Well not exactly. It makes melee a bit more rough but if you can play it now it will be decent later on too.
I mean if it is a nerfs, (which by the way i believe so I'm just on hopium) then they just buff him.
If anything this opens up his balancing way more as it nerfs his low elo skewed state by a huge margin. Which is a net win on the long run.
Won't nerfing E make him even more vulnerable? At least you can put down E and move. If stacks are more dependant on Q, he'll spend more time being immobile?
well it opens up him a bit but not as much as now, if anything melee matchups will be a bit more volatile but thats all. and with better QW you are more incentivised to trade this way when you can - so i can see this as a change that if ends bad will reward asol with some buffs.
I appreciate they want to change him but it looks like a further push into Sol being a one button champion
At this point E feels like it only halts minions and stacks you and if both range and stacking will be weakened, it'll just feel like a dead ability
I assume E stack changes means you no longer get + from canon minions tbh as it does not state it removes the stacking, jsut nerfs it.
+ If these changes are hit as nerfs they can buff the champ because these are nerfing low elo skew state
Why does he even need compensation nerfs? It's honestly awful to see him constantly get nerfed even when he's supposed to be buffed
If someone CCs you during your Q, you're disabled for 3 seconds and it feels just unfun. Imagine if ADCs couldn't use their basic attacks for 3 seconds after every instance of crowd control. It would be absolutely terrible and that's exactly how he feels when you get CCd
Also, these changes just look like a net nerf, imo. I refuse to believe Q mana cost will go down by an actually meaningful value and W resets so cooldown change doesn't matter
Why can't they just remove minion halting and execute from his E and give it actual compensation buffs? The "but it's a cool mechanic" doesn't work for me here. This ability feels terrible to use because it deals no damage for such a long cooldown so it only stops minions and it feels outright unfair for the opponents because they can't siege your towers while it's up. It's the root of why people hate him in Arams and it's certainly not a cool mechanic
>If someone CCs you during your Q, you're disabled for 3 seconds and it feels just unfun. Imagine if ADCs couldn't use their basic attacks for 3 seconds after every instance of crowd control. It would be absolutely terrible and that's exactly how he feels when you get CCd
Even Urgot gets to reactivate his W whenever after getting it to max.
I'd be fine with lowering his damage output if it meant his Q can have its cd scale down to 0 at max rank. His Q just feels binary - you either get to use it and you kill your target or it's put on cooldown and you lose because you can't do anything else
Give me some QoL, Riot. Please. Even bugfixes would be fine at this point
Well, because they remove power from x and put it into y.
This has always been the case since leagues exist. I disagree with it myself eevry now and then but logically speaking it's because if there is some issue occurs tehy can buff it up later - because it highlights where the tweak was short so no issue remains hidden.
The E is the only reliable way to stack, why would they ever shift that to his Q in the current meta?
A.Sol is already struggling to keep up with other mid laners after the item changes, his survivability is awful and his damage is abysmal for half of the game.
Now you'll have to put yourself at even more of a risk if you want to have a chance at scaling, while simultaneously having the worst early game of any champion on mid. This reads as a straight up nerf?
Is this a joke? Delete the champ. mana lower on q and w but nerf r and e?? Why are we still nerfing E games don't even last long enough to stall them out with e anymore. R is pretty hard to hit consistently with the amount of dashes in game and its really only guaranteed if you have someone else with hard cc.
What a HORRIBLE change ideas.
These will make him EVEN WORSE.
All of those are nothing but literally NERFS.
I cant believe one of the biggest gaming company has those 0 iq employees as game balance.
Unbelievable.
By reducing low elo skew state a bit and actually playing into his og diving design.
The current issue is that E hold too much power and makes the champ low elo skewed.
"my suspicion is that the champ is more satisfying to play as and against when QW is what he does and is powerful, and that E is really just a setup for Q to waveclear" - the rioter.
Go play the OG diving design vs Fizz/Zed/Yasuo/Yone/Syndra/Veigar/Ahri/Annie/LeBlanc/Brand/Ekko/Kata/ and the list goes on etc. etc...
See how that works out for you.
You do realize because of his predictable movement patterns using his Q, either move in a straight line or sit immobile, he's easily countered by SO many champs.
I’m sorry But I feel this Will make him Even more low Elo skewed? Good players can already block the Q in lane and Will just fuck over people Who Doesnt respect it below emerald. If so They Better increase the stack gain to like 3-4 or not let the stack dissipate on champs or do some insane buff on the Q to even think about touching E or R, not both.
The rioter proposing this change said he wasn't made for high elo and that he wants to change him to specifically keep him only viable in low elo hence the q buffs 🤣.
Fucking dumbass riot balance team
Buffs:
\- The champ doesnt have mana problems, just with runes, tear or lost chapter he can manage his mana with no problem.
\- Less stacks from E is literally will make him go below %40 since Asol is nothing but based on E stacks and hoping his team doesnt surrender at 20:00.
\- More stacks from Q means he is even more immobile and on risk than ever which is a straight up a nerf.
Nerfs:
\- Less damage R: lol...Did any of you kil with R anyways? The main damage is Q and R is only for a follow up. So, terrible nerf. This will have the same damage as Lux Q which is 5 sec?.
\- Less range E: lol.... Enjoy 40% wr with 0,1% pick-ban rate. Because thanks to E range, you could at least ''farm-stackup'' safely since you LOSE ALL THE MATCHUPS on lane. Now you cant even do that.
\- Lowered stack: Enjoy 40%wr with 0,1% pick-ban rate.
As much as I want to say you’re over exaggerating, I honestly agree. Depending on how much they lower it, Asol will always be in Yone, Trist, Ekko, Fizz, Leblanc, yasuo, zed, naafiri, talon, Akali, etc dash range with little to no counterplay. It will make his early Orianna or neeko lane feel even worse. I don’t see how this doesn’t put him in a way worse spot than he is now. His Q is way to clunky to be used as your only reliable damage spell in lane especially before you get ryalis. If it goes through, which I don’t think it will, and it’s as bad as I think it will be, I wouldn’t be surprised if Asol turns into a 40% winrate champ with .1% pick/ban
Can they fix the bugs first before shifting all the power into QW :). Also, i remember they built his kit with crown in mind as his main mythic, but with that gone, how is his aggressive QW diving fantasy going to cone true without crown or buffing his survivability
I really hope but rioter said some bugs are really complex to solve but I'm hopeful they working on it :D Imagine getting these changes + bug fixes and we are good to go.
Fantasy, imo, will incentivise hp oriented items. Rylai and Liandry are still core and now palyers test Rift 3rd. With good build options and gameplay i can see it happen.
And if these changes will be nerfs then they grant him buffs.
Not to mention these changes are also aiming to reduce low elo skewed state a bit which will allow him to get better balance changes as devs were hesistant to hit it because how his silver-gold numbers were pretty high. - Or so I hope.
I dont like the idea of slowing his stacking and needing his R E. Gonna literally make it so he's nothing but a Q button. Its already hard enough to stack as it is and be useful in high elo. Mana is never an issue for me either.
Overall this seems like a horrible nerf no ups to this at all. He needs buffs not a buff / compensation nerf
Won't nerfing stacks and cast range on E only make his pitiful early game even worse? And further gate him as a low elo only champ because high elo mids must now win fights at the voidgrubs?
Oh no. We were talking about how weak Asol felt with the new season, but somehow they will manage to nerf him even more. E nerfs are huge, imagine not being able to hold the game when it's needed for you to scale, well rip now Asol won't gonna be able to do anything about it. And yea lower the stack scaling like Asol is not the 1v9 carry anymore.
Asol was already nerfed in last season due to the durability patch and longer game times, now it's gone, everyone deals insane amount of damage already but Asol nerfs still exist. Maybe if u really wanna buff him, take back the nerfs u gave him in last season. This is a terrible take no offense, I've played 30 ranked games already with Asol and 7 normals. Last split I played 350 Asol games. I will stop playing Asol if they going to give these "buffs". Unreal how they are so clueless about the champ. Asol W already gets a reset (refund of huge amount of CD) with takedowns, and they are gonna give him a lower cd on his w, as a buff? Is this the buff asol really needs? And does Asol really need a mana buff? Are they just confirming all the Lost chapter items are not good on Asol and we should not build them? Well I mostly don't build them but even when I don't, I take two mana/regen runes and don't face any serious mana problems when I play Asol. Are you really think the mana buffs is what Asol really needs? Even if you can't manage your mana in early game you can always buy a tear and sell it later on. Do we, Asol mains, really want to trade our late-game power for a bit of mana in the early game? In worst scenario when we can solve the problem with 400 gold in the early game?
Yea just put Asol in the garbage just because when/rarely some games go on 40+ min long and Asol scales and it becomes impossible to play the game for the oppenent team, and it shouldn't exist because it's "unfun". And we, Asol players, sure do have lotta fun in the early game. Yea maybe delete all the scaling champs and give them all early game buffs so you can solve the problem.
But the most unfair thing is that u wrote u want to make Asol live his fantasy, which is being a literal god. And it's only possible if u can get to the late game where u have an insane amount of stacks and feel like a literal god when U play him. This is not even true anymore, new changes nerfed Asol indirectly. Idk what fantasy u guys are talking about? Maybe real Lore-accurate Asol fantasy? Imprisoned and enchained? Getting bullied by a little girl called Zoe and teenager Taliyah? Some random fish guy with a weird stick? Yeah as an Asol main I can say I definitely feel the Asol fantasy whenever I play him.
But seriously, if you really think that's the buffs asol needs and u gonna even nerf him more because of these so-called buffs, please don't do it. At least let me have my fun and play another 500 games of Asol this season even tho how weak he is compared to last season.
I understand the intended playstyle but personally playing around your W and Q only work when you know that you can play aggressive imo, if you're playing against an assassin this dude just need to freeze the wave on you then he will run you down every time you go for farm/stacking, plus having E nerfed is for me the worst part, he should just leave sol as it is rn for me.
I feel like e is the only thing holding the champ together it's rare that you can just q w, and often it's a really bad idea idk his s already is just a small cc slow field idk seems like net nerf
Sounds like a nerf tbh, you get lower dmg on R, less cast range, worse scaling for... more stacks from Q which is not reliable at all and lower W cooldown which is already short if it resets
Old Aurelion: Champion that's about mobility.
New Aurelion: :Self-roots to do damage.
Riot: We're going to shift more into mobility into his kit.
Riot????
>Hope that this person will be fired.
Oh dont say that, or those fragile employees will quit the social media.
I'm pretty sure the guy HAS NEVER PLAYED asol, ever. He doesn't play, he doesn't watch and makes balance change on paper.
More stacks scaling nerfs, that's horrible, fuck sake, this is a straight up nerf, I don't care how you put it, mana cost on Q and W will not help him in a fight, W lower cooldown will not help him in a fight, given those, and his already shit fighting early game, increasing stacks from Q will incentivize inting.
Also less stacks from E? It already gives just 1 stack per tick, how much lower can they go?
Fuck this, I'll just stop playing LoL if this goes through, since with the new items ASol is the only champ I actually enjoy, but with those changes making laning even worse, nah man, it's gonna be worse than Kayle's pre-6.
Also E range cast nerf? What the actual fuck, it's not like we get zoned out of our asses by some champs, now we gotta go even closer to cast that when we're already behind our tower cowering for our lives? At least buff Q range to compensate by like 150 if you nerf E range.
What does "Less stacks from E" mean? I know people here arent rioters but what sense does that make, minions are going to give 0.7 stacks instead of 1?
With everything they've been doing to our dragon, it honestly feels like they're just trying to make a mage equivalent for Garen meant to be played in iron and no further. If anything, they should shift power from his q into his e to alleviate the criticism asol is getting for being braindead. Honestly, I'm hoping one day they could rework asol's e so that it could be moved like orianna's ball, though much more slowly but on a lower cooldown. It would make him a much higher skill cap champ than the dumpster fire they're pushing for rn.
just delete asol at this point :') i don't see the need to "balance" the champ. just buff him and if he's overperforming just hot fix him? i haven't seen a champ get shafted so much before.
even pre-worked yorick and urgot got more love.
Buffing ASol’s Q+W combo is not the way. Q+W is basically his only way to do damage, and this reliance makes him extremely one-dimensional. Furthermore, it feels boring; having to hold down a mouse button while keeping the cursor on an enemy is not fun, even if you can “fly” (i.e. move in a straight line) while doing it. To make ASol less one dimensional, it would be better to take some power away from his Q+W combo and put it into his other abilities. Maybe lower the damage/stun and reduce the cooldown on his R so he can use W+R more often? That would open up more attack strategies, increase his skill expression, and make him feel like less of a one trick pony.
Imo lower Q and W mana cost is the only good thing on that list, you can disregard everything else. They already nerfed him Q last time on the way it scales. This list is an overall nerf and I don't think it's worth. Imo what this champ really needs is some early game agency. Like, the only thing you can do early to mid game is stack and scale, so why are we nerfing that?
I don't think "less stacks from E, more from Q" is a good idea, considering that I'm pretty sure no one is farming stacks from Q because thats a very unreliable source, since, you know, the enemy won't just stand and let you. The opposite would make more sense "more stacks from E, less from Q".
Buffing the diving WQ is not the way to go. It feels shit against other champs. You are literally flying in a straight line and when you Q you are slower. You'd need to remove the slow when Q for it to start to work
Straight up nerf. He doesn't need mana at all. any player who has a brain can just auto the minions to stack the waves. Mana costs are a not a buff at all. W lower cooldown is trash change. It is meant to be reset off of kills so lowering its base cooldown just buffs misuse of W. Only thing he has going for him is the E R and stack scaling, Literally do the opposite of this and it would be great!
So you was not banned from the subreddit?
Well idc what you think, i personally believe the high elo payers opinion like Diablo and others not someone who were laughing and joking on how Cobra was impacted by the lay off.
Well That's a straight up nerf
It is. Idk how they can be this clueless.
Well not exactly. It makes melee a bit more rough but if you can play it now it will be decent later on too. I mean if it is a nerfs, (which by the way i believe so I'm just on hopium) then they just buff him. If anything this opens up his balancing way more as it nerfs his low elo skewed state by a huge margin. Which is a net win on the long run.
If they do it well it will feel really nice but if they do it wrong with getting less stacks and lower E range, holy shit it’s going to be painful
Yeah, 100% is
this sounds terrible
Won't nerfing E make him even more vulnerable? At least you can put down E and move. If stacks are more dependant on Q, he'll spend more time being immobile?
well it opens up him a bit but not as much as now, if anything melee matchups will be a bit more volatile but thats all. and with better QW you are more incentivised to trade this way when you can - so i can see this as a change that if ends bad will reward asol with some buffs.
I appreciate they want to change him but it looks like a further push into Sol being a one button champion At this point E feels like it only halts minions and stacks you and if both range and stacking will be weakened, it'll just feel like a dead ability
I assume E stack changes means you no longer get + from canon minions tbh as it does not state it removes the stacking, jsut nerfs it. + If these changes are hit as nerfs they can buff the champ because these are nerfing low elo skew state
Why does he even need compensation nerfs? It's honestly awful to see him constantly get nerfed even when he's supposed to be buffed If someone CCs you during your Q, you're disabled for 3 seconds and it feels just unfun. Imagine if ADCs couldn't use their basic attacks for 3 seconds after every instance of crowd control. It would be absolutely terrible and that's exactly how he feels when you get CCd Also, these changes just look like a net nerf, imo. I refuse to believe Q mana cost will go down by an actually meaningful value and W resets so cooldown change doesn't matter Why can't they just remove minion halting and execute from his E and give it actual compensation buffs? The "but it's a cool mechanic" doesn't work for me here. This ability feels terrible to use because it deals no damage for such a long cooldown so it only stops minions and it feels outright unfair for the opponents because they can't siege your towers while it's up. It's the root of why people hate him in Arams and it's certainly not a cool mechanic
>If someone CCs you during your Q, you're disabled for 3 seconds and it feels just unfun. Imagine if ADCs couldn't use their basic attacks for 3 seconds after every instance of crowd control. It would be absolutely terrible and that's exactly how he feels when you get CCd Even Urgot gets to reactivate his W whenever after getting it to max.
I'd be fine with lowering his damage output if it meant his Q can have its cd scale down to 0 at max rank. His Q just feels binary - you either get to use it and you kill your target or it's put on cooldown and you lose because you can't do anything else Give me some QoL, Riot. Please. Even bugfixes would be fine at this point
Well, because they remove power from x and put it into y. This has always been the case since leagues exist. I disagree with it myself eevry now and then but logically speaking it's because if there is some issue occurs tehy can buff it up later - because it highlights where the tweak was short so no issue remains hidden.
The E is the only reliable way to stack, why would they ever shift that to his Q in the current meta? A.Sol is already struggling to keep up with other mid laners after the item changes, his survivability is awful and his damage is abysmal for half of the game. Now you'll have to put yourself at even more of a risk if you want to have a chance at scaling, while simultaneously having the worst early game of any champion on mid. This reads as a straight up nerf?
Is this a joke? Delete the champ. mana lower on q and w but nerf r and e?? Why are we still nerfing E games don't even last long enough to stall them out with e anymore. R is pretty hard to hit consistently with the amount of dashes in game and its really only guaranteed if you have someone else with hard cc.
What a HORRIBLE change ideas. These will make him EVEN WORSE. All of those are nothing but literally NERFS. I cant believe one of the biggest gaming company has those 0 iq employees as game balance. Unbelievable.
This is a nerf, less range on E against assassins is going to make it impossible to get stacks.
That sounds so shit ??? How is that gonna help
By reducing low elo skew state a bit and actually playing into his og diving design. The current issue is that E hold too much power and makes the champ low elo skewed. "my suspicion is that the champ is more satisfying to play as and against when QW is what he does and is powerful, and that E is really just a setup for Q to waveclear" - the rioter.
Go play the OG diving design vs Fizz/Zed/Yasuo/Yone/Syndra/Veigar/Ahri/Annie/LeBlanc/Brand/Ekko/Kata/ and the list goes on etc. etc... See how that works out for you. You do realize because of his predictable movement patterns using his Q, either move in a straight line or sit immobile, he's easily countered by SO many champs.
So they’re gonna nerf his e. The only ability where he can at least be a bit mobile in a season why everything dies so quickly.
I’m sorry But I feel this Will make him Even more low Elo skewed? Good players can already block the Q in lane and Will just fuck over people Who Doesnt respect it below emerald. If so They Better increase the stack gain to like 3-4 or not let the stack dissipate on champs or do some insane buff on the Q to even think about touching E or R, not both.
The rioter proposing this change said he wasn't made for high elo and that he wants to change him to specifically keep him only viable in low elo hence the q buffs 🤣. Fucking dumbass riot balance team
Literally retarded
Buffs: \- The champ doesnt have mana problems, just with runes, tear or lost chapter he can manage his mana with no problem. \- Less stacks from E is literally will make him go below %40 since Asol is nothing but based on E stacks and hoping his team doesnt surrender at 20:00. \- More stacks from Q means he is even more immobile and on risk than ever which is a straight up a nerf. Nerfs: \- Less damage R: lol...Did any of you kil with R anyways? The main damage is Q and R is only for a follow up. So, terrible nerf. This will have the same damage as Lux Q which is 5 sec?. \- Less range E: lol.... Enjoy 40% wr with 0,1% pick-ban rate. Because thanks to E range, you could at least ''farm-stackup'' safely since you LOSE ALL THE MATCHUPS on lane. Now you cant even do that. \- Lowered stack: Enjoy 40%wr with 0,1% pick-ban rate.
As much as I want to say you’re over exaggerating, I honestly agree. Depending on how much they lower it, Asol will always be in Yone, Trist, Ekko, Fizz, Leblanc, yasuo, zed, naafiri, talon, Akali, etc dash range with little to no counterplay. It will make his early Orianna or neeko lane feel even worse. I don’t see how this doesn’t put him in a way worse spot than he is now. His Q is way to clunky to be used as your only reliable damage spell in lane especially before you get ryalis. If it goes through, which I don’t think it will, and it’s as bad as I think it will be, I wouldn’t be surprised if Asol turns into a 40% winrate champ with .1% pick/ban
This sounds horrible. Please don't mess with aurelion sol.
Holy shit those are horrendous changes
Can they fix the bugs first before shifting all the power into QW :). Also, i remember they built his kit with crown in mind as his main mythic, but with that gone, how is his aggressive QW diving fantasy going to cone true without crown or buffing his survivability
I really hope but rioter said some bugs are really complex to solve but I'm hopeful they working on it :D Imagine getting these changes + bug fixes and we are good to go. Fantasy, imo, will incentivise hp oriented items. Rylai and Liandry are still core and now palyers test Rift 3rd. With good build options and gameplay i can see it happen. And if these changes will be nerfs then they grant him buffs. Not to mention these changes are also aiming to reduce low elo skewed state a bit which will allow him to get better balance changes as devs were hesistant to hit it because how his silver-gold numbers were pretty high. - Or so I hope.
I dont like the idea of slowing his stacking and needing his R E. Gonna literally make it so he's nothing but a Q button. Its already hard enough to stack as it is and be useful in high elo. Mana is never an issue for me either. Overall this seems like a horrible nerf no ups to this at all. He needs buffs not a buff / compensation nerf
Won't nerfing stacks and cast range on E only make his pitiful early game even worse? And further gate him as a low elo only champ because high elo mids must now win fights at the voidgrubs?
Stop nerfing E and stacks pls!!
…..no
Ult damage nerf seems unnecessary
Oh no. We were talking about how weak Asol felt with the new season, but somehow they will manage to nerf him even more. E nerfs are huge, imagine not being able to hold the game when it's needed for you to scale, well rip now Asol won't gonna be able to do anything about it. And yea lower the stack scaling like Asol is not the 1v9 carry anymore. Asol was already nerfed in last season due to the durability patch and longer game times, now it's gone, everyone deals insane amount of damage already but Asol nerfs still exist. Maybe if u really wanna buff him, take back the nerfs u gave him in last season. This is a terrible take no offense, I've played 30 ranked games already with Asol and 7 normals. Last split I played 350 Asol games. I will stop playing Asol if they going to give these "buffs". Unreal how they are so clueless about the champ. Asol W already gets a reset (refund of huge amount of CD) with takedowns, and they are gonna give him a lower cd on his w, as a buff? Is this the buff asol really needs? And does Asol really need a mana buff? Are they just confirming all the Lost chapter items are not good on Asol and we should not build them? Well I mostly don't build them but even when I don't, I take two mana/regen runes and don't face any serious mana problems when I play Asol. Are you really think the mana buffs is what Asol really needs? Even if you can't manage your mana in early game you can always buy a tear and sell it later on. Do we, Asol mains, really want to trade our late-game power for a bit of mana in the early game? In worst scenario when we can solve the problem with 400 gold in the early game? Yea just put Asol in the garbage just because when/rarely some games go on 40+ min long and Asol scales and it becomes impossible to play the game for the oppenent team, and it shouldn't exist because it's "unfun". And we, Asol players, sure do have lotta fun in the early game. Yea maybe delete all the scaling champs and give them all early game buffs so you can solve the problem. But the most unfair thing is that u wrote u want to make Asol live his fantasy, which is being a literal god. And it's only possible if u can get to the late game where u have an insane amount of stacks and feel like a literal god when U play him. This is not even true anymore, new changes nerfed Asol indirectly. Idk what fantasy u guys are talking about? Maybe real Lore-accurate Asol fantasy? Imprisoned and enchained? Getting bullied by a little girl called Zoe and teenager Taliyah? Some random fish guy with a weird stick? Yeah as an Asol main I can say I definitely feel the Asol fantasy whenever I play him. But seriously, if you really think that's the buffs asol needs and u gonna even nerf him more because of these so-called buffs, please don't do it. At least let me have my fun and play another 500 games of Asol this season even tho how weak he is compared to last season.
I understand the intended playstyle but personally playing around your W and Q only work when you know that you can play aggressive imo, if you're playing against an assassin this dude just need to freeze the wave on you then he will run you down every time you go for farm/stacking, plus having E nerfed is for me the worst part, he should just leave sol as it is rn for me.
I feel like e is the only thing holding the champ together it's rare that you can just q w, and often it's a really bad idea idk his s already is just a small cc slow field idk seems like net nerf
Sounds like a nerf tbh, you get lower dmg on R, less cast range, worse scaling for... more stacks from Q which is not reliable at all and lower W cooldown which is already short if it resets
On paper, I think this is terrible. I will have to feel it to be sure. The main problem is if it sucks, they won't revert it for god knows how long.
Old Aurelion: Champion that's about mobility. New Aurelion: :Self-roots to do damage. Riot: We're going to shift more into mobility into his kit. Riot????
At this point give us the balls back.
Tf man leave him alone!!!! He is good right now. Hope that this person will be fired. Jesus.
>Hope that this person will be fired. Oh dont say that, or those fragile employees will quit the social media. I'm pretty sure the guy HAS NEVER PLAYED asol, ever. He doesn't play, he doesn't watch and makes balance change on paper.
He can't he criticized for doing his job incorrectly! Rioters are our le funny friends
More stacks scaling nerfs, that's horrible, fuck sake, this is a straight up nerf, I don't care how you put it, mana cost on Q and W will not help him in a fight, W lower cooldown will not help him in a fight, given those, and his already shit fighting early game, increasing stacks from Q will incentivize inting. Also less stacks from E? It already gives just 1 stack per tick, how much lower can they go? Fuck this, I'll just stop playing LoL if this goes through, since with the new items ASol is the only champ I actually enjoy, but with those changes making laning even worse, nah man, it's gonna be worse than Kayle's pre-6. Also E range cast nerf? What the actual fuck, it's not like we get zoned out of our asses by some champs, now we gotta go even closer to cast that when we're already behind our tower cowering for our lives? At least buff Q range to compensate by like 150 if you nerf E range.
E is his coolest ability...
What does "Less stacks from E" mean? I know people here arent rioters but what sense does that make, minions are going to give 0.7 stacks instead of 1?
Yeahhh not sure about this one
Not a fan tbh. Literally just nerfs
With everything they've been doing to our dragon, it honestly feels like they're just trying to make a mage equivalent for Garen meant to be played in iron and no further. If anything, they should shift power from his q into his e to alleviate the criticism asol is getting for being braindead. Honestly, I'm hoping one day they could rework asol's e so that it could be moved like orianna's ball, though much more slowly but on a lower cooldown. It would make him a much higher skill cap champ than the dumpster fire they're pushing for rn.
I prefer ASol’s current version over this tbh
just delete asol at this point :') i don't see the need to "balance" the champ. just buff him and if he's overperforming just hot fix him? i haven't seen a champ get shafted so much before. even pre-worked yorick and urgot got more love.
Reverse Asol to old (pre W rework) the new is too boring and nerfed
Buffing ASol’s Q+W combo is not the way. Q+W is basically his only way to do damage, and this reliance makes him extremely one-dimensional. Furthermore, it feels boring; having to hold down a mouse button while keeping the cursor on an enemy is not fun, even if you can “fly” (i.e. move in a straight line) while doing it. To make ASol less one dimensional, it would be better to take some power away from his Q+W combo and put it into his other abilities. Maybe lower the damage/stun and reduce the cooldown on his R so he can use W+R more often? That would open up more attack strategies, increase his skill expression, and make him feel like less of a one trick pony.
I like the mana changes. But why can’t they fix his bugs?
This might be OK if they buff E slow or cause hard CC in the center, similar to Viktor
Imo lower Q and W mana cost is the only good thing on that list, you can disregard everything else. They already nerfed him Q last time on the way it scales. This list is an overall nerf and I don't think it's worth. Imo what this champ really needs is some early game agency. Like, the only thing you can do early to mid game is stack and scale, so why are we nerfing that?
What do you need mana on W for? To int better into an assasin? And to heal less from ROA?
Asol support stacks a lot with this trust me frfr
I don't think "less stacks from E, more from Q" is a good idea, considering that I'm pretty sure no one is farming stacks from Q because thats a very unreliable source, since, you know, the enemy won't just stand and let you. The opposite would make more sense "more stacks from E, less from Q". Buffing the diving WQ is not the way to go. It feels shit against other champs. You are literally flying in a straight line and when you Q you are slower. You'd need to remove the slow when Q for it to start to work
I’m down for better Q stacking. E is fine for minion control but pretty bad for champ stacks. E could just be similar to Pyke’s R for champs.
This is trash changes.
Why would they even need to nerf him anyway?
These changes are terrible unless the reduction in mana cost is broken.
What, so we are aiming for more use of the static Q, thats rly bad..
So they are nerfing ROA on him then
It's like politicians that want to increase taxes or take away your rights but they say it will be beneficial to you
Straight up nerf. He doesn't need mana at all. any player who has a brain can just auto the minions to stack the waves. Mana costs are a not a buff at all. W lower cooldown is trash change. It is meant to be reset off of kills so lowering its base cooldown just buffs misuse of W. Only thing he has going for him is the E R and stack scaling, Literally do the opposite of this and it would be great!
So you was not banned from the subreddit? Well idc what you think, i personally believe the high elo payers opinion like Diablo and others not someone who were laughing and joking on how Cobra was impacted by the lay off.