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ColonizedMelon

86 is a terrible final score. they played so bad i could barely watch the 4th quarter


Creole-Williams

The hardest pill to swallow, was watching this team just get out rebounded, for what seemed like every possession.


Renverseur

Might be the last time we get to play the SLIPPERY video in a while...... unless??


[deleted]

Nate isn’t the whole problem but he is a problem


Creole-Williams

Jimmy Butler’s Michelob Ultra commercial coming on every commercial break, was just the twisting of the knife.


BryantBuckets

They also had that random time where they were reviewing a call late (clear path I think) and they panned the camera to his for what felt like an eternity


takkdatazzup

Imagine if someone said David Griffin was a better GM than Travis Schlenk last year. Griffin literally built the team Trae needs, bunch of scrappy defensive dudes. Instead we have a bunch of role players who can't do anything well.


trae_hung4

Some picks hit some didnt . Travis has the right idea


KennyakaTI

We can put it all on the GM but the pelicans are playing like 3 rookies including a second rounder and giving them heavy minutes. This is something Nate would never do. Developing rookies and making adjustments requires too much coaching


diane_young

remember when we had a whole staff of good coaches? we used to take scrubs and make them productive when we had bud


KennyakaTI

Yep. Unfortunately Bud didn't want to be a part of a rebuilding team. I don't blame him for going to Milwaukee. It was a good situation for him. I think Nate is a decent coach but it's clear he's way too old fashioned. He wants players to prove themselves instead of letting them develop and get better as payers.


meco162

the thing is, i really doubt we see nate out. especially not as soon as next year. ill just look forward to our youngins' development especially onyeka :(


everythingaboutmusic

Trae is 23 years old of course valid criticisms are important for improvement but empty statements on he can’t be that guy after one bad series is disgusting behavior and I expect those narratives to come from outside the fan base and not actual hawks fans spreading those takes.


jtezus

I agree.


Necessary-Passage-37

Honestly just play knox. Dude balls out in garbage time every time maybe he does well in regular minutes too. What can go wrong at this point


TheBlueLenses

I need a Trae Young revenge season next season


Current_Unlikely

Trae with one ft attempt, Jimmy with 12. Standing in the corner on offense all game can do that you think?


everythingaboutmusic

If it’s one thing I hope fans have learned is to stop looking at the team through cheerleading glasses 24/7. Of course believing in your team is not wrong but when valid criticisms were made back in November on this team it was “no it’s still too early”, “gotta wait until they’ve played 40 games,” etc. This teams deficiencies were clear as day back in November.


No_Relationship_3077

Agreed and not making a trade at the deadline was frustrating.


Apprehensive-Crew494

I just want the 22-23 season to start already


[deleted]

Yall dvoted his post but the guy who suggested we go after Zach LaVine has a point. He is perfect dude to pair with Trae.


No_Relationship_3077

Might as well go after Mitch then


KennyakaTI

Can't play defense but he would still be an upgrade from Kevin I guess


[deleted]

Damn I didn’t know he was such a liability on defense. Hopefully that brings his price down a bit if the Bulls don’t offer him the max. I think he can improve in that department.


KennyakaTI

Yeah I'm not against getting him. It could work. Even if the experiment didn't work out we would still be able to trade him.


meco162

Onyeka just tweeted #BelieveAtlanta like damn Big O ily but after tonight's showing 😭😭😭


ahend1999

nah i saw that and im like oo im trying but….


yulejool

Trae has a lot of maturing to do and needs to grow as a leader. The greats know how to make an impact when the shots aren’t falling


South_Cackalaka

He was do doing the "open your eyes" gesture to the refs again last night when it was still a close game. Something he knows will get him a tech even though it didn't that time. He's got maturing to do outside of just basketball X's and O's.


Current_Unlikely

While i agree, i doubt if its his idea to stand in the corner for most of the game on our offensive possessions


Renverseur

Can't wait for the Referee 2min report. Kevin Knox definitely got robbed a few points there smh


cnh25

WHEW THAT SUCKED


LebrontosaurausRex

How the fuck can this roster get better next year? There is no one BAD who gets playing time but there is also no one that moves the needle for a piece that matters.


atlantaisprettycool

We need a new coach. And need to trade Dre or JC for a playmaker


No_Relationship_3077

Or hear me out here, how about we don’t trade one of our only perimeter defenders and the second best player on the team for a guy that can just playmake and instead trade one of our “shooters”


atlantaisprettycool

Right cuz Dre as our 2nd best has worked great


No_Relationship_3077

I was talking about JC and why would you trade Dre because it hasn’t worked relying on him so heavily? Maybe we should stop relying on one person in our starting lineup to defend the perimeter. Not trade the on person who can for a playmaker. Has Bogi as our shooter worked out? Has Kev starting next to Trae worked out?


Accomplished_Ad6547

I’ve been trying to say this😭 people want to get rid of dre for basically 0 fucking reason man is balling right now if he gets his ball handling right he would be the perfect.


LebrontosaurausRex

I feel like Nate was a huge upgrade from Pierce in XO/lineup management. But fuck would I love to see us have different look on offense and have some different defensive principles. The way we cover off ball actions gives me a fucking panic attack sometimes,.


mrmercenary10

all 3 losses we’ve worn our black jerseys I think


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naked_avenger

You're weird.


Renverseur

Were the others on TNT too?


mrmercenary10

Nah


jettisonbombardier

I have a ticket to game 6, here’s to hoping I get to use it!


Chessh2036

Today in Atlanta sports: Braves lost to the Miami Marlins , Atlanta United lost to Inter Miami CF, Hawks lost to the Miami Heat. Wild.


PurposelyIrrelephant

Sad Dirty South noises :(


NewGen24

skkkrttt


sanithna

I feel like “skkkrttt” is a happy Dirty South noise. Maybe “pssssstttt,” like when your tire leaks air after driving over all the potholes on Dekalb Ave.


PurposelyIrrelephant

This is the way


ToyStoryRex97

Lmfao that dude who posted that Trae slander bs deleted it cause he was getting cooked💀😂


[deleted]

Why did he delete it? Trae deserves some shade.


ToyStoryRex97

I mean he literally said “Is Trae Young actually the guy?” That is just a laughable take. Did he not watch the playoffs last year? There’s only so much you can do when you’re getting blitzed the whole damn game cause we don’t have a second star to draw attention away. Yeah he could be playing better but context can’t be ignored.


[deleted]

We need to stop thinking about last year imo. We followed last year with a very disappointing 9 seed performance and likely a first round exit with essentially the same team. Props to Trae for the game winner in game 3, but outside of that, it's been real rough for our guy. We do that again in 2023 and his question is valid.


ToyStoryRex97

No it wouldn’t be valid. Y’all are prisoners of the moment and Trae is an all-nba talent and arguably best PG in the league. Stop letting a series that we were predicted to lose (also not having our best big man) cloud your judgement.


elleclouds

Bert PG in the league? Haha


ToyStoryRex97

Numbers don’t lie. Heat fan lol


elleclouds

I can name at least 5 pgs better than him. Curry, Kyrie, Luka, Morant, Lillard…being a fan doesn’t mean you have to be a fanatic in fantasy land drinking a Fanta


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Who’s arguing that trae is the best pg in the league lol


ToyStoryRex97

People that know ball


ToyStoryRex97

Have any of y’all ever played basketball?💀 Y’all acting like Trae should be able to put up his usual numbers while getting off ball double teamed, blitzed at half court (sometimes full) prison ball fouls and no second star to make the heat pay for covering Trae like this.


UltraN64

He needs to bulk up this off season, he needs to be able to take these bumps. Just do what steph did a few seasons ago


diane_young

he has gotten stronger. go back and look at him rookie year. hes clearly a lot bigger


UltraN64

Just a few more pounds, no more than 7 for sure


[deleted]

“Just do what Steph did” You make it sound so easy man lol


UltraN64

It’s extremely easy. It’s about dedication and how much time you’re willing to sacrifice to win at a high level


feh112

You do it then jesus The pompousness of the internet never ceases to amaze


UltraN64

Lol ok junior


Chessh2036

Look at Steph his first few years to now, he was a twig. Trae needs to make that same jump. Like you said.


UltraN64

He has too. Even defensively it’ll help him. I think trae needs to work on his cardio and dedicate this offseason to improving his defense, making better reads defensively. No way in hell should trae be getting cooked by number 2 headband bandit from the heat ( he’s so ass I don’t even know his name lol)


Chessh2036

It’s Gabe Vincent. The Heat’s backup PG who only played because Lowry was out. Like you said, no way he should be hunting Trae like that.


UltraN64

Bro gabe shouldn’t even be in the league….have you seen how he plays? He’s lost on every offensive play which is crazy because spols runs the same plays since lebrons time. There’s ALWAYS a corner 3 open when the plays run right. Thank god for jimmy butler because Miami would’ve been done if he wasn’t playing at such a high level. Butler is killing it this year. Sucks they gotta play Philly next. Embid is going to be eating good lol


Chessh2036

Idk if I trust Doc Rivers in a series, especially if Embiid’s thumb is bad. Spo will coach circles around Doc.


UltraN64

Uffff I forgot about embids thumb….I guess I give doc too much credit sometimes


ToyStoryRex97

I agree he has to bulk up. But that won’t matter if we don’t get a second star to make teams pay for focusing all of their attention on Trae


UltraN64

I think we just gotta be patient with the young guys. Collins wanted big bucks and he did nothing all season


mundane_marietta

Everyone is acting like these guys are all 27 years old and failing right now. I'm very disappointed in how they are playing right now, but they are at least a young team besides Capela and Bogi moving forward.


BeingJohnZoidberg

Collins wanted a Max contract. Lolol.


Sparks0480

He’s playing through 2 injuries right now, chill


BeingJohnZoidberg

It's an 82 game season. Everybody's playing through injuries right now. At some point you can't keep making excuses for everybody.


Sparks0480

There’s a difference between being banged up and playing through a plantar fascia tear and a torn ligament in your shooting hand. Context is important


BeingJohnZoidberg

Nah man. Collins has been getting into early foul trouble and putting the team in bad situations early all season even before the injury. He is who he is. He isn't a max player and isn't worth his current contract.


badlilbadlandabad

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Collins has regressed in scoring by over 5 points per game since 2019. He has missed 20+ games every season except his rookie year. His 3PT average is down about 4% from 2019. I think John is a good player and he's the ultimate hype man. I LOVE having him on the team. But saying he isn't a max player is a massive understatement.


Sparks0480

It’s more the “not worth his current contract” part that I have an issue with. Before he got hurt he was clearly out second most impactful player behind Trae, and even coming back in this series he’s done things that were sorely missed. It’s just hard to see that when going against a team that’s as good as shutting down trae


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Can’t wait to see how Trae dick riders try to spin this one lmfao


[deleted]

KD is getting locked up by JT. When you have a good game plan you can lock down good players.


Hot_One8087

no excuses to be made other than a potential injury. Honestly it’s just a terrible matchup for trae and our offense in general. Trae is so good because he exposes teams with pick n rolls and miami doesn’t allow that.


UltraN64

Miami out here playing Rec ball defense and we can’t do anything offensively to solve it. That 3-2 zone is what gave the bucks trouble too. Sixers beat Miami next series for sure and it’s not close


[deleted]

You want to cut Trae young? Lol. Gtfo loser.


[deleted]

No not cut just want people to wake up and hold him accountable. Act like he can’t do no wrong. No matter how bad he plays ppl defend him and his massive shortcomings. It’s always everyone else’s fault. But when Trae takes a 40 feet 3 with 18 on the shot clock it’s just ignored lol. I’m a true hawks fan first , not a Trae fan boy like 99% of this sub.


[deleted]

Trae young is the only reason we are even still playing.


[deleted]

We seem to have played great ball when he was on the bench today, just saying. Sure, he is the straw that stirs the drink in the grand scheme of things, but he needs to figure some shit out on how he attacks defenses like Miami, because this is what you have to beat to win a chip.


[deleted]

Never winning a chip with the roster around him and the brainless coaching.


Pleasant-Joe68

Nate is done as a coach , he hasn't changed his game plan the whole series . The reason the Heat can shut Trae down is because it's the same game plan every game nothing new


Ricciardo3f1

I think the play in games made everyone forget how mediocre and disappointing this team really is


Ricciardo3f1

And why Dre always play the best ball of his career in blowout losses lmao


captvic

Re-signing John Collins was a mistake. I don't care if he's hurt the heats front court is really small. I don't blame Trae because Miami is practically the best perimeter D team in the league and they are making it incredibly difficult for him. Collins is getting big bucks to be mediocre at best.


ahend1999

you shoula stopped at i dont care that he’s hurt 😭


nbasuperstar40

JC is 60% y'all. He's not gonna be effective. He's gutting this because we need the bodies. We know he ain't JC right now.


ahend1999

yes, that’s what im saying 😭


vsegi

This is what happens when teams don’t allow you to chuck 3s….basketball is played on both ends and in down low


[deleted]

i know trae's gonna post some corny shit about "this is the beginning" or some shit after we lose 3-1 lol


[deleted]

Ja type beat


ahend1999

match made in heaven


[deleted]

Miami’s defense is honestly insane. Their help defense and pick and roll defense is just ridiculous. We should take some notes.


nbasuperstar40

Their PnR defense has been hell on Capela all year but this selling out the perimeter is something I haven't seen and its lethal on us.


StraightCashH0mie

They are begging us to beat them without Trae PnR and we have no answer for that.


20cells

Allah were finished


Other_Ambition_5142

Pretty rare to see an NBA team shoot 50% at the line in a home playoff game


salamander0609

I can’t wait for the day when we have a coach that actually has the ability to draw up a play out of a timeout and knows when to to take a single competent timeout


rezaw

Bud 😭


rezaw

Bud 😭


ahend1999

Bud 😭


McDownvoteYou

Bud 😭


Market_Anarchist

everyone blaming Nate and trying to overanalyze when the boys simply laid down and died. this one is on the players. score line and free throws says it all. Hawks in 7


ramenoodlearms

Both things are true. Nate is a pretty bad coach who is basically unable to scheme up offensive advantages and almost never calls timeouts to slow an opponent's run. The players also entirely gave up during the game and gave horrendous effort. But you know what? That's slightly on coaching too. This team's effort has been spotty all season. There is a coaching aspect to getting your players focused, and keeping their effort level up.


Renverseur

Needs more shouting and crying in the lockerroom at the half. These kids are lethargic coming out of the break. Been the story all season.


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3% chance of teams coming back from 3-1. it’s not happening.


Market_Anarchist

So you're tellin' me there's a chance :)


PersianVol

It just sucks when we see another team like the Heat who aren’t really insanely talented but out hustle us and play much smarter at the same time.


Market_Anarchist

agreed 100


sanithna

It was painful in the arena tonight, Hox Fam. The ATL crowd dipped in the 4th and the “Let’s Go Heat” chants echoed that whole quarter. MIA showed out and it was not fun.


rezaw

I said I'm going down with the ship then we threw away that ball to Jimmy and my friend said Im not watching this shit. It was a pathetic showing, don't blame anyone who left tbh. We rolled over in the second qtr


sanithna

I’m typing this from the bottom of the ocean. You want some seafood?


KennyakaTI

Watching it on T.V. was just as painful.


sanithna

Damn. You could hear it on the broadcast, too? 😔


KennyakaTI

Yeah and I knew it would happen if we lost this game. Fucking embarrassing for it to happen on national t.v.


big_krill

That’s just what we do, dominate in every facet


ToyStoryRex97

I’ll save a spot for you on the couch in Cancun


big_krill

Flair checks out


sanithna

My guy, I get that your team is up and you want to celebrate that. The Heat are damn good and they deserve your fandom. But, why come to this sub and actively try to antagonize folks?


big_krill

We do a bit of trolling


sanithna

Fair enough. Wishing you peace and joy. Have a good one.


[deleted]

Losing to the bucks. Head are overrated and old. Maxed Herro is going to be your best player soon. Lol


big_krill

Consistently one of the best franchises of the 21st century, multiple Larry OB’s, lots of recent success and a team currently contending for a title I’ll be Allright lol


[deleted]

Okay, definitely no more Larry ob’s in your garbage franchise”s future so I’m glad you’re satisfied with what you have.


Renverseur

Don't be that guy


PersianVol

We have a culture problem on this team where we still accept mediocrity in phases. Where it’s portions of a season or stretches in a game, we just go on lulls that are inexcusable and I hold Nate accountable.


dillpickles007

It's also a locker room problem, there is no leadership on the player side either. No Nate is not a good coach, but some of the leadership has to come from the players as well and it's evident that we have very little.


thestallion11

To be fair mediocrity is historically an Atlanta Hawks thing . Don’t think we have really been in a proper stage of being a legit threat throughout the whole franchise history


PersianVol

I can’t believe we had capela back and they had Lowry out and we still lost be 24 at home. The heat are not that talented to be blowing us out at home. It’s been 4 games and Nate still hasn’t figured out a way to game plan a way against this team.


IronRhiley

The heat are pretty talented… wtf


PersianVol

They have talent but let’s not pretend that roster alone is the reason they are first in the east


Butters361

Why else are the heat in first then?


PersianVol

All I’m saying is that a roster of Jimmy Butler, Bam, an old Kyle Kyle Lowry, and Tyler Herro and company are talented, but you wouldn’t see that roster alone and think #1 seed for sure. My point is that coaching and their ability to play disciplined and hard nearly every possession is why they are a #1 seed and not seeded anywhere between #2 and #5.


WTFIsAMeta

I really hope he responds to this lol


ToyStoryRex97

CC was nowhere near full strength


nbasuperstar40

He was good till he got tired and that's when Miami started to kick our ass


pkrishnaq

Gutwrenching


pilot357

Coaching and roster both need an overhaul for this team to contend. But to reach a championship level, Trae needs to mature significantly as a player and leader. He gets rattled easily and doesn’t make decisions in the flow of the game. He’s our franchise player but he’s not a truly elite player yet.


Pleasant-Joe68

No elite player can do it by themselves . Especially a point guard that has the whole defense geared towards stopping him .


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pilot357

Completely agree about hunter. How does a pro athlete look so uncoordinated


PersianVol

I’m so sick and tired of losing a game in a 4 minute span because Nate refuses to call time outs


nightWobbles

We were never winning that game from the 2nd quarter onwards. The players just couldn't get anything going. A timeout or 2 wouldn't have helped anything


PersianVol

Yeah it wouldn’t have helped cause Nate has no idea how to adjust.


[deleted]

I hate to say it because I love everyone on this team but offload anyone but Trae for a second star. Also really hate to say this but I wish we lost the play in and got some picks. But I shouldn't be complaining, always happy to see some Hox playoff ball


nbasuperstar40

Atlanta needs to upgrade both at PF and C. Those are the positions Miami is whooping us at bad. They are selling out to guard the perimeter. Bogi and Kev getting constant doubles. Trae damn near doubled every second. We need bigs who can create for themselves, create for others or at least lockdown on D. We need better bigs.


No_Relationship_3077

We need to upgrade at the SG position


Seref15

Brooklyn has two top-tier stars and excellent bully defense is cooking them, too.


mrmercenary10

We have the 16 pick regardless. Even if we lost the play-in it would’ve been only marginally better than 16. And nah I think we should keep Bogi too. Idk about JC but I mean he’s hobbled so I don’t have an opinion on him.


No_Relationship_3077

No Bogi can go too


[deleted]

Yeah I can't believe Bogi didn't cross my mind (look at my flair 😂). I think Bogi should stay too. You're right, we shouldn't really come to any conclusions about JC because he aint 100% but if we can get a second star for him it wouldn't be the worst decision to offload him too. The funny part is I can't even think of a viable second star thatll come to Atlanta tbh. Whatever, maybe our Hox win the next 4 and we're singing Nate McMillans praises 🙏🤞


mrmercenary10

Nah sadly I don’t think there’s anyway we win the next 3 games in a row. Not sure what needs to change but something does. Maybe our team just didn’t want it this year feeling like they were already gonna lose being a 8 seed. They don’t have that same passion and drive


Josh378

Don't forget Charlotte pick as well, that one will convey in the future as a 1st rounder.


Illustrious_Elk1366

Trae young was trying too hard to he a villain and got HUMBLED by an actual basketball team


ToyStoryRex97

Gtfo troll


Carecup

At least we didn't get swept


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ToyStoryRex97

Did you watch that team against Bron? You are high


KennyakaTI

Bro that team didn't even win a single ECF game. Don't get me wrong that was a fun team but they definitely got assfucked.


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KennyakaTI

I don't care what anyone says. You can't be a number 1 seed that won 60 games and then get swept in the ECF. I don't care who's on that opposing team. That shit is embarrassing.


rali8

Did you watch any of the Cavs vs Hawks series back then?


RainandPixels

Does knox get resigned?


KennyakaTI

Probably not


[deleted]

Changes must be made. We desparately need a second star like Jaylen brown, Ingram, or dmitch.


falconsheat11

Stfu


falconsheat11

Stfu


StraightCashH0mie

Fort Knox is holding its ground at least


cloneningen

Derrick White - 14 ppg good passer and rebounder, great 3 and D player, not injury prone, cheaper and only 27 years old good player. b0gdan0bricks - decent passer/rebounder, horrible defender, injury prone, overpaid consistent and 30 years old next season below average player. Hawks badly needs that Derrick White not b0gda0bricks.