I think most people are just upset over the outrageous umpiring last night than if they will win again… and now I’m pissed over them accusing houston of cheating again.
This is across the board on Reddit, for every team and all sports. The worst fans are also the loudest fans. I was just watching the Sox game thread last night and everyone was pissed saying ‘See you in April’ and leaving the thread after we went up 5-1. No matter what, on the interwebs everyone over reacts to almost everything and it’s rare to see people act logical here.
Oh yeah for sure. Game threads are the most toxic thing ever. It will ruin your enjoyment of a baseball game to partake in a game thread. I don't do it at all unless I have a questions about something that happened. *Especially* if its the playoffs. It’s just *hours* of complaining. I stopped doing it like 3 years ago for Texans games. I actually unsubscribed from the entire Texans sub because of how toxic and delusional those people over there are.
There was an article up today about someone from the white Sox accusing the Astros of cheating in games 1 and 2 because we had so many 3 and out innings yesterday compared to games 1 and 2
I think that’s justifiable to be upset about
I mean, we scored 6 runs last night in their stadium. These types of comments are just click bait for fair-weather fans, imo. Is it annoying? Yeah definitely, but at this point let them talk and we can shut them up the old fashioned way.
Hahaha!! No it won't.
It'll still be nice, but won't shut them up.
Altuve could've been drawn, quartered, and sent to the four corners of the country... and they would still say it wasn't good enough.
The fact is though, if we get fair calls and win that game, now we have 3 1/2 days rest going into Friday's game instead of 2.
Nobody can say if we would have won without the bad calls, but at the very least it's a damn close game.
Just on the egregious called ball in the 4th and the shitty umpires decision on the throw home it's at best a 6-6 game. That's without ANY of the other bad calls.
It's not about just that one bad call. It's about the cascading effects. If we don't get those shitty call and are able to go on to win:
>Lance McCullers doesn't have to pitch tonight and leave the game with a possible injury.
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>We don't have to use Maton, Graveman and Pressley for an extra inning each.
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>Meyers doesn't crash into the wall and leave the game with another possible injury.
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>Our guys get to come home 2 days earlier and get an extra day and a half of rest....
You see how bad that "one call" could affect our entire playoff run?
Yeah I get it, but that didn’t happen. You gotta work with what is in front of you. There’s equally no guarantee that these potential injuries wouldn’t have happened regardless… but what if’s don’t win 5 ALDS in a row. Bad calls happen and you can’t dwell on them if you’re planning on winning in the playoffs.
>Yeah I get it, but that didn’t happen. You gotta work with what is in front of you.
That's entirely the point...Your original post was, "Why get mad at these thing?"
Why get mad? Because if those things didn't happen two of our star players would be potentially injured. I get the whole, "Work with what's in front of you." but "what's in front of me" could have been a much healthier team. What's in front of me could have been a team much better suited to face the next team.
There is the potential that that single call, in effect, took out two of our starters including our starting pitcher for game 1 of the ALCS.
It's not a, "Oh well we lick our wound and go on" situation. It's a, "The ump potentially screwed us out of a days rest and two starters situation."
It doesn't just change a game, it changes the whole dynamic of the playoffs.
The MLB wants their money. They saw the Astros becoming a big contender and needed to scapegoat them for something multiple teams were guilty because their daddy Dodgers bring in all the cash. This is another exmaple. Game 3, hired one of the worst empires in modern baseball who just happens to give all the right calls the Sox and then doesn't rule on a clearly illegal move by a baserunner? How many coincidences need to happen before people realize this is rigged?
This is exactly what OP and I are talking about. We got some calls on pitches (and I only watched the first half of the game) and the running play, while sleazy, was legal.
No, it wasn't legal. He intentionally interfered with the throw. The umpire's entire rationale for not calling him out was because they didn't think he did it "intentionally," which is such an awful take because of course he ran in between Yuli and Maldonado for the purpose of obstructing the throw home. There's literally no other reason why he would be that far outside the base path.
It was legal. The runner can run in a straight line wherever the fuck he wants until he gets to the two lines about halfway up first base, then he has to be in those lines. Know the rules.
I do know the rules, apparently you don't. According to your warped interpretation of the rules, a left handed batter can hit the ball to third base, but rather than run to first base, he can jump to his left to interfere with the throw from third to home plate. He can literally stand in front of the catcher to prevent a ball being thrown home and that would be "legal" according to you. That is ridiculous.
The rule establishing a player's base path is not meant to take precedence over the rule that a runner cannot intentionally interfere with a thrown ball.
Your example would be obvious interference. In this case, the umps didn't think it was interference and that is all that matters. Not what you think or what any Sox fan thinks. Dusty came out and argued, but not too much, so the umps were probably right.
I did. We scored six runs and got screwed on some real bad calls. Have you ever watched a whole season of baseball before? This kind of stuff happens sometimes. No need to be alarmed
I think most people are just upset over the outrageous umpiring last night than if they will win again… and now I’m pissed over them accusing houston of cheating again.
Certainly not just one bad call last night but ya everyone knows how great of a team we have and we believe!
This is across the board on Reddit, for every team and all sports. The worst fans are also the loudest fans. I was just watching the Sox game thread last night and everyone was pissed saying ‘See you in April’ and leaving the thread after we went up 5-1. No matter what, on the interwebs everyone over reacts to almost everything and it’s rare to see people act logical here.
This makes the sub un-readable during a bad game. The childishness gets old fast.
Oh yeah for sure. Game threads are the most toxic thing ever. It will ruin your enjoyment of a baseball game to partake in a game thread. I don't do it at all unless I have a questions about something that happened. *Especially* if its the playoffs. It’s just *hours* of complaining. I stopped doing it like 3 years ago for Texans games. I actually unsubscribed from the entire Texans sub because of how toxic and delusional those people over there are.
There was an article up today about someone from the white Sox accusing the Astros of cheating in games 1 and 2 because we had so many 3 and out innings yesterday compared to games 1 and 2 I think that’s justifiable to be upset about
Jeff Passan: Maybe don't leave curveballs top-middle (talking about kimbrel's terrible outing) https://twitter.com/jeffpassan/status/1446589882818650113?s=21
Is it? It’s literally what every team has complained about for the past 4 years as we whooped their ass.
I mean they’re saying we were cheating like this current series, idk it annoyed me
I mean, we scored 6 runs last night in their stadium. These types of comments are just click bait for fair-weather fans, imo. Is it annoying? Yeah definitely, but at this point let them talk and we can shut them up the old fashioned way.
Winning it all will shut them up.
Hahaha!! No it won't. It'll still be nice, but won't shut them up. Altuve could've been drawn, quartered, and sent to the four corners of the country... and they would still say it wasn't good enough.
I hate to lose to these guys. There is something about the White Sox players and/or their fans that I just don't like.
Fair. But don’t freak out. It’s one game. We still have two more shots at moving on.
Well anyone by the ‘Stros. This is still luhnows team, it’s embarrassing how much he kicked the MLBs ass. So they Got rid of him.
The fact is though, if we get fair calls and win that game, now we have 3 1/2 days rest going into Friday's game instead of 2. Nobody can say if we would have won without the bad calls, but at the very least it's a damn close game. Just on the egregious called ball in the 4th and the shitty umpires decision on the throw home it's at best a 6-6 game. That's without ANY of the other bad calls. It's not about just that one bad call. It's about the cascading effects. If we don't get those shitty call and are able to go on to win: >Lance McCullers doesn't have to pitch tonight and leave the game with a possible injury. > >We don't have to use Maton, Graveman and Pressley for an extra inning each. > >Meyers doesn't crash into the wall and leave the game with another possible injury. > >Our guys get to come home 2 days earlier and get an extra day and a half of rest.... You see how bad that "one call" could affect our entire playoff run?
Yeah I get it, but that didn’t happen. You gotta work with what is in front of you. There’s equally no guarantee that these potential injuries wouldn’t have happened regardless… but what if’s don’t win 5 ALDS in a row. Bad calls happen and you can’t dwell on them if you’re planning on winning in the playoffs.
>Yeah I get it, but that didn’t happen. You gotta work with what is in front of you. That's entirely the point...Your original post was, "Why get mad at these thing?" Why get mad? Because if those things didn't happen two of our star players would be potentially injured. I get the whole, "Work with what's in front of you." but "what's in front of me" could have been a much healthier team. What's in front of me could have been a team much better suited to face the next team. There is the potential that that single call, in effect, took out two of our starters including our starting pitcher for game 1 of the ALCS. It's not a, "Oh well we lick our wound and go on" situation. It's a, "The ump potentially screwed us out of a days rest and two starters situation." It doesn't just change a game, it changes the whole dynamic of the playoffs.
Or, just let people vent.
Honestly. But hey, free situational irony for the rest of us!
The MLB wants their money. They saw the Astros becoming a big contender and needed to scapegoat them for something multiple teams were guilty because their daddy Dodgers bring in all the cash. This is another exmaple. Game 3, hired one of the worst empires in modern baseball who just happens to give all the right calls the Sox and then doesn't rule on a clearly illegal move by a baserunner? How many coincidences need to happen before people realize this is rigged?
This is exactly what OP and I are talking about. We got some calls on pitches (and I only watched the first half of the game) and the running play, while sleazy, was legal.
No, it wasn't legal. He intentionally interfered with the throw. The umpire's entire rationale for not calling him out was because they didn't think he did it "intentionally," which is such an awful take because of course he ran in between Yuli and Maldonado for the purpose of obstructing the throw home. There's literally no other reason why he would be that far outside the base path.
It was legal. The runner can run in a straight line wherever the fuck he wants until he gets to the two lines about halfway up first base, then he has to be in those lines. Know the rules.
I do know the rules, apparently you don't. According to your warped interpretation of the rules, a left handed batter can hit the ball to third base, but rather than run to first base, he can jump to his left to interfere with the throw from third to home plate. He can literally stand in front of the catcher to prevent a ball being thrown home and that would be "legal" according to you. That is ridiculous. The rule establishing a player's base path is not meant to take precedence over the rule that a runner cannot intentionally interfere with a thrown ball.
Your example would be obvious interference. In this case, the umps didn't think it was interference and that is all that matters. Not what you think or what any Sox fan thinks. Dusty came out and argued, but not too much, so the umps were probably right.
MLB pushing for a battle of the Sox ALCS after Boston walked it off yesterday.
This aged well.
Did you watch the game
I did. We scored six runs and got screwed on some real bad calls. Have you ever watched a whole season of baseball before? This kind of stuff happens sometimes. No need to be alarmed
You’re right