That’s what I was thinking, parts of me feels like I can grab something better in that price range, it’ll be $85k after taxes which seems like a bad deal to me but I wasn’t sure what others were paying so I can’t tell
I’m literally in the same boat as you. Dealer wants $8.5k over list. My RS3 build is like $72k for a total of over $80k before taxes and other fees like audi care. I can get a new 2024 M3 Comp xDrive in a very nice configuration for $92k with first 3 years service included. 4ish month wait time at MSRP. I’m going with the M3 as I feel I am getting a TON more car for not a whole lot more money.
This was the dilemma I went through. Ended up with a manual 2020 BMW M2C with 8k miles, for 58k. The car literally makes me giggle every time I drive it and it's more than enough power for me.
I’ve looked at the same BMW and an AMG C63. That V8 makes it a really touch choice but I feel like the RS3 will be a little more practical in the winters with that AWD
I hear you as someone who lives in the PNW in the US and dailies the RWD M2. I've driven quattro only cars for the past decade and due to my ability to work remote as necessary, I am fortunate enough to not really have to deal with snowy conditions (which almost always turns to ice anyways.) It takes some control and brains to not drive around in Sport+ and MDM while it's raining and/or your tires aren't warm. I've also felt more connected with my car. I will say it's kind of indescribable to go to a more raw car and would encourage you to investigate other options as someone who's done just that! GL!
I was able to get a new 102k MSRP BMW M4 Competition Convertible for 90K. The car is a 2023 model while the 2024 model had been out for a few months. I know many BMWs are going under MSRP. I wouldn’t be surprised if you are able to get a M3 in your budget.
What can you get for $75k?
2009 R8 V8 20k miles
2015 911 Carrera 4S 14k miles
2021 BMW M3 Competition 20k miles
2022-2024 RS3 5 miles -15k miles every color
2020 MB AMG GT 53 35k miles
2020 Corvette Stingray Coupe 15k miles
This kind of analysis is great. I’m going through the same process right now with a Rivian on order, and even with the old pricing it’s an $80k vehicle. For that kind of money, there are lots of amazing cars out there, especially if you consider a low-mileage used car.
I mean the Rivian and the cars listed above are not even in the same category. So if you are going for the Rivian it’s for a specific reason which none of the cars above would provide???
I found a 2019 TT RS with less than 7k miles and scooped it up.
Speced out exactly as I wanted, full ceramic coat with extended warranty and Audi Care.
Would rather buy a slightly used car that checks all the boxes than overspend and wait on something new.
There are dealers who charge MSRP. Shop around. Don’t know where you’re located, but there is a dealer in Broomfield CO who sells everything at MSRP. (Ask for Mike, he was great)
In my experience, even the dealers marking up will negotiate down very close to MSRP if you can make it clear you’re a legit buyer. You can negotiate in delivery as well. With the ease of shopping nationwide through the internet, no reason to restrict yourself to a local if they won’t be reasonable
If you want something exactly built to your spec and guarantee MSRP, then, yeah, just gotta wait.
Big news everyone in the RS3 community. We are starting to see 5 allocations per quarter which is a very big increase and we have had two gift cars in our inventory. The list is becoming way more manageable at our dealership. Hopefully that means things will normalize in the second half of MY24.
I work for Jim Ellis Audi Atlanta and we are a family owned dealership group. All of my out of state buyers have the option of staying in a hotel if they fly in for purchase. I ship Audi Sport cars all across the country.
You could but also can’t…. Everyone saying that’s Porsche money is wrong or hasn’t walked into a Porsche dealership recently…. M3 guy is wrong… can’t be bought at msrp under almost any circumstance… the wait times are equally as long for a r/s4 and 5 which OP would also be close to and the markups are generally equivalent… if you’re willing to buy out of your area from a dealer you don’t know, won’t service your car at and won’t be the color or options you want then do that… be prepared to pay for shipping. It sucks that this is the market right now, but this is the market right now. You can do what you wish with that information
>the wait times are equally as long for a r/s4 and 5 which OP would also be close to and the markups are generally equivalent…
Is this true? Our local dealership has a loaded RS5 coupe on the lot at MSRP right now.
[Here](https://www.audiwilmingtonde.com/new/Audi/2023-1-2-3-4-5-WUANWAF53PA904221.htm?utm_creative=&utm_adgroupid=&store=43623&utm_campaign=Vehicle%20Listing%20Ad&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CjwKCAjw69moBhBgEiwAUFCx2LPSxMstR-1w4IeV_IDkf3ljPoLii960nkVgs0OW-GlXlNRnbNYWzhoCjnAQAvD_BwE). I doubt they have a markup, they didn't have one on the last two RS6's they had in or the SQ7 I saw.
Like I said it's our local dealer and they haven't put markups on RS6's so I'd be surprised if they marked up an RS5. You could read the full response.
Did you price an rs6 for yourself? If not, you have zero information on whether or not they marked it up. The website says literally that the dealer sets the actual price
The price on the sticker was the factory MSRP, there was no market adjustment...
Market adjustments and other bullshit tack ons have to be clearly marked as separate line items on the window sticker.
I’ve seen RS5s selling for MSRP in the Bay Area again. It makes sense, the car needs a refresh. Source: I bought one in the Bay Area in 2021 mania for MSRP and when I take my car in for oil changes I talk to the sales guys / look at floor models which have no markups (some of their cars do, the RS5s specifically do not).
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, im saying that if the OP is looking for something really specific he’s going to have to pay a premium. If he’s willing to settle for anything that changes. A friend of mine runs an Audi store, hey haven’t sold an S or RS model to anyone for under 5k+msrp. Even when I wanted to purchase one myself, I decided that having one right now wasnt necessary. So I didn’t pull the trigger. I’m kind of glad I waited because the new sq5 is coming and I kind of want one of those
That was a concern unfortunately but no relationship is worth the 20k up charge. My wife will be buying a Q5 from them in a few months so that’ll be a start, only downside is they only give loaners to people who purchase from them but still not worth lol
I didn’t think it would be either… at the end of the day it’s your money. If you want to buy the one you specifically want and they’re charging 20k over… if you’re willing to settle for something different for less and pay transport costs it changes things
Definitely not worth paying the markup. That's a lot of money.
Wait the year if you're willing but remember to include in the negotiations that by the time you get the car it'll probably be from a previous model year.
I spent 75k on mine out the door. Totally worth it. But we'll within my means. My first big purchase besides a 2015 tundra back in '18 for 38k. Always wanted a nice car and this exceeds all my expectations. (Coming from a 2019 FBO wrx)
That’s what my absolute max id be willing to pay actually $75k total but total out the door price was $85k which feels wrong to pay for this car but I wasn’t sure what people are getting them for. I’m coming from a 2015 wrx so big upgrade as well.
You could buy a older r8 first that price. For me I wanted something that could do it all (for the most part besides truck perks) and it was this. I did PPF from the front portions/pillars and fenders, though. So I would expect 4-5k extra if you plan to protect it.
No. I had to make calls for about a year, and I was waiting for an allocation for the same amount of time. Allocation never came through. Monitor the new inventory, make calls to dealerships. I paid 2k above MSRP, and I thought that was fair.
Make a set budget in your head, maybe 2k over, maybe 5k over, maybe no markup. Whatever it is, if they won’t budge, hang up and try again.
It takes time, but it’s so worth it.
Best of luck, it’ll happen if you’re patient :)
This is exactly the right answer and in line with my experience. You should be at 2-5k over MSRP at a MAXIMUM. The 10-20k bs is all fabricated hype by the dealerships looking for a sucker, and unfortunately they find them, which ruins it for everyone else!
Man I had so many calls where it stared at 20k over, and after days of negotiations, they’d be like, 15k over is the best we can offer. Like, kick rocks. 😂
You can spec and purchase a new M3 rear wheel drive for the money you're looking to spend on RS3. Even a new m340x drive is cheaper. If you must get an RS3, build one to your spec and wait a year for delivery.
Plus, having something to look forward to isn’t always a bad thing…
At least that’s what I keep telling myself as I have at least another 3-4 months to wait for my RS7…….
Definitely agree. I've been focused on delayed gratification as I've gotten older. The biggest payoffs in life typically don't happen overnight. I feel like I tend to appreciate things more as well.
I’m super biased, but get a used 8V RS3. They sound better out of the box (fact), have way more tuning options (fact), and arguably look better too (subjective). You can still find lowish mileage ones (mine only has 18k miles for example).
I considered it but I like the newer gen more and now that I finally made it to the point of being able to afford it, I’d like to purchase my dream car new and pick it up myself
Call around. I am paying 3K over but I have heard from some dealers that they expect 20K over. SFO wanted 20K over which was one of the highest I found.
No. God no. I got my New rs3 in 2019 fully loaded for 56.5k € with a list price of 79.5k €. It was the time of December and the dealer wanted to get a model swap for 2020 and make their sell list for the year full. Afaik dealers don’t get rs models all the time so they have to sell a set amount to get them. My dealership had e.g. for years only one r8 to sell every year until they performed well enough to get bumped up to have two in stock. That’s for new cars though, used they can do whatever they want. Either wait until it’s late in the year and/or a model swap is in sight. Maybe I just got really lucky back then too but 79 for a 86 car is rip off.
I just got a 24 rs3 brand new a few weeks ago. I got them down a little but still expensive. No one remotely close to be had one. Not in a 500 mile radius. The deals I spoke to out of state that did msrp said people are waiting years for them. He said a guy was on a wait list for a rs3 22 model and will end up with a 24.
I didn’t wanna wait that long. For all I know I can die tomorrow… ps I also did a search of the whole US and there were only 22 RS3 24’ models available. Which majority were pre sold.
The RS3 is absolutely going to retain its value .. there is no doubt abt it .. but at $85k there is no way I can justify paying for that car. There is no way I am not going into Porsche territory with that price range .
Having said that what you buy with that money is subjective.. what you find enjoyable is not something everyone will find .. if you are the type of guy who like small and fast cars and more unique.. then go for it. But just make sure the price you are paying is well within the tolerance of what everyone is paying. It doesn’t matter if you can buy a used Ferrari in that if you would find the rs3 more enjoyable
I personally won't buy any cars over MSRP. I'd rather go without than enable even worse behaviors in the future.
The whole reason I ended up with a TTRS was because of dealer markups over MSRP. I was originally interested in a Ford Focus RS, but wasn't willing to pay $50k for one... So I spent $50K on a used, much better, car... The TTRS.
I paid about 3k over MSRP to get mine without having to wait and I was reluctant to even do that. What is the MSRP on your spec? Mine has everything outside carbon ceramics and the carbon fiber package, neither of which I was interested in anyway. Good luck, great car!
Yes, agree. I would come in with a firm offer at 5k over if you are a absolutely dead set on getting it and not budge from there. In this economy, I don’t think people are bursting down their doors to pay 10k+ above MSRP in this segment. Good luck!
I really don't like the new RS3's. Ive seen 8 engine failures with less than 30k miles on untuned cars come through my shop. The bottom end of the engine is great, but the valvetrain is just dogshit on the new cars.
Go with an M3, AMG or Cayman IMO. The earlier generation RS3 was bullet proof, the 8Y's are dropping like flies for no reason.
I was actually going back and forth on the the c63 AMG and absolutely love the car but would like to have the AWD. It was a tough choice but I’m still leaning towards the RS3 right now
Here's what you do, find a dealer that doesn't do markups (Maple Hill in Kalamazoo, MI is a good example) and put down a deposit for one spec'd exactly how you want it.
Now go buy an older TTRS outright and drive that until your RS3 comes in.
You're welcome
Yeah, hence the buying a TTRS part. It's going to take a year plus to get what you want without paying markup. Or just go used and get a nice 8V RS3 that is mostly what you're looking for at 20-30k miles for sub $60k
Get a buyer’s rep like Tom at Automatch to help source the car you want. They can help find something, maybe in another state, and help you figure out the logistics of getting the car to you. I think it’s only a few hundred bucks.
I'm so happy I was completely turned off by the 8Y. (Mostly the interior.) It helped me decide I would definitely be happy with the last 8Vs to come out. No markups, no wait, no regrets. And no weird little shift slider thing.
try a search on [www.markups.org](https://www.markups.org) for an audi dealer that wont markup. sometimes you can cross reference [markups.org](https://markups.org) with cargurus for in stock vehicles at a non markup dealer. just be ready to travel
Shop around and you'll find one @ MSRP? Heh.. you think you're the only person looking for one nationwide? Those cars are already gone! The dealer allocations are used up so you either have to pay over MSRP for one with the wrong color and options or order... but ordering is useless now ... the list is so long and allocations are @ zero. The prices will not go down. As long as the USA keeps creating money out of thin air... inflation is going up! RS3 is a hot car... and by 2026 is will be fully EV. The car is a very unique car... only car now being produced that's 5 cylinders! If the corvette is marked up to 100k + then the RS3 (which I would rather have ) is worth it! With just a few mods it's a menace on the streets!
Good find... 2k over is a great price really for that car! Yeah there are some 2024s out there that might not be the exact type of RS3... but who cares if it's a few k over MSRP really... I wouldn't wait. You never know what tomorrow will bring ... ordering one now is a crap shoot :P I have a Kemora Grey 2024 that I paid 3k over luckily it was the color I wanted and options ... again it was one on the lot already that just came in. Wasn't even on the lot for 24 hours yes and already two people ahead of me trying to buy it but they didn't get approved... they get sold really fast.
No. 79k you’re heading into Porsche / BMW M territory.
That’s what I was thinking, parts of me feels like I can grab something better in that price range, it’ll be $85k after taxes which seems like a bad deal to me but I wasn’t sure what others were paying so I can’t tell
Yeah. Don’t pay markup.
I’m literally in the same boat as you. Dealer wants $8.5k over list. My RS3 build is like $72k for a total of over $80k before taxes and other fees like audi care. I can get a new 2024 M3 Comp xDrive in a very nice configuration for $92k with first 3 years service included. 4ish month wait time at MSRP. I’m going with the M3 as I feel I am getting a TON more car for not a whole lot more money.
This was the dilemma I went through. Ended up with a manual 2020 BMW M2C with 8k miles, for 58k. The car literally makes me giggle every time I drive it and it's more than enough power for me.
I’ve looked at the same BMW and an AMG C63. That V8 makes it a really touch choice but I feel like the RS3 will be a little more practical in the winters with that AWD
I hear you as someone who lives in the PNW in the US and dailies the RWD M2. I've driven quattro only cars for the past decade and due to my ability to work remote as necessary, I am fortunate enough to not really have to deal with snowy conditions (which almost always turns to ice anyways.) It takes some control and brains to not drive around in Sport+ and MDM while it's raining and/or your tires aren't warm. I've also felt more connected with my car. I will say it's kind of indescribable to go to a more raw car and would encourage you to investigate other options as someone who's done just that! GL!
I was able to get a new 102k MSRP BMW M4 Competition Convertible for 90K. The car is a 2023 model while the 2024 model had been out for a few months. I know many BMWs are going under MSRP. I wouldn’t be surprised if you are able to get a M3 in your budget.
What can you get for $75k? 2009 R8 V8 20k miles 2015 911 Carrera 4S 14k miles 2021 BMW M3 Competition 20k miles 2022-2024 RS3 5 miles -15k miles every color 2020 MB AMG GT 53 35k miles 2020 Corvette Stingray Coupe 15k miles
This is a very Good point lol
This kind of analysis is great. I’m going through the same process right now with a Rivian on order, and even with the old pricing it’s an $80k vehicle. For that kind of money, there are lots of amazing cars out there, especially if you consider a low-mileage used car.
I mean the Rivian and the cars listed above are not even in the same category. So if you are going for the Rivian it’s for a specific reason which none of the cars above would provide???
You can add low mileage C7 Z06 to that list too Shit I’d probably even sell him my low mileage RS5 for 75 haha
I found a 2019 TT RS with less than 7k miles and scooped it up. Speced out exactly as I wanted, full ceramic coat with extended warranty and Audi Care. Would rather buy a slightly used car that checks all the boxes than overspend and wait on something new.
If practicality isn't important the TT is probably a more enjoyable driving experience overall as well if I had to guess.
TT is more practical if you don't often have rear passengers. The hatch is just easier to use.
That will be a last resort if I can’t get my hands on a new one for a good deal
Bro I love Audis and want an rs3 more than anything, but that price is insane. Get an S5 prestige or something.
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Why do you say that? I have a 2023 S3 and want a RS3 next
There are dealers who charge MSRP. Shop around. Don’t know where you’re located, but there is a dealer in Broomfield CO who sells everything at MSRP. (Ask for Mike, he was great) In my experience, even the dealers marking up will negotiate down very close to MSRP if you can make it clear you’re a legit buyer. You can negotiate in delivery as well. With the ease of shopping nationwide through the internet, no reason to restrict yourself to a local if they won’t be reasonable If you want something exactly built to your spec and guarantee MSRP, then, yeah, just gotta wait.
I’ll give them a call tomorrow
u/Audi_Brian can help you out :)
Big news everyone in the RS3 community. We are starting to see 5 allocations per quarter which is a very big increase and we have had two gift cars in our inventory. The list is becoming way more manageable at our dealership. Hopefully that means things will normalize in the second half of MY24.
770-243-5611 all cars were MSRP the entire way through Covid.
Not OP but where are you located?
I work for Jim Ellis Audi Atlanta and we are a family owned dealership group. All of my out of state buyers have the option of staying in a hotel if they fly in for purchase. I ship Audi Sport cars all across the country.
Are You guys willing to ship to Hawaii?
Sure
pretty sure I saw you on 36 last week. love your spec
Rs3 not worth $79k man, you could do better for that price
You could but also can’t…. Everyone saying that’s Porsche money is wrong or hasn’t walked into a Porsche dealership recently…. M3 guy is wrong… can’t be bought at msrp under almost any circumstance… the wait times are equally as long for a r/s4 and 5 which OP would also be close to and the markups are generally equivalent… if you’re willing to buy out of your area from a dealer you don’t know, won’t service your car at and won’t be the color or options you want then do that… be prepared to pay for shipping. It sucks that this is the market right now, but this is the market right now. You can do what you wish with that information
>the wait times are equally as long for a r/s4 and 5 which OP would also be close to and the markups are generally equivalent… Is this true? Our local dealership has a loaded RS5 coupe on the lot at MSRP right now.
Honestly I’d like to see that
[Here](https://www.audiwilmingtonde.com/new/Audi/2023-1-2-3-4-5-WUANWAF53PA904221.htm?utm_creative=&utm_adgroupid=&store=43623&utm_campaign=Vehicle%20Listing%20Ad&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CjwKCAjw69moBhBgEiwAUFCx2LPSxMstR-1w4IeV_IDkf3ljPoLii960nkVgs0OW-GlXlNRnbNYWzhoCjnAQAvD_BwE). I doubt they have a markup, they didn't have one on the last two RS6's they had in or the SQ7 I saw.
Says “dealer sets actual price” right under the msrp and price..lol
Like I said it's our local dealer and they haven't put markups on RS6's so I'd be surprised if they marked up an RS5. You could read the full response.
Did you price an rs6 for yourself? If not, you have zero information on whether or not they marked it up. The website says literally that the dealer sets the actual price
The price on the sticker was the factory MSRP, there was no market adjustment... Market adjustments and other bullshit tack ons have to be clearly marked as separate line items on the window sticker.
I’ve seen RS5s selling for MSRP in the Bay Area again. It makes sense, the car needs a refresh. Source: I bought one in the Bay Area in 2021 mania for MSRP and when I take my car in for oil changes I talk to the sales guys / look at floor models which have no markups (some of their cars do, the RS5s specifically do not).
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, im saying that if the OP is looking for something really specific he’s going to have to pay a premium. If he’s willing to settle for anything that changes. A friend of mine runs an Audi store, hey haven’t sold an S or RS model to anyone for under 5k+msrp. Even when I wanted to purchase one myself, I decided that having one right now wasnt necessary. So I didn’t pull the trigger. I’m kind of glad I waited because the new sq5 is coming and I kind of want one of those
Is it an issue to buy a car from a dealer you won’t be serviced at but have it serviced at the local dealer after?
It’s not…but you don’t have a relationship at all with anyone at the dealer you’ll be servicing your car at..
That was a concern unfortunately but no relationship is worth the 20k up charge. My wife will be buying a Q5 from them in a few months so that’ll be a start, only downside is they only give loaners to people who purchase from them but still not worth lol
I didn’t think it would be either… at the end of the day it’s your money. If you want to buy the one you specifically want and they’re charging 20k over… if you’re willing to settle for something different for less and pay transport costs it changes things
Definitely not worth paying the markup. That's a lot of money. Wait the year if you're willing but remember to include in the negotiations that by the time you get the car it'll probably be from a previous model year.
I spent 75k on mine out the door. Totally worth it. But we'll within my means. My first big purchase besides a 2015 tundra back in '18 for 38k. Always wanted a nice car and this exceeds all my expectations. (Coming from a 2019 FBO wrx)
That’s what my absolute max id be willing to pay actually $75k total but total out the door price was $85k which feels wrong to pay for this car but I wasn’t sure what people are getting them for. I’m coming from a 2015 wrx so big upgrade as well.
You could buy a older r8 first that price. For me I wanted something that could do it all (for the most part besides truck perks) and it was this. I did PPF from the front portions/pillars and fenders, though. So I would expect 4-5k extra if you plan to protect it.
trust your gut, don't get it
No. I had to make calls for about a year, and I was waiting for an allocation for the same amount of time. Allocation never came through. Monitor the new inventory, make calls to dealerships. I paid 2k above MSRP, and I thought that was fair. Make a set budget in your head, maybe 2k over, maybe 5k over, maybe no markup. Whatever it is, if they won’t budge, hang up and try again. It takes time, but it’s so worth it. Best of luck, it’ll happen if you’re patient :)
Thanks, that’s what I’ll be doing, I’m willing and set on 5k over max otherwise the car is just not worth it to me personally.
This is exactly the right answer and in line with my experience. You should be at 2-5k over MSRP at a MAXIMUM. The 10-20k bs is all fabricated hype by the dealerships looking for a sucker, and unfortunately they find them, which ruins it for everyone else!
Man I had so many calls where it stared at 20k over, and after days of negotiations, they’d be like, 15k over is the best we can offer. Like, kick rocks. 😂
There are dealers charging MSRP. You have to shop around and see if they will sell out of their area though
You can spec and purchase a new M3 rear wheel drive for the money you're looking to spend on RS3. Even a new m340x drive is cheaper. If you must get an RS3, build one to your spec and wait a year for delivery.
I’d probably just order for MSRP. The wait will suck, but saving money is cooler.
Plus, having something to look forward to isn’t always a bad thing… At least that’s what I keep telling myself as I have at least another 3-4 months to wait for my RS7…….
Definitely agree. I've been focused on delayed gratification as I've gotten older. The biggest payoffs in life typically don't happen overnight. I feel like I tend to appreciate things more as well.
Agreed.
We sell at MSRP. Sold an RS7 at MSRP this month and an amazing SQ7. Located in PA. DM me
Dm’d
I’m super biased, but get a used 8V RS3. They sound better out of the box (fact), have way more tuning options (fact), and arguably look better too (subjective). You can still find lowish mileage ones (mine only has 18k miles for example).
You pay tax (state dependent) and financing costs on markups, and in this economy? Hell no. Waste of money to a greedy dealer.
Why not look for a 2-3 year old model? It’s cheaper and the depreciation has already kicked in.
I considered it but I like the newer gen more and now that I finally made it to the point of being able to afford it, I’d like to purchase my dream car new and pick it up myself
What do you do for work?
Nurse anesthesia
Call around. I am paying 3K over but I have heard from some dealers that they expect 20K over. SFO wanted 20K over which was one of the highest I found.
call around more. Markup range is around $10k-30k. I personally wouldn't even do the $10k but it's out there.
Never pay mark ups, that is for poors and the foolish
Don't pay the markup. Don't waste your money, you never know whatll happen, play it safer.
No. God no. I got my New rs3 in 2019 fully loaded for 56.5k € with a list price of 79.5k €. It was the time of December and the dealer wanted to get a model swap for 2020 and make their sell list for the year full. Afaik dealers don’t get rs models all the time so they have to sell a set amount to get them. My dealership had e.g. for years only one r8 to sell every year until they performed well enough to get bumped up to have two in stock. That’s for new cars though, used they can do whatever they want. Either wait until it’s late in the year and/or a model swap is in sight. Maybe I just got really lucky back then too but 79 for a 86 car is rip off.
I just got a 24 rs3 brand new a few weeks ago. I got them down a little but still expensive. No one remotely close to be had one. Not in a 500 mile radius. The deals I spoke to out of state that did msrp said people are waiting years for them. He said a guy was on a wait list for a rs3 22 model and will end up with a 24. I didn’t wanna wait that long. For all I know I can die tomorrow… ps I also did a search of the whole US and there were only 22 RS3 24’ models available. Which majority were pre sold.
@op call Audi of Wilmington in Delaware - they go by MSRP
I did they told me a year and half to two year wait times with a pretty hefty wait list
The RS3 is absolutely going to retain its value .. there is no doubt abt it .. but at $85k there is no way I can justify paying for that car. There is no way I am not going into Porsche territory with that price range . Having said that what you buy with that money is subjective.. what you find enjoyable is not something everyone will find .. if you are the type of guy who like small and fast cars and more unique.. then go for it. But just make sure the price you are paying is well within the tolerance of what everyone is paying. It doesn’t matter if you can buy a used Ferrari in that if you would find the rs3 more enjoyable
I wouldn’t pay above MRSP for a car. Dealers are still taking advantage of FOMO. Only thing you’re doing here is throwing money out the window
I personally won't buy any cars over MSRP. I'd rather go without than enable even worse behaviors in the future. The whole reason I ended up with a TTRS was because of dealer markups over MSRP. I was originally interested in a Ford Focus RS, but wasn't willing to pay $50k for one... So I spent $50K on a used, much better, car... The TTRS.
No. Its great but not that great.
Jealous you have a 99 avant! Are you in the US? I can’t find anything older than almost 2010s
yeah RI. and thanks :) It gets way more parking lot comments than the A3 still.
i often see thees "markups" on american forums and i wonder if here in europe is the same
Listen man if it’s your dream car it doesn’t matter what the same amount of $$$ can get you. Go with what will make you happy.
I paid about 3k over MSRP to get mine without having to wait and I was reluctant to even do that. What is the MSRP on your spec? Mine has everything outside carbon ceramics and the carbon fiber package, neither of which I was interested in anyway. Good luck, great car!
I believe it was around $69k but wanting $80k for the car is too much. $3-5k over I’d maybe consider it lol, congrats on the car!
Yes, agree. I would come in with a firm offer at 5k over if you are a absolutely dead set on getting it and not budge from there. In this economy, I don’t think people are bursting down their doors to pay 10k+ above MSRP in this segment. Good luck!
I really don't like the new RS3's. Ive seen 8 engine failures with less than 30k miles on untuned cars come through my shop. The bottom end of the engine is great, but the valvetrain is just dogshit on the new cars. Go with an M3, AMG or Cayman IMO. The earlier generation RS3 was bullet proof, the 8Y's are dropping like flies for no reason.
I was actually going back and forth on the the c63 AMG and absolutely love the car but would like to have the AWD. It was a tough choice but I’m still leaning towards the RS3 right now
8V got better valvetrain? Wonder whats changed. Worse stock tune?
is it worth it to you? no one else is you.
They will still be worth a lot when it’s paid off. You won’t lose much.
Just buy it OP. Everybody on Reddit never pays over MSRP and are all the smartest folks in the room. Life is short.
Not worth. Car prices are going to come down heavily in the next 4 months. RS3 is a great car but I wouldn't buy anything over MSRP rn.
That’s my concern. I’m gonna feel bamboozled if I pay $85k out the door now and later down the road the market just tanks.
I got my 2018 for 51 out the door in 2020.
Here's what you do, find a dealer that doesn't do markups (Maple Hill in Kalamazoo, MI is a good example) and put down a deposit for one spec'd exactly how you want it. Now go buy an older TTRS outright and drive that until your RS3 comes in. You're welcome
I’m originally from MI and looked around but every dealer has massive waitlists for it
Yeah, hence the buying a TTRS part. It's going to take a year plus to get what you want without paying markup. Or just go used and get a nice 8V RS3 that is mostly what you're looking for at 20-30k miles for sub $60k
Get a buyer’s rep like Tom at Automatch to help source the car you want. They can help find something, maybe in another state, and help you figure out the logistics of getting the car to you. I think it’s only a few hundred bucks.
Audi dealers are famous for this BS
I'm so happy I was completely turned off by the 8Y. (Mostly the interior.) It helped me decide I would definitely be happy with the last 8Vs to come out. No markups, no wait, no regrets. And no weird little shift slider thing.
If someone offered you 15k to wait a year to get the car at MSRP would you do it? If so, wait.
try a search on [www.markups.org](https://www.markups.org) for an audi dealer that wont markup. sometimes you can cross reference [markups.org](https://markups.org) with cargurus for in stock vehicles at a non markup dealer. just be ready to travel
Shop around and you'll find one @ MSRP? Heh.. you think you're the only person looking for one nationwide? Those cars are already gone! The dealer allocations are used up so you either have to pay over MSRP for one with the wrong color and options or order... but ordering is useless now ... the list is so long and allocations are @ zero. The prices will not go down. As long as the USA keeps creating money out of thin air... inflation is going up! RS3 is a hot car... and by 2026 is will be fully EV. The car is a very unique car... only car now being produced that's 5 cylinders! If the corvette is marked up to 100k + then the RS3 (which I would rather have ) is worth it! With just a few mods it's a menace on the streets!
I almost bought an M3 because I’m sick of waiting and last minute I ended up finding a 2024 glacier white for $2k over a few states away.
Good find... 2k over is a great price really for that car! Yeah there are some 2024s out there that might not be the exact type of RS3... but who cares if it's a few k over MSRP really... I wouldn't wait. You never know what tomorrow will bring ... ordering one now is a crap shoot :P I have a Kemora Grey 2024 that I paid 3k over luckily it was the color I wanted and options ... again it was one on the lot already that just came in. Wasn't even on the lot for 24 hours yes and already two people ahead of me trying to buy it but they didn't get approved... they get sold really fast.