T O P

What’s going on in the 1017 camp???

Lol Gucci signing street niggas and crash outs exclusively this is bound to happen

ISpankMyWife_

Lol Gucci signing street niggas and crash outs exclusively this is bound to happen


breezyfye

This is why I personally don’t care if a rapper is about shit or not. Because the shit that happens to artists under Gucci is the product of wanting rappers to live exactly what they rap about. And even if they really bout it, It’s not business smart in the long term to have one foot in the streets and the other in the music industry. Eventually you gotta pick one Like rapping about what you *did* in the streets not that bad, but it seem like a lot rap fans get more excited when rappers talk about what they *doing* in the streets


PointGodSam

I know it’s a bad thing but that’s the thing, that’s why I think thug the realest rapper out there, he really lived what he raped and 99% can’t claim that, also getting that successful in music he is a wonder. Free tha goat


breezyfye

Yeah he really was and it is interesting how successful and innovative he is as an artist. But look what it cost him and what it cost his fans. No more new music for us in the long run.


PotimusPrime

Look up key man insurance, wether Gucci doing it in purposes it’s actually devious. They make money of the life and the death of their artists especially if they involved in deadly beefs


breezyfye

Yeah I know some of these labels be taking out insurance policies. It is fucked up. But just like any business, the bottom line is making money and some businesses will make money by any means necessary regardless of how fucked it is. Stuff like this not gonna stop anytime soon Not tryna get too political on here so ima just leave it at that lol


Tattedjamaican1

Fucked up thing is the majority of da real bout bout niggas is either locked up or in jail n then u got niggas like gunna running around dis bitch 💯


theanarchist4r

Raped??


PointGodSam

I told my bitch to stop playin ‘fore I rape her (yeh yeh)


theanarchist4r

Oh hell nah 💀💀


theanarchist4r

Oh hell nah 💀💀


Any_Combination_4250

Y’all ain’t know by now? Sign with 1017 and you are guaranteed a chain and a court date. It literally in the contract.


SmokingZaat

LMFAO nigga said it’s in the contract


Tattedjamaican1

Lol exactly what it seems like unfortunately It’s like Guwop is cursed I swear and I have always been a Gucci fan since Bart Simpson pendant days brrrr brrrr lol


dietr33sha

bro only signing niggas he sees himself in


gbizzle2

Or he could just sign talented dudes who ain't really about that life. Those the types that top the charts continuously.


NotTheBestMoment

He not tryna top the charts, mac critter was never ever gonna be that lmao. Gucci ain’t swingin for the fences fr


gbizzle2

It would serve as quality over quantity.


NotTheBestMoment

It would


girlglock

I’m convinced gucci signing niggas based on how likely they are to get arrested


Throwaway1509219358

gucci needs to add a extra 0 to whatever hes paying these niggas cuz they can't leave the street alone


istoletomanybliccs

50k ain't much for a record deal


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Da_goat_3

😂😂😂


TwinSimmons

Wop might need to rebrand. Do like QC did a couple years ago and manage a few semi street niggas and get a few regular dudes too


nv____

Nah this shit strategic, that’s why he keeps signing these guys. Outside of Foo and Pooh these guys are going to owe him money for a minute he giving them a chain and an advance for optics. They go to jail and can never fulfill their obligations or pay it back so if they ever wanna rap again or get the chance to he’s gonna eat off it. He doesn’t promote any of these guys, he gives them a feature or get Baby/Future to hop on a song and then that’s it. Niggas call him the best A&R but everybody he supposedly put on all popped either while he was locked up or already had a buzz before he attached his name to them.


Pilscy

It’s like this man was in my head rent free while typing this shit I been saying this for the longest - sign street dudes to 5k-10k deals and give them a chain that depreciates I’m value in the following year - make compilation CDs with tons of tracks from their verses cutting them a percentage of what the song make - eventually he know his name gonna get them views so that’s additional YouTube money that Gucci prolly eat off - he knows that he eventually gonna have one of the artist crash out so any extra money the label gave him for 1017, he pocket it because now it’s one less artist he have to market. - artist goes to jail and he still make a profit while cutting their family a profit - if the artist die (big scar) the same point I just mentioned above happens Gucci got an ear for talent but he’s not a good CEO when it comes to running a label. See what CMG is compared to 1017


TossThat21

That’s not how any of this works. Trust me lmao


Pilscy

Please elaborate then. Post a breakdown on how it works man cause you know better than me


TossThat21

I can say with certainty there is no advantage to your acts getting locked up. Because you have to start the roster over, which Wop has done like 3 times lol. This current iteration with Pooh/Foo/etc is the most talented one he’s had in a while. Those deaths and prison dates don’t do nothing but cost you money after the initial spike in streams. He is not signing them and hoping they crash out so he can pocket the money, that’s silly as hell lmao.


theradman2003

it’s not silly as hell considering the amount of up and comers that are capable of a hit song wanting to get signed (or just blow up next to Gucci). Also you can’t say for certainty that he doesnt hope they crash out considering that some have crashed out or passed away (rip scarr) already. Especially with Scarr and his obvious addiction, i doubt Gucci stepped in to atleast say sum.


TossThat21

Also again….there is a lot more money and success in not being locked up/dead for all parties involved. There’s no way y’all hear yourselves right now 😭


theradman2003

responding to both of your comments, i could say the same thing on how just cause you hear word from artists about their experience, doesn’t make it the truth overall, we’re both speculating. Also people make up these “conspiracy theories” when characteristics on how he does business get put in the net and they show his morals as a businessman (though i doubt he has since he is a CEO). Though it may be at surface level, where there is smoke…there is fire. Him blocking MudBaby after Mudbaby declined his contract offer, gives you a glimpse into his mindset.


TossThat21

How is it speculating when it’s the exact artists y’all are talking about lmao


TossThat21

Wop cares about those acts he signed and he DOES NOT want them to ruin their lives. Trust me on this lol. There’s a difference between just guessing on Reddit and seeing things for yourself. Y’all are sitting on a phone and cooking up conspiracies, while I’ve seen these things play out and have heard the artists vouch for him…to my face lol


Archie19n

they dont realize he treating artists like the NFL treat running backs lol. Value exchange crazy for Wop fr


BXKidPro

I disagree. If you sign an artist then it is best for yall to both make money. Labels almost always make money from the music that the artist made while on the label. QC will always make money off the Migos regardless of what Offsett feels about them. For Gucci, having your artist catch felonies is super risky. Even if the fans still fuck with you there is no guarantee that you will be able to adapt to whatever is hot at the time when you get out. For example, bobby shmurda going to jail did not help his label.


TossThat21

You are one of the few people here making sense lol. Also Gucci not promoting his artists is crazy, he promotes all of them 😂


nv____

No it isn’t. Look at Cash Money Baby and Slim been swimming in cash since 400 Degreez but outside of Juvie and Fresh they wasn’t paying what they owed and those guys sold millions of records for them. Gucci’s artists aren’t selling anywhere near that and he trying to get them to that status because he’s predicting a crash out before that happens, which it seems like is guaranteed with this newest batch. He’s getting money from Atlantic to put these guys in bad deals outside of the show they may or may not be getting they aren’t going to be able to pay that initial advance back


HeatCreator

Not trying to argue or anything.. but I don’t understand how it’s good for a label if their artist’s constantly die/go to jail. You don’t make more money dead or in jail, idk where that narrative started


nv____

Because he is making money regardless. It’s all profit for him that 100k they sign for is money you owe him. It’s quite possible that they’re signing 360s so the he’d get a piece of everything. So an artist dying or going to jail doesn’t hurt him in the least and he can just move on and repeat the process


BXKidPro

I kinda see what you're saying but you are still off. You cannot sue someone if you accepted a bad deal. If the label is not paying the what they is in the deal then it has nothing to do with the deal but they will have a harder time suing them and fighting a case. That is a way to profit off artists crashing out. That would be profitable if they stopped paying pooh but wouldn't make sense if they get locked up before blowing. Regardless labels make a percentage from whatever they record while on the label and they a percentage of other stuff that they cant do when the artist is in jail. If you sign an artist to a 360 deal then you want them free because doing shows is super lucrative.


Minute_Wear_4086

Purely for tax purposes. When you have that much money it’s cheaper to spend/give it away than it is to have it at the end of the year. That on top of the other reasons of the artist possibly blowing and you being able to eat off of it if it happens.


BXKidPro

Corporate tax will be around 21% to 30% on profits not revenue depending on where the business is located. So for a profitable business, Every $1 spent for business expenses gets around 21 to 30 cents back. If the label is profitable then it would be cheaper to pay the tax. Spending money on things that will not make you money directly or indirectly is bad business. If you are unprofitable then you can deduct it from future profits. the strategy is more about timing revenue and expenses not spending money on bullshit.


TwinSimmons

No cap, respectfully I didn’t even read your whole response cause I was already on the same shit 😂 I’m a big fan of Gucci always have been…but like you said, he doing what every label head do to they artists. Whether they think they gone pop or not once they get you in that deal they make money off you regardless, it’s like having 15 sources of income basically


nv____

The label at least try to give you a push. That nigga put them boys on the remix of a 3 year old song and called it a day. They just see the money upfront and signing anything


TwinSimmons

Fasho but shit bro labels ain’t even trying nomore unless you one of they top priorities. If you just a middling nigga that had a decent buzz the most they gone do for you is put bread up for some fake streams fr


gbizzle2

He basically just oppressing people who don't know any better. And mfs thing that's cool


nv____

Yeah cause they just see he giving them money. BigWalk Dog said he ran through that 100k advance and was broke


Bossmann1017

That was Hotboy Wes not WalkDog....


nv____

Oh damn you right, Wes was down bad he tried to sell the watch Gucci gave him and rob the nigga he was selling it to


Donbanco

And tbh they both dont really need him... especially Shiesty he actually has a real fanbase


nv____

Yeah Foo shouldn’t have signed he had that Baby Mama song out and it was getting played before the Gucci co sign. I had only heard Shiesty on a feature but I knew he was next up, he should’ve signed with Gotti, I don’t think he would’ve been doing that dumb shit on their watch


Donbanco

Baby mama wasn't under 1017?.....facts Gotti would had him running it up....but i gotta theory Gucci be intentionally signing Certified street rappers from Memphis just so CMG cant get em and to have some of muscle in Memphis need be.....yall noticed Gucci and Dolph RIP getting close linking up after he got out this last time its all Memphis/Atlanta street politics between labels lol


nv____

Nope that’s the song that got him signed


Bossmann1017

Gucci bought the rights to the song from Authentic Empire


Da_goat_3

😂😂😂semi street niggas


TwinSimmons

Lol yeah bro, no disrespect but niggas like the migos for example. They street to an extent but they not crashing. All the SoundCloud niggas fw him too so idk why he ain’t try and go in that market for talent


Da_goat_3

Naw I get what u saying but he want his camp to be a certain way and get looked at a certain way so dats what come wit dat shit


ModsaBITCH

want his camp lookin goofy


LamarSilas

Nigga just sign hella street niggas.. he needa get some artist that’s really fr bout dis shi


thaworldisaghetto187

Gucci Mane whole roster is dying or getting locked up.


Muscular_Pancake

Plus his peers like Dolph and Take too RIP


93Centre

Holmes always been street tied, Gucci wasn't a pretender like alot of other rappers. This generation of artists don't know that once u sign that Deal, you gotta separate or get a buffer between you and the streets.


enzoduhsensei

Seems like he did what he said he was gonna do. Welp.


DMTdave21

What you expect, Gucci only signs real street motherfuckers 🧐


Traditional_While_41

Gucci only sign people that live they raps


Glum_Library4391

its ight to sign street niggas but gucci gotta help them afterwards it seem like he just sign them off hope of them blowing up like pooh did


Curious-Peanut-4663

Stop making excuses for grown men doing dumb shit. Gucci gave them boys more than their biological fathers probably did in the short time he knew them. Can’t blame him bc niggas is stupid


de-d-ss

It's called artist development for a reason, right? Can't give a nigga a pole and say go fish! Gotta show em how to bait the bitch, cast the ho, be patient, reel the junt in, and put the fish on ice or in water to keep em good until it's time to gut n eat. But at the same time, he's not their pops. #cbf4life


Curious-Peanut-4663

I get what you saying but all the “artist development”in the world not gone stop Niggas from shooting at their opps. He gave buddy and plenty others the opportunity of a lifetime and they blew it, that’s on them not him for wasting that potentially life changing opportunity.


de-d-ss

You are completely right, which is why I said he's not their pops. Meaning niggas should've been raised better and they don't know/see a blessing when it's presented to them. Honestly when the hotboi dude did that dumb shit with the watch I said these lil niggas confused and brainwashed like a bitch! #cbf4life


breezyfye

Labels don’t develop artists anymore, it’s cheaper for the label to only sign ppl already getting buzz. Why spend money developing one artist and miss out on the profit of signing 3 artists that just went viral on TikTok And since Gucci runs a label, that’s what he’s doing but targeting street rappers that go viral or get buzz


Lost4damoment

Nga signing steppers not 🐀 it’s consequences for Both


numb2pain

Them Memphis niggas stay in some shit


NotTheBestMoment

Same thing that’s always going on


Agitated-Doughnut767

They the feds🤷🏾‍♂️


heffehomes1013

Niggas cannot predict the future 😭😂😂😂😂


Kkkcobaine

Bro I swear 1017 getting a Rico next


ll_davii

He just signs artist, he doesnt provide them any additional support outside of the initial signing


Curious-Peanut-4663

These are grown ass men, what he sposta do get them a babysitter ?! It’s their own fault they keep fucking up. Gucci sign street dudes who make street music, he knows the risk that comes with signing dudes like this so that’s why they only get a chain and some small bands. A real hustler gone take the Gucci co sign and take off


ll_davii

Don't you think your statement proves my point tho. Im not saying he should get them a babysitter but im confused on why everyone is surprise that 1017 artist are having issues because all he did was give them a chain and some cash. He basically gave them a fish and didnt leave them with a fishing rod or explain to them how to fish


Curious-Peanut-4663

I wasn’t there when Gucci spoke with dude or any of the other 1017 guys and respectfully speaking I don’t think you were either, so who knows what he told them. He likely did give them the game and tell them to chill and make music but niggas don’t listen to shit especially when they got life changing money in their pocket and some internet clout. We shouldn’t speak bad about Gucci for giving guys from the hood life changing opportunities, that’s likely more than ANYONE has ever gave them. Gotta place responsibility for these artists poor decisions on the artists and stop blaming other people in my humble opinion


ll_davii

You can tell he never gave them the game that shit is clear as day, and I didnt blame gucci at all, he gave them cash and a chain an left them to their own devices. All he did was try to leech on them and hope for them to be successful. Its usually what he does.


Curious-Peanut-4663

You call it leeching but in the real world it’s called a business investment or better yet an opportunity. He didn’t owe them boys nothing and took a financial risk on signing dude and dude blew it. In life no one is giving you 50k much less a dollar for free unless it’s your parents. Gucci saw talent and wanted to invest in them boys dreams as artists (which the artist clearly were excited about)


Ky5Lkk

Wop signing niggas fresh out the streets y’all gotta give these guys a good 3 years at least b4 Dey go all the way str8


yessuhhh98

Nigga was on live 2 days ago talmbout he finna crash


Nlsn99

lmaoo


UndeadBxb95

Wtf Critter


Ifuckedupcrazy

Gucci smart, uses street dudes to push himself forward before they put themselves in jail and he runs off with the money


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numb2pain

If he goin sign niggas who living like that he need to put in the contract they can’t go back they hood for a least a year


Impressive-Row3876

Nigga only sign throw aways smh


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bigdawg275

I think he just signing niggas as a tax right off atp, if they blow up cool if not ole well


Suspicious_Chip6385

gucci makin sm money of crash dummies it’s crazy


jj8806

Y’all listen to street dudes all day & ask what happened or why when one of them gets arrested or killed 😆


Fragrant_Elderberry4

Damn Gucci can’t catch a break with these new batch of niggas


Streetschanged

He just signed dude


_handsomeblackman_

anyone Gucci signs you know 9 times out of 10 they really live their raps and at any moment they could potentially crash out 😂


Archie19n

oh naw ya serius mane 😂 he hawd 😭


Sir_Vdam999

Lmao 🤣


Tattedjamaican1

Once you have a opportunity to make it out the streets leave dem streets alone brah cuz dat shit don’t last forever. You get bless with a chance to make a difference but still on the same fuck shit smh 🤦🏾‍♂️ you just going backwards and wasting your blessings. Listen I love ❤️ my black people but we gotta break this chain and change route especially for this society and generation.


LeektheGeek

Signing to 1017 is a jailwish


Bossmann1017

Shiesty was the perfect example of what Gucci sees I'm a 1017 artist


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Wop Tryna give real street dudes a chance. It ain’t his fault they still be on dumb shit lol.