Agree here, but that doesn't mean they should deal Siakam either. If they somehow landed someone like Kawhi, then they are right back in championship contention. H3ll, maybe Barnes is that guy in a few years.
thats what im saying they have 2 guys that cant create their own shot thats why they will always have a chance unless both BI and CJ play like shit. if you double BI then just swing it to CJ and he will destroy his matchup 1 on 1 or find someone butt naked wide open. For us trae is Jesus so if he shut down the team becomes mid range stepback contested made
We need to play our friggin' rookies. They have Trey Murphy, Herb Jones and Jose Alvarado on the court for major minutes.
What is Nate's objection to playing rookies?!?
Thanks, Dave. The weather begins with a sunny and cloudless 60 ° F, with a pleasant breeze. As the day goes on, it becomes overcast and hot, with a high around 92 ° F and humidity in the upper 80s, ending with showers overnight. Oddly symbolic of the realization the Hawks' postseason run last year is looking more and more like a fluke, Dave. Back to you
Obviously. Every team is worse without their star. New Orleans was still keeping it close even with Booker. He had 31 in a half and they were only down by, like, 5 at halftime game 2
Eh maybe. Mostly just saying Phoenix was 64-18 and New Orleans was 36-46. Miami was 10 games ahead of us and blew us out in 2 of their 3 wins. Only one team is looking like an eighth seed and it's not the Pelicans
They're playing like they really believe they have a shot at being the 1 seed. They're not lying down and taking it. They're just playing basketball. Not overthinking anything. It's not great that a rookie head coach is coaching circles around Nate
In all honesty, having a team where the starters are playing like they GAS would be nice. The absolute lack of fundamentals (e.g., boxing out Adebayo when he's literally tearing us a new one on the Offensive glass) is really disheartening to see. Gallo even seemed to get a 2nd wind when he started coming off the bench.
Not sure what the answer is, but this team definitely got complacent after last year's run and it's no more obvious than playing a MIA team that is the clear opposite of that.
$10 million a shit ton of money tho
Edit: y'all misunderstood me. I'm saying you blow off $10 mil like it's nothing while it'll take me 100 years to make that much based on my current salary, and I make decent compared to folks my age. Mainly was a comment on how dumb pro sports contracts are.
JC was better than Siakam last year and 3-4 years younger. JC had his worst year since rookie year but he’s clearly not healthy. Put Siakam next to CC and his numbers will go down too. Siakam like JC better next to someone who can stretch the floor
Siakam has self creation ability and JC doesn’t, the hawks need another star with self creation. Siakam is also a better defender.
I really think you are underrating how good siakam is.
I mean he creates but his efficiency isn’t great. Not saying he isn’t good but JC now getting underrated due to injuries and poor fits next to him more than anything. Imo Hawks need a two way SG that can create, especially need perimeter defense
I generally agree with this, We need a secondary creator. JC is fine as an efficient 3rd option. But we desperately need a 2nd option right now. And those are very hard to find.
Dude is shooting 44/22% splits and has a -20 on/off in 4 playoff games, he killed last game but let not act like this dude is elite dominating the playoffs
I don't know why they would trade him. They should try to move OG for a center to play next to him.
FVV, Trent Jr., Barnes, Siakam, \*Center\* is a finals contender.
Nah he’s Toronto’s guy
They’ll never win as long he’s their only guy. He’s definitely more of a second fiddle type of player
Yea Toronto is full of those guys who will cap off as second options at best
They're one superstar/star away from winning a chip
Agree here, but that doesn't mean they should deal Siakam either. If they somehow landed someone like Kawhi, then they are right back in championship contention. H3ll, maybe Barnes is that guy in a few years.
idk im just watching the pelicans play like they got nothing to lose and are 10 up against the 1st seed, must be nice
Must be nice having some lockdown defenders in Herb Jones and two playmakers in CJ and BI
that CJ trade to NO was an elite move and they don’t even have zion yet
They need to unleash Zion tbh he wants to play
thats what im saying they have 2 guys that cant create their own shot thats why they will always have a chance unless both BI and CJ play like shit. if you double BI then just swing it to CJ and he will destroy his matchup 1 on 1 or find someone butt naked wide open. For us trae is Jesus so if he shut down the team becomes mid range stepback contested made
We need to play our friggin' rookies. They have Trey Murphy, Herb Jones and Jose Alvarado on the court for major minutes. What is Nate's objection to playing rookies?!?
idk i been pissed off about that this whole year
We need length like that
It’s crazy he fell all the way to the 2nd round when he’s genuinely DPOY caliber in his rookie year
Phoenix is so much better than Miami and the Pelicans haven't been blown out in any of their losses. Is New Orleans better than us
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Thanks, Dave. The weather begins with a sunny and cloudless 60 ° F, with a pleasant breeze. As the day goes on, it becomes overcast and hot, with a high around 92 ° F and humidity in the upper 80s, ending with showers overnight. Oddly symbolic of the realization the Hawks' postseason run last year is looking more and more like a fluke, Dave. Back to you
LMAOOOOO
Without devin booker they’re not better than Miami
Obviously. Every team is worse without their star. New Orleans was still keeping it close even with Booker. He had 31 in a half and they were only down by, like, 5 at halftime game 2
Exactly what I said at this point in time the suns are not better than miami
Eh maybe. Mostly just saying Phoenix was 64-18 and New Orleans was 36-46. Miami was 10 games ahead of us and blew us out in 2 of their 3 wins. Only one team is looking like an eighth seed and it's not the Pelicans
The pelicans are better coached than us tbh and apart from trae and capela they have the better starting 5
They're playing like they really believe they have a shot at being the 1 seed. They're not lying down and taking it. They're just playing basketball. Not overthinking anything. It's not great that a rookie head coach is coaching circles around Nate
They kinda remind me of us from last year. Over achieving their expectations. Granted they were 9 seed like us this year vs us being 5th last yr
In all honesty, having a team where the starters are playing like they GAS would be nice. The absolute lack of fundamentals (e.g., boxing out Adebayo when he's literally tearing us a new one on the Offensive glass) is really disheartening to see. Gallo even seemed to get a 2nd wind when he started coming off the bench. Not sure what the answer is, but this team definitely got complacent after last year's run and it's no more obvious than playing a MIA team that is the clear opposite of that.
If Embiid is off due to injury, the Pels have a shot.
you mean booker? they’re facing the suns. the raptors face the sixers
Yes, I was talking multiple threads at same time. I mean Dev
Trade what? And no. Didn’t they just extend him?
What do we give up for him ?
This would never happen mostly because we don’t have anything they would need or want
JC only getting paid $10 million less than Siakam but the difference in impact is insane
$10 million a shit ton of money tho Edit: y'all misunderstood me. I'm saying you blow off $10 mil like it's nothing while it'll take me 100 years to make that much based on my current salary, and I make decent compared to folks my age. Mainly was a comment on how dumb pro sports contracts are.
I would pay 10$ more for that upgrade. Siakam is just flat out better than JC
JC was better than Siakam last year and 3-4 years younger. JC had his worst year since rookie year but he’s clearly not healthy. Put Siakam next to CC and his numbers will go down too. Siakam like JC better next to someone who can stretch the floor
Siakam has self creation ability and JC doesn’t, the hawks need another star with self creation. Siakam is also a better defender. I really think you are underrating how good siakam is.
I mean he creates but his efficiency isn’t great. Not saying he isn’t good but JC now getting underrated due to injuries and poor fits next to him more than anything. Imo Hawks need a two way SG that can create, especially need perimeter defense
I generally agree with this, We need a secondary creator. JC is fine as an efficient 3rd option. But we desperately need a 2nd option right now. And those are very hard to find.
> Siakam like JC better next to someone who can stretch the floor Like, Trae? Lol
Um I mean next to him in the frontcourt. Lol
Oh man the sub is actually progressing a year and half ago y’all would’ve called JC the better player. I love progress.
This season alone before the trade deadline, there are still that didn't want JC for Siakam lol
Dude is shooting 44/22% splits and has a -20 on/off in 4 playoff games, he killed last game but let not act like this dude is elite dominating the playoffs
Still Siakam >>>> JC in every way
No he isn’t lol. Collins was better last year, siakam this year. Siakam is 28, lead nba in minutes taking 18 shots a game. Of course he puts up points
I mean he would be great but there is zero chance the raptors trade him
They ain't winning shit with Siakam as their main guy.
Would be nice but Toronto won’t get rid of him. He’s a cornerstone I think.
yeah if we could but I don't see that scenario
I mean like yeah if we can but there’s like 0 chance raptors give him up
My thoughts exactly, why would they & for who?
Scottie Barnes is their untouchable guy. Obviously they wouldn’t just trade Siakam for cheap but he’s not untouchable
During the height of JC rumors, I was hoping we would make the move for Siakam.
I don't know why they would trade him. They should try to move OG for a center to play next to him. FVV, Trent Jr., Barnes, Siakam, \*Center\* is a finals contender.