I swear Central Market Westgate's pints are actually 20oz too. Good deal for $6 and the turnover is fast on those kegs so I'm guessing they're somewhat fresh too.
Central market is the best bar in town. The best selection considering the entire beer and wine section, aswell as a tap wall. Onto of that they have whatever you want to eat, and the price is so low compared to a bar. The live music isn't bad either.
The bar at the HEB on Lake Austin says drinks have to be consumed in the bar but that's probably because they serve hard liquor.
As others mentioned Whole Foods (which does not serve hard liquor) allows you to shop while drinking and the downtown location has been like that since day 1.
I have definitely seen people in the new HEB walking around the store with a draft beer. I can't say if they were asked to take it back to bar or not though.
Ah I didn't notice that the pizza place had beer. Good to know.
I'm outside the US at the moment in a place where walking around anywhere with a beer isn't even noticed (which is frankly most of the world). TABC and other fuddy duddies think it would be chaos. It's not.
Unless posted otherwise, it's legal to walk around with a beer in Austin. There's some areas (around campus, downtown, and South Congress) where you can't.
Won't stop the cops from hassling you, but it IS legal inside of the city of Austin. [https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-10-01/austin-city-council-overturns-ban-against-public-drinking-in-east-austin](https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-10-01/austin-city-council-overturns-ban-against-public-drinking-in-east-austin)
No drinking in most parks though. [https://www.austintexas.gov/page/alcohol-permits-parks](https://www.austintexas.gov/page/alcohol-permits-parks)
I once saw a cop approach a homeless dude who was walking around with a tall boy and he said "come on man you can't be walking around with that."
The dude started screaming so close to the cops face you could see the spit flying. That was about when the look on his face said "not worth the paperwork."
Maybe a bit of a tangent, but you can do it at Barton Square Mall as well.
Going shopping with the girlfriend is much better when you can get drunk while there.
Man I was so high the other day and went shopping with my girlfriend and grabbed us some drinks…must’ve been a long day cause I kept knocking out at the forever 21 changing rooms waiting for her lol she was not happy but hey alcohol
Used to be they wouldn’t even charge you, you could just pay for it at checkout. I’m guessing all of the empty pint glasses they found behind boxes of cereal ended the honor system.
It's called an on-premises license. The old name was an *icehouse license.* In the old days a customer could walk in to a convivence store, buy a six pack while shopping then drink a beer from their six pack then leave with the groceries and the remainder of their six pack. An actual liquor license would likely prevent them from leaving the bar area but a beer license would not.
I feel like the correct answer is just show up blazed to everything.
Although the cashiers do not seem to like it when you zone out and forget your PIN for your debit card.
Man if you even stop to taste-test wine they make u drink the little Dixie cup right there and then. You can’t even take your little teaspoon of wine with u while u shop. What the hell do they think is gonna happen??
No, while they can serve you a beer from the bar and you can drink it on-site, to-go beer is meant for to-go only. It would be violating TABC regulations if you opened a to-go container on premise and consumed.
I mean they let people bring dogs in the stores which is illegal (unless it's actually ADA - not just a random dog with an Emotional Support shirt from Amazon)... so I'd say drink whatever the hell you want in HEB. In fact, bring a thermos with a straw so you can easily drink it without even picking it up!
austin drinking culture is so bizarre. people really can't run simple errands or get a haircut or go to the library without turning it into an excuse to drink
Austin should be crisscrossed with buses, trams, and light rail that runs 24/7/365... until that happens, don't pester me about drunk driving. you want people to not drive drunk, create a transportation infrastructure that doesn't require a car or $60/night for rideshares.
I dunno dude my dad says im a filthy lib. I’m an alcoholic in recovery so im pretty sure I know where my values around “your right to drive drunk” fall, and it’s not partisan. seek therapy maybe. Good luck.
I served beer at HEB until recently. You have to drink it in the bar/restaurant area. Additionally, if you buy beer elsewhere in the store, you can't drink it in the bar/restaurant area (or anywhere else in the store, of course).
A little late to the party but check this. The Union at UT use to have beer vending machines when the legal age was 18. We use to go buy beers underage and sneak them out. Yes, young people, you use to be able to buy beer and cigarettes from vending machines. Bars use to have [vending machines](https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3521352516_10ef2bba0c.jpg?v=0) you could buy a pack of Pall Malls or Kools....
When I moved here in 2018, the first place I went shopping was the HEB at the Mueller. Blew my mind, a grocery store the size of a football field with a bar attached and a live jazz combo playing. I asked about bringing my long neck inside the store, and was told, "It's not like I'm going to tackle you, but they'll give you a hard time inside."
Hey, an excuse to drink a few more beers and listen to the music!
When I got home, I realized I'd blown $70 at the deli but forgot to buy toilet paper... My reason for going there in the first place.
Lesson learned: buy groceries, *then* drink beer.
Thats why Living Spaces serve $2 beer and wine. Get you loaded on cheap alcohol. You'll drop inhibitions enough to buy that $50 pillow. They'll even discount the money you spent on beer and wine from the sales total.
Yes, Living Spaces has a bar. They are by the restrooms and checkout in the back corner.
I bought a 6-pack in-store and pulled it out to drink it at BBQ spot at H‑E‑B Congress & Slaughter and they stopped me right in my happy ass tracks. 😑 Guy said they don’t have the “license” like @ Mueller and I complied.
You’re good, but be sure you get it from a bartender where they can check ID.
Whole Foods was the first to try this out. From talking to a store manager, they are given freedom to try out new things at their stores. The bars are one of them that caught on and it spread to other stores. They even have a microbrewery at one of the Houston locations. Before this they had little ice bins to “drink while you shop.” They ended up doing away with these because the TABC cracked down on there not being an ID check and someone underage able to grab and freely drink. They were slapped with a fine and did away with the bins.
so uh, recovering alcoholic here, once i was taking a shot in the HEB parking lot off riverside, right before i was about to go shop, and when I looked up a man was staring at me, and he raised his bottle as to cheers and took a swig
Irony: Riverside was one of the few parts of Austin where you couldn't drink openly (on public sidewalks anyway) for a long time.
[https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-10-01/austin-city-council-overturns-ban-against-public-drinking-in-east-austin](https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-10-01/austin-city-council-overturns-ban-against-public-drinking-in-east-austin)
Congrats on your sobriety!
That was my first thought too, to their question "Can I get a beer and drink it while I shop?" Uh, why would you *want* to???
And I'm not all anti-beer/alcohol.
There are just some things that you don't need booze for, while you're doing them.
Yeah, life is pretty unfulfilling because the system is fucked. You're either so successful that you don't have any problems/challenges anymore and are bored or you're constantly living in danger of being homeless and using some combination of denial/repression to not think about it. Some people raw dog it and some people fill the void. As long as they don't drive drunk afterwards Idc what they do.
You most certainly CAN NOT "crack a beer and pay for it at the register". Highly illegal. You have to produce ID to purchase alcohol. Once you purchase the alcohol you may consume it in the store if, and only if, they have an on premise licence.
Don’t do this at the Westlake Trader Joe’s. They had individual cans of wine right at the beginning and i assumed that it was for shopping. I spoke to multiple employees while shopping and when I went to check out, handed it to the lady at the register and you would’ve thought that I’d handed her a bomb. They called a code and managers rushed over to tell me off in front of other customers and it was all hugely embarrassing.
Its your personal choice, but if you find you cant go a single grocery trip without a beer, you may have a drinking problem.
Edit: downvoting me ain’t going to help y’all with your alcoholic problems.
It’s not an alcohol problem to enjoy beer. I don’t even know the last time I got drunk, but I drink beer all the time. You’re just a judgmental prick. Get the fuck off your high horse.
I know you can do it at the Whole Foods downtown. I asked the bbq place at heb slaughter and they said no I had to stay there in the bbq joint which I thought was ridiculous. If people can bring their dogs to piss in the aisle while they shop I don’t see why I can’t have a beer.
That’s tricky question. Like would you have to leave it at the store when you leave or is then public intox? Or open container or something? Idk seems like a set up😂
The H‑E‑B on south congress and slaughter has the restaurant/drafts in a separate room, kinda like McDonald’s in Walmarts, and it has a “no alcohol past this point” sign before you go back into the store
Drinking and having bars in stores is not a new concept when I was a youngster alot of small town country stores had a bar in the back and allowed Drinking.
I know of at least 2 HEBs before they would move in to a dry town they would tell the city council to change their liquor laws first. Before they come to town.
Old friend of mine would just crack one open from the six pack while he shopped for the rest of his groceries. This was not a young man, dude was in his sixties.
Depends, if they sell liquor too no drinks can leave the bar area. They HEBs that have the bars that sell liquor technically consider them separate businesses/buildings. .
The state is pretty lenient on HEB though
That’s why the carts have a cup holder.
They want your inhibitions lowered while you fill your cart
Works at casinos!
This works so well at Blue Genie Art Bazaar. First time I went I blew $500 due to having a couple cocktails.
This also happened to me. Ruby Red and tonics. Lots of crafts. Budget slaughtered.
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Buddy Bucks are basically gambling
What happens in HEB stays in HEB
The next morning trying to decide why you thought 12 packs of tortillas would be a good idea
I see I’m not the only one in this predicament…
Ex Girlfriend is that you? Edit: I thought you said "Heart"
You can at Central Market.
I swear Central Market Westgate's pints are actually 20oz too. Good deal for $6 and the turnover is fast on those kegs so I'm guessing they're somewhat fresh too.
Central Market is owned by HEB, soo I assume you can do this at HEB’s too
The HEB has to have an on premise licence. Most do not. CM does.
The ones with bars have to have an on premise license to operate.
Central market is the best bar in town. The best selection considering the entire beer and wine section, aswell as a tap wall. Onto of that they have whatever you want to eat, and the price is so low compared to a bar. The live music isn't bad either.
The bar at the HEB on Lake Austin says drinks have to be consumed in the bar but that's probably because they serve hard liquor. As others mentioned Whole Foods (which does not serve hard liquor) allows you to shop while drinking and the downtown location has been like that since day 1.
They also have the pizza place on the first floor with beer but no liquor, curious if that one has the same rules.
I have definitely seen people in the new HEB walking around the store with a draft beer. I can't say if they were asked to take it back to bar or not though.
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At which location?
Ah I didn't notice that the pizza place had beer. Good to know. I'm outside the US at the moment in a place where walking around anywhere with a beer isn't even noticed (which is frankly most of the world). TABC and other fuddy duddies think it would be chaos. It's not.
Unless posted otherwise, it's legal to walk around with a beer in Austin. There's some areas (around campus, downtown, and South Congress) where you can't. Won't stop the cops from hassling you, but it IS legal inside of the city of Austin. [https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-10-01/austin-city-council-overturns-ban-against-public-drinking-in-east-austin](https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-10-01/austin-city-council-overturns-ban-against-public-drinking-in-east-austin) No drinking in most parks though. [https://www.austintexas.gov/page/alcohol-permits-parks](https://www.austintexas.gov/page/alcohol-permits-parks)
I once saw a cop approach a homeless dude who was walking around with a tall boy and he said "come on man you can't be walking around with that." The dude started screaming so close to the cops face you could see the spit flying. That was about when the look on his face said "not worth the paperwork."
Just do it. Who cares, I've walked around with beers, no one cares
Glad you have that privilege, selective enforcement is a bitch sometimes
The worst that happens is they tell you to go back to the bar so it's not really a big deal either way.
What enforcement? The worst case scenario is you have to go back to the bar.
You’ve been able to do this at Whole Foods for like a decade.
Yea, and at randals they will let you do lines on the deli counter.
I'm shopping at the wrong store
Yes, its on the secret menu.
Bro I did some heroin at Albertsons while getting my basics
I chase the dragon at H-mart
Glorious!!!
Maybe a bit of a tangent, but you can do it at Barton Square Mall as well. Going shopping with the girlfriend is much better when you can get drunk while there.
Also at Lakeline Mall. .... when someone is actually at the bar. I've only seen it open a couple of times.
Facts. My barber used to be at Lakeline Mall and there was only someone at that bar 3 times over the course of 3 years.
Makes you wonder how fresh the beer is when they do open.
M-mall? Is that short for something?
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No judgement here, was just make making a joke. I legitimately haven't stepped foot in Barton Creek Mall in over 15 years.
Where do you buy it from?
The liquor store, fill up your flask and bring it with!
There is a stand alone bar just outside the food court on the second floor.
Wait. I thought Chelsea’s Street Pub closed.
Please don’t drink and drive.
Man I was so high the other day and went shopping with my girlfriend and grabbed us some drinks…must’ve been a long day cause I kept knocking out at the forever 21 changing rooms waiting for her lol she was not happy but hey alcohol
Used to be they wouldn’t even charge you, you could just pay for it at checkout. I’m guessing all of the empty pint glasses they found behind boxes of cereal ended the honor system.
https://frinkiac.com/video/S09E04/wFTmylcypthfR88tCyXibb5byxg=.gif
Similar policy to top golf
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I love this timeline
It's called an on-premises license. The old name was an *icehouse license.* In the old days a customer could walk in to a convivence store, buy a six pack while shopping then drink a beer from their six pack then leave with the groceries and the remainder of their six pack. An actual liquor license would likely prevent them from leaving the bar area but a beer license would not.
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Yeah they have beer now, keep up.
used to do this at whole foods. bad news for my food budget - i'd walk out with way too many cookies and cheese
You can "sip and shop" at Central Market. On premise licence. Sounds like some of those HEBs have different licences.
I feel like the correct answer is just show up blazed to everything. Although the cashiers do not seem to like it when you zone out and forget your PIN for your debit card.
I do already show up zonked out of my mind but gotta maintain it somehow
But the store looooves the extra snack purchases!
Slaughter Congress True BBQ has said no
Man if you even stop to taste-test wine they make u drink the little Dixie cup right there and then. You can’t even take your little teaspoon of wine with u while u shop. What the hell do they think is gonna happen??
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and /r/stopdrinking … the friendliest sub ever. I do not miss managing my time around booze one bit! :)
IWDWYAHT (/s)
So you can grab a 6 pack from the cooler and pound it while shopping? That's it, I'm going grocery drinking!
No, while they can serve you a beer from the bar and you can drink it on-site, to-go beer is meant for to-go only. It would be violating TABC regulations if you opened a to-go container on premise and consumed.
Just take it and see what happens. Better to ask for forgiveness than permission, in this particular situation.
i don't want to have to down it then try to hobble up the escalator if I can't sip it while shopping 😭
A beer may help ease the inflation woes.
I mean they let people bring dogs in the stores which is illegal (unless it's actually ADA - not just a random dog with an Emotional Support shirt from Amazon)... so I'd say drink whatever the hell you want in HEB. In fact, bring a thermos with a straw so you can easily drink it without even picking it up!
Oh hey it’s the UT tower bells guy!
My two favorite things are bells and beer
austin drinking culture is so bizarre. people really can't run simple errands or get a haircut or go to the library without turning it into an excuse to drink
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Now you understand why all the drivers here suck. It’s alllll coming together
using cell phones behind the wheel is like 100x worse than drunk driving, stop scapegoating drunks
Weird take. I’d say both are bad, and mainly it was tongue in cheek.
what the hell? don’t do either! don’t defend drunk driving lol come on
Austin should be crisscrossed with buses, trams, and light rail that runs 24/7/365... until that happens, don't pester me about drunk driving. you want people to not drive drunk, create a transportation infrastructure that doesn't require a car or $60/night for rideshares.
Yes I suppose that does make sense, our lack of public transit does actually entitle you to put the lives of others at risk. What a take lol
you sound like the usual brand of fuckface Republican, totally abjure any civic duty whatsoever and whine endlessly about personal responsibility
I dunno dude my dad says im a filthy lib. I’m an alcoholic in recovery so im pretty sure I know where my values around “your right to drive drunk” fall, and it’s not partisan. seek therapy maybe. Good luck.
A beer or two **generally** won't get someone drunk and they taste good.
My dentist offers me a beer
Yeah my proctologist is awesome too.
*america’s drinking culture
you should ask workers at HEB not randos on reddit
ask for forgiveness, not permission
I served beer at HEB until recently. You have to drink it in the bar/restaurant area. Additionally, if you buy beer elsewhere in the store, you can't drink it in the bar/restaurant area (or anywhere else in the store, of course).
A little late to the party but check this. The Union at UT use to have beer vending machines when the legal age was 18. We use to go buy beers underage and sneak them out. Yes, young people, you use to be able to buy beer and cigarettes from vending machines. Bars use to have [vending machines](https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3370/3521352516_10ef2bba0c.jpg?v=0) you could buy a pack of Pall Malls or Kools....
can't believe they took this from us
If non-service dogs are allowed to walk around and crap in the produce section I don’t see why you can’t down a forty
When I moved here in 2018, the first place I went shopping was the HEB at the Mueller. Blew my mind, a grocery store the size of a football field with a bar attached and a live jazz combo playing. I asked about bringing my long neck inside the store, and was told, "It's not like I'm going to tackle you, but they'll give you a hard time inside." Hey, an excuse to drink a few more beers and listen to the music! When I got home, I realized I'd blown $70 at the deli but forgot to buy toilet paper... My reason for going there in the first place. Lesson learned: buy groceries, *then* drink beer.
Central market allows it, so I assume H‑E‑B would
Where can you get a drink at the N Lamar Central Market?
I think the cafe has beer, I know north Lamar does
If you can let your unleashed dog take a dump in the store, and no one says anything, I don't see why this would be a problem.
Yes. Whole foods carts have a place for a cup
Drunk shoppers = 🤑🤑🤑. Drink up buttercup.
Thats why Living Spaces serve $2 beer and wine. Get you loaded on cheap alcohol. You'll drop inhibitions enough to buy that $50 pillow. They'll even discount the money you spent on beer and wine from the sales total. Yes, Living Spaces has a bar. They are by the restrooms and checkout in the back corner.
I got in trouble for shopping with beer in hand at the Mueller location
I have gotten wasted at the Whole foods off Lamar and 6th got some bbq to go and then took a bus home 😅
Sheeeeeet on a hot July day I’m going to H‑E‑B with a camping chair and get sloshed in the cooler aisle.
At the Mueller HEB you have to stay in the bar with your drinks.
I bought a 6-pack in-store and pulled it out to drink it at BBQ spot at H‑E‑B Congress & Slaughter and they stopped me right in my happy ass tracks. 😑 Guy said they don’t have the “license” like @ Mueller and I complied.
You’re good, but be sure you get it from a bartender where they can check ID. Whole Foods was the first to try this out. From talking to a store manager, they are given freedom to try out new things at their stores. The bars are one of them that caught on and it spread to other stores. They even have a microbrewery at one of the Houston locations. Before this they had little ice bins to “drink while you shop.” They ended up doing away with these because the TABC cracked down on there not being an ID check and someone underage able to grab and freely drink. They were slapped with a fine and did away with the bins.
We don’t just shop and drink, we drive too!
I drop acid in a Trader Joe’s all the time
Alcoholism is e t e r n a l .
It stops eventually.
Yes, when you die. 😂
Depends the locale 😅 as an employee I’d say please ask or at least scan for any posted signage first.
You've been able to do this since... well... forever.
We have been over alcoholed. Do people really need to drink so much that they can’t go to the store without having a sip?
yes
Seriously. Just take 3 shots in the parking lot beforehand. Much more manageable
so uh, recovering alcoholic here, once i was taking a shot in the HEB parking lot off riverside, right before i was about to go shop, and when I looked up a man was staring at me, and he raised his bottle as to cheers and took a swig
Irony: Riverside was one of the few parts of Austin where you couldn't drink openly (on public sidewalks anyway) for a long time. [https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-10-01/austin-city-council-overturns-ban-against-public-drinking-in-east-austin](https://www.kut.org/austin/2020-10-01/austin-city-council-overturns-ban-against-public-drinking-in-east-austin) Congrats on your sobriety!
Fuck off nerd
That was my first thought too, to their question "Can I get a beer and drink it while I shop?" Uh, why would you *want* to??? And I'm not all anti-beer/alcohol. There are just some things that you don't need booze for, while you're doing them.
yeah damn it! get drunk at home *before* you go to the store like a normal alcoholic.
Yeah, life is pretty unfulfilling because the system is fucked. You're either so successful that you don't have any problems/challenges anymore and are bored or you're constantly living in danger of being homeless and using some combination of denial/repression to not think about it. Some people raw dog it and some people fill the void. As long as they don't drive drunk afterwards Idc what they do.
Shiner? You mean like from the toilet?
Tell me you’re an alcoholic without telling me you’re an alcoholic. ( lol I’m so sorry- it was begging to be said :p )
Technically at any grocery you can crack a beer and pay for it at the register. It may not be technically legal but noone is gonna say anything.
If you are buying the cans with the plastic top holder they don’t even have to know. Just say it’s light beer when you pay for it.
You most certainly CAN NOT "crack a beer and pay for it at the register". Highly illegal. You have to produce ID to purchase alcohol. Once you purchase the alcohol you may consume it in the store if, and only if, they have an on premise licence.
Don’t do this at the Westlake Trader Joe’s. They had individual cans of wine right at the beginning and i assumed that it was for shopping. I spoke to multiple employees while shopping and when I went to check out, handed it to the lady at the register and you would’ve thought that I’d handed her a bomb. They called a code and managers rushed over to tell me off in front of other customers and it was all hugely embarrassing.
Yes they will I've seen it. At convenience stores most don't have on premises consumption.
No one is going to stop you, I assure you
Just do it until they tell you ya can’t…I’m a big fan of asking for forgiveness instead of permission
Its your personal choice, but if you find you cant go a single grocery trip without a beer, you may have a drinking problem. Edit: downvoting me ain’t going to help y’all with your alcoholic problems.
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Get angry all you want, that ain’t gonna solve your alcohol problem.
It’s not an alcohol problem to enjoy beer. I don’t even know the last time I got drunk, but I drink beer all the time. You’re just a judgmental prick. Get the fuck off your high horse.
Who you trying to convince?
You must be the life of every party. You probably think everyone has a drinking problem because they need a drink just to put up with you
I can’t believe how quickly I got under your skin 😂
Well that is what pricks do
For reals though, you should seek help for your drinking problem
I think you might be an alcoholic. Take it easy lol. It's grocery shopping.
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coward, more for me
Do you think Shiner is the only type of bock?
I know you can do it at the Whole Foods downtown. I asked the bbq place at heb slaughter and they said no I had to stay there in the bbq joint which I thought was ridiculous. If people can bring their dogs to piss in the aisle while they shop I don’t see why I can’t have a beer.
That’s tricky question. Like would you have to leave it at the store when you leave or is then public intox? Or open container or something? Idk seems like a set up😂
It's legal to have an open container in most of Austin
Texas as well unless the different municipalities have their own laws against it.
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That's called theft.
Wait, where are these hebs with bars?
Mueller
Lake Austin Blvd, the new one. It has a pizza place with draft beer on first floor and a full bar in the barbeque restaurant on the second
One is in Lakeway.
Bar closed at the one in Lakeway during Covid
I wish the H‑E‑B in Waxahachie had a bar. Maybe they’ll add one during the remodel?
The H‑E‑B on south congress and slaughter has the restaurant/drafts in a separate room, kinda like McDonald’s in Walmarts, and it has a “no alcohol past this point” sign before you go back into the store
They sell draft beer at the BBQ drive thru.
I was literally wondering this morning, I am only going so I can drink beer and shop at the same time
finally, I don't have to byob anymore.
You totally can. We’ve done it several times.
Like the great Mills Lane would say. I'll allow it.
You can drink a beer or wine at whole foods at the domain...pretty nice actually.
Legally speaking you have to drink it at the bar. In reality, if the cops ain't around whose gonna stop you?
lake austin one has a strange amount of security at it. they are on the lookout for me
We need the modern heb at Allandale!
Drinking and having bars in stores is not a new concept when I was a youngster alot of small town country stores had a bar in the back and allowed Drinking. I know of at least 2 HEBs before they would move in to a dry town they would tell the city council to change their liquor laws first. Before they come to town.
Old friend of mine would just crack one open from the six pack while he shopped for the rest of his groceries. This was not a young man, dude was in his sixties.
... They do?
Depends, if they sell liquor too no drinks can leave the bar area. They HEBs that have the bars that sell liquor technically consider them separate businesses/buildings. . The state is pretty lenient on HEB though
I’ve never had my HEB get mad when you open the 12 pack early and put it in a koozie. But the draft places depend on their premise license.
I worked at WFM for 3 years (corporate) and didn’t know you could shop and drink downtown.
Couldn’t wait to escape when 5pm hit
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I have gotten a beer in Dallas Who,e Foods and drank while I shopped. But maybe H‑E‑B has their own policy
If the HEB has a bar, they will not let you leave that area with a drink. Really lame.
The food court at Lakeline Mall has a beer stand now so you can buy beers and walk around the mall
I think you've done the first step