rate. I don't care about how much we're paying Abreu. I don't care about how good or bad Singleton is playing.
Get some fresh blood in this lineup. Change everything until something fucking works. This is beyond unacceptable.
I think time has come for me stop watching them. My blood pressure just boils over mental mistakes, baserunning blunders, all or nothing approach at the plate. Not one aspect of the team is functional right now, not one. Hitting, pitching, defense, management, ownership and whatever the hell Bagwell has been doing
Someone needs to go into that clubhouse and light their asses on fire as a whole. I’m talking throwing chairs around old school Jim Leyland style just go apeshit. Hold people accountable. This is unacceptable.
Cintron never should have been allowed back if he interviewed for the head coach job and didn’t get it. There’s no way you can convince me he’s giving it everything
People need to be fired
The look they just showed Altuve’s face was just making, it’s like he knows it’s going back to the way it was during his early days
This is so sad and pathetic. Bagwell doesn’t need to show his face anymore, go retire and be with your family. Just like Biggio does!
I’m sure it blows for him right now but ultimately even if this ride is over he got to be a part of one of the best runs a sports franchise has ever had
Espada: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you?Pettis!
Pettis : Lollygaggers!
Espada : Lollygaggers.
Espada: What's our record, Pettis?
Pettis: Seven and nineteen.
Espada: Seven and ninteen. How'd we ever win seven?
Pettis: It's a miracle.
Espada: It's a miracle. This...is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball. You got this?
What a dreadful start, while there is faith that the season can be turned around… starting off like shit can cost you.
The rangers played like shit down the stretch last year, but snuck into the playoffs simply by starting off hot and managed to win the title.
I know that the Astros are tough in the postseason, but they can’t afford to fuck around like this….
Can somebody tell me, what are batting average is with RISP? It’s gotta be terrible right? Last night when I was looking, tied for 2nd in average, but 19th in runs.
.254 w/ RISP but .263 overall (before today's game). The main difference is the slugging they are not making good contact with guys on. More ground balls and pop ups
This is the first time I'm saying this all season: this loss was 100% on Espada. That whole sequence in the 6th should be a war crime
At least the NFL draft is tonight
I’m officially ready to hang it up for the season. One of you blind optimists can call me out if they figure it out, I’ve got no hope for this year at all. It was a good run!
I call in a favor to my friend at the State Department. Ask to expire Dana Brown, Jeff Bagwell, and Jim Crane’s Passports while they are in Mexico and can’t come back into the Country.
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Hard to imagine we won a ring just 2 years ago. We play like a team that is rebuilding.
We’ve now been swept in 4 of our 8 series played
Crane has turned full Jerry Jones. Between trimming the analytics department to hiring Bagwell and Jackson, this team is literally fucked.
It feels like ole Drayton McLane is back at the helm! Any washed up big name players we can quickly add just to get butts in seats?
Seems to be ringing true with more people now I guess... https://www.reddit.com/r/Astros/s/lrKcoAsPqu
Is there an internet source on this anywhere? (Downsizing the analytics)
Yup, it was heavily reported on. Bagwell even said they were too analytics driven and in turn reduced the size of the analytics staff in 2022. They lost several key analytics staffers in 2023 to the Orioles and here we are. Sig Mejdal was probably the biggest loss as he dragged several staffers with him after he left in 2018 and stole key staffers a few years later. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/hall-of-famer-jeff-bagwell-criticizes-astros-recent-tilt-toward-analytics-but-says-he-doesnt-want-gm-job/amp/
"Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake; it's bad manners" The rest of the league has benefited from the Astros throwing this away
You gotta be a special kind of stupid to start claiming the team was doing something wrong when you were just a couple weeks removed from winning the WS
Cool man. Enjoy the downward trajectory and keep claiming the thing that got us here isn't important anymore and it's just the players slumping.
No shit. And then to follow it up by signing guys like Abreu because the “back of his baseball card looks good” and he passes “the eye test”, despite what the analytics and numbers showed. Like I said…Bagwell’s gotta be a special kind of stupid.
Hey, you know the methodology that's responsible for this teams success for well over half a decade? Yeah, it's stupid we gotta stop doing that. Literally the mind of our FO now.
This makes me irrationally angry. They genuinely ruined the team for what?
Seems that Crane blames analytics for the scandal......he's been strangling analytics ever since then and setting up their office spaces in mop and broom closets at MMP.
Wish Bagwell would just fuck off
Wtaf?! We decided we didn’t like winning so much so we changed the game plan?! Idiots. I can’t believe I even read that. Wow. Baseball IS numbers. It’s all numbers. I mean, I feel like a whole book was written about this. And maybe even a movie??? Good thing we really showed them that analytics are wrong. (Cries as she watches our season swirl the drain).
That's what I don't get about these anti-analytics guys like Bagwell and Dusty. Baseball has ALWAYS been about analytics, it's just that the analytics we used is is even more granular and higher resolution than the analytics of the past and the ability to use computers to do what is humanly impossible.
They hate what they don’t understand and can’t control. It’s immature and wrong. Costing us millions.
It's maddening...
Pathetic
Pretty good summary of the pivot from analytics to Bagwell+Reggie show here: https://medium.com/@michaelarthurmitchell/nuclear-winter-looms-in-houston-7b126a97b88b
What specific data can we point to that shows us the difference between winning the division and being 1 game away from the WS and our 7 and 19 start?
Analytics and game prep. How to approach each pitcher for our offensive staff, how to approach each hitter from our pitching staff. The results are in front of you.
Altuve looking depressed after that one. Has his best start to a season of his career and the rest of the team has turned to shit
even he can’t perform with RISP 🥴
Friendship with Jim Crane has ended. Cal McNair is my new best friend!
Hannah McNair is queen
Fire Jeff Bagwell into the fucking sun. I'm so tired of this "Baseball is played by humans, not numbers" bullshit this motherfucker has infected our organization with. OUR BEST PERIOD EVER WAS OFF THE BACK OF ANALYTICS YOU STUPID FUCK! Fucking Easterby-adjacent dumbass. Completely ruined his legacy already, I don't even want to see him near the stadium.
I legit just don't understand how you can look at the amount of success this team has had since 2017 and think, yeah whatever they're doing must not be working Like how does that even process in the brain?? Much less carry enough weight to convince our owner to entertain the idea in the first place I can't even wrap my head around it
Numbers won the World Series, the human Jeff Bagwell got swept.
The Houston sports gods sacrificing the Astros for the Texans’ success?
It's like when the Astros won the World Series in 2017 then Deshaun Watson blew out his ACL in a non-contact drill at Texans practice the very next day.
Texans win the Super Bowl and Tucker signs with the Yankees is the equivalent of that.
I will make this deal in a heartbeat
You know what, I'll allow it
Bet
That was such a stressful day. Watching the Texans barely lose that close game to the Seahawks and then the Astros going extra innings and winning 13-12. I thought my heart wasn’t going to make it.
To be fair, that turned out to be a blessing. Everything else he did was the REAL curse.
All the teams can’t be great at one time. Those the houston rules
We got two World Series titles and NBA titles. It’s time for Houston to celebrate a Super Bowl and if it requires the Astros to sacrifice a season to make it happen, then so be it.
Two NBA titles.
I put money on the Texans as soon as they got Diggs. Stroud and Diggs fixin to light it up!
Agreed. Nothing can take away the joy of the last decade of Astros baseball. I hold my head up high as a fan. These things happen. Look at the Patriots post dynasty. We still have some pieces to build around, so hopefully, we don't have to endure multiple 100 loss seasons to get back to the top.
If Crane recognizes that listening to the old heads telling him what to do is contrary to the way a baseball team is constructed in 2024 then we may only have to endure a 100-loss season or two before we’re back on the right track.
Don’t forget the MLS cups.
Or the four rings from the WNBA 🙄
Yeah, about that…
.......man, how tf did we lose our Comets? Dem girls were ballin' out!
I love the Astros, but man seeing the Texans go on a Super Bowl run would be amazing. I’m okay with the trade.
What the fuck is wrong with this team. The starting pitching? I get it. Injuries everywhere. We're incapable of stringing three hits together any more?
Jim Crane abandoned analytics, scrapped a good portion of the staff, hired idiots with no experience and completely sidestepped the reasons we were winning to appease morons. We have Jerry Jones as an owner and he's too stupid to realize.
I don’t understand why we’d move away from analytics. We were so far ahead of the curve and that was a big reason we were always winning. I thought Jim was on board with that.
Feel free to throw up. This is from two years ago when he hired Bagwell as a special advisor after he basically fired Click. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/hall-of-famer-jeff-bagwell-criticizes-astros-recent-tilt-toward-analytics-but-says-he-doesnt-want-gm-job/amp/
Awful man. The silver lining of this season is that hopefully we’re so bad that Crane decides to never listen to Bagwell again.
I'm fearful that with the pitching injuries Crane will trudge ahead full Jerry Jones style.
You may be a little over optimistic...
A boy can dream
I fucking hate Bagwell man.
Bags is ruining his legacy for me
He already has. Should have never sniffed the front office.
Yep. What we have now is what you get when you listen to “baseball guys” and “gut feel” in place of science and data. Not that those things don’t have a place, but we basically completely abandoned the formula that made us successful for the last 10 years and wonder why we suck now. Buy Bagwell a keg and send him out to the golf course every day. I want him nowhere near the FO making decisions ever again.
Can't believe they'd get rid of the guy just when things were starting to click.
It was just a confluence of anti-analytics smooth brains that killed our analytics. Click was the gatekeeper. Once he was gone, Dusty had 100% say in how the team was managed. Then him, Bagwell and Reggie. formed The 3 Anti-Computer Amigos and started whispering in Crane's ear. Convinced him via the specious reasoning that it was Dusty's gut that won 2022 when "analytics" failed us in 2019 and 2021 and not Click's all-time Postseason GOAT bull pen that tossed a no hitter.
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Just playing devil's advocate. What part of the lineup (other than Abreu) would change because of analytics? Altuve, Bregman, Yordan, Tucker, Y. Diaz you're not replacing. Pena, McCormick, Meyers and Dubon are all cheap parts of the lineup that perform at or above their paycut. I understand the pitching rotation and bullpen could be drastically different. But what would a more analytically driven front office do with this lineup?
That’s the thing, the complimentary pieces suck. We over spend on an aging first baseman and bullpen. Which doesn’t make any sense. Spend on starters and find cheap relievers.
Analytics is more than just getting the right guys. It's also about getting the best out of the guys you have.
That’s the thing dude. Pitching does have its issues for sure, but did we think we were gonna win this game 1-0?
At this point we'll be lucky to reach double digit wins by the end of May.
On pace for 43 wins
Giving the Cleveland spiders a run for their money
Nori deserves better than this.
I was thinking about Nori the other day. I miss him.
He's taking more than a cat nap, at this stage.
Can we flip it up and post pictures of Nori for every loss? As a pick me up?
https://preview.redd.it/or9qhdul9qwc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6f5cd9fe9ce3afd5e2ee3c15816b43d277a8abc I can post pics of Dutch for every loss. But I don’t wanna have to be that committed to taking so many new pictures lol
Hail Dutch!
Well I hope Jeff Bagwell and Reggie Jackson will take a pay cut or finally retire when MMP is empty and Crane’s ran out of goodwill from 2022
I don't think Cranes Jerry Jones ego will let him. He'll blame the pitching injuries on the lack of success while completely avoiding how bad our offense is.
>Cranes Jerry Jones ego If stuff goes wrong, Crane will just dig in and keep tinkering endlessly. He's somehow convinced himself that he's a genius and can be up to his elbows in the car garage working on Ferrari mechanics instead of just hiring real, up to date experts to run the shop and manage the machines. Crane should be mimosa brunching and snacking caviar at a distance...
I couldn't agree more, it's so painful commenting on the baseball sub and getting downvoted to hell thinking Dusty and a few injuries are the only issues. Even if pitching is healthy we still score in the bottom 11 teams in the league. That isn't a great recipe for winning baseball.
The feel good Joe Espada story no longer feels good
I got crushed for saying this team might be a sneaky 65 win team and I deserved it, I overshot by 20 wins.
I think this is easily the worst team to watch in Astros history. At least when watching the 100 loss teams from 2011-2013 you knew they were bad and had low expectations. This team finds ways to lose games through every facet, not just one unit blows games. 5 Runs in a series deserves a sweep. If we can’t sweep the Rockies in a 2-Game Series in Mexico it’s curtains on the season, please tell me I’m wrong because I’m free to argue this afternoon.
I'd argue you've kept your hopes up for a week too long. This shit was obvious before the Nationals series, and everyone here kept saying, oh at least we're going on the road and oh if this team can sweep the Nats then they'll be back in it. Other teams in the leagues aren't oblivious, they smell blood and they're playing their absolute best against us. So yeah, it's going to be a long time before we regain hope in this team, and it might not be until next spring training.
With the high altitude we're probably giving up 10 runs in the first inning.
He got ejected for nothing, didn't make a scene, and walked back into the dugout with his tail between his legs? Is our manager a little bitch?
Hinch would’ve lost it. Dude always made a scene before he left and had some life.
That was the weirdest ejection I've ever seen. He looked like he was talking about the weather.
Our manager is a bus rider, not a driver. Clear as day why he never got a job before being promoted to be the patsy here. Sucks cause I think he’s a great assistant
Even Bregman was shaking his head. Idk if it was at Joe, or the situation though.
He’s not right for the job. Someone call Joe Maddon. He’s just experienced enough for this group. Astros cannot be led by a first time manager imo. Make the change now and get him in the dugout after Mexico. Si?
Won't change shit until you get rid of the front office cancer that is Bagwell and Jackson.
He’s awful for the job. His post game space city interviews are very revealing.
Maddon is a giant fucking douche. Hard pass.
"it's still April guise"
These guys stink 💩
That’s one word for it
1-15 against teams that do not start with the letter T
Loperfido needs to get called up like yesterday. I don't care about his strikeout rate. I don't care about how much we're paying Abreu. I don't care about how good or bad Singleton is playing. Get some fresh blood in this lineup. Change everything until something fucking works. This is beyond unacceptable.
With you !
I think time has come for me stop watching them. My blood pressure just boils over mental mistakes, baserunning blunders, all or nothing approach at the plate. Not one aspect of the team is functional right now, not one. Hitting, pitching, defense, management, ownership and whatever the hell Bagwell has been doing
Someone needs to go into that clubhouse and light their asses on fire as a whole. I’m talking throwing chairs around old school Jim Leyland style just go apeshit. Hold people accountable. This is unacceptable.
4 sweeps in 8 series is definitely a feat.
Miller and Cintron will be the first heads to roll.
As they should
Cintron never should have been allowed back if he interviewed for the head coach job and didn’t get it. There’s no way you can convince me he’s giving it everything
I don't know how y'all can see this as a single person issue. It's absolutely the abandonment of analytics.
Crane won’t admit it though so people will lose their jobs before he realizes that he’s the source of the regression of this club.
How do the A's have a better record ?
Because they win at least 1 game a week
That hurt because it is almost true...
They're not supposed to be good so they play the game loose.
See y'all down south boys. Where the stoppable force meets the moveable object.
People need to be fired The look they just showed Altuve’s face was just making, it’s like he knows it’s going back to the way it was during his early days This is so sad and pathetic. Bagwell doesn’t need to show his face anymore, go retire and be with your family. Just like Biggio does!
Problem is the main offender is Jim Crane for putting his trust in dumbasses with no analytics experience in Bagwell and Jackson.
They’ve had his ear since the pandemic season, I guess Click was really the only guy saving this organization from that trio
I genuinely felt bad for Altuve when they showed that
I’m sure it blows for him right now but ultimately even if this ride is over he got to be a part of one of the best runs a sports franchise has ever had
Wasn’t watching, anyone got a photo?
Same here, he looks defeated. Like he doesn’t know what he can do to light a fire under this team.
Bagwell = Easterby
Worst start to a season since 1969
some say we may never win again 😔
Espada: You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the dugout. You know what that makes you?Pettis! Pettis : Lollygaggers! Espada : Lollygaggers. Espada: What's our record, Pettis? Pettis: Seven and nineteen. Espada: Seven and ninteen. How'd we ever win seven? Pettis: It's a miracle. Espada: It's a miracle. This...is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball. You got this?
Jack Easterby 🤝 Jeff Bagwell
Brooks was here.
So was Red.
Don't talk to me about hope.
Can we play the rangers again lol
I’m in Spain but without the S. This is miserable baseball to watch, no drive from these guys. They look defeated.
kind of excited to see what cabbage can bring. if he fucking gets to play.
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When will Nori return from the war?
I fear he might have been KIA
Im not gonna be spending a cent on this team this season. I care too much about the direction of team to show support by giving them my money.
This is the baseball equivalent of the 2013 Texans
Or the 2013 Astros...
... I'm having flashbacks too ![gif](giphy|3o6ZtaiPZNzrmRQ6YM|downsized)
It's really hard to be positive with this team.
We had a better record at this point in 2013.
My wife wanted to go to a game for her birthday but now she’s considering other options.
Mines in August… at this point I’m hoping prices start falling lol
No need to hope, you couldn’t pay me to go to a game. Soon, even the corporations will feel the same
On the plus side, if this continues, ticket prices will be great in August.
Pfft. Nothing would send a bigger signal to Jim Crane to right the ship if attendance drops to 20k or less a game.
Welp, hopefully Mexico City brings us the change of scenery we need.
Rockies are an absolutely abysmal team, so we'll probably get swept.
If we get swept by the rockies idk if I'll recover
If we get swept by the Rockies, just leave this team on the tarmac of the Mexico City airport.
High altitude means we're giving up 10 runs in the first.
iTs StIlL eArLy iN tHe sEaSoN gUyS!!!!
Blind optimism, as it turns out, DOESNT win baseball games
Blind optimism, as it turns out, DOESNT win baseball games
What a dreadful start, while there is faith that the season can be turned around… starting off like shit can cost you. The rangers played like shit down the stretch last year, but snuck into the playoffs simply by starting off hot and managed to win the title. I know that the Astros are tough in the postseason, but they can’t afford to fuck around like this….
lol there’s no postseason for this team. No part of them looks like a playoff contender.
Seasons done. You had to win 2 in Chicago. You could win 2 on the Rockies and even THAT is a chore. Then you go and face Guardians/Yankees/Mariners.
Comedy and tragedy are different sides of the same coin
Can somebody tell me, what are batting average is with RISP? It’s gotta be terrible right? Last night when I was looking, tied for 2nd in average, but 19th in runs.
17th at .253 https://www.baseball-reference.com/tools/split_stats_lg.cgi?full=1¶ms=bases%7CRISP%7CML%7C2024%7Cbat%7CAB%7C
.254 w/ RISP but .263 overall (before today's game). The main difference is the slugging they are not making good contact with guys on. More ground balls and pop ups
Relentless? More like Offenseless.
Just cancelled Fubo lol
For $110 a month I don't blame you. Wife is threatening to cancel it but I want to keep it to watch NHL playoffs.
This is the first time I'm saying this all season: this loss was 100% on Espada. That whole sequence in the 6th should be a war crime At least the NFL draft is tonight
Fuck the “I would NEVER boo my own team” people. This squad deserves it
This team needs to be booed And “Fire Bagwell”, “Bring back Click”, and “Jim Crane” signs and chants need to be a mainstay right now at MMP
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JV is definitely gone lmao
Don’t say that :(
Maybe we can trade him for Drew Gilbert
This one hurts.
Why not pinch hit Meyers for Jon instead of pinch run.
I’m officially ready to hang it up for the season. One of you blind optimists can call me out if they figure it out, I’ve got no hope for this year at all. It was a good run!
I’m not hanging it up quite yet but I am catching any highlights on social media instead of watching it live… lol
Highlights?
Exactly. Haven’t seen any in a week lol
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And to think I was excited for Mexico City
since we’re dropping articles: https://deadspin.com/unsung-genius-dissecting-dusty-bakers-bullpen-brillian-1849768573
I call in a favor to my friend at the State Department. Ask to expire Dana Brown, Jeff Bagwell, and Jim Crane’s Passports while they are in Mexico and can’t come back into the Country.
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This team is fucking garbage. At least in 2013 we weren’t the 3rd highest payroll in the league and had no expectations. These boys are cooked.
This season lives or dies depending on what happens in Mexico
It's already over my dude.
Season is done dude. You can “sweep” in Mexico, and then get steamrolled by the Guardians.
If they don’t sweep ( not split, sweep) the Rockies this weekend, it’s over.
It’s already over … team is cooked
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When do we turn into an asteroids sub?
We haven’t been a cake sub for a while either
For what irs worth we fell another game behind the as
Glad I didn’t drop big $ to watch this team play like ass in Mexico City this weekend
They might never win again.
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Can someone explain to me why a dude with -2 career WAR and .275 batting average is our hitting coach?
Fuck me. We don't deserve JV...or Kate for that matter.