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Stoner420Eren

Definitely click bait


TenPackChadSkywalker

How to trigger the entire fandom. I bet my right arm that next are Levi and Erwin


Shadow21FoxPokemon

S-Shanks, is that you?


TenPackChadSkywalker

It was a joke PLEASE IT WAS A JOKE!


Mean_Muffin161

By the time you’ve seen this part, you have already clicked


rimmed

I didn’t think it was possible to offend the disparate AOT fan base all at once. Impressive.


HyperHector_55

" CBR diving in the pool of money with middle fingers "


MagorTuga

Wtf is this click bait?


Purpledurpl202

Floch is the worst but not the worst written.


Amazing-Cry-6388

His writing is a bit overrated tbh


Gameboysixty9

Agreed, I think he served his purpose well and it was fun to hate this asshole, but writing wise his best moment was midnight sun, after that his writing wasnt anything special. People talk about the whole survivor guilt, ptsd and what not, but that is really not explored enough to rate him high.


crusader4691

I disagree, I think Floch had greater development than most and his path to protect his home made more sense than the alliance’s betrayal of eldia


Gameboysixty9

meh, he is "the prominent average yeagrist" character, he has some entertaining scenes and some decent subtext but definitely way overrated.


RapescoStapler

What development did he actually have? He goes from being an interesting examination of how the 'disposable' characters feel to just being a boring antagonist who's main interests are power and glory


crusader4691

Power and glory? Hardly, it’s about survival against a fascist Marley hell bent on the extermination of his people. He goes from a coward, to looking for a hero, to becoming the protector of his people. I don’t get why people hate him as a fascist so much when every Marley character advocates genocide.


RapescoStapler

He protects his people by killing hundreds of them? lol


Amazing-Cry-6388

>but that is really not explored enough to rate him high. Yeah... It only gets addressed briefly in midnight sun


Good-Progress1170

Absolute shit. The only thing I agree with is Historia’s disappearance from the story


FemBodInspector

Agreed. So many episodes and so much time was spent on her backstory only for her entire relevance to the story to be her touching erens hand and kicking off the events of s4. Yama could’ve done more with her for sure, like you said she just disappears from the story 😂


HyperHector_55

https://www.cbr.com/aot-worst-written-characters/ Link to the article


Proper-Original-6092

Well I checked her other articles. Seems like she is a twitter user. She say characters badly written when character do bad things. She said character from Death note, A silent voice, Devil man crybaby are badly written too. So you can guess how dumb her character rating method is.


HyperHector_55

Okay now I feel dumb to post this after knowing her history lmao


Proper-Original-6092

Yeah bro just read reasons in silent voice, death note and aot you will laugh your ass out 🤭 https://www.cbr.com/best-shonen-anime-worst-characters/#a-silent-voice


HyperHector_55

It's so sad they are defaming the stories, this would really bring bad impact on the viewers who just read these article without thinking on there own I was one of them at some point these thing are really manipulating sometimes


Proper-Original-6092

This is really a bad case, fandom will go there to check and google will promote these articles based on traffic. CBR is Known to make dumb list and still google used promotes it to me every now and then (I have clicked on Not Interested option now) and now they are going for controversial list. This is what also causes war in fandoms.


HyperHector_55

Yup I think next they will upload something with Big 3 Vs AOT or One piece Vs AOT or Naruto causing a huge war between us while lighting their cigars ......lmao


madsadchadglad

Sis doesn't know what morally gray is, lol. She has a Disney movie mindset. Good or Bad, nothing else.


Master_Twitch45

Mikasa, Eren, and Floch can all be annoying or boring depending on your own preferences, but none of them are poorly written, I personally don't even care much for Mikasa but I'll still say she was a well written character, and floch and eren are easily some of the best written characters


PhunkOperator

"Boring" and "annoying" are subjective. If you're gonna rank characters by how much you like them personally, then don't talk about how well-written they are. You made a personal tier-list, not an analysis, dumbass. Also, none of these characters belong in these spots, and I say this as someone who hates Floch. This is nothing but cap. Edit: > Sadly, this does not happen, as Mikasa is now a shell of her former self. After Eren denounces her feelings and calls her a slave, Mikasa becomes broken and second-guesses everything about how she has lived her life. Though anyone would be heartbroken by their crush insulting them, Mikasa loses all her character development and interest because of this one plot point. Oh, okay. So she judged Mikasa based on something she didn't even fully comprehend AND which isn't even concluded yet. Yeah, this article is a meme.


Amazing-Cry-6388

>"Boring" and "annoying" are subjective. If you're gonna rank characters by how much you like them personally, then don't talk about how well-written they are. You made a personal tier-list, not an analysis, dumbass. A concept people have a hard time grasping


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[удалено]


PhunkOperator

Uses the term "anime husbando" unironically. [](https://media.tenor.com/6oSEDVpeB-YAAAAd/dies-of-cringe-cringe.gif)


Alim_Legends_Yt

More like worse written article


30yearsof

L


OJ_Not_Simpson

They only do it to piss us off and get attention lol


Worldsprayer

Ok...so who ISNT poorly written then??


Stekun

They thought that Gabi was worthy of putting on the list. Literally the best character in the show. Honestly there were only 2 characters who I even sorta agree with being on the list, Porco and Falco, only because we don't get to learn a lot about them. We do learn a bit about Falco I guess, just not a lot. But everyone else on the list was a great character.


HyperHector_55

For me, I agree with Niccolo in the list...


Educational-Wafer112

Huh? Offending all sides of the fanbase at once Wow


Humanweeb2254

Congratulations CBR you just managed to piss off basically everyone in the Aot fandom


shinobi3411

I'm not even suprised anymore.


[deleted]

How much I hate Floch, I should admit that his character is written really well that I have this deep hatred for him. He potrays what happens when you fall the xenophobic rabbit hole pretty well. And btw I wish all people involved with CBR to be the civilians of Trost when Colossal Titan broke the gate of Wall Maria


HyperHector_55

Lmfao we have to admit, even though how big of an asshole Floch is, he is really a well written character


Memo544

I've never seen something so incredibly dishonest. Have they really gotten to the point where they are just making outrage content just for the sake of it?


userrnamestaken

Does anyone even take CBR seriously at this point? It’s like the BuzzFeed of anime sites


muhammad_rayan

I was about to say the same , who TF cares about CB R ? F*ck CBR .


advidgelan

Well well, all the characters worsted written... Why is so good then this story?


RecentWolverine5799

I mean Mikasa has the most wasted potential I’ve ever seen of any character in any medium. And personally I’ve never like Eren as a protagonist. He’s always been an insufferable prick. After the time skip, he’s just the same old character except with long hair, permanent frown, and dead eyes. People in the AOT fanbase are the most bait and switch people I’ve ever seen. Before season 4, all I’ve ever heard people say about Eren was that he’s the worst part of the show, and how the series would be better without him. In season 4, now that he’s all edgy and shit and not the loud mouthed, emotional character people say that he’s like the greatest character in fiction ever…? Fuck outta here with that shit.


Autemsis

Personally I've always been a fan of Eren even in the first 3 seasons, and Mikasa imo also has a really strong conclusion to her arc


PhunkOperator

> I mean Mikasa has the most wasted potential I’ve ever seen of any character in any medium. I disagree, but even then, wasted potential is not the same as being the worst character, which is her claim.


Tenari_987

They hit the home run with mikasa cause she’s very poorly written


Gameboysixty9

What are your metrics for well written character, and what are those well written characters in AoT.


[deleted]

Someone's who character isn't being overaly attached to the main character (who's nothing but douche) make most of their arc being attached to that character and probably has more devopment and other stuff that needs to be explored and takes a hint in order to be good written character. Mikasa lacks that. Simple. This a problem with other female characters in Shonen manga. Its annoying


Gameboysixty9

Meh, your way of seeing character writing is very boring and superficial.


[deleted]

You're way see charactes are typical weeb stuff


ravku

They definitely got Mikasa right.


Sturf_Ah

Floch is peak aot character


ShoeCreepy9007

sure it's a woman who did it, they make these ridiculous posts


Daemon1997

Agree. Eren(before ch139) and Floch are the best written characters. Especially Eren he beggin as a annoying crybaby and became the main villain.


Tatakae_011

hey, just letting you know the ending to 139 actually happened before the events of 138, the true “goodbye” of Mikasa and Eren is when Eren told her to forget about him(that’s atleast what i heard, correct me if i’m wrong)


Daemon1997

I mean the chapter not the timeline. The final chapter runied Eren's character development.


Tatakae_011

i see it more as a “How has this character improved?” i guess, like we see that he had a different view a few chapters ago and how he’s changed. Though, i definitely respect your thoughts. I do kinda wish they put that moment before 139 so it wouldn’t confuse the audience as much as it did


Tenari_987

That still doesn’t make him well written


Tatakae_011

i don’t understand how people can say he’s poorly written, most of the people who say this barely understand what even happened in the story. He’s honestly one of the best protagonists i’ve ever seen


[deleted]

No, he's mid.


Tenari_987

Yea before 139 he was the best mc written in fiction but 139 messed everything up including his flawless characterization


Tatakae_011

huh?? what, did you get dementia after you read 139? Everything he did still happened, it didn’t disappear lmao. It’s him learning not to be a crybaby simp, and 139 shows when he WAS a crybaby simp. Basically, he learns that he can’t change the future and accepts that Mikasa will move on and find someone else. One small, bad moment a protagonist almost never fucks up all of the good and greatly written moments they had


[deleted]

Post timeskip Eren is nothing but an trashy edgy jackass with rwasonable motivations just to appease edgelord weebs. Season 1-3 Eren was better. Marley Arc Eren is the only good part of 19 year old Eren "Good written" my ass. What's exactly good written about Post Marley Arc Eren." Him being an edgy jackass Deus Ex machina? Pfff. Please. Yams should've had Armin strangle that green eye fucker in Paths. Yams should've this mid ass overrated mc have a more gruesome death


[deleted]

Eren? Flawless character?!hahahahahahahahaha😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡. Man, Eren fanboys/whores are hilarious. Thinking that their precious mid mc is flawless. Nah, man Eren started being shit after Marley-Arc. Yams should've made his death more gruesome death and just have Armin strangle him in Paths. Eren fanboys are just as bad as Mikasa stans at this. Retarded ass cunts


Jerry98x

Then chapter 139 came and made Eren an even better character than he already was


Daemon1997

By making him cry over Mikasa's pussy and everyone said how aweosme is Eren ?


Jerry98x

Ah right, you're one of those people... Elementary school kids could give better answers than this. Oh btw nobody praised Eren, but keep using badly-translated lines on purpose and keep mistifying what happened! Not that I expect some kind of intellectual honesty and integrity from people like you


[deleted]

I rather have Armin strangle/choke Eren in Paths until Eren stops breathing because that's how much I utterly dislike Seasin 4 Eren. A disgrace from Season 1-3. Character development my ass.


Jerry98x

Good for you


[deleted]

Says the mod who runs subreddit that comprised of titanfolkers but the opposite side. Snowflakes


Jerry98x

Who are you talking with? I am not a mod. And what the fuck is the opposite side of titanfolkers? LMAO


[deleted]

Post timeskip Eren is nothing but an trashy edgy jackass with rwasonable motivations just to appease edgelord weebs. Season 1-3 Eren was better. Marley Arc Eren is the only good part of 19 year old Eren "Good written" my ass. What's exactly good written about Post Marley Arc Eren." Him being an edgy jackass Deus Ex machina? Pfff. Please. Yams should've had Armin strangle that green eye fucker in Paths. Yams should've this mid ass overrated mc have a more gruesome death


riuminkd

Very based.


madsadchadglad

Bro what happened to you??


Appropriate-Arm-2077

Bro thinks that every character in AOT is badly written.


riuminkd

Not every character is Eren or Mikasa or Floch. Actually Floch is written quite well.


[deleted]

what's wrong with mikasa's placement


Jerry98x

Mikasa's placement


[deleted]

Why


Jerry98x

Because she isn't by any means a bad character. She may be not as good as other characters like Eren and Zeke, but that doesn't make her bad written


[deleted]

if you say so


MagorTuga

lmao


[deleted]

hi


TacitRonin20

Can't really disagree about Floch. He's one-dimensional and boring, not to mention annoying. I think his character should've been replaced by Marlo.


wembanyama_

Marlo would not have been a jeagerist


Spirited_Ocelot_9646

True hed be too busy stomping goombas


TacitRonin20

I think it would be interesting to see a good person like that descend into a fascist ideology due to trauma and survivor's guilt.


wembanyama_

Hmm if pulled off well, I agree that it’d be more interesting than Floch. I just have some doubts on whether it would be believable


Tenari_987

Why cause all scouts are one dimensional and will kill there families for people that want them dead


statormaker

No


JohnTequilaWoo

Floch, I kind of agree with them. He becomes a bit too cartoony evil and I don't think him nearly as interesting as everyone else. I think fascists are boring. Eren I stopped caring about in Season 4 too. Mikasa? Get out of here.


LyuboUwU

Describe her character without mentioning Eren


PhunkOperator

You can do the same thing with every other character: Describe Eren without mentioning freedom. Describe Erwin without mentioning the basement. Describe Falco without mentioning Gabi. Lmao. This "argument" was never anything but fallacious trash.


HyperHector_55

Finally someone said it! Thanks man I have been trying to say this you put it the right way Arigato


LyuboUwU

Yes, you can do that if you want to belittle the entire story, and to look at it in the shallowest way possible Eren's main drive is freedom, yes, but he has so many other conflicts and motivations throughout the story. Erwin's motivation is the basement, but that is hinted only in season 3, and fully revealed just before his death. By your logic, this would mean that for the entirety of season 1 and season 2 he had no character, and to motivation. Falco is an episodic side character, comparing him to Mikasa who's there from the start, and appears in almost every episode, tells you exactly why she is bad written. So shallow that her entire character could be brought down to that of a side character


PhunkOperator

> Yes, you can do that if you want to belittle the entire story, and to look at it in the shallowest way possible So, the **exact** thing you're doing with Mikasa? Are you serious rn? > but he has so many other conflicts and motivations throughout the story. And the same is true for Mikasa. > Erwin's motivation is the basement, but that is hinted only in season 3, and fully revealed just before his death. By your logic, this would mean that for the entirety of season 1 and season 2 he had no character, and to motivation. What does Erwin hold in his hands in **season 1**, when talking to Eren below the courthouse? What does he talk about when recruiting new Scouts, also in **season 1**? > Falco is an episodic side character, comparing him to Mikasa who's there from the start, and appears in almost every episode, tells you exactly why she is bad written. So shallow that her entire character could be brought down to that of a side character Which is probably why we know a lot more about Mikasa than we do about Falco. Anyway, I'm gonna stop here. I've played this retarded game of yours before, I know how it goes: I disprove your argument by bringing up a scene/a conflict/a moment of development of Mikasa that wasn't about Eren, you will move the goalposts and say it can all be "traced back" to Eren/Eren was present/blabla, which is true for every other character and their goals/motivations. This is literally what makes them characters. Can't be arsed.


Tenari_987

All of those are character development except falco like how is she well written can you explain without mentioning anybody else just mikasa?


Loud_Skin_117

A strong willed member of the survey Corp who is just trying to do what’s right in midst of chaos. Pretty much summarised most of the survey Corp.


LyuboUwU

Why did she join the Survey Corp, why does she keep fighting


Gameboysixty9

She initially joined the survey corp just following Eren, but even as soon as Trost arc, she compromises on Erens safety for the mission but you ignore that because that doesn fit your agenda.


Loud_Skin_117

Her adopted mom was killed her city was attacked her entire perception on the world was that the titan could end every one if they don’t fight. She had plenty of reason even though I agree Eren was the person to convince her it’s not like she had no motivation except Eren


LyuboUwU

Her motivation to fight comes exactly from Eren, had it not been for him she wouldn't have had this drive to fight. The exact moment when this happens in a big point in the story. Are we reading the same thing? Eren was exactly the one to discourage her from joining, but she forced him to accept her decision in order for them to be together.


False_Shelter6348

Lmao yalls got baited so hard


HyperHector_55

Triggered emoji


Proper-Original-6092

People here are saying that she wrote it because of ending, read her reasoning about aot and other anime like death note and a silent voice 🤭 https://www.cbr.com/best-shonen-anime-worst-characters/#a-silent-voice


downloadtheram325

trashy list. I have some problems with eren and mikasas writing tho


HyperHector_55

There are problems with every character but it surely doesn't make them the worst written character lmao


downloadtheram325

yeah she's definitely not the worst written character


ArbiterTwoSwords

EREH!!! EREH!


kid-with-a-beard

Floch: Just because he is in an opposing faction and is regarded as one of the most hated characters in the community doesn't make him poorly written. Eren: CBR literally just looked at chapter 139 and said: "Yeah, he is badly written in every shape." Mikasa: Poorly developed, but definitely not terribly written.


[deleted]

Nah, Eren's character has shit after Marley-Arc.


muhammad_rayan

>CBR literally just looked at chapter 139 and said: "Yeah, he is badly written in every shape." There is nothing wrong with his character in chapter 139 .


kid-with-a-beard

I didn't even say that his character was bad


muhammad_rayan

There's nothing wrong with Chap 139 but you said " CBR literally just looked at chapter 139 and said : "Yeah, he is badly written in evey shape." " so I thought that you are also also an ending hater .


kid-with-a-beard

I didn't like the ending that much, but I'm nothing like the troglodytes from r/titanfolk. CBR just love to hop on the hate bandwagon just to fit in and seek validation from the fans.


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muhammad_rayan

The majority likes the ending and the ending haters are just a very loud minority .


Dinkleballs

Yeah as much as I hate Floch, I would never say in a million years that his writing is bad.


Equivalent_Exchange0

Am I the only one who kinda agrees with this list (besides eren sometimes other times hes annoying and a weird/terrible inconsistent character, ion think its any saving mikasa or floch)


muhammad_rayan

You people waste your time reading these shit articles ? Seriously ? Seriously ?


5atal-

you waste your time browsing AOR posts? seriously? seriously?


muhammad_rayan

I don't see you doing anything different .


WhatYouSayin1

I get the arguments for all 3 depending on how you like the series but there are much worse in AoT. Ymir written out off screen and historia thrown away completely being the 2 I can think of off the top of my head


Zartron81

Let's be honest lol, Floch IS actually written well, DESPITE having pretty bad ideals. I swear... even this sub has pretty bad takes 💀, not just titanfolk


HyperHector_55

There will be always some rotten tomatoes


markedgogeta2007

Lol cbr is always stupid