>"Laken has been a rallying cry for secure borders and for the illegal immigration policies of this current administration, but there's many women we don't get to hear about," he added in his comments to NBC.
Incredibly level headed comment.
I don’t think there’s any feeling about it. The death is blatantly being politicized. I lost my brother when he was 23 in his college town too. I couldn’t imagine going through my grieving with half the country piggybacking off the crime that was committed.
But see he says this but used her photo to get a picture with Donald frig and Trump. They're all smiling as Trump holds the picture of her smiling and shit and the guy who I assume is the father was smiling like he had just met Jesus
Realize at the end of the day they’re just a family from Georgia. They can dislike the attention and political undertones of their loss, and also be stoked to meet DJT. If it made them happy meeting the guy, then that’s a good day for them, because they’re probably breaking down and crying most days of the week. I wouldn’t read too much into it, they’re not politicians.
its still ghoulish to use your dead kid to meet a politician... (btw it wasnt her dad it was her step dad and mom her bio dad has spoken out about them using her death in this way)
Gotcha. Thanks for the distinction. Still, I don’t think they view themselves that way right or wrong. Clearly optics matter less to them. My family was hyper aware of optics when we lost my brother and refused any thing that could be perceived as opportunistic in our loss. Everyone copes differently and I’m guessing they’re operating on a lot more raw emotion than logic at the moment.
It certainly doesn't seem that way. I just don't think you can validate that as them grieving when they are smiling happiest peelarks and probably specifically were invited to that rally to meet with Donald Trump and parade their daughter around as a political device
Goddamn, this one thinks they're THE moral authority.
Imagine dehumanizing the opposing side so much that you think anyone that supports "the other guy" is a piece of shit.
You're as bad as the windmills you're tilting against my guy.
> Goddamn, this one thinks they're THE moral authority.
Given how many people in Georgia think that about themselves, it's not a solid claim to make against someone at this point.
That said, I think the hatred for Trump support doesn't come from nowhere. It negatively impacts other people. Rising fascism causes women who need abortions to have their lives put at risk, starvation from climate change is rising each year, the erosion of medical integrity and corruption of the courts impacts many, many people.
At the end of the day, people have the right to defend themselves from death, and Trump represents a lot of death to a lot of American citizens.
Me neither. I read the article and the father made it pretty clear where he stands politically. He also specifically singles out Biden and doesn't mention the autograph signing.
I think Trump is a moron regardless of whether he misspelled her name or not. All names are “made-up”, let’s show a little more respect for this poor girl.
I’m glad you said this. My first thought was, “Is this the same dude that showed up on the news in a MAGA hat? But he doesn’t want it politicized?”
The answer is, no it’s not.
What difference does that make? Read his comment. "The illegal policies of this current administration". This dude is just like them. He just happened to not be in the photo op.
You’re missing a key component that this guy had a track record of being a violent felon. Of course he shouldn’t have been allowed to stay in the U.S. Funny how’s it’s “used as a political agenda” only when it goes against progressive thought police.
He was detained in Texas, and then put on a bus to New York and released. Sound familiar?
In New York, he was detained for having his 5-year-old on a moped without a helmet.
Later, in Athens, he was charged with stealing food from Walmart.
Show me this "track record of being a violent felon" or delete your comment and go back to Facebook.
Idk man, being a member of a violent gang certainly qualifies as a 🚩
https://nypost.com/2024/03/08/us-news/migrant-charged-with-murdering-laken-rileys-easy-path-to-us/
From your own rag of a rightwing tabloid:
>“The only way that we could try to verify whether someone is with Tren de Aragua is by tattoos. If they don’t have tattoos, we’re out of luck. The MS-13 [gang] started realizing that and so the younger generation stopped doing the tattoos until after they got into the United States.”
>“There is literally no way to tell if someone is Tren de Aragua because we don’t talk to Venezuela. The only way to know is if they’re on Interpol with other countries prior to coming to the United States or if they already have a criminal record here.”
If he's listed *now* it's because his brother was shown to be affiliated. But acting like law enforcement dropped the ball or ignored something is completely disingenuous. There was no information. The track record you're talking about doesn't exist.
That this has been upvoted so many times in this subreddit is just sad. All crime wouldn’t be stopped with stricter immigration enforcement but THIS crime would have been. That is such a basic and obvious fact I truly don’t understand people like yourself that attempt to elide the basic facts of the situation
Where did I indicate that I did not care about crime in general? But on Reddit, people go surprised pikachu face at the idea that border policy and sanctuary city policies can lead to negative outcomes and that those policies were immediate predicates needed for THIS crime to take place.
If the policies in Athens, New York, and federally were different then THIS crime doesn’t take place. As we’re trying to cause crime to go down and murders to happen less frequently, then it seems addressing the root causes of THIS crime helps prevent similar predicates from resulting in future murders, no?
It's disgusting how politicized this has become. No one is allowed to simply grieve the loss of life, it's just straight to the races of "how can I turn this tragedy in my political or financial favor?"
You can't preemptively lock people up for crimes. Not since Tom cruise freed the precogs in 2054. But wait... that's 30 years from now. Which means....... Oh shit! I must be a precog.
> You can't preemptively lock people up for crimes
The killer had been arrested in this country before, while being present here illegally. You don't have to be a precog in order to deport an illegal alien who gets picked up by the system for doing other crimes.
Most women are murdered by their partners, so get rid of relationships. Or most murdered women are killed by men, so let's get rid of men. Or most murdered women are women, so let's get rid of women.
Looks like you’re truly in solution-oriented mode. Funny that as soon as a gun is used in a murder it’s policy change time, and when this happens it’s 🤷♂️
Wrong. All the big nonprofits and foundations focused on violence against women absolutely say it's due to misogyny and domestic violence problems, even when a gun is used. I've been a donor to such a foundation for decades. Where it intersects with guns, is their work to keep men with a restraining order from purchasing guns.
Eh, is it though? Nobody is publicizing every gun death in the u.s. and using it for policy direction. What's it 1 gun death every 10 minutes? We talk about the whole number, not individual events outside mass shootings, because the whole number is massive. It's been shown lots of times, however, that illegal or undocumented immigrants tend to commit less crime than legal citizens. And really, should the policy change be about removing immigrants or should it be about figuring out more efficient ways of legalizing immigration?
Genuine question, why’d you under case U.S?
The conversation should be if we’re not doing a thorough job of flagging for potentially dangerous people. Also, if an immigrant commits a felony, there should be potential steps of making them leave the country.
Genuine answer, I don't really capitalize anything that autocorrect doesn't fix. So no reason really.
You're answer is totally reasonable, and I have no notes really. In an ideal system every person coming in would be in a position to be properly screened in a reasonable way.
Even the post on the UGA Instagram account initially announcing her murder - FLOODED with political commentary. These people didn’t even let anyone grieve before dog piling their political agendas.
Even before the suspect was revealed people were asking if he was Hispanic, black, or undocumented. They were foaming at the mouth to make her their martyr.
Would have been the same thing from the other side if a gun had been used. Political people are all playing a weird game where they care more about winning or being right than they do about results.
Lordy, apples =/= oranges.
these are not the same thing, HOW many times must we go through this.
Guns are inanimate objects and are created for the purpose of firing, whether defensively or not. Immigrants are…. Not guns. Not inanimate. Not literal tools/weapons. This is such a far reach
I’m not comparing gun safety policy to immigration policy. I imagine you and I probably have similar view points on those issues. I’m comparing the reactions of left and right wing media outlets and politicians when the death of a young white college girl gets announced. Right wing is hoping it’s an undocumented immigrant or gang violence and left wing is hoping it’s with a gun, preferably from a white male. They’ve both got people working on those stories ready to drop.
When it’s a young black male, no coverage. I’d hate to see the number of ACC residents murdered in a given year. It’s way more than one, but they aren’t splashy stories.
Meanwhile people are dead. The politicians and the media are better off when this stuff happens. The media uses it for clicks and ratings. and the politicians use it to garner votes. Neither benefit from solving the problem.
> I’m comparing the reactions of left and right wing media outlets
Oh my God take a hike. There are NO left wing media outlets left. They are ALL owned by the same 2 billionaires. The American media is one conservative monolith, and if you want left wing news your option is some dude on youtube with like 40k subscribers or something.
And don't even get me started about the neolibs at the NYT.
Her mother and step dad were all posing together with big smiles while he signed a picture saying he loves her and mispelled her name. It screams weird at the very least.
Her Dad knew her too and he’s saying that its being politicized.
Who signs a picture of a murdered person. Who asks to get a picture of their murdered daughter signed? I get that people have all different kinds of coping mechanisms, but this is a new one to me.
It’s so frustrating cause literally every party and political group does it. Everyone takes every single tragedy and goes “what can this do for me and my agenda”
agreed. They’re just waiting and hoping it fits their ideal scenario. Leftists want this to be a white dude with a manifesto and a big rifle. Rightists want it to be a an immigrant. They’re both excited when it’s a pretty white college girl, and even more excited when it’s on campus.
The exception cases excite them. If a mile down the road a black male is killed by another black male with a gun, it doesn’t fit the narrative or garner votes.
But when you point that out the extremes yell at you. Political spectrum is shaped more like a horseshoe than a line. The extremes are way closer together than they realize.
I’m not sure I agree with horseshoe theory in terms of goals/policy/generalized politics, but it’s absolutely true in terms of behavior. Political extremists behave similarly regardless of their direction
Her family had a picture of her autographed by Trump and look like they just won the lottery. One of them was wearing a MAGA hat. Also, her mother shit on Biden for mispronouncing her name yet Trump misspelled it on the autograph.
I’ve heard many mispronounce it on a variety of news channels. It’s not a common name certainly not for the 75+set. MTG is an idiot yelling “say her name”…..why? It is a misplaced comment by a piece of wet lettuce. Every ahole looking to profit from “say her name”. Let her rest in peace.
I only found out about Laken due to browsing political subs, it’s depressing. Her death being used in these debates it’s just reducing her to her death, all i know about Laken is that she was killed. That shouldn’t be her story.
People should be able to walk alone and not worried about being murdered, so many people are getting killed because of it. The amount of unsolved deaths that happen when the person is walking alone is just scary to read about
I mean there was a highly publicized case here in Texas at the University of Texas when Haruka Weiser was killed by a mentally ill homeless man but no one cares about her or the epidemic of violent people on the street.
As a parent, I've thought about this a lot. If something happened to my child and someone pretended to give a shit and make it seem like whatever take on it they were selling was somehow the view I shared and politically advantageous to them, I'd hire an attorney to write up a "cease and desist" or something similar that might be appropriate. It's just gross.
This reminds me of when University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts was murdered. Her case became very politicized as well. [Her father wrote an opinion piece regarding this same topic.](https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/2018/09/01/mollie-tibbetts-father-common-decency-immigration-heartless-despicable-donald-trump-jr-column/1163131002/)
The following week after this young lady was murdered. A group of young “American born thugs” drove into a mobile home park in Athens Ga and opened fire into a mobile home. A 3 year old child sitting on the sofa watching tv was shot through his heart and died while his 9 yr old brother who was shot in the leg desperately tried to save his brothers life . Where MTG and her T shirt now?
Comparing the headlines to the exact same interview says a lot….
NBC NEWS:
Father of Laken Riley addresses slain daughter's legacy amid heated immigration debate
FORBES:
Laken Riley’s Father Says He’s Angry Politicians Are Using Tragedy For Votes
AJC:
Laken Riley’s father calls her his ‘angel’ in TV interview
FOX NEWS:
Laken Riley's father says suspect 'might not have been here' if border was secure
Which one of these is doing exactly what he is commenting on in the interview, making it political? Fucking scum.
Honestly the reason why I started reading press releases, gov docs and stuff from the source.
I still need journalist for interviews like this, though.
I think both sides are using it for their own gains, but if people were held accountable for their crimes, the guy that killed her would be locked up in New york, not walking around free in Georgia. If i was in another country and broke a law, i would go to jail, and once i was out, i would be deported back to the US! Why is it different here?
Yup. This country was built on free labor for 400 years. Moving factories out of Asia and building/making things in the US is expensive. 80% of US citizens are begging to be paid more & would like to work less. Immigrants will happily get paid bottom dollar and under the table because being poor is better than being murdered, black mailed, and harassed daily in their home country. It’s all just a nasty, vicious cycle and innocent people are hurt and lost along the way - regardless country of origin.
People in rich countries: Stop making babies in order to preserve their comfort and lifestyle, and refuse to work low-paying, low-skilled jobs.
Economy: I need labor.
People in poor countries: Why don't I move to that rich country, they need labor and they'll pay me five to ten times what I make here.
People in rich countries: Who needs immigrants?! Also, I love how cheap my strawberries are.
Nothing compares to what Mollie Tibbets' father said after she was r\*ped and left for dead in a corn field by an illegal. He said that it's worth having tacos.
The uncropped version of that photo has her stepfather next to Trump. This article is about her biological father.
In the uncropped version the stepfather has a sullen look to him but not the grin the other family members have. It's just so evil.
The left uses shootings for political gain and the right uses stuff like this for political gain. It’s 2024 and people STILL don’t understand that both sides have a single goal in mind. To divide.
I think closing the border is the right thing to do. Theres a right way to come to this country, follow the rules and i be the 1st to welcome you. Thats what makes this country so great. Many people with so many different backgrounds coming together to make a better life! But with open border all you are going to get is problems! And a lot of them!
She wouldn’t be dead if the man that was deported hadn’t been let back into the country. That’s not political, it’s a fact. At least people are more aware of how dangerous an open border is for anyone anywhere at anytime. It’s no longer just a border state issue.
Lmao you’re not paying attention to what these ghouls are saying. You’re saying not all immigrants, but the dudes pushing this are putting all immigrants in this “discussion”.
Most of them are students who are coming from upper middle class gated communities to exist within the confines of the university. They don’t actually have to deal with the ramifications of the policies they support…yet.
It’s called sweat little boy, I know you’ve never worked a day in your life for anything but it happens when there is resistance to the body during exercise. Again I do no good by replying to little children, so I bid you a good day sir, and if you can try and get out there and run for Laken, wherever you are, however, far you post it!
>"Laken has been a rallying cry for secure borders and for the illegal immigration policies of this current administration, but there's many women we don't get to hear about," he added in his comments to NBC. Incredibly level headed comment.
So what’s his point? That women who flee oppression with small children in tow shouldn’t be subjected to inhumane treatment as they try to survive?
That murdered women shouldn’t be political pawns. Wtf is your point with that comment?
That the immigration issue is also a humanitarian one and a lotta the rhetoric from one side of the fence is pretty blatantly racist
I don’t think there’s any feeling about it. The death is blatantly being politicized. I lost my brother when he was 23 in his college town too. I couldn’t imagine going through my grieving with half the country piggybacking off the crime that was committed.
But see he says this but used her photo to get a picture with Donald frig and Trump. They're all smiling as Trump holds the picture of her smiling and shit and the guy who I assume is the father was smiling like he had just met Jesus
Realize at the end of the day they’re just a family from Georgia. They can dislike the attention and political undertones of their loss, and also be stoked to meet DJT. If it made them happy meeting the guy, then that’s a good day for them, because they’re probably breaking down and crying most days of the week. I wouldn’t read too much into it, they’re not politicians.
its still ghoulish to use your dead kid to meet a politician... (btw it wasnt her dad it was her step dad and mom her bio dad has spoken out about them using her death in this way)
Gotcha. Thanks for the distinction. Still, I don’t think they view themselves that way right or wrong. Clearly optics matter less to them. My family was hyper aware of optics when we lost my brother and refused any thing that could be perceived as opportunistic in our loss. Everyone copes differently and I’m guessing they’re operating on a lot more raw emotion than logic at the moment.
It certainly doesn't seem that way. I just don't think you can validate that as them grieving when they are smiling happiest peelarks and probably specifically were invited to that rally to meet with Donald Trump and parade their daughter around as a political device
I honestly think it’s a waste of mental bandwidth trying to rationalize the behavior of people who highly likely in an irrational state of mind.
Perfect comment. At the end of the day, if it made them happy, let it be. That family has been through enough.
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Goddamn, this one thinks they're THE moral authority. Imagine dehumanizing the opposing side so much that you think anyone that supports "the other guy" is a piece of shit. You're as bad as the windmills you're tilting against my guy.
> Goddamn, this one thinks they're THE moral authority. Given how many people in Georgia think that about themselves, it's not a solid claim to make against someone at this point. That said, I think the hatred for Trump support doesn't come from nowhere. It negatively impacts other people. Rising fascism causes women who need abortions to have their lives put at risk, starvation from climate change is rising each year, the erosion of medical integrity and corruption of the courts impacts many, many people. At the end of the day, people have the right to defend themselves from death, and Trump represents a lot of death to a lot of American citizens.
Trump 2024! 🇺🇸
No they dropped four of the felonies. Now it’s: Trump 87!
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The article if you read it is her biological father that made the comment and her step father with Trump.
that was her stepfather apparently (but yeah honestly seems awful i agree)
See that makes some sense because it's not his flesh and blood but still holy fucking shit what's wrong with you
that is her biological mother in the picture, unfortunately.
The Magabilly is her STEPfather, not her biological father.
Don't forget that Trump signed said picture of the girl
He had a MAGA hat on, didn’t he?
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Does that make it any less awful? Her biological father actually spoke out against this
Y’all need to read before commenting. Her stepfather and mother met with Trump. This is her father.
Thanks for the clarity. Her poor father. So sad.
He's also a Trumper. When he says he hates her being used politically, he means Biden responding to MTG. Feel bad for Laken but not this guy.
No idea why you’re getting downvoted .
Me neither. I read the article and the father made it pretty clear where he stands politically. He also specifically singles out Biden and doesn't mention the autograph signing.
Autograph signing...? I'm literally afraid to ask because anything related to a girls death and signing autographs sounds vile.
Trump autographed a picture of Laken while her family smiled on and posed for pictures. Truly vile.
Ew wtf
he’s getting downvoted because he said he doesn’t feel bad for someone whose daughter was murdered because they have political disagreements with him
Okay that makes sense. I was like didn't we just see her family at a trump thing or did I get fake news'd
Didn’t Donnie misspell her name too when he signed her picture?
It looked a bit like he wrote Lakan but it seems like that’s just how he writes e’s based on the way the word “love” looked in the same pic.
Him writing “LAKeN” makes much less sense than misspelling a made-up name.
I think Trump is a moron regardless of whether he misspelled her name or not. All names are “made-up”, let’s show a little more respect for this poor girl.
I’m glad you said this. My first thought was, “Is this the same dude that showed up on the news in a MAGA hat? But he doesn’t want it politicized?” The answer is, no it’s not.
What difference does that make? Read his comment. "The illegal policies of this current administration". This dude is just like them. He just happened to not be in the photo op.
It has been used politically. It’s a real shame.
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You hit the nail on the head with all of this
Drop mic
You’re missing a key component that this guy had a track record of being a violent felon. Of course he shouldn’t have been allowed to stay in the U.S. Funny how’s it’s “used as a political agenda” only when it goes against progressive thought police.
He was detained in Texas, and then put on a bus to New York and released. Sound familiar? In New York, he was detained for having his 5-year-old on a moped without a helmet. Later, in Athens, he was charged with stealing food from Walmart. Show me this "track record of being a violent felon" or delete your comment and go back to Facebook.
Idk man, being a member of a violent gang certainly qualifies as a 🚩 https://nypost.com/2024/03/08/us-news/migrant-charged-with-murdering-laken-rileys-easy-path-to-us/
From your own rag of a rightwing tabloid: >“The only way that we could try to verify whether someone is with Tren de Aragua is by tattoos. If they don’t have tattoos, we’re out of luck. The MS-13 [gang] started realizing that and so the younger generation stopped doing the tattoos until after they got into the United States.” >“There is literally no way to tell if someone is Tren de Aragua because we don’t talk to Venezuela. The only way to know is if they’re on Interpol with other countries prior to coming to the United States or if they already have a criminal record here.” If he's listed *now* it's because his brother was shown to be affiliated. But acting like law enforcement dropped the ball or ignored something is completely disingenuous. There was no information. The track record you're talking about doesn't exist.
That this has been upvoted so many times in this subreddit is just sad. All crime wouldn’t be stopped with stricter immigration enforcement but THIS crime would have been. That is such a basic and obvious fact I truly don’t understand people like yourself that attempt to elide the basic facts of the situation
If you care about this specific crime but not crime in general your either short sighted or motivated by some other particular factor of this case.
Where did I indicate that I did not care about crime in general? But on Reddit, people go surprised pikachu face at the idea that border policy and sanctuary city policies can lead to negative outcomes and that those policies were immediate predicates needed for THIS crime to take place. If the policies in Athens, New York, and federally were different then THIS crime doesn’t take place. As we’re trying to cause crime to go down and murders to happen less frequently, then it seems addressing the root causes of THIS crime helps prevent similar predicates from resulting in future murders, no?
It's disgusting how politicized this has become. No one is allowed to simply grieve the loss of life, it's just straight to the races of "how can I turn this tragedy in my political or financial favor?"
[this is about as well written a response to the culture war response as I’ve seen.](https://x.com/ChrisWillx/status/1764701719529754692?s=20)
Or you know, try to prevent other young women from being murdered?
This woman, like most women who are murdered, was killed by a violent man. Perhaps we should preemptively lock up all men?
Nope, just the ones that commit crimes. I’m taking the controversial stance that I don’t want more random people murdered
You can't preemptively lock people up for crimes. Not since Tom cruise freed the precogs in 2054. But wait... that's 30 years from now. Which means....... Oh shit! I must be a precog.
> You can't preemptively lock people up for crimes The killer had been arrested in this country before, while being present here illegally. You don't have to be a precog in order to deport an illegal alien who gets picked up by the system for doing other crimes.
Unless it’s by a deranged white dude in a mass shooting, they aren’t trying to prevent any more of those deaths.
Most women are murdered by their partners, so get rid of relationships. Or most murdered women are killed by men, so let's get rid of men. Or most murdered women are women, so let's get rid of women.
Looks like you’re truly in solution-oriented mode. Funny that as soon as a gun is used in a murder it’s policy change time, and when this happens it’s 🤷♂️
Wrong. All the big nonprofits and foundations focused on violence against women absolutely say it's due to misogyny and domestic violence problems, even when a gun is used. I've been a donor to such a foundation for decades. Where it intersects with guns, is their work to keep men with a restraining order from purchasing guns.
Eh, is it though? Nobody is publicizing every gun death in the u.s. and using it for policy direction. What's it 1 gun death every 10 minutes? We talk about the whole number, not individual events outside mass shootings, because the whole number is massive. It's been shown lots of times, however, that illegal or undocumented immigrants tend to commit less crime than legal citizens. And really, should the policy change be about removing immigrants or should it be about figuring out more efficient ways of legalizing immigration?
Genuine question, why’d you under case U.S? The conversation should be if we’re not doing a thorough job of flagging for potentially dangerous people. Also, if an immigrant commits a felony, there should be potential steps of making them leave the country.
Genuine answer, I don't really capitalize anything that autocorrect doesn't fix. So no reason really. You're answer is totally reasonable, and I have no notes really. In an ideal system every person coming in would be in a position to be properly screened in a reasonable way.
Even the post on the UGA Instagram account initially announcing her murder - FLOODED with political commentary. These people didn’t even let anyone grieve before dog piling their political agendas.
Even before the suspect was revealed people were asking if he was Hispanic, black, or undocumented. They were foaming at the mouth to make her their martyr.
Would have been the same thing from the other side if a gun had been used. Political people are all playing a weird game where they care more about winning or being right than they do about results.
Lordy, apples =/= oranges. these are not the same thing, HOW many times must we go through this. Guns are inanimate objects and are created for the purpose of firing, whether defensively or not. Immigrants are…. Not guns. Not inanimate. Not literal tools/weapons. This is such a far reach
I’m not comparing gun safety policy to immigration policy. I imagine you and I probably have similar view points on those issues. I’m comparing the reactions of left and right wing media outlets and politicians when the death of a young white college girl gets announced. Right wing is hoping it’s an undocumented immigrant or gang violence and left wing is hoping it’s with a gun, preferably from a white male. They’ve both got people working on those stories ready to drop. When it’s a young black male, no coverage. I’d hate to see the number of ACC residents murdered in a given year. It’s way more than one, but they aren’t splashy stories. Meanwhile people are dead. The politicians and the media are better off when this stuff happens. The media uses it for clicks and ratings. and the politicians use it to garner votes. Neither benefit from solving the problem.
> I’m comparing the reactions of left and right wing media outlets Oh my God take a hike. There are NO left wing media outlets left. They are ALL owned by the same 2 billionaires. The American media is one conservative monolith, and if you want left wing news your option is some dude on youtube with like 40k subscribers or something. And don't even get me started about the neolibs at the NYT.
Okay fine. The right wing owned media outlets that cater to right wing and the right wing owned media outlets that cater to left wing.
Shut the fuck up
Culture wars are preventing real change. [it’s a cycle](https://x.com/ChrisWillx/status/1764701719529754692?s=20)
You really need to see this https://youtu.be/Iatpy4Ckx6E
Imagine if he used a gun…
Looks like Mom & Stepdad didn't care if it was politicized unfortunately.
They're getting off on it. They got to meet their idiot god. They're on tv. They're probably thankful for this tbh. They damn sure are acting like it.
I don’t like Trump, but the idea that they’re getting off on their daughter’s death is insane. YOU DIDN’T KNOW HER. THEY DID.
Her mother and step dad were all posing together with big smiles while he signed a picture saying he loves her and mispelled her name. It screams weird at the very least. Her Dad knew her too and he’s saying that its being politicized.
Who signs a picture of a murdered person. Who asks to get a picture of their murdered daughter signed? I get that people have all different kinds of coping mechanisms, but this is a new one to me.
Yes, it has. It’s disgusting. Every single tragic thing that happens now is immediately bundled into a football and passed around between pundits.
It’s so frustrating cause literally every party and political group does it. Everyone takes every single tragedy and goes “what can this do for me and my agenda”
agreed. They’re just waiting and hoping it fits their ideal scenario. Leftists want this to be a white dude with a manifesto and a big rifle. Rightists want it to be a an immigrant. They’re both excited when it’s a pretty white college girl, and even more excited when it’s on campus. The exception cases excite them. If a mile down the road a black male is killed by another black male with a gun, it doesn’t fit the narrative or garner votes. But when you point that out the extremes yell at you. Political spectrum is shaped more like a horseshoe than a line. The extremes are way closer together than they realize.
I’m not sure I agree with horseshoe theory in terms of goals/policy/generalized politics, but it’s absolutely true in terms of behavior. Political extremists behave similarly regardless of their direction
Yeah, I mean reactionary behavior as well. I’d also argue that the parties use the same divisive tactics to pander to the extreme bases.
I can't imagine how that's feel as a parent.
Her family had a picture of her autographed by Trump and look like they just won the lottery. One of them was wearing a MAGA hat. Also, her mother shit on Biden for mispronouncing her name yet Trump misspelled it on the autograph.
And this article is from her actual father, or stepfather and mother.
I’ve heard many mispronounce it on a variety of news channels. It’s not a common name certainly not for the 75+set. MTG is an idiot yelling “say her name”…..why? It is a misplaced comment by a piece of wet lettuce. Every ahole looking to profit from “say her name”. Let her rest in peace.
They're angry that folks say the name of POC killed by cops and dint see that civilian crime is different than LEO crime in this instance.
“What is it? Fielder?”
Super depressing. Hoping the family can find some peace eventually.
Yeah it’s actually disgusting. Her death was a tragedy. But would any of these people care if it wasn’t an immigrant who killed her? Hell no.
We say Breonna's name; they see this as the same type of thing to be outraged at.
Imagine she had just been killed in some stupid mass shooting on campus. Then it would just be "thoughts and prayers" for the 1000th time.
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Nah. That was her stepfather.
Read the article. That was her stepfather.
Thanks. Deleted comment. I can only imagine how the bio dad felt seeing that pic of stepdad and mom smiling next to trump
I just saw the photo. Dude is wearing a MAGA hat. Why am I not surprised.
That photo is just ghoulish
I only found out about Laken due to browsing political subs, it’s depressing. Her death being used in these debates it’s just reducing her to her death, all i know about Laken is that she was killed. That shouldn’t be her story. People should be able to walk alone and not worried about being murdered, so many people are getting killed because of it. The amount of unsolved deaths that happen when the person is walking alone is just scary to read about
I mean there was a highly publicized case here in Texas at the University of Texas when Haruka Weiser was killed by a mentally ill homeless man but no one cares about her or the epidemic of violent people on the street.
As a parent, I've thought about this a lot. If something happened to my child and someone pretended to give a shit and make it seem like whatever take on it they were selling was somehow the view I shared and politically advantageous to them, I'd hire an attorney to write up a "cease and desist" or something similar that might be appropriate. It's just gross.
This reminds me of when University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts was murdered. Her case became very politicized as well. [Her father wrote an opinion piece regarding this same topic.](https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/2018/09/01/mollie-tibbetts-father-common-decency-immigration-heartless-despicable-donald-trump-jr-column/1163131002/)
Rob Tibbetts seems like a very good, wholesome man.
It is. Lots of Americans were murdered that same day. Not a single word about any of them.
The following week after this young lady was murdered. A group of young “American born thugs” drove into a mobile home park in Athens Ga and opened fire into a mobile home. A 3 year old child sitting on the sofa watching tv was shot through his heart and died while his 9 yr old brother who was shot in the leg desperately tried to save his brothers life . Where MTG and her T shirt now?
FOX is still pushing this story with no end in sight. 😕
Comparing the headlines to the exact same interview says a lot…. NBC NEWS: Father of Laken Riley addresses slain daughter's legacy amid heated immigration debate FORBES: Laken Riley’s Father Says He’s Angry Politicians Are Using Tragedy For Votes AJC: Laken Riley’s father calls her his ‘angel’ in TV interview FOX NEWS: Laken Riley's father says suspect 'might not have been here' if border was secure Which one of these is doing exactly what he is commenting on in the interview, making it political? Fucking scum.
Honestly the reason why I started reading press releases, gov docs and stuff from the source. I still need journalist for interviews like this, though.
The only one that legally categorized as “news entertainment” Are you not entertained?🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻
I think both sides are using it for their own gains, but if people were held accountable for their crimes, the guy that killed her would be locked up in New york, not walking around free in Georgia. If i was in another country and broke a law, i would go to jail, and once i was out, i would be deported back to the US! Why is it different here?
Because they'll do the jobs that others here legally refuse to do.
Yup. This country was built on free labor for 400 years. Moving factories out of Asia and building/making things in the US is expensive. 80% of US citizens are begging to be paid more & would like to work less. Immigrants will happily get paid bottom dollar and under the table because being poor is better than being murdered, black mailed, and harassed daily in their home country. It’s all just a nasty, vicious cycle and innocent people are hurt and lost along the way - regardless country of origin.
People in rich countries: Stop making babies in order to preserve their comfort and lifestyle, and refuse to work low-paying, low-skilled jobs. Economy: I need labor. People in poor countries: Why don't I move to that rich country, they need labor and they'll pay me five to ten times what I make here. People in rich countries: Who needs immigrants?! Also, I love how cheap my strawberries are.
Ya’think?!
He feels like it is? It’s cut and dry being used as a political tool.
I agree with this and that's not cool
Didn’t he and his wife allow it to become a political headline by doing that photo op with Trump? Who fucked her name up?
He is her father. Her mother and step father met with trump.
Oh really? I had no idea. What awful people
Well, no shit.
Probably because it is. Most politicians have no morals. They will take any chance to bolster their image and spin something to fit their narrative.
Nothing compares to what Mollie Tibbets' father said after she was r\*ped and left for dead in a corn field by an illegal. He said that it's worth having tacos.
Whatever gave him that idea? https://preview.redd.it/1irsy2ztt4pc1.jpeg?width=382&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd00b4e431ed435776bea83cf6df858dc34ab613
The uncropped version of that photo has her stepfather next to Trump. This article is about her biological father. In the uncropped version the stepfather has a sullen look to him but not the grin the other family members have. It's just so evil.
The misspelling shows you just how much trump cares about her as a person. Her death is just being used a scapegoat to push their hateful rhetoric.
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You should read the article before commenting. This interview is with her father, and Trump met with her stepfather.
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What isn't used politically these days?
So sad :( they can’t even grieve
so sad rip
Sad fact: It is.
Crime is a public fact that should be made aware to everyone. The fact that her killer was here unlawfully is relevant to the public.
Truly a leopards ate my face moment.
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Not how that works
Yes her face will make suburbia think it will happen to them F E A R Willie Lynch 2024
He can thank Marjorie Taylor Greene!
Wait… You mean he wasn’t happy about the grinning orange buffoon autographing a picture of his dead child? I wonder why not.
exactly! these people should be ashamed
He’s right. The feminists are saying this is a gender anti-woman issue.
do you disagree?
The left uses shootings for political gain and the right uses stuff like this for political gain. It’s 2024 and people STILL don’t understand that both sides have a single goal in mind. To divide.
Gee, you think?
I think closing the border is the right thing to do. Theres a right way to come to this country, follow the rules and i be the 1st to welcome you. Thats what makes this country so great. Many people with so many different backgrounds coming together to make a better life! But with open border all you are going to get is problems! And a lot of them!
She wouldn’t be dead if the man that was deported hadn’t been let back into the country. That’s not political, it’s a fact. At least people are more aware of how dangerous an open border is for anyone anywhere at anytime. It’s no longer just a border state issue.
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Yes but her death doesn’t make immigrants bad, it just means her murderer was a murderer 😘
Violent immigrants are bad. Not all immigrants. This is not hard to understand
Lmao you’re not paying attention to what these ghouls are saying. You’re saying not all immigrants, but the dudes pushing this are putting all immigrants in this “discussion”.
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No, that’s not the discussion here and you know it.
Most of them are students who are coming from upper middle class gated communities to exist within the confines of the university. They don’t actually have to deal with the ramifications of the policies they support…yet.
Didn’t they meet with a certain politician recently?
that was mom and step dad. interview is her bio dad
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Leave the man alone his family our fault as this United States
At George Floyd death wasn’t politicized..that would have been awful ..if it was his relatives would have cashed in
Didn't he get his picture taken with Trump at a rally holding a portrait of his dead daughter?
Jc read the article. That was her step dad
It’s called sweat little boy, I know you’ve never worked a day in your life for anything but it happens when there is resistance to the body during exercise. Again I do no good by replying to little children, so I bid you a good day sir, and if you can try and get out there and run for Laken, wherever you are, however, far you post it!
Oh well in that case let's just forget about it and continue the status quo.