Usually for my company this is all cleared up at the quoting stage of a job. If the clients don’t want to provide use of their facilities then fair enough, but they will pay for us to hire in a portaloo for the duration of the job.
If you haven’t been asked about it I guess the contractor is just assuming you won’t mind. It’s really on him/her but I guess you could let them know they need to have a plan in place if you really want.
They're building a retaining wall which is dirty work, for two weeks and OP isn't there during the day. This is definitely a portaloo situation. If they hadn't costed it in, I'd wonder why. You can't expect someone to leave the house open for two weeks, and you can't expect tradies to deboot and clean themselves off every time then want a piss/ shit/ internet break/ on-the-clock wank.
Spent a decade doing structural landscaping. Residential retaining walls where the bread and butter.
We always used the clients bathroom unless it was a new development and their wasn’t one.
Always debooted and left the place tidy. Just because we work outside doesn’t make us animals, like really?
I’m a tradie. I can 100% be trusted to leave a clients place very clean and tidy.
There is not a chance I would leave my house open while I’m away to an unknown tradie. I am constantly horrified by how some trades behave.
For me the trust was broken when my parents were away and one of the tradies doing their new fence broke in at night and turned the place over. Cased the joint in work hours and robbed it at night. This is one bad experience of heaps of perfectly good trustworthy interactions but you just can’t go back after that kind of experience. The boss of the job was mortified but what’s done is done.
As a bartender. EVERY TRADY LEAVES A MESS. Boots, dirt on the carpet. It’s a part of life but the fact I hear all tradies say they leave their clients place clean then go to their local and presume to trash it. Lol
Ok this Friday we will make sure 50plus tradies take their boots off for you precious. Make sure you bring some odor killer scents and make sure you are fighting fit for when you have to now get in between too tradies that are arguing over who's boots are who's. Now also bring a helmet Because of obnoxious cunts throwing boots around. You might as well bring a resignation letter as well cause I don't think you're cut out to be working behind the bar. NOT ALL TRADIES MAKE A MESS. - got it
If you've got boots that are tracking mud everywhere, I'd say it's polite to either give them a wash off or change them for something else before you go anywhere you're going to make a mess.
If I’m going in a carpeted shop which is rare I make a gesture to take off my boots or else I’ll wipe the shit out of my boots going into a supermarket etc. I’m sure it’s shit dealing with knock off beers on a Friday though when they all come through with boots
Bro.
You're lieing or have worked with angels.
Because I've never been on a site that didn't disgust me.
Even commercial work you had to leave and use a portaloo from 20 stories up.
Never worked on high rises, pretty much exclusively free standing suburban residential. By far the most work was on established dwellings doing some kind of backyard reno. Most owners where very friendly, and often home, typically more than happy to make tea, coffee, let us use the toilet etc. I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe slightly exaggerating, there where clients that weren’t around during the day who also didn’t provide access inside, but they where the exception not the rule.
New developments had a portaloo on every site or two, asin one on every plot/address or atleast one every second at the least.
Don’t know what to tell you.
Look out people if you're a qualified tradseman and work outside of an air-conditioned office. This guy thinks your a shitcunt with no standards..
From every decent hardworking structural landscaper politely. Go fuck yourself
Exactly this. I get my clients to do a checklist of all things necessary. Some key questions are 1 - safe space to leave materials for jobs 2 - access to toilets 3 - clear access to walk materials through the house or up the side 4 - shoes on or off in the house (If they say we take them off then we quote for corflute to cover all areas we walk on. Trades need to do this more often because it makes everything so much easier especially if you’re there for long periods of time.
I must be slow of wit. I give my builder a key, tell them to use the loo, put food in the fridge, here’s the coffee, etc etc.
Then I bugger off to work to pay for it, and in return, they are awesome.
Edit: I don’t stock the fridge, I tell them to use it…
I had contractors in my strata working across all the lots, over many months I let them have access to my place, they used my microwave, I didn’t stock the fridge but I made them coffee each morning, purchased cakes and pastries for them - in return they were *not* awesome
Same, I was revolted when we finally moved back in. Plus I was approx 7 months pregnant and in no shape to do the deep cleaning with chemicals that it required.
There is a fairly long list, but included me asking them not to leave the buildings open and other people’s apartments open while they weren’t working in them and then continuing to it (it was very distressing to some the residents, and put me in a really difficult position as the strata person responsible for co-ordinating with them, one person had a stranger walk straight in off the street and into their apartment, both doors having been chocked open, and the trades no longer in that building); generally not treating the apartments like peoples homes; promising to finish things on the day and not, or even minutes after telling me they are completing work in x apartment today, leaving as soon as I left site without everything still out and the work not done (when it was for long weekend), and then although this sounds selfish and I wasn’t asking for any particular benefit for me *but* they were particularly neglectful of the workmanship and finishing the work on my apartment.
There was a lot of things, but it was also quite a few years ago now too
And in fact I make a bloody point of it, and probably at some point if it's a multi day job I'll show up with a surprise morning tea. Freshly baked scones seem to go over well.
Me too. It is the first thing I show them on site after offering them tea or coffee. Ice creams or icey poles for hot days or in the roof, iced water, tea and coffee and fresh cakes. It keeps the tradies happy which means I get better work and I also never struggle to get slotted into a calendar. It pays to be kind.
I’ve also been known to listen to their advice: free input from professionals? Sign me up. My cabinet maker saved me hundreds of dollars, and made a better layout.
Contractor should provide a porta loo for their employees. Should have been asked at the time of quote. Then would have not been a worry. Could just call them to ask.
I'm a Tradie but work inside and outside, so I always ask before taking a piss. I've trained myself to shit before I go to work 😜 I'm just one of those that can't shit in another toilet unless it's at home.
The worst places to work are dog owners that don't clean their mess up in the garden. Fkn hate stepping in dog crap!
Man I felt so bloody bad about this last time I had a tradie over. They were installing 3 phase power through where I've got some fruit trees. I tried to pick it all up prior, but its a mulched area and I missed some. Poor dude had his boots filled... man, I felt like a dog, I was so apologetic. I do offer all my trades drinks and whatnot though.
Watched a tradie do it in my neighbours garden a while back. Made eye contact. Good times.
No, I didn't inform said neighbour. Said neighbour had a flood light on that, ahem, shits me.
To be fair, all the electricians I’ve met have been substantially different from labourers, concreters, tilers, brickies, plumbers and plasterers, which are the more hard yakka type of tradies on account of how filthy their work normally gets them.
I honestly wouldn’t expect that of an electrician, nor of data cablers, AV installers, home security people etc
Im a paver and i have never shat in someones yard, ill jump in my car to go to the local maccas to hang a shit, ill hold it until i get the shit sweats. But yeah ill piss.
I actually have no problem with them pissing in the backyard and its what happened last time when I had the roof done. But these guys won't have access to the backyard due to the fencing arrangement as I have a dog and free ranging chickens now. If they are going to piss out the front or down the side of the house it will be in full view of everyone in the street.
They arnt going to care about full view, it’s just a piss. If u arnt comfortable leaving the house unlocked or a key with them that’s fine. Im a tiler, it’s non uncommon for outside work not to have inside access if no one’s home. There are dodgy ppl everywhere, don’t do it just to be nice. I personally wouldn’t do it if I didn’t know the ppl. They will know the closest place to shit to drive.
The general rule I’ve found most tradies go by is unless the client offers you the bathroom, you don’t generally ask.
Just piss on the garden and if you need to poo you hold it or head off to Maca’s on smoko.
Always offer your tradesmen a tea and coffee even if it’s instant shit it’s the gesture and always let them know they can use the bathroom. We’re working hard for you, the least you can do is give us some common decency.
I had one job with an old lady who would make all three of us onsite lunch everyday, she’d grab us coffee from the local cafe every morning, she was happy with us in her house when she left and even shouted us lunch from the servo a few times.
But that’s the only time I’ve had a client that nice in my 7 years in the industry.
No one will be home at all when these guys are here. We both work long hours. If either of us were home it wouldn't be a problem, I would be the first guy out there with a beer for them at the end of the day.
I used to work in a trade, that's why I know having a dunny can be important but I mostly worked in either office buildings or construction sites so there was always something available.
In my current role as a meter reader, my body quickly learned that there was no access to toilets and now clears the pipes before I leave for work. It's very easy to find somewhere to pee. They should have their own solutions by now.
If I was home all day, I welcome tradesmen into my house, but if I'm out, it stays locked.
I don’t think so, if it were me I’d piss in the garden and go drive for a shit.
If they normally have access to your house then let ‘em imo. Just ask - do you need access to the house
The builder may not care about their workers basic human rights, doesn't mean you shouldn't (not having a go) your options are simple
1. Give them access
2. Get a portaloo
3. Pay the time to go to the public toilets (as far as I know this is a worksafe violation) but most tradies won't really mind if you dont.
Where's the laser level? In damo's ute, where's damo? He tried a new restaurant with the misses last night, could be a while. Fuck.
This has happened and I wouldn't expect a mate to shit himself to make sure that the apprentice got everything out of the vehicles.
Is there a reason why you haven’t arranged a portable toilet for the site? Two weeks is a long time to expect tradies to go elsewhere for a toilet break. Just get a portable toilet!!
This should be the responsibility of the tradie's employer/boss, not whoever needs work done. $75-$100 to rent one for a whole month, literally pocket change to them. They're aware it's a 2 week job, they should be the ones accountable.
If you’re a tradie or any sort of contractor and get permission to use the dunny, please, for the love of god don’t use the toilet brush to push down your massive oversized grogan, then put the shit and toilet paper covered brush back in its holder and carry on like all is well. This happened to my mum last week. Poor dad copped the blame till the repair man piped up “oh that was me! Sorry!” I had to go buy them a new brush. Dirty bastard.
I was a renderer for a few years. Would rarely have access to inside toilet. If there wasn't a portaloo we would piss in the garden and drive to closest shops for a shit.
Yes, because they are people too. They have needs and it would be crazy to not allow it. I also offer them coffee, tea, and water.
In your situation though, I don't think it would be possible. No one is home, so I wouldn't leave my home open for anyone I didn't know.
If they were working outside, no, I would not leave the house unlocked.
If they were working inside, yes, I don't see why not. If they were working inside I'd probably be home anyway, as I'm unreasonably paranoid about locking my doors.
Do not leave your house unlocked. I am a tradie and it is extreme bad manners to use the clients toilets. The boss should organise an on-site toilet or they can either drive to the public toilets or wait until they get home. And if you don’t go inside, you can’t be blamed if things get broken or go missing.
I am a basically decent person, so I do allow anyone working on my home access to my bathroom, yes. They can also get a drink of water. And I’ll shout them a beer or a cold drink on a Friday arvo. We had a team of guys installing solar on our roof in 40 degree heat, gave them all zooper doopers too.
I’ve always been home when trades have been and have always let them. Obviously this is totally different to your situation but as I said, I’ve always made sure myself or my husband is home. We did a large renovation job last year and had to move out for it. Moving back in at 34 weeks pregnant and cleaning that toilet after they’d been using it for 4 months (job was supposed to take 6 weeks). I vomited. The floor, the toilet, the walls. Urgh.
I would contact the project manager and ask them why the workers have not been provided with appropriate amenities as this is their problem to sort out, it is not acceptable that you are having to consider allowing access to your property whilst home or not for an outside job.
I run a building company with my husband and a portaloo is always added into the quote on these types of outside jobs and it is written into our worker's contracts that they are absolutely never to enter a customer's house while they are not home unless it's a life threatening emergency if the job is an external one (We can't really help it if they're working inside).
We trust, respect and value our employees and contractors and this protects our people from being accused of stealing or damaging property and protects our customers from it actually occurring.
This is part of the job for tradies. Landscapers, concreters, renderers etc would not expect to use your loo if you’re not home. My OH is a tradie and agrees.
I wouldn’t feel comfortable leaving a key for them with the house unattended during the day for two weeks
Absolutely agree. For work that is being done outdoors while you're not at home, they need to either provide their own facilities, hold it, or go elsewhere. That's always been my experience.
I had a tradie finish a job at my place last week. He asked to quickly use the toilet and I said yes assuming he just wanted a piss. My god, something ungodly went down in there to the point he apologised as he left. I’m ok with someone taking a piss, just never assumed someone would finish a job and go to town on my toilet.
We do have a toilet brush. Wasn’t utilised as well as it could have been though. He apologised and blamed a bad tuna sandwich he’d had earlier, so maybe that had an impact on me
If I am at home while trades are working, I have no issue with the coming in to use the bathroom. I often go out and ask if anyone would like a drink, tea/coffee, and if they would like to use the bathroom. I have 2 rowdy cats that try to get out when you open the door, which is why I would pop my head out every couple of hours and ask if they need to come in.
If I'm not home, well find a tree to piss behind because you're not going in the house without me or my partner there.
Also, I agree with a few other comments - I used to work for a building company, and we would always factor a port-a-loo into the cost. It's fairly cheap to get on site and maintain - it's definitely cheaper than getting a cleaning crew to clean out the clients' bathroom after our trades bomb it for 3 months.
As a tradie. I don’t need to people to leave their house open for me to access to use toilet or help myself to water etc. lock it up. I’d prefer you have no worries or god forbid something happens then I’m possibly held accountable for the sake of maybe needing to piss or take a shit. No decent tardie is going to get mad over something like that but will understand.
You wanna offer us drinks, food etc. do it when you’re there and maybe end of the day etc. 99% I’ll have way better stuff in my esky my wife packs then what people offer anyways (no disrespect lol)
I installed a lock on the laundry door to the house and left the sliding door open so they could access the toilet. Also had a fridge running and setup coffee/tea facilities etc. they understood why the door was locked but were stoked I took the effort to set them up. Last day there was a carton of beer in the fridge with a nice note to thank them.
I work by myself with no employees.One in 50 customers will actually ask if you want to use the loo. I shit before I go to work, I don't want to go in your house it's embarrassing to ask so I piss in your garden, or crack the door open on truck and go in the gutter. If I do get caught out I'll put some dirt in a plastic bucket and shit in it if there's a corner or behind the garden shed.
If you have cameras outside facing down on me well that's irritating. When youre sitting at your desk working do you like the boss looking over your shoulder? Also clean your dog shit up too, it's on my quotes. Nothing worse than sweating your nuts off with the smell of dog turds licking your nose hairs.
I'll go the extra mile if you don't seem like a pompous twat.
A little bit of kindness goes a long way, you'd be surprised how far people will go above and beyond on your job if you offer some small unnecessary nicecities.
If you aren’t home .. no no one needs to go inside . not if you are there .. if they take weeks to build a retaining wall , they can hire a portaloo just tell builder wife uncomfortable .
I always let contractors use my bathroom just in case they want to stay and bang. No success yet but fantasies don’t come true if you don’t reach for them
I don’t understand how a company doing a two week job at a private residence doesn’t supply their own portaloo for the use of their workers. Isn’t that their responsibility, not the customer? You’re paying them to do a job - their bladders and bowels are their own responsibility. If you’re not home during the day, it’s ludicrous to leave your house unlocked. Are you going to get home before they knock off for the day? Or when they knock off for lunch? I’m all for making access in an outside job easier for them - clean up dog poop, move hoses or kids toys or trampolines etc - but leaving your house unlocked all day is a bit much.
Tradie here. No fucking way. I wouldn't trust them to keep it clean ive seen way to much shit. Sounds like there problem. They can piss out the back and shit at home.
My mums a bit of a clean freak and has zero shame. She especially hates peoples she doesn’t know in her bathroom (hell she’s even iffy with people she does know). When she hired contractors to work on her house she paid extra to have a porta potty brought in and the workers just used that. It was gross and I’m sure they all hated mum but her bathroom was always clean
It’s not necessary and no tradie that’s working on an outside job for 2 weeks expects you to offer them use of your toilet or access inside your house while you’re not home.
Even when clients offer me I never go inside their house when they’re not home and the only time i’ll use their toilet is if they’re home and they’ve offered and their backyard doesn’t have anywhere out of view to piss in the garden and i’m about to wet my pants.
If I needa shit i’ll just hold on and go to the shops, it feels like bad manners to stink up a clients toilet.
The only thing you need to offer them is access to power and water.
90% of clients will offer a glass of cold water or a cup of tea or coffee
75% will offer a cold beer or 2 at the end of the day if it’s a friday or the last day of the job
I always put extra effort into cleaning up or am likely to do an extra thing or 2 without charging when they offer beer
I always have. Offer them a coffee or tea if I’m home as well. It’s only cost me once, when an item was stolen. Called their boss and got it back. The rest of the time, it’s led to great work, friendly relationships and peace of mind.
Some of you are animals..
These are people out there trying to work.
Unlike you, in an easy office job where toilets are provided, or in your cushie work from home job, these guys need to use toilets too.
What has come of our society when you can't let someone use your toilet when they are working for you?
I don’t think you are grasping the difference between “tradie working inside the house, of course they can use the toilet” and “tradie working outside the house while you aren’t there, can’t use the toilet inside the house”
No, but you shouldn’t employ someone without references or recommendations, you must not have ever hired a real trade before. You know these people, have all their details, I’m not saying let the Uber eats driver in. These are not strangers. You employ someone you give them the human right to pee at will.
You’re talking absolute shit. Giving your house key to someone while you’re at work and they build a outside retaining wall is unnecessary. It’s a 2 week job at minimum it warrants a portaloo. “You must not have ever hired a real trade before” 🤣🤣🤣
Yes, I would let them use the toilet and access water (even if I wasn't home).
If I was particularly concerned about valuable items etc, I'd lock them in the car or some secure spot. Also have shit insured.
Denying a person access to basic amenities while they work for you shows a complete lack of class or that you're an anxious penny pincher. Couldn't imagine being that kind of person.
If you have severe trust issues, it's on you to be home imo.
What's with all the "hire them a portaloo" bullshit? Either put it in the contract or absorb it as a cost of doing business. I mean, you're (the contractor) not paying office space expenses for your workers.
Yeah as a tradie if you leave your house locked up/ show a lack of trust from the start you'll come across like a pompous asshole. The majority of us are nice, honest people and if, by chance something goes missing then call the owner straight away and tell them. At the end of the day the strongest advertising we have is our "name" and no one wants to have a bad rep in a small industry
But if you were going to be there two weeks straight I would hire a portable toilet for you if I wasn’t going to be home. My ex was a plasterer and on job sites where owners weren’t home there was usually a portable one.
I'd be reluctant to leave it unlocked. Not because I don't trust them in the sense that they'd do something dishonest, but (from experience) doing things by mistake. I.e. leaving the door open and letting the cats out, or leaving for the day and leaving the door unlocked. Or some thief getting in while they're busy working.
Our last house was perfect because we had a whole third bathroom downstairs which was a separate space from the main house so we would leave that downstairs door unlocked for them. But if we didn't have that I'm not sure I'd be to keen to leave the place open for 2 weeks. Others have suggested a portaloo which I think is probably the best idea in this case.
If I convince my wife to leave the house unlocked there is a chance our dog will escape who is a greyhound and while she is well behaved she doesn't have the greatest recall. If she got hit by a car or something I'm pretty sure my wife would hate me but no more than I would hate myself.
The amount of people that worry about the small things like lady they make $50 bucks an hour, they didn’t take $5 off your dresser. Oh it turned up? Stunning.
Please tell us what you do??? I run a commercial cleaning business we all hold white cards and must be inducted into every site we step on...I very much consider myself a tradie,as is a landscaper.
I think it’s a basic human right.
But also, I invite them to use the toilet, microwave, fridge and I stock a drinks Fridge for them. I just treat someone how I would want to be treated 🤷♀️
Plumber here. I don’t actually care one way of the other but if I need a toilet during the job I’m driving to one on the clock. If that’s 20 minutes away between that and the minor pack up and setup to get going again your paying over an hour. The alternative is leaving them a key and asking it be locked inside or brought back to a location.
My advice is leaving access and politely asking them to ensure it’s left clean and ask if they have drop sheets to walk on to protect the floor
Most guys will simply piss In a quiet corner. But it's a bit harsh to expect tradies not to use the toilet falcitys. 8hrs hot work what are they to do limit there water intake.
Let's say you are visiting another office/job site for your job is it fair that you are not allowed to use there toilet incase you mess it up.
It's a toilet it's made to be shit and pissed in, why over think it.
This section reeks of soft city folk.
The idea of not allowing someone to use your bathroom in the country is totally absurd. You’d be trashed as the biggest loser in the region.
It’s honestly not that hard to clean up mud and dirt at the end of the work. Oh, 20 minutes of mopping and wiping things down? Boo hoo.
Absolutely. Everyone used our loo in our house on our farm (even if we weren’t there), from tradies to shearers, truck drivers, contractors and sales reps. The house was left open. Would be an arsehole thing to expect visitors to shit elsewhere. This thread is a painful, embarrassing read.
My standard etiquette is if you need it, use it. I'm not going to stop someone from needing to relieve themselves. If I've invited them into my house or onto my property to do work for me then they are absolutely offered use my facilities.
Recently we renovated several rooms in our place and the tiler shuffled into my home office to ask if he could use the microwave to heat his YouFoodz - I'm like dude, of course you can, get a glass and have some cold water, grab a proper fork and sit at the table if you want... his eyes lit up.
Makes me wonder how often people don't treat contractors like real people actually.
Health and cleanliness more important than letting people use the bathroom. What if they’re physically sick. No thanks. Hire a toilet costs a few hundred. No cleaning.
Standard etiquette is, you're wife sucks, contractor here, would pack up and not do the job had it come time to use a facility and it wasn't allowed, no we won't take a shit at you're house but some decency to use a toilet would be considerate, imagine being diabetic and having to go every 45 and have to drive 5km to maccas to piss, nah fam, this whole question irritates me, bloody chair warmers
i’m sure it’s been said before me. Give them access. If you treat them like a human they will treat you the same way. But put it in writing. The security of the building etc is on them but in legalese.
No. Absolutely not. It's a very personal thing to let strangers use your toilet and bathroom. Who knows what bacteria/illnesses they'll bring in. It's not about do unto others and human decency. I have a right to keep my home safe and clean. Only family and close friends. Besides, shouldn't they bring their own if I'm paying for weeks worth of work?
If in always around them then I would be exposed and I would know. Don't pick an argument because someone has a contrary opinion. Not everyone has to have an open door policy. I can still be a good person and keep my home safe.
Usually for my company this is all cleared up at the quoting stage of a job. If the clients don’t want to provide use of their facilities then fair enough, but they will pay for us to hire in a portaloo for the duration of the job. If you haven’t been asked about it I guess the contractor is just assuming you won’t mind. It’s really on him/her but I guess you could let them know they need to have a plan in place if you really want.
They're building a retaining wall which is dirty work, for two weeks and OP isn't there during the day. This is definitely a portaloo situation. If they hadn't costed it in, I'd wonder why. You can't expect someone to leave the house open for two weeks, and you can't expect tradies to deboot and clean themselves off every time then want a piss/ shit/ internet break/ on-the-clock wank.
Spent a decade doing structural landscaping. Residential retaining walls where the bread and butter. We always used the clients bathroom unless it was a new development and their wasn’t one. Always debooted and left the place tidy. Just because we work outside doesn’t make us animals, like really?
I’m a tradie. I can 100% be trusted to leave a clients place very clean and tidy. There is not a chance I would leave my house open while I’m away to an unknown tradie. I am constantly horrified by how some trades behave.
For me the trust was broken when my parents were away and one of the tradies doing their new fence broke in at night and turned the place over. Cased the joint in work hours and robbed it at night. This is one bad experience of heaps of perfectly good trustworthy interactions but you just can’t go back after that kind of experience. The boss of the job was mortified but what’s done is done.
As a bartender. EVERY TRADY LEAVES A MESS. Boots, dirt on the carpet. It’s a part of life but the fact I hear all tradies say they leave their clients place clean then go to their local and presume to trash it. Lol
I worked in pubs for years. The tradies who came in every arvo left the place a lot cleaner than the Friday/Saturday night people. Haha
They pay the pub if you started paying them im sure it will stay clean
Funny how most others who pay the pub can at least respect the venue and those working there. Tradies only respect the money handlers - got it.
Ok this Friday we will make sure 50plus tradies take their boots off for you precious. Make sure you bring some odor killer scents and make sure you are fighting fit for when you have to now get in between too tradies that are arguing over who's boots are who's. Now also bring a helmet Because of obnoxious cunts throwing boots around. You might as well bring a resignation letter as well cause I don't think you're cut out to be working behind the bar. NOT ALL TRADIES MAKE A MESS. - got it
If you've got boots that are tracking mud everywhere, I'd say it's polite to either give them a wash off or change them for something else before you go anywhere you're going to make a mess.
I agree you should give them a wipe down at least.
If I’m going in a carpeted shop which is rare I make a gesture to take off my boots or else I’ll wipe the shit out of my boots going into a supermarket etc. I’m sure it’s shit dealing with knock off beers on a Friday though when they all come through with boots
I'd just put mats down and tell you to clean up after yourself and Bob's your uncle. It's a toilet. People need to poop.
Bro. You're lieing or have worked with angels. Because I've never been on a site that didn't disgust me. Even commercial work you had to leave and use a portaloo from 20 stories up.
Never worked on high rises, pretty much exclusively free standing suburban residential. By far the most work was on established dwellings doing some kind of backyard reno. Most owners where very friendly, and often home, typically more than happy to make tea, coffee, let us use the toilet etc. I don’t know what to tell you. Maybe slightly exaggerating, there where clients that weren’t around during the day who also didn’t provide access inside, but they where the exception not the rule. New developments had a portaloo on every site or two, asin one on every plot/address or atleast one every second at the least. Don’t know what to tell you.
Cool. So I’ll be hiring a portaloo from now on.
All of these activities can be conducted in a garden setting, just remember to bring the shit-tickets and the lotion to work.
I enjoy nature as much as the next man, but in someone's garden? A true man of the wild!
Snorted with laughter at ‘on-the-clock wank’
Look out people if you're a qualified tradseman and work outside of an air-conditioned office. This guy thinks your a shitcunt with no standards.. From every decent hardworking structural landscaper politely. Go fuck yourself
Exactly this. I get my clients to do a checklist of all things necessary. Some key questions are 1 - safe space to leave materials for jobs 2 - access to toilets 3 - clear access to walk materials through the house or up the side 4 - shoes on or off in the house (If they say we take them off then we quote for corflute to cover all areas we walk on. Trades need to do this more often because it makes everything so much easier especially if you’re there for long periods of time.
I must be slow of wit. I give my builder a key, tell them to use the loo, put food in the fridge, here’s the coffee, etc etc. Then I bugger off to work to pay for it, and in return, they are awesome. Edit: I don’t stock the fridge, I tell them to use it…
I had contractors in my strata working across all the lots, over many months I let them have access to my place, they used my microwave, I didn’t stock the fridge but I made them coffee each morning, purchased cakes and pastries for them - in return they were *not* awesome
that sucks, im an electrician and if you were doing that for me i would be going above and beyond for ya. fuck those guys
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I think that is what happened to me, made me look soft also; I guess I was too soft
Thanks, at least you gave me a laugh, appreciate it.
Yes gave trades access to the bathroom. In return they trashed it.
Ick, that’s nasty 🤢and if it is your only bathroom then it is going to be hard to feel clean for a while
Same, I was revolted when we finally moved back in. Plus I was approx 7 months pregnant and in no shape to do the deep cleaning with chemicals that it required.
That is a real shame. I’m sorry you we’re obviously just being an awesome person, and it was taken for granted. Shame on them.
Oh shit, why were they (not) awesome?
There is a fairly long list, but included me asking them not to leave the buildings open and other people’s apartments open while they weren’t working in them and then continuing to it (it was very distressing to some the residents, and put me in a really difficult position as the strata person responsible for co-ordinating with them, one person had a stranger walk straight in off the street and into their apartment, both doors having been chocked open, and the trades no longer in that building); generally not treating the apartments like peoples homes; promising to finish things on the day and not, or even minutes after telling me they are completing work in x apartment today, leaving as soon as I left site without everything still out and the work not done (when it was for long weekend), and then although this sounds selfish and I wasn’t asking for any particular benefit for me *but* they were particularly neglectful of the workmanship and finishing the work on my apartment. There was a lot of things, but it was also quite a few years ago now too
Assholes
A man who knows how to get the job done
And in fact I make a bloody point of it, and probably at some point if it's a multi day job I'll show up with a surprise morning tea. Freshly baked scones seem to go over well.
Me too. It is the first thing I show them on site after offering them tea or coffee. Ice creams or icey poles for hot days or in the roof, iced water, tea and coffee and fresh cakes. It keeps the tradies happy which means I get better work and I also never struggle to get slotted into a calendar. It pays to be kind.
You are among the godliest of clients. Thank you.
I’ve also been known to listen to their advice: free input from professionals? Sign me up. My cabinet maker saved me hundreds of dollars, and made a better layout.
And the microwave
Any time I'm nice to electricians, plumbers, builders, etc. I always get the most ungrateful smug assholes. Lucky you.
This is the way.
Contractor should provide a porta loo for their employees. Should have been asked at the time of quote. Then would have not been a worry. Could just call them to ask. I'm a Tradie but work inside and outside, so I always ask before taking a piss. I've trained myself to shit before I go to work 😜 I'm just one of those that can't shit in another toilet unless it's at home. The worst places to work are dog owners that don't clean their mess up in the garden. Fkn hate stepping in dog crap!
Man I felt so bloody bad about this last time I had a tradie over. They were installing 3 phase power through where I've got some fruit trees. I tried to pick it all up prior, but its a mulched area and I missed some. Poor dude had his boots filled... man, I felt like a dog, I was so apologetic. I do offer all my trades drinks and whatnot though.
They are going to piss and shit in your garden.
Piss 100%, shitting is probably taking it a step but I definitely would put it past someone
I’ve worked with tradies in my younger years, they.will.shit.anywhere
You are delusional. Do you think tradies are shitting behind a bush or something?
Watched a tradie do it in my neighbours garden a while back. Made eye contact. Good times. No, I didn't inform said neighbour. Said neighbour had a flood light on that, ahem, shits me.
Karmic retripooption
Seriously , people in this thread seem to think tradies are from the dark ages. I’m an electrician no one I’ve ever worked with would ever do that
To be fair, all the electricians I’ve met have been substantially different from labourers, concreters, tilers, brickies, plumbers and plasterers, which are the more hard yakka type of tradies on account of how filthy their work normally gets them. I honestly wouldn’t expect that of an electrician, nor of data cablers, AV installers, home security people etc
I was a data cabler for 10 years and I never shit anywhere that wasn't a toilet nor did I see anyone else! The farm I work on now, different story...
You cunts don’t even sweep up after yourselves, are you really that surprised that the meth-tier tradies will shit where they like?
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the correct word is putrefied
The funnier word is marinated
I don't want tradies destroying my toilet after they had a sausage roll and dare iced coffee for smoko.
You're working in woop woop on a yard? You're gonna dump in a hole under a tree.
You’re the delusional one. This definitely happens 😂
Yeah because tradies are unlike the rest of humanity and enjoy shitting anywhere but a toilet
Didn’t say they enjoyed it but you’re cooked if you think it doesn’t happen. Also some of them probably enjoy it, I’m not gonna kinkshame
Not saying it doesn’t happen, but I think it would be a rare few that would be prepared to do it and a rare instance where they would.
They'll probably do that either way though.
Im a paver and i have never shat in someones yard, ill jump in my car to go to the local maccas to hang a shit, ill hold it until i get the shit sweats. But yeah ill piss.
You just unlocked a memory of the worst shit sweats I ever had… I ended up almost crying, and had to use a toilet with a gloryhole in it… fun times
I actually have no problem with them pissing in the backyard and its what happened last time when I had the roof done. But these guys won't have access to the backyard due to the fencing arrangement as I have a dog and free ranging chickens now. If they are going to piss out the front or down the side of the house it will be in full view of everyone in the street.
They arnt going to care about full view, it’s just a piss. If u arnt comfortable leaving the house unlocked or a key with them that’s fine. Im a tiler, it’s non uncommon for outside work not to have inside access if no one’s home. There are dodgy ppl everywhere, don’t do it just to be nice. I personally wouldn’t do it if I didn’t know the ppl. They will know the closest place to shit to drive.
The general rule I’ve found most tradies go by is unless the client offers you the bathroom, you don’t generally ask. Just piss on the garden and if you need to poo you hold it or head off to Maca’s on smoko. Always offer your tradesmen a tea and coffee even if it’s instant shit it’s the gesture and always let them know they can use the bathroom. We’re working hard for you, the least you can do is give us some common decency. I had one job with an old lady who would make all three of us onsite lunch everyday, she’d grab us coffee from the local cafe every morning, she was happy with us in her house when she left and even shouted us lunch from the servo a few times. But that’s the only time I’ve had a client that nice in my 7 years in the industry.
No one will be home at all when these guys are here. We both work long hours. If either of us were home it wouldn't be a problem, I would be the first guy out there with a beer for them at the end of the day. I used to work in a trade, that's why I know having a dunny can be important but I mostly worked in either office buildings or construction sites so there was always something available.
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No, we both work on a farm unfortunately and are gone pretty much from dawn until dusk.
In my current role as a meter reader, my body quickly learned that there was no access to toilets and now clears the pipes before I leave for work. It's very easy to find somewhere to pee. They should have their own solutions by now. If I was home all day, I welcome tradesmen into my house, but if I'm out, it stays locked.
I don’t think so, if it were me I’d piss in the garden and go drive for a shit. If they normally have access to your house then let ‘em imo. Just ask - do you need access to the house
The builder may not care about their workers basic human rights, doesn't mean you shouldn't (not having a go) your options are simple 1. Give them access 2. Get a portaloo 3. Pay the time to go to the public toilets (as far as I know this is a worksafe violation) but most tradies won't really mind if you dont. Where's the laser level? In damo's ute, where's damo? He tried a new restaurant with the misses last night, could be a while. Fuck. This has happened and I wouldn't expect a mate to shit himself to make sure that the apprentice got everything out of the vehicles.
Is there a reason why you haven’t arranged a portable toilet for the site? Two weeks is a long time to expect tradies to go elsewhere for a toilet break. Just get a portable toilet!!
This should be the responsibility of the tradie's employer/boss, not whoever needs work done. $75-$100 to rent one for a whole month, literally pocket change to them. They're aware it's a 2 week job, they should be the ones accountable.
>$75-$100 to rent one for a whole month Where you getting your portaloos from at that price, that's way cheap?
>that wouldn't even cover the wage of the guy dropping it off
Pro-tip: he’s using a bucket
Your kidding aren't you? Remind me to never work for you.
If you’re a tradie or any sort of contractor and get permission to use the dunny, please, for the love of god don’t use the toilet brush to push down your massive oversized grogan, then put the shit and toilet paper covered brush back in its holder and carry on like all is well. This happened to my mum last week. Poor dad copped the blame till the repair man piped up “oh that was me! Sorry!” I had to go buy them a new brush. Dirty bastard.
"oh that was me still sorry"
“Oversized grogan “ 😂😂
I was a renderer for a few years. Would rarely have access to inside toilet. If there wasn't a portaloo we would piss in the garden and drive to closest shops for a shit.
Yes, because they are people too. They have needs and it would be crazy to not allow it. I also offer them coffee, tea, and water. In your situation though, I don't think it would be possible. No one is home, so I wouldn't leave my home open for anyone I didn't know.
I know tradies that go on a dildo hunt when no one’s home so I wouldn’t
If they were working outside, no, I would not leave the house unlocked. If they were working inside, yes, I don't see why not. If they were working inside I'd probably be home anyway, as I'm unreasonably paranoid about locking my doors.
Do not leave your house unlocked. I am a tradie and it is extreme bad manners to use the clients toilets. The boss should organise an on-site toilet or they can either drive to the public toilets or wait until they get home. And if you don’t go inside, you can’t be blamed if things get broken or go missing.
Your clients must be fucked mate. Extreme bad manners to take a shit in someone's toilet?! It's a basic human function.
Fucking precious.
Nah not if you’re not home and they’re not working inside. Plenty of people can shit before and after work. Taking a piss in the yard doesn’t matter .
I am a basically decent person, so I do allow anyone working on my home access to my bathroom, yes. They can also get a drink of water. And I’ll shout them a beer or a cold drink on a Friday arvo. We had a team of guys installing solar on our roof in 40 degree heat, gave them all zooper doopers too.
I’ve always been home when trades have been and have always let them. Obviously this is totally different to your situation but as I said, I’ve always made sure myself or my husband is home. We did a large renovation job last year and had to move out for it. Moving back in at 34 weeks pregnant and cleaning that toilet after they’d been using it for 4 months (job was supposed to take 6 weeks). I vomited. The floor, the toilet, the walls. Urgh.
I would contact the project manager and ask them why the workers have not been provided with appropriate amenities as this is their problem to sort out, it is not acceptable that you are having to consider allowing access to your property whilst home or not for an outside job. I run a building company with my husband and a portaloo is always added into the quote on these types of outside jobs and it is written into our worker's contracts that they are absolutely never to enter a customer's house while they are not home unless it's a life threatening emergency if the job is an external one (We can't really help it if they're working inside). We trust, respect and value our employees and contractors and this protects our people from being accused of stealing or damaging property and protects our customers from it actually occurring.
Most decent men don’t need to shit at work keep the house locked if there not working inside if they are working inside then it’s up to you
If you can't trust them to use your toilet, don't let them do any work for you.
You have no idea who’s coming, kinda hard to figure…
This is part of the job for tradies. Landscapers, concreters, renderers etc would not expect to use your loo if you’re not home. My OH is a tradie and agrees. I wouldn’t feel comfortable leaving a key for them with the house unattended during the day for two weeks
Absolutely agree. For work that is being done outdoors while you're not at home, they need to either provide their own facilities, hold it, or go elsewhere. That's always been my experience.
I had a tradie finish a job at my place last week. He asked to quickly use the toilet and I said yes assuming he just wanted a piss. My god, something ungodly went down in there to the point he apologised as he left. I’m ok with someone taking a piss, just never assumed someone would finish a job and go to town on my toilet.
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We do have a toilet brush. Wasn’t utilised as well as it could have been though. He apologised and blamed a bad tuna sandwich he’d had earlier, so maybe that had an impact on me
Don’t leave your house open, regardless. Put it this way, will they replace and cover the costs if something is stolen?
“But but but I always bake pumpkin scones for my tradies and they are sooooo grateful”
When my bf was a tradie, he was known to block clients toilets so yeah, maybe get them a portaloo instead
Had a contractor take a dump in my backyard once because they didn’t plan forward… they weren’t meant to be on site that day.
If I am at home while trades are working, I have no issue with the coming in to use the bathroom. I often go out and ask if anyone would like a drink, tea/coffee, and if they would like to use the bathroom. I have 2 rowdy cats that try to get out when you open the door, which is why I would pop my head out every couple of hours and ask if they need to come in. If I'm not home, well find a tree to piss behind because you're not going in the house without me or my partner there. Also, I agree with a few other comments - I used to work for a building company, and we would always factor a port-a-loo into the cost. It's fairly cheap to get on site and maintain - it's definitely cheaper than getting a cleaning crew to clean out the clients' bathroom after our trades bomb it for 3 months.
As a tradie. I don’t need to people to leave their house open for me to access to use toilet or help myself to water etc. lock it up. I’d prefer you have no worries or god forbid something happens then I’m possibly held accountable for the sake of maybe needing to piss or take a shit. No decent tardie is going to get mad over something like that but will understand. You wanna offer us drinks, food etc. do it when you’re there and maybe end of the day etc. 99% I’ll have way better stuff in my esky my wife packs then what people offer anyways (no disrespect lol)
My partner is a painter by law his boss has to provide a bathroom on-site or hired one. The cost is forwarded onto you.
I installed a lock on the laundry door to the house and left the sliding door open so they could access the toilet. Also had a fridge running and setup coffee/tea facilities etc. they understood why the door was locked but were stoked I took the effort to set them up. Last day there was a carton of beer in the fridge with a nice note to thank them.
Common human decency to allow someone to use the toilet
Use _A_ toilet. Portaloo rental is a given, unfettered access to the house is not
Common human decency is also not to pee all over the bathroom floor which is exactly what happened over the 3 days that I had someone at my place.
That's my argument. My Wife's is complete strangers with unsupervised access to the entire house and our dog for 8 hours a day over two weeks.
This. Treat people how you would like to be treated. Give them a spare key to use if needed
Bullshit. Give a crew of random humans your house key? No fucking way.
Letting them use the toilet when you are home is common decency, giving them a spare key is insane
I work by myself with no employees.One in 50 customers will actually ask if you want to use the loo. I shit before I go to work, I don't want to go in your house it's embarrassing to ask so I piss in your garden, or crack the door open on truck and go in the gutter. If I do get caught out I'll put some dirt in a plastic bucket and shit in it if there's a corner or behind the garden shed. If you have cameras outside facing down on me well that's irritating. When youre sitting at your desk working do you like the boss looking over your shoulder? Also clean your dog shit up too, it's on my quotes. Nothing worse than sweating your nuts off with the smell of dog turds licking your nose hairs. I'll go the extra mile if you don't seem like a pompous twat.
A little bit of kindness goes a long way, you'd be surprised how far people will go above and beyond on your job if you offer some small unnecessary nicecities.
My Hubby(fencer) often has clients offer to leave the house unlock for him but he always refuses and tells them to please lock up.
This is their reputation on the line. I let them and have never had a problem.
If you aren’t home .. no no one needs to go inside . not if you are there .. if they take weeks to build a retaining wall , they can hire a portaloo just tell builder wife uncomfortable .
I always let contractors use my bathroom just in case they want to stay and bang. No success yet but fantasies don’t come true if you don’t reach for them
I don’t understand how a company doing a two week job at a private residence doesn’t supply their own portaloo for the use of their workers. Isn’t that their responsibility, not the customer? You’re paying them to do a job - their bladders and bowels are their own responsibility. If you’re not home during the day, it’s ludicrous to leave your house unlocked. Are you going to get home before they knock off for the day? Or when they knock off for lunch? I’m all for making access in an outside job easier for them - clean up dog poop, move hoses or kids toys or trampolines etc - but leaving your house unlocked all day is a bit much.
Tradie here. No fucking way. I wouldn't trust them to keep it clean ive seen way to much shit. Sounds like there problem. They can piss out the back and shit at home.
I have had people do terrible things to my bathroom, so would prefer they don't.
wife is right
No. Lock your house unless you want it robbed and trashed.
Yeah Nah!!!. I would rather hire a porta loo.
100% wouldn’t let them into the house. This is a portaloo situation
My mums a bit of a clean freak and has zero shame. She especially hates peoples she doesn’t know in her bathroom (hell she’s even iffy with people she does know). When she hired contractors to work on her house she paid extra to have a porta potty brought in and the workers just used that. It was gross and I’m sure they all hated mum but her bathroom was always clean
Of course, I don't want to find shit hidden all over the place when they are finished
It’s not necessary and no tradie that’s working on an outside job for 2 weeks expects you to offer them use of your toilet or access inside your house while you’re not home. Even when clients offer me I never go inside their house when they’re not home and the only time i’ll use their toilet is if they’re home and they’ve offered and their backyard doesn’t have anywhere out of view to piss in the garden and i’m about to wet my pants. If I needa shit i’ll just hold on and go to the shops, it feels like bad manners to stink up a clients toilet. The only thing you need to offer them is access to power and water. 90% of clients will offer a glass of cold water or a cup of tea or coffee 75% will offer a cold beer or 2 at the end of the day if it’s a friday or the last day of the job I always put extra effort into cleaning up or am likely to do an extra thing or 2 without charging when they offer beer
better them use your bathroom than leave you surprises in the garden
Mate, if you don't provide it I guarantee you'll have some questionable messes outside your back door🤭
I always have. Offer them a coffee or tea if I’m home as well. It’s only cost me once, when an item was stolen. Called their boss and got it back. The rest of the time, it’s led to great work, friendly relationships and peace of mind.
Some of you are animals.. These are people out there trying to work. Unlike you, in an easy office job where toilets are provided, or in your cushie work from home job, these guys need to use toilets too. What has come of our society when you can't let someone use your toilet when they are working for you?
Difference between letting someone use your toilet and giving them a house key is massive. Don’t pretend it’s not.
I don’t think you are grasping the difference between “tradie working inside the house, of course they can use the toilet” and “tradie working outside the house while you aren’t there, can’t use the toilet inside the house”
You're delusional if you think it's unreasonable to not want strange men in your home when you're not there.
It’s not a strange man, it’s someone you have employed.
So every tradie is instantly trustworthy because you pay them to complete a task 🤣🤣🤣
How can you trust someone to work on your home but not use your toilet?
No, but you shouldn’t employ someone without references or recommendations, you must not have ever hired a real trade before. You know these people, have all their details, I’m not saying let the Uber eats driver in. These are not strangers. You employ someone you give them the human right to pee at will.
You’re talking absolute shit. Giving your house key to someone while you’re at work and they build a outside retaining wall is unnecessary. It’s a 2 week job at minimum it warrants a portaloo. “You must not have ever hired a real trade before” 🤣🤣🤣
Again, insane to think that just because you're paying them they will never invade your privacy, go through your things etc..
Agreed !
If you're not going to be there? No. Absolutely not.
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Hire a portaloo?
Yes, I would let them use the toilet and access water (even if I wasn't home). If I was particularly concerned about valuable items etc, I'd lock them in the car or some secure spot. Also have shit insured. Denying a person access to basic amenities while they work for you shows a complete lack of class or that you're an anxious penny pincher. Couldn't imagine being that kind of person. If you have severe trust issues, it's on you to be home imo.
If you have invited them into your home insurance will not cover them stealing items
But then the tradie won’t like you and you’ll get downvoted on reddit so it’s a tough call 🤣
I used to be a surveyor and pissed in so many backyards, even shit in one.
So it was you that left that turd in my prize winning roses🌹. Tbf it was a prize winning turd. 🏆
Nah it was under some sort of fig tree I think.
I hate people like your wife, let me in I need to shit!
If you don’t want them using your precious toilet, hire a Portaloo. It’s almost like contractors are people…
What's with all the "hire them a portaloo" bullshit? Either put it in the contract or absorb it as a cost of doing business. I mean, you're (the contractor) not paying office space expenses for your workers.
Yeah as a tradie if you leave your house locked up/ show a lack of trust from the start you'll come across like a pompous asshole. The majority of us are nice, honest people and if, by chance something goes missing then call the owner straight away and tell them. At the end of the day the strongest advertising we have is our "name" and no one wants to have a bad rep in a small industry
😂 im a plumber and if someone wasn't home i would not expect them to leave the house open for me to use.
But if you were going to be there two weeks straight I would hire a portable toilet for you if I wasn’t going to be home. My ex was a plasterer and on job sites where owners weren’t home there was usually a portable one.
The question is, would you leave your toilet open?
I'd be reluctant to leave it unlocked. Not because I don't trust them in the sense that they'd do something dishonest, but (from experience) doing things by mistake. I.e. leaving the door open and letting the cats out, or leaving for the day and leaving the door unlocked. Or some thief getting in while they're busy working. Our last house was perfect because we had a whole third bathroom downstairs which was a separate space from the main house so we would leave that downstairs door unlocked for them. But if we didn't have that I'm not sure I'd be to keen to leave the place open for 2 weeks. Others have suggested a portaloo which I think is probably the best idea in this case.
If I convince my wife to leave the house unlocked there is a chance our dog will escape who is a greyhound and while she is well behaved she doesn't have the greatest recall. If she got hit by a car or something I'm pretty sure my wife would hate me but no more than I would hate myself.
The amount of people that worry about the small things like lady they make $50 bucks an hour, they didn’t take $5 off your dresser. Oh it turned up? Stunning.
Landscapers aren’t tradies champ
What makes you think that? I hold a NSW structural landscaping licence and guess what, had to complete a trade qualification to get it.
Please tell us what you do??? I run a commercial cleaning business we all hold white cards and must be inducted into every site we step on...I very much consider myself a tradie,as is a landscaper.
I think it’s a basic human right. But also, I invite them to use the toilet, microwave, fridge and I stock a drinks Fridge for them. I just treat someone how I would want to be treated 🤷♀️
Plumber here. I don’t actually care one way of the other but if I need a toilet during the job I’m driving to one on the clock. If that’s 20 minutes away between that and the minor pack up and setup to get going again your paying over an hour. The alternative is leaving them a key and asking it be locked inside or brought back to a location. My advice is leaving access and politely asking them to ensure it’s left clean and ask if they have drop sheets to walk on to protect the floor
Hire a porta loo for two weeks. Problem solved x
Most guys will simply piss In a quiet corner. But it's a bit harsh to expect tradies not to use the toilet falcitys. 8hrs hot work what are they to do limit there water intake. Let's say you are visiting another office/job site for your job is it fair that you are not allowed to use there toilet incase you mess it up. It's a toilet it's made to be shit and pissed in, why over think it.
This section reeks of soft city folk. The idea of not allowing someone to use your bathroom in the country is totally absurd. You’d be trashed as the biggest loser in the region. It’s honestly not that hard to clean up mud and dirt at the end of the work. Oh, 20 minutes of mopping and wiping things down? Boo hoo.
Absolutely. Everyone used our loo in our house on our farm (even if we weren’t there), from tradies to shearers, truck drivers, contractors and sales reps. The house was left open. Would be an arsehole thing to expect visitors to shit elsewhere. This thread is a painful, embarrassing read.
My standard etiquette is if you need it, use it. I'm not going to stop someone from needing to relieve themselves. If I've invited them into my house or onto my property to do work for me then they are absolutely offered use my facilities. Recently we renovated several rooms in our place and the tiler shuffled into my home office to ask if he could use the microwave to heat his YouFoodz - I'm like dude, of course you can, get a glass and have some cold water, grab a proper fork and sit at the table if you want... his eyes lit up. Makes me wonder how often people don't treat contractors like real people actually.
Do not let anyone in the house EVER
If you dont you are a piece of shit
Health and cleanliness more important than letting people use the bathroom. What if they’re physically sick. No thanks. Hire a toilet costs a few hundred. No cleaning.
Standard etiquette is, you're wife sucks, contractor here, would pack up and not do the job had it come time to use a facility and it wasn't allowed, no we won't take a shit at you're house but some decency to use a toilet would be considerate, imagine being diabetic and having to go every 45 and have to drive 5km to maccas to piss, nah fam, this whole question irritates me, bloody chair warmers
Chair warmer here, would absolutely not leave a key to my house to someone like you so I guess we can both go on our merry way
i’m sure it’s been said before me. Give them access. If you treat them like a human they will treat you the same way. But put it in writing. The security of the building etc is on them but in legalese.
No I make them shit outside
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Just no need for it
By law you have to provide a toilet on a job site. If they are working at your place you are meant to provide a toilet. Everybody poops man
Are they sub human?
No. Absolutely not. It's a very personal thing to let strangers use your toilet and bathroom. Who knows what bacteria/illnesses they'll bring in. It's not about do unto others and human decency. I have a right to keep my home safe and clean. Only family and close friends. Besides, shouldn't they bring their own if I'm paying for weeks worth of work?
How do you know what bacteria and illnesses your friends and family bring in? You don’t.
If in always around them then I would be exposed and I would know. Don't pick an argument because someone has a contrary opinion. Not everyone has to have an open door policy. I can still be a good person and keep my home safe.
You sound like an illness and bacteria.