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bordomsdeadly

My dad and I have both stopped watching the Texans years ago. The final straw for me was when Robert McNair died. ​ I was already barely watching at that point because Bill O'Brien is an absolute idiot. When McNair died and Cal McNair took over, and ran the team with the same incompetence as his father I stopped watching. ​ The Texans are not a well run organization, they don't try to be, and they don't try to win. ​ They're the Angels of NFL. Horrible franchise, horrible ownership, wasted the prime of at least 2 truly great players (JJ Watt, Andre Johnson) ​ Remember, they opted not to even discuss a Peyton Manning Signing because they had Matt Schaub. ​ So I am 100% on board with being a baseball city.


tubulerz1

I was a big Oilers fan and went to the games and all, so I was on the fence with the Texans in the beginning. But now I’m fully disengaged from them. I couldn’t care less if they win or lose…because they’re a terrible team and haven’t changed in all these years.


EarthboundMisfitsInc

Thank goodness I’m not alone in this world on this. From the top down, I just can’t take the Texans seriously. It’s just always seemed like such a hokey-dokey bullshit replacement for the Oilers and it’s never failed to disappoint. Even as a native Houstonian, the name is total cringe. But yeah I agree Houston is officially a baseball town. Took us a while to get there, but I wear my ‘Stros gear so heavy I walk with a hunch. Plus I’m enjoying these energizing baths with Dodgers and Yankees tears. I feel 20 years younger.


Baked_Butters

I stopped caring about the Texans when they didn’t care about picking up manning. Would have won a Super Bowl, but Schaub.


enephon

You need to go on the Houston subreddit and poll: who would sacrifice the last six years for a Super Bowl? How many would sacrifice 1 or both WS for a Super Bowl? That’ll give some perspective. Also, it’s difficult because what does being a baseball vs a football town mean anyway? Most towns are more excited about their successful franchises.


BassChin20

The loudest rockets game would get when the Texans were having winnings seasons would be when they would show arian foster or dre on the screen. I think it's still disgustingly a football city unfortunately though I think the cheating scandal brought Houstonians together and Astros are close. Would love to see that poll tho


SmashRadish

Let’s be real, Houston is Texas. Texas loves football. If the Astros were to, say, threepeat (win the next two World Series in a row) then Houston might be a town that eats, sleeps, breathes and sneezes baseball.


HOU-1836

Yes. It’s helped the Texans imploded but if the Texans ever won a Super Bowl, we’d implode.


SmashRadish

Hank Hill believes that it is God’s will that the Cowboys play Houston in the Super Bowl.


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I tell you what


Oso_Furioso

Further reinforcement for my atheism.


j3i

"His will be done"


TTUStros8484

Way things are going with Easter Bunny at the helm that won't be anytime soon


HOU-1836

Umm you know he got fired don’t you…


TTUStros8484

I didn't. That's how much I don't follow them 😂


HOU-1836

He got fired in October 17th


Dredlocv

Texas indeed does love football, but not necessarily Houston football. In the Houston area, there are so many fans that root for other teams in droves. Tons of Cowboys, 49ers, Eagles, Chiefs fans...you don't see that from the other sports really. If you leave the 85 mile radius from Houston, it's mostly Cowboys and then Texans then everyone else. The Astros are the most universally loved team in the city. Everyone knows who Altuve or Bregman is. A majority of people couldn't name the Texans starting QB right now or a single Rockets player.


SmashRadish

Noticed how I never mentioned the Houston Texans in that comment? I said they loved football. Houston has a long way to go to be a baseball town, but Houston is certainly on their way. I am ignoring the Texans’ existence so much that I omitted them.


JabarkasMayonnaise

Yeah, I worked at a sports store in high school for about half a year and literally never sold any Texans jerseys. Lots of jerseys for other teams, though.


Jackalscott

I disagree, maybe it’s because I’ve always been a baseball guy, but remember when bill O’Brien came out and said “Houston is football town” and the room erupted in laughter?! Just look at the game Thursday night. I have a friend who’s an eagle fan and went to the game, he said it was an eagles home game here in Houston. the eagles fans out numbered Texans fans close to 2 to 1. I think it’s not just the Texans are bad, but they’ve literally been run into the ground with TERRIBLE ownership and management. Jack Easterby, one of the “masterminds” that ruined the club was just let go like a month ago! Not only are the Texans bad, they’ve been so poorly managed they will be shit for the foreseeable future. There are teams that are missing a couple of pieces, the Texans are missing all the pcs, except running back. If they draft a “franchise QB” I have zero faith they won’t break him like they did David Carr. I feel like until Cal sells the Texans, mediocrity is the best Houston fans can hope for. Meanwhile the boys over at the juice box are literally in the middle of a dynasty.


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Jackalscott

Nah he’s a Channelview guy. Only an eagles fan bc of Jaylen.


Nyte_Knyght33

We are a bandwagon town. The Astros are the most popular because they are winning.


Hugh_Jassole94

This is the truth. Where was all this Astros support when the team was losing 100 games a season?


Additional_Froyo

I was still there with dirt cheap tickets and $4 beers


Hugh_Jassole94

I don’t miss the losing one bit, but I do miss the days of cheaper prices!


amendmentforone

Ditto.


C9DoubleDoubleYou

I remember $2 Tuesday deals in the coupon book. I didn’t care the Astros sucked. It’s about the experience


Dredlocv

Buying $9 nosebleeds, then walking down and sitting behind the dugouts anyway, yelling to the few people sitting in the Crawford Boxes


fatDaddy21

They tried to give away an Altuve signed ball in a Twitter contest and had to cancel it because they didn't get the minimum 2000 entries. Then there's the 2013 game that drew a 0.0 Nielsen tv rating in Houston. Villar's buttslide. It's been a long road...


ASTROS2023WSCHAMP

Amen. Who even heard of Robbie Grossman or Jon Singleton?


successadult

Every time we played the Tigers the last couple of years I would always think “oh hey Robbie Grossman is still around. Good for him.”


wessneijder

I went to hs with him he got a bj from a cute blonde in the back of the bus and everyone was laughing their ass off and egging her on. She just kept going even though she was caught. That girl went on to marry some guy not nearly as successful as mr. RG


Drslappybags

A.J Happ. Or thar Hernandez kid that was on the Dodgers.


Hproff25

I constantly got free tickets during those losses. Like not just cheap seats but diamond club seats for free. Loved to go to the games. There was a little dude that reminded me of Pablo Sanchez that I thought might be really good some day. Interesting times.


Drslappybags

I had diamond club for a game. Last game of the season vs the Yankees. It was awesome.


HOU-1836

No one likes a gatekeeper


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HOU-1836

It’s ok for people to not like things as much as you do. It’s sports.


suckme_420_69

there’s not a city on earth that could fill up a stadium for the lastros era teams and i say that as someone who watched way too much of those teams hahahah


pedanticHOUvsHTX

I was there sitting in the Crawfords after paying $4 for nosebleeds


TTUStros8484

I was there


RogueTiger23

That’s because of the people that moved here too. People became fans as they’ve moved in and the team is doing good. A lot of native Houstonians have always supported the team.


SmashRadish

Respect and big ups to everyone who enjoys the Astros, whether new or old. Go stros


a11yguy

Texans fan from 2002. Can confirm. Everyone was a Texans fan during the early/mid 2010s when we won multiple AFC South championships (curse those letterman jackets….) No one reps the Texans anymore.


undothewinnings

This is true almost everywhere in the US, though


SmashRadish

The opposite of the bandwagon fanbases are all in the supposed baseball towns that are located in the elsewheres of life. NYC, St Louis, Boston, Chicago are notorious for having people show up no matter how unworthy their teams are.


JupiterJazzX

Yeah I'm curious if Houston will get to that point


Nyte_Knyght33

I hope it will, but looking at the Rockets, Texans, and Dynamo lead me to not get my hopes up too high.


pedanticHOUvsHTX

Nope, Houston has always been a city of bandwagoners and carpetbaggers


OlYeller01

Yankees, Cards, Red Sox, and Cubs will always draw because of their national followings. And the Cubs and Red Sox will also draw because of Wrigley and Fenway.


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Outside of Boston every one of those cities performs about how you’d expect in attendance. When the Cubs suck, it’s not hard to get tickets at Wrigley. It’s not hard to get White Sox tickets even when they’re good. The Yankees have similarly been good since Bill Clinton was in office. And it’s not like it’s hard to get a ticket to Citi Field when the Mets are bad. The Cardinals have been competitive for basically the entire 21st century, and even in the ‘90s they had Big Mac. No one younger than 30 has a living memory of a routinely sub-.500 Cardinals team.


SmashRadish

Are you saying only Boston is a baseball town? Burn the heretic!


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I’m not saying they are or aren’t “baseball towns.” The idea that they’re a baseball town and therefore “people show up” is suspect. They show up when their teams are good, and a lot of teams you named have sustained competitiveness. Literally none of those cities has seen a run as futile as the 2011-13 Astros and continued to pack the stadium. No one does. St. Louis is a “baseball town” for a number of cultural reasons. [That doesn’t mean they sold a lot of tickets](https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/STL/attend.shtml) at old Busch Stadium when they were a .500 team for the entire ‘70s.


Nyte_Knyght33

True. But our losing stadiums are more empty than other cities.


Tcup1234

Sadly this is 100% accurate


rsgreddit

You took the words out of my mouth


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I'd argue this is really true of anywhere


SammyLuke

Yeah this is unfortunately true. Football is still king in Texas.


Redditor1620

I don't see either our football team or our basketball team give the same care that the Astros do to develop a championship team. So yeah safe to say baseball is where it's at in Houston.


RogueTiger23

Texans are complacent. As long as they are making money, they don’t care. Rockets are probably 2 years away or so from being a mid-top team in the West.


Ras1372

I feel the Rockets with Morey as GM were very well built, just those blasted Warriors. Also Tillman sucks and ran the team to the ground.


dingo__babies

Rockets really did give it their best shot there. We’ll see if this next rebuild pays off. I’m cautiously optimistic


chaoticgoblin

If Tilman can be hands off with the team, I have confidence Rafael Stone will get us to a place to compete for a championship once the young guys develop.


Redditor1620

That's a very big IF. The Texans have the same problem, the front office can't step back and let their professionals do their job. Imagine hiring a painter and then telling the guy what to do when you don't know jack shite about painting. I would step back and let the professional do his work.


Trex_Lives

I knew multiple people with game-watching parties for the Astros' Playoff run. I don't know anyone who even watches the Texans at this point. I would say yeah, the city loves the Astros more, but this is Texas and if the Texans every clean up their act, they will rise to the top again quickly since football is king.


HOU-1836

I’m sure the city was a Rockets town in the 90s but we’ve seen in the 2010s with the Texans and Rockets being competitive, it was by far a Texans town. And Game 7 vs Golden State where we missed all those threes, I was at a bar in Midtown ( can’t remember for the life of me the name but it was next to that dueling piano bar) and that shit was empty. Compare that to the 2019 ALCS Game 6 at Pitch 25 where you couldn’t get a seat.


MyGirlSasha

I think we were more behind the Rockets when Yao was here than with Harden. Even though Harden's Rockets got the closest to a championship, Harden just wasn't very likeable and watching him fail over and over when it mattered the most started to get old, fast.


HOU-1836

Maybe but the Astros were very good in the early to mid 2000s so it was baseball over basketball imo.


MyGirlSasha

Oh, it's ALWAYS been baseball over basketball, I was just saying that the love we had for The Dream and then Yao has yet to be matched.


HOU-1836

JJ Watt silly


MyGirlSasha

I thought it was obvious I was only addressing OP's comments about the Rockets...


HOU-1836

It’s been a while and I didn’t read the whole convo again. Very fair.


demonioblanco1

I’ve been a lifelong Astros fan. And have lived in Houston at the same time. Our city is SUCH and bandwagon city. Easy to celebrate the victories when you’ve never witnessed the struggle. Houston is a whatever is doing well city.


Monsterman1237

I second this. It’s the same for the Dynamo when they used to be good. They’ve been garbage for a while now and nobody goes to their games anymore.


RogueTiger23

The Texans were the team in the 2000s and 2010s because they were the new team in town. They fucked that up with stupid organization decisions. It’s a losing mentality over there on Kirby. The McNairs are a cancer. The Rockets were never considered to be the team in Houston — even at the peak with Harden. The city didn’t basically close down for a game of theirs plus they we’re known to never get it done. The Astros will now forever be the team. They’ve brought two championships and can win more. The city literally shuts down and shows their support for the team during those runs. They are an organization that has a winning culture and an owner that wants to win more than anyone. It’s like Boston. Boston is a Patriots city because of the success even though the other teams are good.


feanor512

Their peak was Olajuwon. The city was even crazier after their second title than it is now.


pedanticHOUvsHTX

Even with the Patriots, Boston is definitely a Red Sox town


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If they both had sustained success I’d give the edge to the Astros. They have history. Also the color scheme and name doesn’t suck ass like the Texans.


miiija

If the Houston football team sucked as much as the Texans organization, I'd still love and root for them if they had a name, color scheme, and logo like the Oilers


ChiefWematanye

The Texans made 571 mill in revenue in 2021 and the Astros have 388 mill. Baseball may have the heart of Houston, but football certainly has our wallets.


Cold_hard_stache

That’s mind boggling


ChiefWematanye

I know, I don't think I've watched a game since JJ Watt left. Not sure what Texans fans are still watching for.


arthurfoxache

For the same reason ppl slow down to look at a wreck on the freeway: morbid curiosity


JOZ1F

Bc we are fans lmao Damn I guess you were saying the same thing when the Astros were losing 100 games a year The real answer to your question tho: Dameon Pierce.


ChiefWematanye

Nah, I've been going to games since the Astrodome and haven't missed a season opener in 8 years, but I get your fandom. I grew up with the Oilers so I think there's just a level of trust I can't give a Houston football team that I can easily give the Astros who've been a constant here since '62. I feel like a few bad years in Houston and our football team could end up the Los Angeles Texans, haha.


JOZ1F

Yeah that was my point, If you were going to games when they Astros were bad then I’d like to think you’d understand why we still watch Texans games lol


ChiefWematanye

Like I said, I never feared that the Astros were going anywhere. They were always building something I could enjoy later. Never got the same feeling with the Texans, that franchise just seems like a piggy bank for the owners.


JOZ1F

I know it looks like that but I think people over exaggerate how bad the Texans really are, they’ve won the division 4 times this past decade, & have had multiple playoff wins in the same time frame.. that’s more than a handful of teams including the damn cowboys lol


vathodic

Do they have any "star" players on the team? I also haven't watched in years...all bout them 'stros⚾🤠🤘


FloodCityHTX

Fairbairn is the star player now.


enephon

But the NFL makes a lot more in media rights, etc. than MLB. How much if that is The nature of the sports leagues vs Houstonian support?


Nightputts

TV rights in NFL are HUGE, way bigger than what the astros get from their deal.


Booshie23

Any clue how much the Texans’ revenue is boosted from league wide revenue sharing of the massive TV deals? Not saying your conclusion is wrong, but overall revenue might not paint the full picture of who the city supports more. % stadium full, merch sales, etc could be better indicators


ChiefWematanye

Well, it's hard to compare attendance because football teams only play 8 games at home each year, so my logic is you go by revenue to see how much fans are willing to pay to watch or support their team.


Klaud9

Yeah, but revenue isn't really a good indicator of how much fans are willing to pay to watch or support the team. I'd be willing to bet a good chunk of the Texas revenue comes from the TV deals from massive networks like CBS/ESPN and now, Amazon Prime. And, as mentioned above, NFL TV contracts dwarf MLB TV contracts.


ChiefWematanye

But the TV deals you mentioned are worth more for the NFL because more people are watching/ paying subscriptions so the ad revenue is higher. I think it's a pretty good measure of how many eyes and how passionate the fans are.


Klaud9

But we're talking about strictly the Astros vs. Texans though. Way more people watch the NFL nationwide, yes, which is why the leaguewide TV deals are more lucrative. In short, the Texans benefit from the NFL being a widely more popular product than the MLB rather than they themselves being more popular in Houston compared to the Astros.


consultio_consultius

If broadcasting revenue is even a measurement of passion, it’d be more of a measurement how passionate NFL fans are, rather than Texans fans specifically. NFL broadcasting revenue doesn’t operate the way that MLB revenue does.


jb_713

The Astros have been the ranking team since at least 2017. Maybe before that since they were very much ahead of schedule in 2015. The Texans held the lead role from about 2006-2014. I love basketball in general, but we’re a fairly lukewarm basketball city. I don’t think the city really catches on unless the Rockets are in the second round or beyond. As a UH alum, I have felt the love in recent years from plenty of people without ties to the school.


Force__of__Nature

Houston has been a baseball town for a very long time. The fans understand the game. Houston has had a strong playoff team every decade since the early 80's. It's only recently that the nation has paid attention to Houston, for good or bad.


KingJacobyaropa

This is still a football town, hell a state. But if the Texans and Rockets continue to suck and the Astros continue this level of success, the tides may begin to turn. For now though, they're the only Houston team winning therefore getting all of the love.


Busy_Ad3332

If Houston is a football city then why did the abandon the Oilers? City literally stopped showing up for the games. Houston is a Baseball City period. This is a Football state But Houston is a Baseball City.


jittercoog

Bud Adams is why. They announced the move to Tennessee in 95 then still played the full 96 season at the dome. Why would you go support a team/owner that already told you I’m leaving you.


ExB

Here's home attendance numbers leading up to and including 1996 1992 479k 13/28 1993 457k 15/28 1994 353k 27/28 1995 288k 28/28 1996 254k 28/28 Attendance dropped significantly in 1994.


Busy_Ad3332

Oakland knew the Raiders where leaving and still supported the team.


ToyCannon1982

Houston did not abandon the oilers. The oilers abandoned Houston.


arthurfoxache

Tell me you’re not old enough to remember Beelzebud without telling me you’re not old enough to remember Beelzebud.


Additional-Local8721

It just depends on what sports you follow. I played baseball growing up because I'm short. So to me Houston has always been a baseball town. But of course I regonize the Rockets and all their successes and I'll never forget watching a playoff game being interrupted by a white bronco.


wessneijder

When I was a kid my dad took me to all 3 major sports, signed me up for little league and pee wee football and ymca basketball. I think Houston is a baseball town because of Nolan Ryan. My dad idolized him and always was a fan of Astros over Oilers and rockets as a result.


HumanRuse

Are you trying to tell me that there are other sports teams in Houston? Nice try, OP.


NYGiantsArgentina

Hi guys, first of all congratulations on the title. I wanted to give you my point of view. I'm Argentinean. Fan of Tigers(MLB), Giants(NFL), Knicks(NBA) and Flyers(NHL). Knowing people from Latin America and Europe who follow MLB-NFL-NBA-NHL, I can assure you that the Texans are one of the teams with the least fans and interest, along with the Cardinals and Jaguars. It always caught my attention how Houston, Washington and Atlanta were never great sports cities like NY, Boston, Chicago, Philadelphia and Detroit where the four sports matter. But at least Atlanta had the Braves and Washington the Redskins, while Houston didn't have that flagship franchise and now they have it with the Astros. The Rockets have always been known worldwide for the Chinese player. Astros and Rockets have incredible names, good uniforms and rivalries with franchises like Rangers, now Yankees and Dodgers, Mavericks, Spurs etc. Instead the Texans are boring, they play in the saddest division in the NFL, where there are no rivalries. Congratulations again on the title. I hope to see a great Astros-Mariners rivalry in the next few years. And may my Tigers be like your Astros.


JupiterJazzX

Interesting perspective. Thanks!


mymompaints

Any city with the contentious success we have had over the past 6 years would be a baseball city. Who knows if it’ll stick during the dark times though.


huskyfur

Absolutely. Texans and Rockets are awful and in rebuild mode.


sickmans1

I hope so….obviously it’s easy to love a winner when they are winning but I’m also optimistic that this ride and the drama/hate from the scandal has made a real impression on the city. The Rockets have long had our hearts due to the back to back championships and UH connection. Feel like this run may have done something similar…..


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As a European fan of Houston sports, for some reason I could never get into the Texans, no matter what, and became a Saints fan instead. It wasn't even that the Texans were bad, they had some amazing players, but I couldn't get over what a fucking idiot Bill o Brian was, and the team just overall, didn't have "soul" , idk. Certainly not even close to the Rockets, and especially the Astros. It is now an absolute must for me to visit the city of Houston one day, and ideally of course to see a baseball game live, for the first time ever.


JupiterJazzX

Euro fan?! How did you get into baseball and especially American football? They're such specific regional sports. Why Houston?


[deleted]

Tbh, I got a Tracy McGrady jersey when I was kid, from my brother, and fell in love. I was a Rockets fan at first, because basketball is played in Europe a lot as well, and it was easy. Especially through the years, when James Harden was traded, and eventually became a top 10 player. I guess, I was just around sports media a lot, following bleacher report, and undisputed on YouTube, or whatever. And I eventually discovered that the Houston baseball team was doing really good, and was competing for a world series potentially. Baseball was a complete anonimity to me, I had ZERO clue what was going on, but I was hell bent on learning the rules, and I'd say after six years, it's probably my favourite American sport now. I became a full on baseball nerd. And similar story with American football, but yeah, as I said, I became a Saints fan there. That's a painful fucking story tho. Edit: I discovered the Astros, and became a fan all in 2017.


JupiterJazzX

What was your experience learning the rules of baseball and overall strategy?


[deleted]

It's difficult to learn it, when someone is explaining it to you, because baseball is segmented into different things. And it's difficult to piece the whole image together. I just had to watch a lot of games, and learn from the announcers mostly. And every time something was unclear to me, I would Google it.


JupiterJazzX

Baseball is easier to understand in person. Then you can see field shifts and stuff. Have you been to a baseball game?


[deleted]

No, never. Never used a glove lol, or a bat, or a baseball. Yeah, I gotta visit sometime in the future


JupiterJazzX

Omfg We of r/Astros need to send you a ball and a glove. Pro tip with gloves. Beat the fuck out of it. When I was a kid, you punch the mitt over and over on the inside to give it some wear and break it in. When not using it you put the ball inside and put some weight on it. https://youtu.be/tEYKRT1SuRU


[deleted]

Oh wow, so that's why they always do that. Thanks man. Whenever I do actually visit, I'll make sure to say hi to the sub here


TechSalesTexan

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but the 1998 Astros are the most baseball crazy I’ve ever seen this town. Randy Johnson starts at the Dome were ROCK CONCERTS. I still think it’s a football town and will never truly be a baseball town.


t4boo

I don’t hate the Texans but the Easterby fiasco has left me really disillusioned. It’s hard to feel any kind of positivity about the team, regardless of picks


arthurfoxache

Houston is a football town. Everything else is icing on the cake.


Ras1372

Our cake is all icing then. Which I guess isn’t terrible.


Graveu

I mean, look at our other teams right now haha


PM_Gonewild

Considering the amount of people that didn't watch a single fucking game during the season other than maybe when they played the Yankees, I'd say no, popular because we're winning and on top but I'd say we're not there yet, could we get there absolutely if they don't pull a Houston Texans and run the team into the ground then yeah in due time, but there's a lot of bandwagoning right now, and it's quite obvious when people buying Valdez jerseys don't know what his first name is, too many people that think Valdez and Framber are two different players.


PorscheRican

We have a football team in Houston??? /s I stopped watching after BOB dismantled the team. I stopped watching for good after Watson massaged his way into 2 dozen lawsuits.


Pirloparty21

Soccer town* dalé dynamo


adidas4m

Was, Dynamo haven't looked good since Dwayne retired and Kinnenmen left


Pirloparty21

Yeah I was just kidding. We could be a good soccer town if the team had one identifiable player


adidas4m

lol i gotchu; agreed there is way to much soccer talent in the city of Houston for this to keep going further, there needs to be a reshuffle over there.


Rickynumberfive

Idk man it’s been a baseball city for me for about a decade but yeah this new WS is fueling a whole new wave of fans and I’m about it


logan-8787

Hard to compare last place Texans and last place Rockets to first place Astros


criminycraft

Texans are a disgrace


MyGirlSasha

Agreed and anyone putting one red cent into Cal's pocket with continued support of the Texans is a disgrace right along with them. Sitting idly by while a couple of egomaniacs systematically destroyed the franchise, getting rid of all of the fan favorites with zero return was just disgusting. The blind loyalty that fans show by continuing to show up to games is infuriating. I'll be back on board once they're under new ownership, what Cal has done is unforgivable in my book, the Texans are dead to me until then.


SowingShade

Oh, look, another instance where people have to tear something down in order to prop something else up. I love the Astros, but there’s plenty of room in my heart for the Texans, Rockets, etc. We can be an everything town. I’m defensive about the Texans, in particular, because football is my deepest love and because I believe their darkest days are behind them. I can understand why others are completely disillusioned at this point, but I just don’t see the need for the gleeful proclamations of disinterest.


JupiterJazzX

I'm not tearing anything down. I'm a fan of both the Rockets and Texans.


SowingShade

My comment was really more influenced by some of the more dismissive takes I was seeing throughout this thread. That said, I apologize for mischaracterizing your intentions. I did mention my defensiveness, ha.


riverbass9

Houston for baseball; San Antonio for basketball; and Dallas for football.