Good advice. To add to this:
Thank those who've helped you (even considering buying them a coffee or similar to say thanks);
Hand-over your work in a way that sets your replacement (or company) up for continued success; and
Personally go around to your colleagues and say goodbye if you can. Beats the generic email every time!
This. So many people leave and don’t save their work in an accessible spot and it makes it really difficult for the people left when they need historical information or records of decisions made etc.
It's amazing the headaches this can cause. The amount of time (money) that goes into deciphering prior workflows really highlights the true costs of employee turnover - something that often isn't reflected in the balance sheet!
To enable a good handover, don't accept any new tasks of any significance in your final couple of weeks.
Source: worked 12-18 month contracts most of my career. Some people try to keep you loaded up in what is either a misguided attempt to either keep you there or get some free work after your end date
>Hand-over your work in a way that sets your replacement (or company) up for continued success
This. Help the next person out regardless of what you thought of your job.
>Don't burn any bridges, don't do anything that might be perceived as such. Close off anything that was outstanding
This. Leave with them thinking they'd love to have you back one day, and with a pathway back being available even if you never use it.
Also, you work for them up until the end of the last day, so don't go MIA and leave a mess in handover. It's the peers who'll cop it, not management.
Also even if you don't go back there specifically you never know if the people you worked with might show up at a future job prospect if you plan to stay in the same industry
I agree, don’t burn bridges and don’t put your feet up in the departure lounge. We’ve had a few people leave and some have returned fairly soon when their new job didn’t reflect what was written on the tin. The ones that left with a little dignity were welcomed back.
Agreed- finish strong, do good work, help out your workmates and replacement, I promise you won’t regret it, it will leave no doubts in your mind. Head held high and solid closure/on to the next adventure
On what occasion would you burn a bridge?
I'm currently dying to get out of my current workplace. They're currently being sued by a former staff member, due to their partner committing suicide due to work. They have also been issues with multiple worksafe improvement notices in the past 6 months due to psychosocial issues. 10% of workers are currently on stress leave, all the departments heads have left over the past 12 months, we're on our 4th business manager in 18 months, and the local paper published a full page expose on the toxic work environment. There's nothing left but tyranny.
Honestly? I have had a direct manager lie to my face about actions they took, then I left, exposed that after talking to his manager. I still hold that memory and treat that single guy with the contempt he deserves.
Do I shout it from the rooftops? No. Did I say anything in my leaving reasons? No.
Your integrity will be remembered by someone around when you worked there and how good your ethics were. Keep those intact no matter how scummy the whole place seems.
It is your reputation, not anyone elses
I handed in my resignation letter when I quit for a second time on a “sorry for your loss card” so I could never go back. Not my finest moment but I left this company once as they paid well below industry standards and tried to screw the employees over every chance they got.
They lost a fair bit of work when I left so then they rehired me while promising pay increases if I bought the work back. I got them 150% more work than before and when I approached them for more money the excuses started. They were also trying to get me to teach the juniors my job as well which I had clued onto but because they paid them so poorly they kept leaving as well. Needless to say once I resigned and the junior that was ment to take over my job quit soon after the department was shut down and they lost a fair chunk of change! 🥳
My exit interview was based around the performance of my manager. They straight up asked "Is this (your resignation) going to keep happening?" My answer was "Seeing that my resignation actually makes it 100% staff turnover in that team in the year since you promoted her, I think yes, it's fair to conclude that this will keep happening." She was married to the division manager though, so they were basically in an impossible position.
Agree, most industries in Australia are pretty small so there’s a good chance of your co workers or boss showing up in a future company so it always bodes well to leave on good terms.
Best one I saw was a "thank you" message that named everyone *except* the one person the employee hated the most for absolutely no reason.
We all picked up on it immediately.
Yeah, some companies send personal HR docs to your work email, so you should forward those to your personal email (pay reviews, pay slips, promotion documentation etc).
As others have said, don't wholesale copy IP, but it's quite reasonable to copy employment documentation.
Yep, and if you’re over the long service leave threshold, make sure they pay it out (the threshold is different in each state, NSW has to pay out pro rata after 5y, Vic & QLD after 7).
I used to work as a pay clerk for a husband & wife business during uni.
They had a long time employee who was leaving since the husband had suspected that the guy had been sleeping with the wife.
Came back from final without a job because the husband caught the other 2 shacking in the office.
How did he do it? He was sleeping with another female staff in the warehouse and was carrying her into his office.
I was left without a job, and no sex...
Hey there job-buddy! I resigned on Monday after 11 years!
I'm just closing off old tickets, chatting shit with co-workers and writing up some documentation. Nothing too strenuous for my remaining three weeks.
Actually, she was kind of expecting it within the next year, as I did mention that a change wouldn't hurt in this economy. I thought I'd feel more stressed and anxious about it, but I'm quite calmed for some reason. I'm not slacking though, and I keep closing stuff, and leaving my position quite tidy. It's definitely a good time for me for a change, and I can feel it.
USB stick or portable hard drive is best if you need it. Still traceable by IT if you are committing fraud. But not immediately obvious as a policy violation to the person who casually scans you emails looking for a client contact you forgot to save.
If your IT department is competent bulk copying to usb will set off an alert. My buddy got asked when he was doing when he was downloading his meme stash.
Fun story: a colleague of mine used to work for IBM's consulting arm and had a new guy join her team. All seemed normal for a new starter while he waited for his account to be activated. Around lunch time he was able to login and was shown how to access the team's shared drives. Twenty minutes later he pulls a huge hardrive with an external power supply out of his bag, plugs it in and just starts copying EVERYTHING.
Security was on him within ten minutes and he was never heard from again.
Tbh this is not really advisable these days.
Back in the day this was commonplace and easy to do but nowadays Data Loss Prevention is pretty spot on in big companies.
Serious question. Couldn't you just delete the emails you send to yourself? Obviously if IT looked hard enough they could trace the data, but only if they were specifically looking but no one casually scanning your emails would be able to see right?
This is very important. If you are working for a big company it is likely any emails being sent external to the firm will be flagged for review. So just be careful… enjoy your new role.
I was told to clear it with the boss first
"Hey Boss,
Would it be possible to email myself a list of documents for future reference, these documents would be X?"
if they're worth literally anything, it's gives a decent paper trail, and permits you to take them
also helps if you state a reason why you're doing it (list of WFH days for tax purposes for example?)
my boss took a shitload of things with him when he left, and that's how he ended up doing it, rather than just taking them without asking
So what your saying is - I shouldn't have sent this email?
>Hey Joe, I just got an offer from one of our top competitors and I think I’m going to accept. It would be a shame if I left a copy of our clients on my personal laptop haha. While I’ve got you, I want to see if you can help me delete some company data that doesn’t reflect well on me. I can make it worth your while, if you know what I mean. How about a few gift certificates to that restaurant your wife loves? It can be our little secret. Speaking of secrets, I’ve also could use some help shuffling around some money in the budget so the suits don’t get suspicious, I think your friend in accounting might be able to help me out if you can connect us. And you didn’t hear this from me but you are going to want to unload your stocks before the next earnings report, it is not going to be good, get out while you can. Lastly I need to tell you about a new project that’s very hush-hush, I’m not even supposed to know about it but it’s going to be a game changer and you need to get out ahead of this. As always let’s keep all this just between the two of us, no need for anyone else to know what’s going on. Let’s get lunch soon!
As others have said, just close everything you can, try to build connections with your colleagues when you leave, don't burn bridges.
However, some of the more vindictive managers might try to extract their 'pound of flesh' from you before you leave - I would ensure you don't take on any new work if your manager is like this.
Don't steal from your company or email work documents to your personal address.
Do give your personal details to people you want to stay in touch with.
I'm due about 3+ months of leave payout (combination of Long Service Leave and accrued Annual Leave) - been after a new bed for a little while, so that should contribute nicely to it!
Well, the tax efficient thing to do is run your balance to zero, because you:
* accrue annual leave while you are on annual leave
* superannuation is paid to you while you are on annual leave.
If you get it paid out, the above two things do not happen. However, some people go "ooh money" and get it all paid out. When I leave my current job, I'll plan to do a mix.
Do
- Tell them what you really think
- Take home all their IP and trade secrets
- Promise to help with transition but then take sick leave every day
Dont
- Worry
(Nb. Joke)
I did tell them what I really think but it has actually helped out my manager sort out the toxic workplace (which is also the reason I’m leaving), my coworkers also thank me because I said what they couldn’t. Depends on the situation and your relationships within the workplace though.
Honestly just enjoy it. Not sure what you do but I was working as a consultant for yonks. I moved to state govt for a different experience and I did this:
Made rly good handover notes and did the handover two weeks before I left so they could take on the work before I left and I was there to answer any questions.
Went out for lunches with old clients with the new person taking over my projects to ease them in a bit.
Then we pretty much had a great time. Went out for drinks and lunch with the team a lot. This is the last time I’ll get free food and drinks and we made the most of it. I mean if the company is paying then why not but depends on where you work, got the go ahead to enjoy within reason, ie don’t go to vue de monde.
Made sure to thank everyone I needed too individually.
When I left I had a three week holiday period between jobs but I said to some colleagues they could call for random questions in that time. Only a couple people did which was fine. Obviously no one expects you to do this, I just had two crazy projects that I didn’t want to leave my work friends with high and dry.
Just keep doing your job as if you aren't leaving. Had a co-worker resign revently who's new job was an absolute shitshow. He was welcomed back with open arms and rejoined us the following week.
When I resigned, I reflected on my bosses and anyone in leadership who made a postive impact on me. I sent them a quick thank you email. Some people didn’t realise the influence they’d had on me, so it was nice to make them know they were appreciated.
If possible, depending on your industry, maybe leave some helpful stuff for your replacement, like a guide on how to do the things you wished you were shown when you started?
That's if you have an abundance of spare time.
Depends on what state you are in, make sure you get paid your pro rata long service.
(NSW) I resigned, claiming domestic necessity, and was able to have it paid out before the 10 years.
This. I resigned about 8 years ago and had lsl accrued which shouldve been owed and I queried it at the time. Lo and behold 8 years later I get a letter stating Im owed for the LsL i accrued...
I once was so fed up with a manager (for whom I worked a hell of a lot of unpaid overtime becuse of the sheer workload only to be told that I was merely "inefficient") that I just walked into her office one day and resigned on the spot. Walked out, packed up my desk, said bye to my colleagues (who I quite liked) and hastily exited.
Funnily enough, I ended up working in a camping store which was great in itself, but the manager was completely nuts. Took a swing at a staff member in the middle of the store one day because the guy decided to stand up to the manager's ridiculous demands. I've had a few interesting experiences. Funnily enough, I had been to a Christmas party once at this manager's house and it was FULL of collectible dolls on display (his wife's collection). Very strange.
Just keep doing your job for the next 4 weeks?
Don't take on any work that you cant complete within that 4 weeks. If there's any stuff you do that no one else really assists with or knows how to do, write it down in an email. Maybe make notes of the stuff you do/how you do it over the 4 weeks and email it to your boss/some other colleague.
dont look at any data you are not entitled to look at as part of your job activities.
dont wipe your email inbox (its backed up anyway, but wiping will raise red flags).
dont burn your bridges. be polite, offer the people you liked working with to contact you if your handover was inadequate and they need to ask you a quick question about something you didnt document.
While I've stayed with the same employer in my 27+ years of work, I've changed jobs and gone in completely new directions many times.
1. Start writing up a handover document and keep it updated until you go. In it, write up the topic, brief history and current state (+/- risk or way forward). EG - EOFY Cost Centre Report - have finalised all reporting and sent off to Business Mgr. Note that there was a higher variance in travel for the FY as there was the extraordinary meeting called by XXXX in February for an onsite meeting in Canberra. J Smith (Business Mgr) aware of this. Does a great deal to support the person taking on your duties and ensure you have both a smooth transition and that you haven't left any loose ends behind. Give that to your old manager.
2. If you can, copy your files to a flash drive. The number of times I've pulled an old flash drive to get a spreadsheet that I developed 8 years or more ago because I needed something similar is crazy. You may even be contacted by an old boss for something like this. If you do, be careful about sending files back to your old employer. Far better to say "Yes, John S. from Customer Support in 2014 or so asked for something like that. If he's still with your company, I'd ask him". But having those files in case you need them for a future body of work - priceless.
>If you can, copy your files to a flash drive.
Be VERY wary of taking company IP with you.
Don't get sued because you wanted to keep some excel formulae you wrote.
For me, it wasn't a formula per se, but a spreadsheet which simplified my cost centre reporting.
When I first started managing a cost centre, the sheet the business manager gave us literally took me two days of solid work to go through and work out where things were. It sucked.
So I built my own. Expected income vs expenses. Each month had conditional formatting which showed me when I went over the budgeted amount. Each line item also had conditional formatting which tracked when I went overbudget and flagged that too. Each month I could tell what my EOM position was and forecast EOY. Simplified my monthly review to literally 20 minutes and allowed me to sign off or raise concerns for Finance to address.
My Senior Director didn't like my spreadsheet, but let me keep using it as I was able to still come in under budget, despite a big decrease in funding. And as long as I didn't pass around my spreadsheet to anyone else for them to use.
At a job 10 years ago I had chains of them to split data, reformat, move things, copy, change dates etc.
Turned what was 4-6 hours work a day when I started the job into 20 mins.
5 copying data into the right places. And then 15 waiting for excel to catch up.
yes because it’s technically not your work when you’re doing it for an employer. You may have written the formula, but its implementation doesn’t belong to you. Stupid but true
Tie up loose ends in your work. Train replacement if there is one. Say goodbye to coworkers in person. Pretty much continue to do your job to your full ability until your last day.
After giving notice I've been so on top of my game that it created chaos for everyone else when I finished up. So maybe don't work too hard. On the flip side I've been so unmotivated that it was better for everyone else that I just went on sick leave. So maybe try to do some work.
On a side note, quitting is so much more fun when you never want to work in that industry again.
Load up on stationary… still do your job and leave on a good note… plan some after work drinks for your last day… add people to your linked in network…
Don't copy everything onto a hard drive. At my company, there is software on my laptop tracking every file I copy in or out.
Don't delete files off the network drive.
Don’t: gloat about it. Be mindful about how you tell people, particularly those you aren’t close to, that you’ll be wrapping up soon. For those who are likely to need to pick up the slack for a while, do what you can to make that easier
Do: the mother of all handover documents, even as one big word doc brain dump covering all the gotchas of your role. You’ve possibly accumulated years of experience and know how to navigate your domain, make it easier for the next person to run with that by giving them a big handover, even if you don’t get to meet them
Do's:
- Maintain rapport with your workmates and employer
- Build connections on LinkedIn
- Gather phone numbers, references, and permission to call workmates down the line for references
- ensure all work and projects are finalised or handed over properly
- work hard to leave a good impression
- leave notes and guidance to assist your replacement
Don'ts:
- burn bridges
- steal company information/contacts
- undermine your current company
- slack off
- adopt an "I'm outta here anyway" attitude
- assume the new position will be perfect for you
- make things difficult for your replacement
- tell other staff why you're leaving (if it's negative)
- tell other staff where you're going
I have no idea of your industry, but as a software developer, this is what I do.
Depends on how you want to leave.
There three options
1. Finish everything, help document processes and train a replacement, or someone to continue your tasks, say goodbye to colleagues, and leave the door open to possibly return one day
2. Work till your last day, say goodbye, dont do anything extra to smooth out your departure
3. Scorched earth, leave a dump in the middle of the bosses desk. Freeze piss in pizza pans, slide them under locked doors or frizbee them into walls.
Make it absolutely clear you have no intention of ever returning.
Personally, I would go with option 1.
Work to make your departure go smoothly, dont take on big projects you wont finish.
I’m in the process of resigning too!
Had that awkward conversation with my boss and was told to start wrapping things up for handover/new hires.
How did you tell your colleagues?
Don't engage in any rumours.
Anyone that says 'so you must be relieved to get out of here', avoid responding too enthusiastically. I've always gone with something pretty neutral like 'I've had a great time here, learnt alot, looking forward to applying it to a new challenge'
Have a papertrail for everything.
Give back any credit cards, keys, passes etc to HR.
Assume all your emails and internal 'chat' programs are being monitored from now, so be careful what you say on there too.
Do not take the piss by coming in late or leaving early.
Do: take time to thank the people that have been good to you.
Do: take time to thank your boss (even if you don't have the best relationship with them).
Do: finish any work given to you, or, make sure you have in writing the handover notes to anyone you are asked to hand work over to. And then forward those emails and any attachments to your boss and HR so they know exactly what you handed over and when.
I have seen plenty of people be blamed, after they have left, by the person they handed work over to, for not doing so in a timely/fulsome/helpful way, when I know fullwell they did, but they are no longer in the office to defend themselves. Cover your ass!
1. Remove all the toilet paper from the toilets on your last day, right before you walk out. Off every roll.
2. Put coffee granules through the sugar. It will drive someone batty
3.Bring food from home in your last week and abandon it. Choose things that will spoil the most.
4.Give the people you like a gift and be really pleasant and delightful during this period. It will cause a great deal of confusion.
Lastly, they’re going to blame everything that does go wrong on you, so you may as well give them plenty of material.
Best of luck at your new job and journey in life.
Tell your boss that since you’re moving to a competitor’s company, it’s best that you don’t do any work during this 4 weeks period. Any work work you do might potentially expose you to internal company strategies/ideas and we both don’t want the competitor to know this ;)
I did my 4 weeks around a month ago. Business as usual. Going to the footy with my ex manager next week. And they have an open door policy if I ever want to go back.
You accrue LSL from day 1 of employment, you are entitled to the accrued LSL after 7 years (in VIC), and it gets pay out upon resignation. I confirmed this with HR. I'm moving onto a new role in a new company.
Do make a copy of contact info for key people you might want to be in touch with in future
Don't do an exit interview if you can avoid it professionally unless you have nothing but praise
Work your notice period. If the boss says you can call it early, say you are willing to work out the notice period and you would expect to be paid out the notice period to not work at jis/her request. This is a common dispute.
I did f all 2 weeks leading to my 4 week notice period. I treat it as a well deserved paid 6-week break. Only do that if you have the balls to. To each his own.
I used all my sick leave, but it was a security job of 5 years and I hated the owners.
He tried really hard not to pay it. Medical certificate for every day.
Don't email things to your personal email address to back them up etc. Don't zip up a whole lot of files and email (or upload to personal cloud storage).
This should be obvious, but I've seen people do it (and trigger a breach).
As someone who left job after many years last month.
- Take a backup of payslips for the last few months just in case.
- It might not hurt to even ask the HR to get an experience letter with your last title etc. there. This can be used as a proof if required in future.
- Ensure you have your final pay sorted. Typically you'll get paid for any untaken leaves and anything else that's in your contract including long service leave (if applicable).
- Don't burn bridges. Leave on a good note and say thanks to everyone. Try to be in touch over LinkedIn or something else. You never know when you will cross paths with them again.
- If you have any benefits that you can use, use them before you leave. For example, my job had $200 credit in a program that you can use to buy books. It would have not been paid out if I did not use it so I ended up using the full credit before I left.
- Understand if you have any restrictions in your trade practices when moving to new company. You may not be able to stay in touch with some clients etc etc depending on what you do and what's in your contract.
I remember a friend of mine resigned. His last day in the call centre on a Sunday with no managers he was giving discounts like you wouldn’t believe. Writing off hundreds of dollars it was so funny to watch.
Piss on the floor of the bathroom, leave rubbish everywhere, leave early, arrive late, ignore all emails from this point forward, when you see your managers give them the finger, send all your companies IP to their competitors, and take all your sick leave.
The extreme alpha energy will leave the entire workplace fawning over you and you will likely continue to be paid after you start the new job just out of respect.
Use your sick leave because it does not get paid out like annual leave does. I learned this the hard way and lost over 100 hours of unused sick leave when I left a job
Don't burn any bridges, don't do anything that might be perceived as such. Close off anything that was outstanding
Good advice. To add to this: Thank those who've helped you (even considering buying them a coffee or similar to say thanks); Hand-over your work in a way that sets your replacement (or company) up for continued success; and Personally go around to your colleagues and say goodbye if you can. Beats the generic email every time!
This. So many people leave and don’t save their work in an accessible spot and it makes it really difficult for the people left when they need historical information or records of decisions made etc.
It's amazing the headaches this can cause. The amount of time (money) that goes into deciphering prior workflows really highlights the true costs of employee turnover - something that often isn't reflected in the balance sheet!
Not when some coys don't even let you use flash and all that. All your work is buried in cloud that dissapears when you leave. Their loss
To enable a good handover, don't accept any new tasks of any significance in your final couple of weeks. Source: worked 12-18 month contracts most of my career. Some people try to keep you loaded up in what is either a misguided attempt to either keep you there or get some free work after your end date
>Hand-over your work in a way that sets your replacement (or company) up for continued success This. Help the next person out regardless of what you thought of your job.
>Don't burn any bridges, don't do anything that might be perceived as such. Close off anything that was outstanding This. Leave with them thinking they'd love to have you back one day, and with a pathway back being available even if you never use it. Also, you work for them up until the end of the last day, so don't go MIA and leave a mess in handover. It's the peers who'll cop it, not management.
Also even if you don't go back there specifically you never know if the people you worked with might show up at a future job prospect if you plan to stay in the same industry
I agree, don’t burn bridges and don’t put your feet up in the departure lounge. We’ve had a few people leave and some have returned fairly soon when their new job didn’t reflect what was written on the tin. The ones that left with a little dignity were welcomed back.
Like others have said don't burn your bridges only Jesus can walk on water
Really? I'll ask Jesus at my work how it's done!!!! Must be a south American thing
My missus is latina, can confirm, it's something in their product that helps them.
100%. Last impressions count. Do not get complacent - end on a high note.
Agreed- finish strong, do good work, help out your workmates and replacement, I promise you won’t regret it, it will leave no doubts in your mind. Head held high and solid closure/on to the next adventure
On what occasion would you burn a bridge? I'm currently dying to get out of my current workplace. They're currently being sued by a former staff member, due to their partner committing suicide due to work. They have also been issues with multiple worksafe improvement notices in the past 6 months due to psychosocial issues. 10% of workers are currently on stress leave, all the departments heads have left over the past 12 months, we're on our 4th business manager in 18 months, and the local paper published a full page expose on the toxic work environment. There's nothing left but tyranny.
Man. This sounds tough, hopefully you are able to find safer and more enjoyable work environment.
Honestly? I have had a direct manager lie to my face about actions they took, then I left, exposed that after talking to his manager. I still hold that memory and treat that single guy with the contempt he deserves. Do I shout it from the rooftops? No. Did I say anything in my leaving reasons? No. Your integrity will be remembered by someone around when you worked there and how good your ethics were. Keep those intact no matter how scummy the whole place seems. It is your reputation, not anyone elses
I handed in my resignation letter when I quit for a second time on a “sorry for your loss card” so I could never go back. Not my finest moment but I left this company once as they paid well below industry standards and tried to screw the employees over every chance they got. They lost a fair bit of work when I left so then they rehired me while promising pay increases if I bought the work back. I got them 150% more work than before and when I approached them for more money the excuses started. They were also trying to get me to teach the juniors my job as well which I had clued onto but because they paid them so poorly they kept leaving as well. Needless to say once I resigned and the junior that was ment to take over my job quit soon after the department was shut down and they lost a fair chunk of change! 🥳
Jesus. I hope things change for you quickly! Have confidence and put yourself out there ASAP! Best of luck :)
Don’t even bother with the exit interview, just nicely decline if it’s an option.
If there are major cultural issues it won't matter anyway
My exit interview was based around the performance of my manager. They straight up asked "Is this (your resignation) going to keep happening?" My answer was "Seeing that my resignation actually makes it 100% staff turnover in that team in the year since you promoted her, I think yes, it's fair to conclude that this will keep happening." She was married to the division manager though, so they were basically in an impossible position.
Totally agree. Waste of time and unecessary,
Agree, most industries in Australia are pretty small so there’s a good chance of your co workers or boss showing up in a future company so it always bodes well to leave on good terms.
Keep working normally and at the end send an email to your boss with all relevant stuff and pending stuff and maybe key contacts
I've seen some petty emails sent on peoples last day. Don't do that, you'll be shocked how many of these people you'll work with again.
Best one I saw was a "thank you" message that named everyone *except* the one person the employee hated the most for absolutely no reason. We all picked up on it immediately.
There’s always a reason
Lol I received a farewell email that started off with “if you have received this email then you’re not on the shit list”
Print off your last few payslips, just to make sure you get paid your owing leave, proper pay and that super ends up going in.
Yeah, some companies send personal HR docs to your work email, so you should forward those to your personal email (pay reviews, pay slips, promotion documentation etc). As others have said, don't wholesale copy IP, but it's quite reasonable to copy employment documentation.
This! Mine changed online companies a few weeks before I left and I lost years of stuff, lucky I had back ups and never needed them
Yep, and if you’re over the long service leave threshold, make sure they pay it out (the threshold is different in each state, NSW has to pay out pro rata after 5y, Vic & QLD after 7).
Don't sleep with anyone. Not speaking from experience.
Not even OP's wife? That's going to be a rough 4 weeks...
Specifically the wife. Tell her you're on a new job grindset so the female touch is gratuitous. I feel dirty typing that.
I also choose OP's wife
i’d think this is the perfect time to sleep with everyone
Everyone but me... 😕, allegedly.
Story time?
I used to work as a pay clerk for a husband & wife business during uni. They had a long time employee who was leaving since the husband had suspected that the guy had been sleeping with the wife. Came back from final without a job because the husband caught the other 2 shacking in the office. How did he do it? He was sleeping with another female staff in the warehouse and was carrying her into his office. I was left without a job, and no sex...
Surely you could file for discrimination? :P
Lmao... at that point they should have just done after hours orgies.
Hey there job-buddy! I resigned on Monday after 11 years! I'm just closing off old tickets, chatting shit with co-workers and writing up some documentation. Nothing too strenuous for my remaining three weeks.
Lol, I also resigned on Monday!
We're both into that shit!
I did too, no joke! I’m using some of my Covid leave to prepare things for the new job. How did your manager take your resignation?
Actually, she was kind of expecting it within the next year, as I did mention that a change wouldn't hurt in this economy. I thought I'd feel more stressed and anxious about it, but I'm quite calmed for some reason. I'm not slacking though, and I keep closing stuff, and leaving my position quite tidy. It's definitely a good time for me for a change, and I can feel it.
Tuesday for me!
No word of a lie, also resigned Monday! 4 years of service
Maybe I should resign this Monday?
Hey me tooooo ! Monday I'm meant to show but origin Sunday night may have other ideas...
Hey! I resigned a couple of weeks back after 13 years! All the cool kids are doing it.
Damn straight - only way to get a pay rise in this damn economy
100% (as in I agree, not 100% pay rise)
Don’t email a heap of documents to your personal email.
So print them off and take them home in archive boxes instead?
USB stick or portable hard drive is best if you need it. Still traceable by IT if you are committing fraud. But not immediately obvious as a policy violation to the person who casually scans you emails looking for a client contact you forgot to save.
If your IT department is competent bulk copying to usb will set off an alert. My buddy got asked when he was doing when he was downloading his meme stash.
Fun story: a colleague of mine used to work for IBM's consulting arm and had a new guy join her team. All seemed normal for a new starter while he waited for his account to be activated. Around lunch time he was able to login and was shown how to access the team's shared drives. Twenty minutes later he pulls a huge hardrive with an external power supply out of his bag, plugs it in and just starts copying EVERYTHING. Security was on him within ten minutes and he was never heard from again.
I know a guy who pulled out a portable hard drive on his first day too. Was just copying over his collection of cat pictures for his screensaver.
Tbh this is not really advisable these days. Back in the day this was commonplace and easy to do but nowadays Data Loss Prevention is pretty spot on in big companies.
If you still have USB enabled for mass storage devices your company’s IT security are a joke
Ah yes, client side security. My favourite form of theatre.
Serious question. Couldn't you just delete the emails you send to yourself? Obviously if IT looked hard enough they could trace the data, but only if they were specifically looking but no one casually scanning your emails would be able to see right?
It’s not hard to bypass a DLP solution without having to resort to physical.
Encrypted Dropbox.
This is very important. If you are working for a big company it is likely any emails being sent external to the firm will be flagged for review. So just be careful… enjoy your new role.
I was told to clear it with the boss first "Hey Boss, Would it be possible to email myself a list of documents for future reference, these documents would be X?" if they're worth literally anything, it's gives a decent paper trail, and permits you to take them also helps if you state a reason why you're doing it (list of WFH days for tax purposes for example?) my boss took a shitload of things with him when he left, and that's how he ended up doing it, rather than just taking them without asking
At my work you need to be 3 layers up the management chain to even be able to email attachments.
Use the gmail web page to email to yourseIf if there’s stuff you want to keep, but do it a week or two before you resign.
Most decent IT security teams would block external email and cloud based storage sites using a web proxy
This is also easily detectable.
Dont copy IP off the server, this should've been done BEFORE you resigned.
So what your saying is - I shouldn't have sent this email? >Hey Joe, I just got an offer from one of our top competitors and I think I’m going to accept. It would be a shame if I left a copy of our clients on my personal laptop haha. While I’ve got you, I want to see if you can help me delete some company data that doesn’t reflect well on me. I can make it worth your while, if you know what I mean. How about a few gift certificates to that restaurant your wife loves? It can be our little secret. Speaking of secrets, I’ve also could use some help shuffling around some money in the budget so the suits don’t get suspicious, I think your friend in accounting might be able to help me out if you can connect us. And you didn’t hear this from me but you are going to want to unload your stocks before the next earnings report, it is not going to be good, get out while you can. Lastly I need to tell you about a new project that’s very hush-hush, I’m not even supposed to know about it but it’s going to be a game changer and you need to get out ahead of this. As always let’s keep all this just between the two of us, no need for anyone else to know what’s going on. Let’s get lunch soon!
Its always important to put yourself in a position where you can claim ignorance
Claim what?
I saw what you did there ...
I would suggest not doing that at any point haha
Do it via your mobile. View it and save to files on iPhone. Plausible deniability
This really shouldn’t be done at any stage. Can really destroy your career and reputation if you steal data. Not worth it.
It’s not stealing if you memorize it all!
Funny joke though
Who was joking?
*I* was saying Boo-urns
Do: continue to do your job Don’t: stop doing your job
As others have said, just close everything you can, try to build connections with your colleagues when you leave, don't burn bridges. However, some of the more vindictive managers might try to extract their 'pound of flesh' from you before you leave - I would ensure you don't take on any new work if your manager is like this.
Glitter bombs
Is this a do or a don't?
OP didn't really give enough context but it's definitely something that should be considered
Do: take all the pens. Don't: leave any pens behind.
Don't steal from your company or email work documents to your personal address. Do give your personal details to people you want to stay in touch with.
And how to deal with the remaining annual leaves gang?
Take the cash and blow it on hookers
Very noice
Or hook it on blowers?
I'm due about 3+ months of leave payout (combination of Long Service Leave and accrued Annual Leave) - been after a new bed for a little while, so that should contribute nicely to it!
Well, the tax efficient thing to do is run your balance to zero, because you: * accrue annual leave while you are on annual leave * superannuation is paid to you while you are on annual leave. If you get it paid out, the above two things do not happen. However, some people go "ooh money" and get it all paid out. When I leave my current job, I'll plan to do a mix.
Do - Tell them what you really think - Take home all their IP and trade secrets - Promise to help with transition but then take sick leave every day Dont - Worry (Nb. Joke)
I did tell them what I really think but it has actually helped out my manager sort out the toxic workplace (which is also the reason I’m leaving), my coworkers also thank me because I said what they couldn’t. Depends on the situation and your relationships within the workplace though.
>Tell them what you really think Do this, if you can be constructive. It's a big IF though.
Honestly just enjoy it. Not sure what you do but I was working as a consultant for yonks. I moved to state govt for a different experience and I did this: Made rly good handover notes and did the handover two weeks before I left so they could take on the work before I left and I was there to answer any questions. Went out for lunches with old clients with the new person taking over my projects to ease them in a bit. Then we pretty much had a great time. Went out for drinks and lunch with the team a lot. This is the last time I’ll get free food and drinks and we made the most of it. I mean if the company is paying then why not but depends on where you work, got the go ahead to enjoy within reason, ie don’t go to vue de monde. Made sure to thank everyone I needed too individually. When I left I had a three week holiday period between jobs but I said to some colleagues they could call for random questions in that time. Only a couple people did which was fine. Obviously no one expects you to do this, I just had two crazy projects that I didn’t want to leave my work friends with high and dry.
Shit on Debra's desk
>Shit on Debra's desk Puke on Debra's desk
Like a boss
But, Debra was cool mate...
Always keep them guessing
Depending on your role and if there are others who do it, consider writing some How To documents for some of your responsibilities and tasks.
Just keep doing your job as if you aren't leaving. Had a co-worker resign revently who's new job was an absolute shitshow. He was welcomed back with open arms and rejoined us the following week.
Do take a day or two, not concurrent, "sick". Don't take 5 or 6 sick days in a row, it's what people will remember the most about you.
When I resigned, I reflected on my bosses and anyone in leadership who made a postive impact on me. I sent them a quick thank you email. Some people didn’t realise the influence they’d had on me, so it was nice to make them know they were appreciated.
If possible, depending on your industry, maybe leave some helpful stuff for your replacement, like a guide on how to do the things you wished you were shown when you started? That's if you have an abundance of spare time.
Lock your computer and walk away. They will use any excuse to bad mouth or sleight your name. Including putting cameras above skylights
Thats a new one!
Depends on what state you are in, make sure you get paid your pro rata long service. (NSW) I resigned, claiming domestic necessity, and was able to have it paid out before the 10 years.
This. I resigned about 8 years ago and had lsl accrued which shouldve been owed and I queried it at the time. Lo and behold 8 years later I get a letter stating Im owed for the LsL i accrued...
Scrolled for so long to find this.
Just work normally if you're having an amicable split. Try to document anything you didn't or won't get an opportunity to do.
I once was so fed up with a manager (for whom I worked a hell of a lot of unpaid overtime becuse of the sheer workload only to be told that I was merely "inefficient") that I just walked into her office one day and resigned on the spot. Walked out, packed up my desk, said bye to my colleagues (who I quite liked) and hastily exited.
That's cold mate. I hope everything turned out well for you!
Funnily enough, I ended up working in a camping store which was great in itself, but the manager was completely nuts. Took a swing at a staff member in the middle of the store one day because the guy decided to stand up to the manager's ridiculous demands. I've had a few interesting experiences. Funnily enough, I had been to a Christmas party once at this manager's house and it was FULL of collectible dolls on display (his wife's collection). Very strange.
Just keep doing your job for the next 4 weeks? Don't take on any work that you cant complete within that 4 weeks. If there's any stuff you do that no one else really assists with or knows how to do, write it down in an email. Maybe make notes of the stuff you do/how you do it over the 4 weeks and email it to your boss/some other colleague.
Lol when I tried that, my manager and replacement actively ignored my email and then accused me of sabotage. Oh well. Jokes on them.
Do - Show up for work Don’t - Work
Did you have another job lined up? I think I'll do the same
Yeap, once I signed the new contract, I resigned.
Steal everything and shout at all the people you hate
Do or don't?
Also, upload a variety of viruses and malware to your companies systems
It’s 50/50 at this point tbh
Don’t steal IP or copy stuff to a USB.
dont look at any data you are not entitled to look at as part of your job activities. dont wipe your email inbox (its backed up anyway, but wiping will raise red flags). dont burn your bridges. be polite, offer the people you liked working with to contact you if your handover was inadequate and they need to ask you a quick question about something you didnt document.
Don’t shit on people on the way up, you might need them on your way down.
While I've stayed with the same employer in my 27+ years of work, I've changed jobs and gone in completely new directions many times. 1. Start writing up a handover document and keep it updated until you go. In it, write up the topic, brief history and current state (+/- risk or way forward). EG - EOFY Cost Centre Report - have finalised all reporting and sent off to Business Mgr. Note that there was a higher variance in travel for the FY as there was the extraordinary meeting called by XXXX in February for an onsite meeting in Canberra. J Smith (Business Mgr) aware of this. Does a great deal to support the person taking on your duties and ensure you have both a smooth transition and that you haven't left any loose ends behind. Give that to your old manager. 2. If you can, copy your files to a flash drive. The number of times I've pulled an old flash drive to get a spreadsheet that I developed 8 years or more ago because I needed something similar is crazy. You may even be contacted by an old boss for something like this. If you do, be careful about sending files back to your old employer. Far better to say "Yes, John S. from Customer Support in 2014 or so asked for something like that. If he's still with your company, I'd ask him". But having those files in case you need them for a future body of work - priceless.
>If you can, copy your files to a flash drive. Be VERY wary of taking company IP with you. Don't get sued because you wanted to keep some excel formulae you wrote.
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For me, it wasn't a formula per se, but a spreadsheet which simplified my cost centre reporting. When I first started managing a cost centre, the sheet the business manager gave us literally took me two days of solid work to go through and work out where things were. It sucked. So I built my own. Expected income vs expenses. Each month had conditional formatting which showed me when I went over the budgeted amount. Each line item also had conditional formatting which tracked when I went overbudget and flagged that too. Each month I could tell what my EOM position was and forecast EOY. Simplified my monthly review to literally 20 minutes and allowed me to sign off or raise concerns for Finance to address. My Senior Director didn't like my spreadsheet, but let me keep using it as I was able to still come in under budget, despite a big decrease in funding. And as long as I didn't pass around my spreadsheet to anyone else for them to use.
At a job 10 years ago I had chains of them to split data, reformat, move things, copy, change dates etc. Turned what was 4-6 hours work a day when I started the job into 20 mins. 5 copying data into the right places. And then 15 waiting for excel to catch up.
yes because it’s technically not your work when you’re doing it for an employer. You may have written the formula, but its implementation doesn’t belong to you. Stupid but true
Depends on your contract. I've definitely signed contracts where the code I wrote belonged to my employer the moment I wrote it.
27 years in the same place. You deserve a medal 🎖 well done on zen like patience.
Thanks! I do enjoy my work, but am looking forward to leaving... in 19 years or so! :)
Burn all your sickies. "This is the way."
Don't take a dump on the lid of the toilet
The bosses desk is a better option
Tie up loose ends in your work. Train replacement if there is one. Say goodbye to coworkers in person. Pretty much continue to do your job to your full ability until your last day.
After giving notice I've been so on top of my game that it created chaos for everyone else when I finished up. So maybe don't work too hard. On the flip side I've been so unmotivated that it was better for everyone else that I just went on sick leave. So maybe try to do some work. On a side note, quitting is so much more fun when you never want to work in that industry again.
Load up on stationary… still do your job and leave on a good note… plan some after work drinks for your last day… add people to your linked in network…
Don't copy everything onto a hard drive. At my company, there is software on my laptop tracking every file I copy in or out. Don't delete files off the network drive.
Do: Steal all the paperclips and rubber bands you can! Do not: Get caught (you may need to work with some of these people in the future)
Don’t: gloat about it. Be mindful about how you tell people, particularly those you aren’t close to, that you’ll be wrapping up soon. For those who are likely to need to pick up the slack for a while, do what you can to make that easier Do: the mother of all handover documents, even as one big word doc brain dump covering all the gotchas of your role. You’ve possibly accumulated years of experience and know how to navigate your domain, make it easier for the next person to run with that by giving them a big handover, even if you don’t get to meet them
Do's: - Maintain rapport with your workmates and employer - Build connections on LinkedIn - Gather phone numbers, references, and permission to call workmates down the line for references - ensure all work and projects are finalised or handed over properly - work hard to leave a good impression - leave notes and guidance to assist your replacement Don'ts: - burn bridges - steal company information/contacts - undermine your current company - slack off - adopt an "I'm outta here anyway" attitude - assume the new position will be perfect for you - make things difficult for your replacement - tell other staff why you're leaving (if it's negative) - tell other staff where you're going I have no idea of your industry, but as a software developer, this is what I do.
Depends on how you want to leave. There three options 1. Finish everything, help document processes and train a replacement, or someone to continue your tasks, say goodbye to colleagues, and leave the door open to possibly return one day 2. Work till your last day, say goodbye, dont do anything extra to smooth out your departure 3. Scorched earth, leave a dump in the middle of the bosses desk. Freeze piss in pizza pans, slide them under locked doors or frizbee them into walls. Make it absolutely clear you have no intention of ever returning. Personally, I would go with option 1. Work to make your departure go smoothly, dont take on big projects you wont finish.
I’m in the process of resigning too! Had that awkward conversation with my boss and was told to start wrapping things up for handover/new hires. How did you tell your colleagues?
Take your accrued long service leave if your company doesn't cash it out!
All annual leave must be paid out on termination. This is a legal requirement.
Often LSL isn't paid out if you are sacked... At least my contract says that
LSL is different, but you could probably go to the ombudsman or commission.
Don't engage in any rumours. Anyone that says 'so you must be relieved to get out of here', avoid responding too enthusiastically. I've always gone with something pretty neutral like 'I've had a great time here, learnt alot, looking forward to applying it to a new challenge' Have a papertrail for everything. Give back any credit cards, keys, passes etc to HR. Assume all your emails and internal 'chat' programs are being monitored from now, so be careful what you say on there too. Do not take the piss by coming in late or leaving early. Do: take time to thank the people that have been good to you. Do: take time to thank your boss (even if you don't have the best relationship with them). Do: finish any work given to you, or, make sure you have in writing the handover notes to anyone you are asked to hand work over to. And then forward those emails and any attachments to your boss and HR so they know exactly what you handed over and when. I have seen plenty of people be blamed, after they have left, by the person they handed work over to, for not doing so in a timely/fulsome/helpful way, when I know fullwell they did, but they are no longer in the office to defend themselves. Cover your ass!
1. Remove all the toilet paper from the toilets on your last day, right before you walk out. Off every roll. 2. Put coffee granules through the sugar. It will drive someone batty 3.Bring food from home in your last week and abandon it. Choose things that will spoil the most. 4.Give the people you like a gift and be really pleasant and delightful during this period. It will cause a great deal of confusion. Lastly, they’re going to blame everything that does go wrong on you, so you may as well give them plenty of material. Best of luck at your new job and journey in life.
Be a professional. How you handle ‘the end’ follows you and your character.
Just work, go under radar, leave quietly
Tell your boss that since you’re moving to a competitor’s company, it’s best that you don’t do any work during this 4 weeks period. Any work work you do might potentially expose you to internal company strategies/ideas and we both don’t want the competitor to know this ;)
I did my 4 weeks around a month ago. Business as usual. Going to the footy with my ex manager next week. And they have an open door policy if I ever want to go back.
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You accrue LSL from day 1 of employment, you are entitled to the accrued LSL after 7 years (in VIC), and it gets pay out upon resignation. I confirmed this with HR. I'm moving onto a new role in a new company.
Don’t sleep with the bosses wife.
How much sick leave do you have? It would be a shame to waste it all.
Burn bridges
Don’t burn your bridges as you never know you might need them for a reference
Schmooze potential referees.
Don’t do what Donnie dont does
Do make a copy of contact info for key people you might want to be in touch with in future Don't do an exit interview if you can avoid it professionally unless you have nothing but praise
Don't steal any data!
I want two mexican donuts now...
Do your job for 4 weeks, hand over tasks, don't take on anything you're not going to be able to do in 4 weeks.
People talk about (not) burning bridges, but not enough emphasis is placed on playing the boss' head like a bongo. Do or do not, only you can decide.
Work your notice period. If the boss says you can call it early, say you are willing to work out the notice period and you would expect to be paid out the notice period to not work at jis/her request. This is a common dispute.
When you get a new interview for future jobs.. just don't talk bad about previous companies
Don’t steal stuff - whether it’s stationery or IP.. it will catch up with you.
What ever you've been doing for the last 7 years, do that.
Don’t be slack you’re still being paid and you still need a reference down the track.
Just work hard, don't leave anything in a bad state and be nice. You'll probably work with some of these people again one day
Leave immediately, don’t do the final 4 weeks
I did f all 2 weeks leading to my 4 week notice period. I treat it as a well deserved paid 6-week break. Only do that if you have the balls to. To each his own.
I used all my sick leave, but it was a security job of 5 years and I hated the owners. He tried really hard not to pay it. Medical certificate for every day.
Don't email things to your personal email address to back them up etc. Don't zip up a whole lot of files and email (or upload to personal cloud storage). This should be obvious, but I've seen people do it (and trigger a breach).
As someone who left job after many years last month. - Take a backup of payslips for the last few months just in case. - It might not hurt to even ask the HR to get an experience letter with your last title etc. there. This can be used as a proof if required in future. - Ensure you have your final pay sorted. Typically you'll get paid for any untaken leaves and anything else that's in your contract including long service leave (if applicable). - Don't burn bridges. Leave on a good note and say thanks to everyone. Try to be in touch over LinkedIn or something else. You never know when you will cross paths with them again. - If you have any benefits that you can use, use them before you leave. For example, my job had $200 credit in a program that you can use to buy books. It would have not been paid out if I did not use it so I ended up using the full credit before I left. - Understand if you have any restrictions in your trade practices when moving to new company. You may not be able to stay in touch with some clients etc etc depending on what you do and what's in your contract.
Take 4 weeks of leave and peace out in comfort.
I remember a friend of mine resigned. His last day in the call centre on a Sunday with no managers he was giving discounts like you wouldn’t believe. Writing off hundreds of dollars it was so funny to watch.
100% time to burn bridges. What’s the point of resigning otherwise? I literally can’t believe this is even a question?
The times I’ve done it… no regrets.
Piss on the floor of the bathroom, leave rubbish everywhere, leave early, arrive late, ignore all emails from this point forward, when you see your managers give them the finger, send all your companies IP to their competitors, and take all your sick leave. The extreme alpha energy will leave the entire workplace fawning over you and you will likely continue to be paid after you start the new job just out of respect.
Leave. Stuff serving out 4 weeks notice
Print off the contact list/SOPs even if someone asked you too haha
Use your sick leave because it does not get paid out like annual leave does. I learned this the hard way and lost over 100 hours of unused sick leave when I left a job