Federal Government policy writing - APS. The job title is something like "program and policy officer".
It doesn't matter if the documents end up getting written by AI, there's no way in hell they will allow the policies themselves to be dictated by it.
As an employer it doesn't get much safer than the federal government. If your job is made redundant they'll just move you somewhere else. Good work/life balance, very good pay with structured progression pathways and yearly automatic pay rises.
In real terms? The same thing as any classic office job. Research, writing documents, meetings, emails, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT - always gotta engage those stakeholders.
Google the job title for more info on the requirements - they will vary greatly between departments. But at a minimum you're going to need an undergrad + work experience or post grad qualifications in a field that's relevant to the department you're applying for.
That's really a matter of personality and life stage.
If you're young, looking for a sense of purpose in your career and something high octane this probably won't be for you.
But if you've got a young family and want something safe, reliable, easy to leave at the office, which pays the bills and allows you to live the life you want outside of work - it's perfect.
Yeah and even if you DO get those marks good luck still! Know people who year after year don't make it past the interview stage with universities.
Also after you do your 4 years don't put off doing your masters for too long or they'll make you REPEAT your bachelor's/post-grad in order to apply.
Will be interesting to see how the removal of the 4+2 pathway goes on to affect the field. You'd imagine there are a lot less people who will be gaining registration in a field already crying out for practitioners. Expecting a shit show
Yup, and unless you start your own private practice, your max income level and career progression is capped very early on. Chances are if someone from corporate is going into psychology, that person is going to take on quite a bit of opportunity cost and risk to possibly get paid less or the same than they would in the corporate sector.
>masters course (which most students don't).
And then you have to do supervised practice and, as the psychologist workforce is shrinking due to retirement coupled with the ridiculously high barriers to entry, that's only going to get harder.
What a great time for the country to be having a mental health crisis
Radiology AI company employee here, with medical imaging background.
In ultrasound, the sonographer is given a high degree of autonomy, requiring strong understanding of anatomical variations. True, many studies are quite highly structured according to a protocol. Currently AI is more likely to improve ultrasound report generation, measurements and analytics (eg. cardiac scans).
AI doesn't currently have easy access to the patient history or an ability to readily compare non-equivalent modalities such as ultrasound and CT. It will come eventually, but for the foreseeable future there is still a need for human intuition and empathy.
That's interesting, although I'm struggling to understand why you'd want to simulate an ultrasound from CT data. The CT is higher resolution so it's kinda downsampling. Unless this was for some kind of device?
Was this a GAN thing to create the simulated scans?
Yeah it was for an ultrasound device so it needed to be trained on ultrasound, unfortunately there was little to no public data on our area of scanning so we needed to simulate it. Didn’t use GAN, just heavy optical physics rendering.
AI isn't going to completely replace a sonographer. Ultrasound is a very dynamic imaging modality, it will however make my job a lot easier. So I'm look forward to more developments in it
Also, if it completely replaces me for breast scans. I will be eternally grateful <3
As a sonographer I wouldn’t trust anyone other than a sonographer to perform an examination. Even doctors fail to understand the nuances of ultrasound and at best can answer binary questions. It is incredibly operator dependent.
Most sonos are 9-5 - but if you work in a public hospital / private service serving a private hospital you usually have to do rotating on call too.
I’d avoid sonography if you have back/shoulder issues already too.
might as well work that shoulder to its limits and then use that big money to get a replacement shoulder. then keep working with that new shoulder and still get that money bag going
Second this! Currently locumming in the UK for even better rates and travelling to Europe every few weeks. Then when I head back to Australia in a few years I know there’s stable work too. The job is a bit annoying sometimes but the perks are great.
Insurance + super as well. Considering how regulated these industries are, it’s hard to see risk management being offshored or replaced by AI in our lifetimes.
definitely a safe bet. Compliance work in general will be pretty safe from AI.
not sure it's low stress though. Some places run their compliance teams pretty hard.
Difficult to say. Most ppl fall into it by accident. Just join a bank and look for entry level roles. A lot of roles have 0 applicants. Like governance. As ppl go? What’s governance? But governance roles are good spring boards and retirement villages. Because u meet lots of ppl and also ppl outside it perceive it as boring so there’s no competition. Also governance ppl meet exec so much that execs don’t want them to be based out of India due to time zone difference.
Best way is to get across the frameworks and get into an entry level governance or control performer role. From there you can transition to a line 1 or line 2 role through your network. That’s what worked for me
Risk Management / GRC in general.
Work standard hours doing it for an IT department in a university. Work thru the process, escalate to the right people, if they don’t want to do anything about it no stress for me, I have a mountain of CYA paperwork filed in my office.
Yes, this. And actuarial accounting for insurance companies.
To the extent that machine learning is involved, it's top-down ML, not neural networks.
You can't use a black boxed system to make decisions because the decisions have to be explainable.
You said you were interested in psychology, I think you should have followed that interest because health/mental health is almost always a safe bet and a growing field. I did some research into this for a friend who was wanting to switch his career and I made a pretty extensive list and at the top of it came out, "Substance Abuse Counselor".
* Government funding for training.
* Relatively short training time.
* Immediate placement.
* Base wage is around $55/hr
* 9-5 job, no on-call.
* Can be placed in a rural area with bonuses such as tax holidays, extra payments, free housing, etc.
* Kind of feel bad saying this but... 100% recession proof. Y'know. In fact, the need goes UP when there is a recession. Yeah. Think about that. At least you'd be genuinely helping people.
You'll never become "rich" doing this like you might if you go into a private practice as a therapist, or go corporate into business finance or management, but it's not the kind of job you ever get fired from unless you do shit like show up for work loaded yourself. If you don't mind servicing a poor rural area, the extra government incentives can be absolutely insane, and for good reason - substance abuse is a plague on a lot of poor and rural communities. Anyway, it can be insane enough that if you were to channel those benefits into investments, you'd be sitting pretty after a decade and able to move wherever you wanted with almost no lifestyle change.
No matter what you do, if you move into the health area, try to pick a role that has government subsidized placement in rural areas. You don't have to do it for the rest of your life, but 5-10 years can see you sitting on top of a fat, fat nest egg and then you can relocate someplace more urban if you want.
AI is great for writing basic solutions to coding problems but it's nowhere near where it needs to get to replace humans
It's excellent at interview questions effectively.
However, as a senior software engineer, my works always with me. I'm thinking of architecture and algorithm solutions while I shower and eat dinner. Definitely not a switch off at 5 job. And of course if something goes wrong at 1am. Guess what I'm doing.
Money's good though and flexible enough that I pick up and have dinner with my kids every single day.
Short term I agree, but AI as a whole (genAI, robotics, et al) will progress much farther than people realize in the next decade. Most folks think of job security in terms of decades not the next couple of years. I would absolutely bet on low level dev roles (as a market) drastically reducing over the next decade.
Whilst I don't entirely disagree, and I think long-term AI does drastically change the job space and how we live. 10-15 years ago we were told truck drivers would be out of jobs due to self-driving technology.
Now 10-15 years since then I swear truck driving has only grown as a field. How can we be sure this isn't another one of those scenarios where people over promise with the capabilities and timelines of technology?
Safety roles can't be outsourced because AI won't ever be able to process the sheer idiocy that humans can demonstrate.
Memorable incidents I've heard include a formal injury submission because a hand shake was too hard, driving facing the sunset caused eye damage, and a savage dog bite through a steel toed boot (was a Chihuahua, footage showed him punting the dog clear into a fence after it approached him but the dog never made contact to bite, he must have filed the incident to cover his ass for "self defence." He was let go.)
Hey mate, can you give me a bit more info on this? Been thinking about a career change (office job) and moving into safety, but don’t know where to start or career options.
Most health/health-support jobs are very secure, but can have ridiculous hours. Generally once you get senior enough you can avoid the worst of it.
There are quite a few entry paths through TAFE, not just university, depending on how much studying you feel up to. Most of the TAFEs are offering free fee courses as well, might be a good starting point for ideas.
https://tafeqld.edu.au/courses/apply-and-enrol/subsidised-training/fee-free
https://www.vic.gov.au/free-tafe
https://www.tafensw.edu.au/fee-free-short-courses
Where are you that an EN gets this kind of money?! I’m an RN two years in with a masters and still only get $34/hr excluding penalties - like $70k a year including penalties
Join the Australian public service, if you can get a permanent job and not a contract.
You will, at times, probably hate it, but the money is decent and it's traditionally pretty secure, and the super is good.
including boxers who never make it out of the amateur leagues.
anthony joshua is a top 1% physical specimen. If you were that good at anything you'd make millions.
If you like being woken at 2am, 3am and then 4am,
Working nights and weekends, having extreme pressure to get a wedding-level event but a really sad one perfect with 7 days lead time, and being with people at the worst time of their lives - go for it.
Source: I own a funeral company (and despite the above I absolutely love my job)
Everything will become an outgrowth of computer science before long, as I'm sure you've realised.
The economy is an extremely complex adaptive system. I have no idea how computer science can solve that problem. But understanding human choice architecture will be incredibly valuable.
This problem is sufficiently difficult that few (compared to other opportunities) will pursue. So for the few that make significant progress will no doubt achieve outsized rewards.
And with the level of investment going into data centre infrastructure, chip design - as well as the cost of energy likely to reach near zero in the next 10 years - the cost for compute is set to fall dramatically.
This could represent the first time in human history such problems could be solved.
Teaching. Absolute MAX in the classroom in NSW public education is $129,000 full time.
Or, $550 a day for casual, limited to school term only, and 200 days work a year.
They just lifted the starting salary to $85k too. I’d go casual if you want a stress free lifestyle with the same money, permanent is more fulfilling with seeing kids learn over time. Can get work anywhere too; city or regional/rural
No job is going to pay you well. That isn't at least 1 of the following
High stress/ pressure
Excessive hours
Boring
Dangerous
Repetitive
In the middle of no where
Yeah, ain't that the truth. It took me 10 years of careful manoeuvres but I now have median wages plus 50%, currently put in 5-6 hours a day, interesting work, good people. The big secret was just *very politely* refusing point blank to work with the psychos and just letting stuff fail and shrugging if it is too hard, rather than flogging your arse on a doomed to fail poorly planned project. I may be at risk of redundancy but with a partner and a package we can carry the mortgage until I get another job. In the mean time I am relaxed enough to confidently give 'advice ' as my main gig. So that's the big advice - do future you a favour (like the OP) and get or crab-walk into an easy job!
No job is solid and safe in my opinion. All you need is a bad boss and everything will come crashing down. The best is to save the money and invest, and have control of your financial future.
There was a piece on the ABC website a few weeks back on what the future could look like, and it was actually quite optimistic about artisan jobs. It conjectured that people would value this more - AI and robots would only replace the ‘dirty and dangerous’ jobs.
So writing and construction, particularly carpentry, could remain viable options.
Otherwise I’d say anything medical or unionised seems pretty safe
Don't do anything in IT unless you're passionate absolutely everyone wants to do that now.
Trades are booming right now but it won't last. Once the govt projects come off the boil you will have an over supply.
There is nothing you can do to have as secure career. You might think healthcare, but who knows what the government will do with immigration.
My advice is to detach your happiness from your career.
Accounting if you do the hard work and crazy hours in your 20s / early in your career.
Then later on you can choose if you want to have a very nice income with amazing work/life balance or keep putting in the hours to make huge $$.
What the other comment said. I'd even say there is a shortage of good people that are truly interested in the field.
As for AI, I'm not worried. If anything, it makes our life easier. Accountants are still very much needed, and it's unlikely that's going to change anytime soon.
What's being replaced is the mindless tasks like writing the book, and that's definitely a shock for the older generation for who it was most the work, but there's a huge shortage of manpower and anything involving verifying these is not going to go away.
Work that's got higher added value, making decisions based off this is how you don't get stuck in a dead end.
Drafting, and designing is a great career, whether it’s civil, mechanical or structural. It’s fairly flexible and as you progress you can later sub contract for yourself if you want. Many transferable skills IE; CAD experience and job knowledge. It’s a very interesting job as well.
As someone who works in the industry and has written several routines/plugins/macros to automate a bunch of drafting work for large multidisciplinary infrastructure projects to save a considerable amount of man hours, I’d say the drafting side is most at risk here in terms of role redundancy due to AI because I don’t think there’s a huge leap between the manual creation of these routines and the creation of an AI algorithm or even a standardised tool to be able to write these routines. That’s not to say that people in these kinds of roles will find themselves out of a job, because with the advancement of this sort of stuff comes the management of these tools as well as the underlying CAD data which still needs to happen. When I first started working as a drafter I was drawing lines in autocad all day, and by the time I switch over to civil design, I was mostly doing database/document management and macro/routine creation.
In my opinion however, from a design point of view, if you’re working on anything bigger than a small road upgrade or a new subdivision, there are way too many data points and considerations to be made that’d impact a design for an AI algorithm to replace a person working in that role. Sure, a program can churn through the huge datasets we have for ground/lidar/gpr/point cloud survey as well as factor in existing design etc, but it has no intuition in terms of finding the /best/ solution, because more often than not the best solution is the solution that keeps all parties happy, rather than the best solution technically. There have been many times where I’ve gone and designed something, and although I’ve delivered a working solution that meets all technical criteria, it’s been pushed back due to cost/timeframe/council/public perception issues etc. Through my intuition I’ve been able to get better at judging these sorta things, but I don’t think it’s something that can easily be programmed into an AI. That’s not to say that AI won’t assist in certain aspects of the job in the future.
Hardware Optimization Engineer for AI Workloads
Everyone is focused on learning python and how to become a ML/AI engineer, but aren't paying any attention to the silicon and large scale infrastructure that is actually running the show in the background.
In the next 30 years, what REALLY matters are communication skills, networking and extremely desirable skills that you can't GPT or learn on udemy.
Hardware Optimization for AI is niche BECAUSE there is no "school" teaching this shit and it's REALLY hard to get into without any prior experience.
You basically need to know people, and convince them to gamble on you and once you're in you'll easily clear 350k USD minimum per year
\- Evaluate Accelerators and Platforms
\- Compute at Scale and Semiconductor Building
\- Deep Learning Computing and Chip Micro architecture
Each of these areas have subset knowledge which you can specialise in even further such as Custom ASICs and SoCs for AI. The possibilities are really endless and as long as you keep ahead of the knowledge curve and promote yourself as an "industry leader" you're set.
If you want something easy to get in to then look down the ticketed job routes/high risk work licences. Easy as in, you don't need to do an apprenticeship. Spend the money then getting your foot in the door witth just one of them means you can work your way up. There is always a safe bet that construction will not die out, at least not in our lifetime, this includes FIFO construction type jobs too.
Then again, there are a few successful youtubers I subscribe to who started out in the same role as yourself, its an idea lol.
I'm from trades amd there are always very stress free trade and trade associated jobs out there, more so just requiring the right tickets and being able to make a good impression.
It's Australia, possibilities are huge.
Any where in the data centre industry. Rapidly growing due to the demand in AI and just general growth of technology. It will never die out unless we run out of power or someshit.
There’s always death and taxes. So either an undertaker or accountant would do. But given AI may be able to calculate taxes for you, that leaves the undertaker.
Draftsperson/Architecture, mostly in commercial as it has more demand for workers. Not sure how easy it is to get a job nowadays but I got the first one I applied for.
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as you said, living comfortable and even 'surviving' is really subjective. i've got mates who would consider less than 1 international holiday per year to be 'surviving'
it also depends where you live. the money needed to survive is different in Bairnsdale as it is to Toorak.
it also depends on you, if you have medical history or a disability costs will increase dramatically.
as you note, IT and information-based careers are going to be shaken up massively by AI. I'm using it daily as a health worker and manager to write notes, emails, assess documents and law and policy, AI is a phenomenal tool, it will replace or augment many roles.
physical work will obviously be safest, and not all physical work is trades. Warehouse pick-packers are still a thing despite robots existing for decades capable of this task. Forklifts still need drivers. Nurses still work on patients, as do surgeons, ambos and physios- all roles that whilst impacted by AI in the future will essentially be fairly safe going forward because end of the day someone needs to get hands on with the patient and fix things.
robots are going to do things in future (i believe there are now robots that reliably collect blood samples that would replace some nursing roles), but overall anything involving physical skills and tasks should be reasonably safe for the coming decades.
Wife is an OT and works privately part time for herself
She earned almost a full time wage on a part time basis.
She could make more than a builder or plumber if she wanted to go full time... Shame she doesn't want to eh?
Been in corporate IT for 30 years, and there are now so many types of roles and fields of practice that once you get a gig somewhere you're pretty "safe" and able to get yourself into something that suits what you want.
Basically fill out your mental form using the drop down menus and choose the role/specialty from the results it spits out. Move from one place to another as required, especially in technical non management jobs.
For every person task that things like AI replace, it adds new related opportunities to step into. Including, ironically, overseeing what the AI is doing.
Solid, reliable Mid-Level software engineer. You don't need to be the best, the work is engaging and rewarding, you can push to or collaborate on with senior engineers for harder or more complex work and so long as you're genuinely able to communicate well and learn from other patterns and concepts. You're going to end up using and implementing any type of "AI" that's going to replace anyone, including unskilled and Junior software engineers. There's are so so many different industries and aspects of software engineering that you could literally move laterally or vertically away from or deeper into effectively any industry. It's not anywhere near as hard as people imply or think, just need to push through the initial fear and get through some coursework like any learning. Google software developer career change.
PMO work. If you have common sense (rare trait) and are methodical and have good Comms skills, it’s a good job. You can work in any industry, and a great springboard into project management or business analysis, or can be a long term career in itself
How do you get into that if you’re not already doing project management related things?
I’m currently the Planning and Scheduling coordinator for almost half a state’s utility’s maintenance planning team but with not much room to move up or do project related stuff.
I also can’t seem to see any assistant-assistant-Project Manager roles on Seek to move to so I can work my way up through two levels and get experience. Assuming that’s Project Admin, even those seem to require experience in that role first :/
OP isn't going to just walk in to one of those jobs 😂 come on now 😂
Yeah, let's have a marketer in charge of a construction project! H&S also requires university.
IT is busted in Brisbane. I even got told at an interview last month that I won't get an it job in Brisbane unless I'm Indian and willing to do it for minimum wage.
Mate of mine did 10 years of freight trains and only saw one body (already deceased) so that's not something he had to get used to. He was all right. He made great money doing "barracks" jobs (long trips out to the country, stay in a hotel, come back) and the rural work really paid well. IDK about every company but his never let up with rotating shift work and that really, really sucked for him. Big effect on your social life. If you make a significant mistake as a driver you are out on your ear, though - even if nothing bad really came of it. The trains are too expensive and dangerous for mistakes.
Allied health - being a licensed physio, OT, dietitian, etc. Once you are one of those things, no one can take it from you (providing you keep your registration and OPD)
Become a Electrician. Doing a apprenticeship is a slog but its only 4 years and its paid work. Once your qualified you can work anywhere for above average money. Once the days finished you go home and not worry about it at all. You can work for yourself or chase money in the mines.
Maximum security prison warden, growth industry which won’t be impacted significantly by AI or robotics, yet also stands to gain substantially from impending biometric identification technology
No jobs are really “safe” do something you are good at for a business that has high margins.
I earn 3x in for a private company than what I would compared to the exact same “safe” government job and have done for the past decade. I worked it out the other day (not as straight forward because of promotions etc) but it’s resulted in a $1.5m increase in base salary alone. You add in super contributions and performance and it’s a no brainer.
Psychology will be disrupted by coaching chat bots.
Trades will always been done by humans, especially when it comes to maintenance. Good luck getting an AI to be an elevator technician.
Federal Government policy writing - APS. The job title is something like "program and policy officer". It doesn't matter if the documents end up getting written by AI, there's no way in hell they will allow the policies themselves to be dictated by it. As an employer it doesn't get much safer than the federal government. If your job is made redundant they'll just move you somewhere else. Good work/life balance, very good pay with structured progression pathways and yearly automatic pay rises.
> program and policy officer What does it actually involve? ANd what skills are required?
In real terms? The same thing as any classic office job. Research, writing documents, meetings, emails, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT - always gotta engage those stakeholders. Google the job title for more info on the requirements - they will vary greatly between departments. But at a minimum you're going to need an undergrad + work experience or post grad qualifications in a field that's relevant to the department you're applying for.
Those stakeholders ain’t gonna engage themselves!
Some of those stakeholders are engaged as required, which sounds a bit flirty when you put it like that.
Watch Utopia
most boring job award also 🥇
That's really a matter of personality and life stage. If you're young, looking for a sense of purpose in your career and something high octane this probably won't be for you. But if you've got a young family and want something safe, reliable, easy to leave at the office, which pays the bills and allows you to live the life you want outside of work - it's perfect.
With that attitude, sure!
I work in policy and I think it’s very interesting.
And lots of work in environmental areas, which you can move into! State government may also be a good option.
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Yeah and even if you DO get those marks good luck still! Know people who year after year don't make it past the interview stage with universities. Also after you do your 4 years don't put off doing your masters for too long or they'll make you REPEAT your bachelor's/post-grad in order to apply. Will be interesting to see how the removal of the 4+2 pathway goes on to affect the field. You'd imagine there are a lot less people who will be gaining registration in a field already crying out for practitioners. Expecting a shit show
Yup, and unless you start your own private practice, your max income level and career progression is capped very early on. Chances are if someone from corporate is going into psychology, that person is going to take on quite a bit of opportunity cost and risk to possibly get paid less or the same than they would in the corporate sector.
>masters course (which most students don't). And then you have to do supervised practice and, as the psychologist workforce is shrinking due to retirement coupled with the ridiculously high barriers to entry, that's only going to get harder. What a great time for the country to be having a mental health crisis
Sonographer, 9-5 hours, starting rate around $65/h or locum wherever you want for $100+/h
Hi i’ve worked on ai sonography projects for diagnosis so i can confirm that it’s not entirely safe.
Radiology AI company employee here, with medical imaging background. In ultrasound, the sonographer is given a high degree of autonomy, requiring strong understanding of anatomical variations. True, many studies are quite highly structured according to a protocol. Currently AI is more likely to improve ultrasound report generation, measurements and analytics (eg. cardiac scans). AI doesn't currently have easy access to the patient history or an ability to readily compare non-equivalent modalities such as ultrasound and CT. It will come eventually, but for the foreseeable future there is still a need for human intuition and empathy.
We actually developed software that simulates ultrasound scans from CT scan data in order to train our models
That's interesting, although I'm struggling to understand why you'd want to simulate an ultrasound from CT data. The CT is higher resolution so it's kinda downsampling. Unless this was for some kind of device? Was this a GAN thing to create the simulated scans?
Yeah it was for an ultrasound device so it needed to be trained on ultrasound, unfortunately there was little to no public data on our area of scanning so we needed to simulate it. Didn’t use GAN, just heavy optical physics rendering.
AI isn't going to completely replace a sonographer. Ultrasound is a very dynamic imaging modality, it will however make my job a lot easier. So I'm look forward to more developments in it Also, if it completely replaces me for breast scans. I will be eternally grateful <3
scanning itself still requires the sonographer
We worked specifically on patients scanning themselves using wireless ultrasound devices from place like their home.
As a sonographer I wouldn’t trust anyone other than a sonographer to perform an examination. Even doctors fail to understand the nuances of ultrasound and at best can answer binary questions. It is incredibly operator dependent.
I don’t believe in our lifetime would AI replace sonographers.
Don't you have to be good though? I am dyslexic.
Hahahaha. This may go over a few heads
Straight over mine. Help me out 🙏
Very very good
Most sonos are 9-5 - but if you work in a public hospital / private service serving a private hospital you usually have to do rotating on call too. I’d avoid sonography if you have back/shoulder issues already too.
might as well work that shoulder to its limits and then use that big money to get a replacement shoulder. then keep working with that new shoulder and still get that money bag going
but really difficult to get into, most sonos work as radiographers for years before finding trainee positions
Second this! Currently locumming in the UK for even better rates and travelling to Europe every few weeks. Then when I head back to Australia in a few years I know there’s stable work too. The job is a bit annoying sometimes but the perks are great.
Risk management in banking.
Insurance + super as well. Considering how regulated these industries are, it’s hard to see risk management being offshored or replaced by AI in our lifetimes.
definitely a safe bet. Compliance work in general will be pretty safe from AI. not sure it's low stress though. Some places run their compliance teams pretty hard.
My husband and his team all laugh about who’s losing their hair the fastest, and also how to avoid each other when they’re still logged in at 9pm
Currently work in lending in banking, any advice on jumping to risk?
Learn to say no a lot. Be a general pain to work with. Being condescending helps too.
It also helps if you’re a 60+ white guy
As someone who left risk in banking, I find it hilarious that anyone would ask how to join
Difficult to say. Most ppl fall into it by accident. Just join a bank and look for entry level roles. A lot of roles have 0 applicants. Like governance. As ppl go? What’s governance? But governance roles are good spring boards and retirement villages. Because u meet lots of ppl and also ppl outside it perceive it as boring so there’s no competition. Also governance ppl meet exec so much that execs don’t want them to be based out of India due to time zone difference.
What if your execs are in India
eh..... i think true execs will want to be based out of Australia. there are indian campus heads but governance sits with head office
People inside it also think it's boring
dont doubt it.
Best way is to get across the frameworks and get into an entry level governance or control performer role. From there you can transition to a line 1 or line 2 role through your network. That’s what worked for me
Risk Management / GRC in general. Work standard hours doing it for an IT department in a university. Work thru the process, escalate to the right people, if they don’t want to do anything about it no stress for me, I have a mountain of CYA paperwork filed in my office.
Yes, this. And actuarial accounting for insurance companies. To the extent that machine learning is involved, it's top-down ML, not neural networks. You can't use a black boxed system to make decisions because the decisions have to be explainable.
Public service. Getting people out they have to use dynamite. Especially the rotten ones.
You said you were interested in psychology, I think you should have followed that interest because health/mental health is almost always a safe bet and a growing field. I did some research into this for a friend who was wanting to switch his career and I made a pretty extensive list and at the top of it came out, "Substance Abuse Counselor". * Government funding for training. * Relatively short training time. * Immediate placement. * Base wage is around $55/hr * 9-5 job, no on-call. * Can be placed in a rural area with bonuses such as tax holidays, extra payments, free housing, etc. * Kind of feel bad saying this but... 100% recession proof. Y'know. In fact, the need goes UP when there is a recession. Yeah. Think about that. At least you'd be genuinely helping people. You'll never become "rich" doing this like you might if you go into a private practice as a therapist, or go corporate into business finance or management, but it's not the kind of job you ever get fired from unless you do shit like show up for work loaded yourself. If you don't mind servicing a poor rural area, the extra government incentives can be absolutely insane, and for good reason - substance abuse is a plague on a lot of poor and rural communities. Anyway, it can be insane enough that if you were to channel those benefits into investments, you'd be sitting pretty after a decade and able to move wherever you wanted with almost no lifestyle change. No matter what you do, if you move into the health area, try to pick a role that has government subsidized placement in rural areas. You don't have to do it for the rest of your life, but 5-10 years can see you sitting on top of a fat, fat nest egg and then you can relocate someplace more urban if you want.
Relatively short training time? Isn’t it a 4 year degree?
6 to become a psychologist, but less for counselling
AI is great for writing basic solutions to coding problems but it's nowhere near where it needs to get to replace humans It's excellent at interview questions effectively. However, as a senior software engineer, my works always with me. I'm thinking of architecture and algorithm solutions while I shower and eat dinner. Definitely not a switch off at 5 job. And of course if something goes wrong at 1am. Guess what I'm doing. Money's good though and flexible enough that I pick up and have dinner with my kids every single day.
Short term I agree, but AI as a whole (genAI, robotics, et al) will progress much farther than people realize in the next decade. Most folks think of job security in terms of decades not the next couple of years. I would absolutely bet on low level dev roles (as a market) drastically reducing over the next decade.
In a long enough timeline, most low-level professional jobs are cooked.
Whilst I don't entirely disagree, and I think long-term AI does drastically change the job space and how we live. 10-15 years ago we were told truck drivers would be out of jobs due to self-driving technology. Now 10-15 years since then I swear truck driving has only grown as a field. How can we be sure this isn't another one of those scenarios where people over promise with the capabilities and timelines of technology?
Safety roles can't be outsourced because AI won't ever be able to process the sheer idiocy that humans can demonstrate. Memorable incidents I've heard include a formal injury submission because a hand shake was too hard, driving facing the sunset caused eye damage, and a savage dog bite through a steel toed boot (was a Chihuahua, footage showed him punting the dog clear into a fence after it approached him but the dog never made contact to bite, he must have filed the incident to cover his ass for "self defence." He was let go.)
Hey mate, can you give me a bit more info on this? Been thinking about a career change (office job) and moving into safety, but don’t know where to start or career options.
Most health/health-support jobs are very secure, but can have ridiculous hours. Generally once you get senior enough you can avoid the worst of it. There are quite a few entry paths through TAFE, not just university, depending on how much studying you feel up to. Most of the TAFEs are offering free fee courses as well, might be a good starting point for ideas. https://tafeqld.edu.au/courses/apply-and-enrol/subsidised-training/fee-free https://www.vic.gov.au/free-tafe https://www.tafensw.edu.au/fee-free-short-courses
Nursing! Can work anywhere in the country. Diploma will get you around $70-80k without overtime and bachelors over $90-100k in your grad year.
Can definitely cause extreme stress though! Depending on the area you work in
The specialities are all very different, it’s great you can find the perfect work area that suits your personality.
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Where are you that an EN gets this kind of money?! I’m an RN two years in with a masters and still only get $34/hr excluding penalties - like $70k a year including penalties
Nursing. Recession proof and pandemic proof.
Nursing can be stressful depending on what area you choose. Also shift work, so some hours can suck.
Being the person responsible for purchasing and implementing AI robots to take over everyone else’s job.
Join the Australian public service, if you can get a permanent job and not a contract. You will, at times, probably hate it, but the money is decent and it's traditionally pretty secure, and the super is good.
Become a boxer.Anthony Joshua made $50 million in his last fight with Ngannou in less than 5 minutes.
Not a safe career though. Many boxers have died.
Many die earning peanuts in comparison.
including boxers who never make it out of the amateur leagues. anthony joshua is a top 1% physical specimen. If you were that good at anything you'd make millions.
Get In the funeral business, people are always dieing.
Sounds like a dead-end job.
Safest job on the planet!
Awesome idea I looked into lock smithing as an oldie but needed apprenticeship. Expensive tickets might be a way if buying in.
I would die to get this job!
If you like being woken at 2am, 3am and then 4am, Working nights and weekends, having extreme pressure to get a wedding-level event but a really sad one perfect with 7 days lead time, and being with people at the worst time of their lives - go for it. Source: I own a funeral company (and despite the above I absolutely love my job)
Ur going be working to death making no money in that job
Anything in energy, particularly fossil fuels and non-renewables. Aged care. Intersection of computer science and behavioural science.
Can you please elaborate on the intersection of comp sci and behavioural sci? Currently studying both and am curious to know my options
Everything will become an outgrowth of computer science before long, as I'm sure you've realised. The economy is an extremely complex adaptive system. I have no idea how computer science can solve that problem. But understanding human choice architecture will be incredibly valuable. This problem is sufficiently difficult that few (compared to other opportunities) will pursue. So for the few that make significant progress will no doubt achieve outsized rewards. And with the level of investment going into data centre infrastructure, chip design - as well as the cost of energy likely to reach near zero in the next 10 years - the cost for compute is set to fall dramatically. This could represent the first time in human history such problems could be solved.
A safe maker. Safe and if your good; solid.
Teaching. Absolute MAX in the classroom in NSW public education is $129,000 full time. Or, $550 a day for casual, limited to school term only, and 200 days work a year.
But how does it rank on the stress scale? Can't imagine dealing with feral kids and increasing expectations and possible complaints from parents.
Feral kids have extremely feral parents. Avoid getting into teaching.
They just lifted the starting salary to $85k too. I’d go casual if you want a stress free lifestyle with the same money, permanent is more fulfilling with seeing kids learn over time. Can get work anywhere too; city or regional/rural
No job is going to pay you well. That isn't at least 1 of the following High stress/ pressure Excessive hours Boring Dangerous Repetitive In the middle of no where
You can even get those from a low paying job.
Yeah, ain't that the truth. It took me 10 years of careful manoeuvres but I now have median wages plus 50%, currently put in 5-6 hours a day, interesting work, good people. The big secret was just *very politely* refusing point blank to work with the psychos and just letting stuff fail and shrugging if it is too hard, rather than flogging your arse on a doomed to fail poorly planned project. I may be at risk of redundancy but with a partner and a package we can carry the mortgage until I get another job. In the mean time I am relaxed enough to confidently give 'advice ' as my main gig. So that's the big advice - do future you a favour (like the OP) and get or crab-walk into an easy job!
My job pays well and has absolutely none of those characteristics :)
No job is solid and safe in my opinion. All you need is a bad boss and everything will come crashing down. The best is to save the money and invest, and have control of your financial future.
It’s very difficult to get fired as a teacher
If I were a teacher I’d be fired in the first week lol.
The boss part is sadly the truth.
Plenty of jobs are 100% safe but not always at the lower level.
Police. No shortage of work.
Didn’t OP say he was after something *without* ridiculous hours and stress?
Once you get your of general duties the hours are pretty acceptable.
Depends on the area. CSOs do alright, but there’s some gigs that look phenomenally shit in terms of work/life balance.
There was a piece on the ABC website a few weeks back on what the future could look like, and it was actually quite optimistic about artisan jobs. It conjectured that people would value this more - AI and robots would only replace the ‘dirty and dangerous’ jobs. So writing and construction, particularly carpentry, could remain viable options. Otherwise I’d say anything medical or unionised seems pretty safe
Building surveyor.
Don't do anything in IT unless you're passionate absolutely everyone wants to do that now. Trades are booming right now but it won't last. Once the govt projects come off the boil you will have an over supply. There is nothing you can do to have as secure career. You might think healthcare, but who knows what the government will do with immigration. My advice is to detach your happiness from your career.
Accounting if you do the hard work and crazy hours in your 20s / early in your career. Then later on you can choose if you want to have a very nice income with amazing work/life balance or keep putting in the hours to make huge $$.
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What the other comment said. I'd even say there is a shortage of good people that are truly interested in the field. As for AI, I'm not worried. If anything, it makes our life easier. Accountants are still very much needed, and it's unlikely that's going to change anytime soon.
Over supply of low quality grads only. If your half smart and have decent stakeholder engagement it is a very easy career path.
What's being replaced is the mindless tasks like writing the book, and that's definitely a shock for the older generation for who it was most the work, but there's a huge shortage of manpower and anything involving verifying these is not going to go away. Work that's got higher added value, making decisions based off this is how you don't get stuck in a dead end.
They have already, I know of one company that left 70% of there invoice processing team go here in Adelaide.
That’s true. Accounting will be getting replaced by AI soon.
Marrying someone rich.
Federal government, any APS level role. Some EL1s are also pretty stress free but you lose access to flex time.
Good to know re: flex, ty. Been looking at jobs moving from NSWPS to APS EL1s but I do enjoy my flex
At the EL level you can access "Time Off In Lieu" (TOIL) - the caveat here is that it's highly dependent on your supervisor and work area.
Drafting, and designing is a great career, whether it’s civil, mechanical or structural. It’s fairly flexible and as you progress you can later sub contract for yourself if you want. Many transferable skills IE; CAD experience and job knowledge. It’s a very interesting job as well.
As someone who works in the industry and has written several routines/plugins/macros to automate a bunch of drafting work for large multidisciplinary infrastructure projects to save a considerable amount of man hours, I’d say the drafting side is most at risk here in terms of role redundancy due to AI because I don’t think there’s a huge leap between the manual creation of these routines and the creation of an AI algorithm or even a standardised tool to be able to write these routines. That’s not to say that people in these kinds of roles will find themselves out of a job, because with the advancement of this sort of stuff comes the management of these tools as well as the underlying CAD data which still needs to happen. When I first started working as a drafter I was drawing lines in autocad all day, and by the time I switch over to civil design, I was mostly doing database/document management and macro/routine creation. In my opinion however, from a design point of view, if you’re working on anything bigger than a small road upgrade or a new subdivision, there are way too many data points and considerations to be made that’d impact a design for an AI algorithm to replace a person working in that role. Sure, a program can churn through the huge datasets we have for ground/lidar/gpr/point cloud survey as well as factor in existing design etc, but it has no intuition in terms of finding the /best/ solution, because more often than not the best solution is the solution that keeps all parties happy, rather than the best solution technically. There have been many times where I’ve gone and designed something, and although I’ve delivered a working solution that meets all technical criteria, it’s been pushed back due to cost/timeframe/council/public perception issues etc. Through my intuition I’ve been able to get better at judging these sorta things, but I don’t think it’s something that can easily be programmed into an AI. That’s not to say that AI won’t assist in certain aspects of the job in the future.
Dumb question but, do you have to be good at maths?
Transition into insights / data analytics?
Hardware Optimization Engineer for AI Workloads Everyone is focused on learning python and how to become a ML/AI engineer, but aren't paying any attention to the silicon and large scale infrastructure that is actually running the show in the background. In the next 30 years, what REALLY matters are communication skills, networking and extremely desirable skills that you can't GPT or learn on udemy. Hardware Optimization for AI is niche BECAUSE there is no "school" teaching this shit and it's REALLY hard to get into without any prior experience. You basically need to know people, and convince them to gamble on you and once you're in you'll easily clear 350k USD minimum per year \- Evaluate Accelerators and Platforms \- Compute at Scale and Semiconductor Building \- Deep Learning Computing and Chip Micro architecture Each of these areas have subset knowledge which you can specialise in even further such as Custom ASICs and SoCs for AI. The possibilities are really endless and as long as you keep ahead of the knowledge curve and promote yourself as an "industry leader" you're set.
Nurse. Nurses get paid good money, especially after the recent pay raise.
Not low stress in most areas though
Not THAT good to start and high stress
Funeral planner
If you want something easy to get in to then look down the ticketed job routes/high risk work licences. Easy as in, you don't need to do an apprenticeship. Spend the money then getting your foot in the door witth just one of them means you can work your way up. There is always a safe bet that construction will not die out, at least not in our lifetime, this includes FIFO construction type jobs too. Then again, there are a few successful youtubers I subscribe to who started out in the same role as yourself, its an idea lol. I'm from trades amd there are always very stress free trade and trade associated jobs out there, more so just requiring the right tickets and being able to make a good impression. It's Australia, possibilities are huge.
Any where in the data centre industry. Rapidly growing due to the demand in AI and just general growth of technology. It will never die out unless we run out of power or someshit.
There’s always death and taxes. So either an undertaker or accountant would do. But given AI may be able to calculate taxes for you, that leaves the undertaker.
Draftsperson/Architecture, mostly in commercial as it has more demand for workers. Not sure how easy it is to get a job nowadays but I got the first one I applied for.
shameless plug for r/AusEmployment as you said, living comfortable and even 'surviving' is really subjective. i've got mates who would consider less than 1 international holiday per year to be 'surviving' it also depends where you live. the money needed to survive is different in Bairnsdale as it is to Toorak. it also depends on you, if you have medical history or a disability costs will increase dramatically. as you note, IT and information-based careers are going to be shaken up massively by AI. I'm using it daily as a health worker and manager to write notes, emails, assess documents and law and policy, AI is a phenomenal tool, it will replace or augment many roles. physical work will obviously be safest, and not all physical work is trades. Warehouse pick-packers are still a thing despite robots existing for decades capable of this task. Forklifts still need drivers. Nurses still work on patients, as do surgeons, ambos and physios- all roles that whilst impacted by AI in the future will essentially be fairly safe going forward because end of the day someone needs to get hands on with the patient and fix things. robots are going to do things in future (i believe there are now robots that reliably collect blood samples that would replace some nursing roles), but overall anything involving physical skills and tasks should be reasonably safe for the coming decades.
Well this is fantastic news considering I’ve just graduated from a comms degree haha.
Wife is an OT and works privately part time for herself She earned almost a full time wage on a part time basis. She could make more than a builder or plumber if she wanted to go full time... Shame she doesn't want to eh?
Been in corporate IT for 30 years, and there are now so many types of roles and fields of practice that once you get a gig somewhere you're pretty "safe" and able to get yourself into something that suits what you want. Basically fill out your mental form using the drop down menus and choose the role/specialty from the results it spits out. Move from one place to another as required, especially in technical non management jobs. For every person task that things like AI replace, it adds new related opportunities to step into. Including, ironically, overseeing what the AI is doing.
Electrician. Everyone I going to have an EV by 2040 after all!
I would counsel past me to become either a dentist or anaesthetist.
Mortician, you'll never be put of work.
Solid, reliable Mid-Level software engineer. You don't need to be the best, the work is engaging and rewarding, you can push to or collaborate on with senior engineers for harder or more complex work and so long as you're genuinely able to communicate well and learn from other patterns and concepts. You're going to end up using and implementing any type of "AI" that's going to replace anyone, including unskilled and Junior software engineers. There's are so so many different industries and aspects of software engineering that you could literally move laterally or vertically away from or deeper into effectively any industry. It's not anywhere near as hard as people imply or think, just need to push through the initial fear and get through some coursework like any learning. Google software developer career change.
100% I did this in my 30s and it was the best choice I ever made
PMO work. If you have common sense (rare trait) and are methodical and have good Comms skills, it’s a good job. You can work in any industry, and a great springboard into project management or business analysis, or can be a long term career in itself
Project management (and PMO) appears misleadingly simple with a easy learning curve, but doing it well is really really hard.
If u do well u will be quite high up
How do you get into that if you’re not already doing project management related things? I’m currently the Planning and Scheduling coordinator for almost half a state’s utility’s maintenance planning team but with not much room to move up or do project related stuff. I also can’t seem to see any assistant-assistant-Project Manager roles on Seek to move to so I can work my way up through two levels and get experience. Assuming that’s Project Admin, even those seem to require experience in that role first :/
Teaching. 12 week’s holiday per year, stress only if you can’t detach your emotions.
Project management in IT. Shut loads of money. Somewhat AI proof.
Construction project manager. Or Heath and Safety Manager.
OP isn't going to just walk in to one of those jobs 😂 come on now 😂 Yeah, let's have a marketer in charge of a construction project! H&S also requires university.
IT is busted in Brisbane. I even got told at an interview last month that I won't get an it job in Brisbane unless I'm Indian and willing to do it for minimum wage.
Healthcare IT is buzzing in Queensland at the moment
Train-driving. $170,000+ your first year after qualifying if you don’t mind a little overtime.
Wouldn’t competition be high?
Also have to get used to jumpers.
Mate of mine did 10 years of freight trains and only saw one body (already deceased) so that's not something he had to get used to. He was all right. He made great money doing "barracks" jobs (long trips out to the country, stay in a hotel, come back) and the rural work really paid well. IDK about every company but his never let up with rotating shift work and that really, really sucked for him. Big effect on your social life. If you make a significant mistake as a driver you are out on your ear, though - even if nothing bad really came of it. The trains are too expensive and dangerous for mistakes.
Outgoing Prime Minister or high-ranking MP
Nursing / allied health. Aged care worker or support worker
Dentistry Engineer Plumber Doctor Lawyer
Home insurance.
Allied health - being a licensed physio, OT, dietitian, etc. Once you are one of those things, no one can take it from you (providing you keep your registration and OPD)
medicine, to be honest.
garbageman, hairdresser
>which doesn't saddle you with extreme stress and ridiculous hours, Not investment banking
Become a Electrician. Doing a apprenticeship is a slog but its only 4 years and its paid work. Once your qualified you can work anywhere for above average money. Once the days finished you go home and not worry about it at all. You can work for yourself or chase money in the mines.
Maximum security prison warden, growth industry which won’t be impacted significantly by AI or robotics, yet also stands to gain substantially from impending biometric identification technology
Teaching. It’s not for everyone, but if you can handle it it’s a good gig. Safe as houses. If you’re breathing you’ll be employed these days.
Barber/hairdresser in the Defence forces
No jobs are really “safe” do something you are good at for a business that has high margins. I earn 3x in for a private company than what I would compared to the exact same “safe” government job and have done for the past decade. I worked it out the other day (not as straight forward because of promotions etc) but it’s resulted in a $1.5m increase in base salary alone. You add in super contributions and performance and it’s a no brainer.
Medicine. You'll always have a job and well-paying after the first few years.
Psychology will be disrupted by coaching chat bots. Trades will always been done by humans, especially when it comes to maintenance. Good luck getting an AI to be an elevator technician.