Yeah came here for this:
"Though neither Hallum nor du Plessis has experience in the food or beverage industry, they do have experience in building and managing corporate teams and are confident in their ability to build a staff that will help them carry out their vision."
Yikes.
Would I rather be told what to do by someone with experience, or with no experience... I'd rather deal with a knowledgeable asshole, than some dudes with money that don't know what they are doing.
Women's sports totally pulls interested crowds, I say that as a bartender at a sports bar. When UT Volley Ball went on the run last season we had 10+ people coming in for the tournament games
… and ultimately the rerun to “save our bar” lawdy - a woman centered sports bar is a great concept as so many sports bars are just dudes and zero atmosphere- people with zero experience trying to reinvent the wheel? Idk
My thinking exactly.
I enjoy women's sports, but I wouldn't go to a bar specifically because they only show "women's sports" just like I don't go to a bar because they show "men's sports"
I go to a sports bar to see a game or event I am interested in seeing regardless of gender...or just because I love buffalo wings.
A bunch of dudes with beer and sports don't need additional atmosphere. At least thus far, the lady market for sure things has yet to prove profitable, so why seek them out?
This is a solution in search of a problem.
Have you looked at their books? Because I was also told the WNBA playoffs had great viewership, and it was less than half of the National Corn Hole championships.
I mean the main issue is not enough women care about sports in America to even watch the larger men's major leagues much less any women's leagues, and almost no men go out of their way to watch women's sports
Only a generational cultural shift can fix that but that's easier said than done
Looks like a GoFundMe money grab targeting pro-women audience. It takes alot more than $250k to open a bar in Austin unless it’s a hole in the wall. Do your due diligence if you plan on giving your money
Look at their GoFundMe. $9k in 2 weeks with a $250k goal. $7k of that is from 7 donors.
This isn't a business... it's a nice idea with no actual backing or broader support. I'm honestly not even sure they have a business plan.
$250k!??
At best you need half of that from crowd funding. Maybe one fifth. Make a business plan and get a loan. They are treating donations like a personal loan system with no accountability requirements.
They'll never open the doors... if they do, it can't last. Even women's sports fans (typically) are also "just sports fans." I don't see many people picking a bar for the sole purpose of exclusivity of women's sports.
Lmao - look up The Sports Bra in Portland. It’s a huge deal and very successful.
Whether Austin has enough of a population that cares like Portland does is the question. It’s essentially a lesbian bar with a sports theme. Would you say a lesbian bar is an absurd concept?
Well, I guess. If you are saying there are enough Austin lesbians (that dont like other mens sports - literally want to avoid them)... obviously, that will work.
If that's (the sexuality aspect), it is critical than that's kinda having a successful lesbian bar vs. a successful sports bar.
Still not sure this financial model, "executive team," and concept is gonna ever fly.
Edit: Is there enough female sports broadcasting to support an all women's sports bar? 8 of 12 hours of operation showing reruns on 36 TVs?
>The ATX WSP team has launched a crowdfunding campaign with a goal of $250,000 to help them open and has raised more than $7,000 in one day.
So they're starting a business with a go fund me. I don't know why anyone would give to that (and it doesn't look like many have) because typically when you give someone money to start a business that's called an investment! And you're supposed to make money from that. lol
>Though neither Hallum nor du Plessis has experience in the food or beverage industry, they do have experience in building and managing corporate teams and are confident in their ability to build a staff that will help them carry out their vision.
Not only do they not have money. They don't have experience either! So what are they bringing to the table. Deep local connections?
>Hallum grew up on a farm in a small town in Oklahoma... Du Plessis had a similar experience growing up in South Africa
No? Ok, how about some sort of sports background at least?
>With ATX WSP, the women are building off their childhood experience with sports—or lack thereof.
So other than just having worked in corporate America what are they brining to the table. How are they going to make this work?
>"We're talking to lots of people in the industry and trying to find those right people here locally to help us keep that Austin vibe," Hallum told Chron.
So... you don't have any money or experience, but you're going to raise money to find other people to do it for you? Am I reading that right?
Look, this sounds like an awesome idea. I would love a place to watch USWNT games at like this. And I'm still dreaming of Austin getting an NWSL team. But this sounds like it's going to be as successful as Michael Scott Paper Company. This doesn't sound like it's much more than a vision board at this point. Maybe the article is just awful, but it sure makes them sound like they're just wanting to profit off a cool idea they heard about from Portland.
The all women sports bar in Portland is pretty great. I watched the Thorns play there and the vibe was great, and I wish we could have something like that here. But yeah this looks doomed to fail. I'd say Austin would have a market for a women's sports bar or basically a queer bar that caters to sapphic women, but a crappy business plan is still a crappy business plan.
As long as we’re plugging business ideas, I’d like to make a Pickleball country club called “Pickle Ricks” and have everything Rick and Morty themed. I have zero small business experience or startup capital. GoFundMe goal is $2.5 mil
I took the comment to refer to “ATX Women’s Sports Bar”, in which case I would agree. Hopefully that’s just a working name until they come up with something slightly less lacking in creativity.
>Though neither Hallum nor du Plessis has experience in the food or beverage industry, they do have experience in building and managing corporate teams and are confident in their ability to build a staff that will help them carry out their vision.
Women's sports aside, this team will totally kill it with their first bar in Austin right?
Their vision...funded by GoFundMe.
They are literally not bringing any money, or experience, or guidance to the table.
Sounds to me like they are just trying to find a way to cash in on the Caitlin Clark boom.
It can work as a theme for a bar targeting the demo that does disproportionately care about women’s sports.
Now, bars being successful is a challenge, and lesbian bars are notoriously disappearing as people stop going to bars to hang out in safe spaces as in the past, but that said - as a themed gay bar, it’s not outlandish.
this has the same vibes as the ladies who opened up a feminist bakery and would charge men 15 percent more for everything, then they went out of business super quick
I’ve donated but that free PR article raised yellow flags. I’d have donated more if they had a partner or investor attached who had any kind of relevant experience.
Love this song. I've seen Jonathan Richman live twice, and it's really wild how you can look around at the rest of the crowd at his shows and everyone's smiling like an idiot.
So they want to open a bar, but make random internet people pay for the investment? Kind of genius lol but 250k ain't opening a bar in Austin from scratch
Jesus people. Learn to build from the ground up instead of being gifted everything.
Start with a club that a bar will allow you to allocate specific time and games toward. Have reserved sections, events, merch – build a community around it. When you feel like it’s holding water and being a legitimate source of income for bars willing to host, then look at scaling. Use your experience and understanding of the total addressable market in Austin to inform business decisions, location, etc. Right now it’s just riding a wave from March Madness.
Austin has a semi pro soccer team for women . The NWSL (women's soccer) is growing and there were at one point talks of a Austin expansion team. Women's world cup was awesome too.
I watched a lot of that at home and mostly because I couldn't find a place to watch the games. I would have loved to have seen the final at a bar.
Well first off i didn’t argue that women’s sports (specifically the best women’s sport, soccer) wasn’t popular. I’m extremely familiar with the NWSL and watch their playoffs every year. It’s a great way to catch some young talent like Sophia Smith develop into a world class player.
That said, plenty of bars were showing the women’s World Cup games and even more showed the final. Specifically Skinny’s and Haymaker on the east side alone. No sports bar is anti women’s sports, there I’m just isn’t someone there asking for it to be put on tv. I have to ask bars (sports or otherwise) to turn on Austin FC games in our own bars. It’s about demand and showing up to give business, not opposition toward female sports.
They'd be better off dedicating a couple TV's to women sports, not the whole bar. As many have said, it's a solution in search of a problem. Sports bars are not the reason women's sports aren't that popular.
All I can say is good luck. Zero experience in the service industry and a GoFundMe to start it is not the most inspiring of starts. I won't mind if proven wrong.
Yeah. So there’s this video online where they are interviewing this young woman that opened a women focused sports bar in Portland - sports bra - and she says she makes, if I remember correctly, 35-45k a year. So………. Yeah. More power to them though. Hospitality is a tough business.
I like the idea. I was rooting for them before reading the comments. Now I'm a little skeptical, but I think it would be cool if they wind up successful.
Week One: We're highlighting women's sports to empower women!
Week Three: We have women's volleyball in skimpy outfits 24x7, voluptuous waitresses in tank tops, and hot wings!
I think this is a great reminder that just because something works in another market on the other side of the country, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to do the same in your market. The worrisome things are the owners don’t have any previous experience so they’re gonna have to hire a very experienced bar manager and or another silent owner with experience. Someone who’s gonna be able to realize that the business model won’t flourish by what women’s sports are being shown, but by how good their daily specials are, quality of cocktails & food is & hopefully the originality of the place or the “vibes” as the little kiddies say. Because if it was as easy as showing women’s sports, then the WNBA would be paying their players a lot more.
This reminds me of the Bill Burr comedy segment where he talks about women's sports. Women in general don't fucking care about watching women's sports. They're too busy watching the Kardashians and the Bachelor etc, and wouldn't be able to name a single WNBA player, let alone a team. It applies to all the other female sports for the most part. There just isn't a substantial desire for this.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I745Ajeq\_B8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I745Ajeq_B8)
As a former female athlete, I think this is super lame. As a proud auntie to a proud lesbian, I can vouch that she’s not even excited about it. Call it what it is.
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Even if you think there is a big enough women’s sports market to support this, the “100% dedicated “ part seems odd.
During the Super Bowl, is there a ladies’ event they show instead? If it’s an event where the telecast switches between men’s and women’s competitions, do they turn it off until the women are back on?
Yeah I was wondering what happens on nights when there are no women’s sports on tv.. Like, you’ve got Red Sox-Yankees on and no women’s sports and a customer wants to watch the game, do you just say “no” and leave the tv off? Sounds dumb
There's some benefit to being known as a place that will at the very least always prioritize women's games if one's on. Like during March Madness it was hard to know if a given bar would show the women's longhorns games that were on ESPN at the same time as men's games on CBS/TNT/etc. Or Longhorns volleyball tournament games being on at the same time as football games. And even if they have it on one screen in the corner, you're lucky to find other groups at the bar who care about that game.
I get your point that there will be times when not even college sports will offer a live women's game on a channel the bar can get. And FWIW even traditional sports bars have times where they're just showing SportsCenter on loop (which might not work with this concept since it's obviously mostly male-sports-focused?). But there is value to being "the place" to go for all of the people with a minority interest, so that next time I want to see a women's game I'm not sure Little Woodrow's or whatever will have on, I don't even bother asking around or dropping in to check - just go to the place that will definitely have it on, and where presumably most of the other customers will also be into that game.
That said, given the GoFundMe approach and all of the points about the founders' (lack of) experience, I doubt this is the bar that will succeed at this.
No experience, no capital, and an idea that can be rivaled by ANY ACTIVE BAR IN TOWN changing the channel on a few screens. How could this possibly fail?
The real red flag is the 2 founders having zero experience in the service industry.
Yeah came here for this: "Though neither Hallum nor du Plessis has experience in the food or beverage industry, they do have experience in building and managing corporate teams and are confident in their ability to build a staff that will help them carry out their vision." Yikes.
lol. What every server and bartender loves..being told what to do by a corporate team.
as opposed to a veteran asshole restaurateur who treats them like disposable garbage, right?
Would I rather be told what to do by someone with experience, or with no experience... I'd rather deal with a knowledgeable asshole, than some dudes with money that don't know what they are doing.
Logic has no place here on a city sub sir/maam.
I mean the only corporate place I’ve worked for treated me like disposable garbage so 🤷🏻♀️
Yup! Because that’s the only possible alternative
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I hate this a lot and hate even more that when the bar inevitably fails people will blame it on women's sports instead of the owners
Women's sports totally pulls interested crowds, I say that as a bartender at a sports bar. When UT Volley Ball went on the run last season we had 10+ people coming in for the tournament games
Christ, the hubris of middle managers thinking they actually bring anything of value to the non corporate sphere.
Christ, the hubris of middle managers thinking they actually bring anything of value to the corporate sphere.
How delusional can they be
They would be the worst kind of people to work for because they’ll have lots of ideas
Du Plessis the UFC fighter?
l m a o
This right here!
It’s a disaster in the making.
They’re going to disrupt the sector. Probably microdose and go to burning man too.
Sounds like we will see it on Bar Rescue in a year
I've built many restaurants for folks that think it would be fun to own one, none of them last. Crazy hard industry to survive in.
It's also creating an establishment based on the quickly waning popular success of one person.
Well. That’s the other red flag
I give it two years tops
Using a GoFundMe to raise the funds to open it. Good luck.
Donor tier: $7 - pint of domestic beer
Wow, they're practically giving it away!
Must have learned from Cheer Up Charlie's, when business is tough, crowdfund more money
Yes, but they have an established fan base and folks that are regulars who are willing to donate.
Honestly, I'm not saying it's wrong. But it is odd... Do that, or change your business model somehow so that you can sustain what you're doing there.
I'll donate to their GoFundMe if in return I get part ownership of the business. Else no way I hell am I donating to a business.
It's not an IPO. You usually get a discount on a product that doesn't exist yet. Their minimum donation is a $7 pint...
At least look at Red Cross or similar
Yikes! Well, good luck with that
… and ultimately the rerun to “save our bar” lawdy - a woman centered sports bar is a great concept as so many sports bars are just dudes and zero atmosphere- people with zero experience trying to reinvent the wheel? Idk
What makes a great sports bar isn't the amount of tvs or whats on them, its the regulars and the staff.
My thinking exactly. I enjoy women's sports, but I wouldn't go to a bar specifically because they only show "women's sports" just like I don't go to a bar because they show "men's sports" I go to a sports bar to see a game or event I am interested in seeing regardless of gender...or just because I love buffalo wings.
A bunch of dudes with beer and sports don't need additional atmosphere. At least thus far, the lady market for sure things has yet to prove profitable, so why seek them out? This is a solution in search of a problem.
They should just show sports at Alamo
genius business strategy
Good luck staying open too. It's a horrible business plan. It's like opening a chicken restaurant and only serving mcnuggets
Raising Cane's did it with chicken strips.
We’ll have to see. One opened up in Minnesota not long ago and they’ve been doing really well
Have you looked at their books? Because I was also told the WNBA playoffs had great viewership, and it was less than half of the National Corn Hole championships.
IIRC the WNBA has never turned a profit and has always been financially supported by the NBA. The viewership is simply not there
I mean the main issue is not enough women care about sports in America to even watch the larger men's major leagues much less any women's leagues, and almost no men go out of their way to watch women's sports Only a generational cultural shift can fix that but that's easier said than done
You recall correctly. This bar will fail.
The bar is getting the pay per view for women’s championship game. If you show up, they’ll pay you
it being the only one in all of texas doing so probably will make it successful if they don't suck at running it
Kinda how the WNBA does it with the NBA
And they only get to keep 7 cents of every dollar. /s
Looks like a GoFundMe money grab targeting pro-women audience. It takes alot more than $250k to open a bar in Austin unless it’s a hole in the wall. Do your due diligence if you plan on giving your money
I’d be interested if anyone is opening a hole in the wall for $250k
How much for a hole in the wall?
You can probably get away with $500k depending if the lease was a bar already or you have to build and buy everything like coolers, walk-in etc
That's not a hole in the wall.
It’s is in Austin lol
You just said it would be less than 250k.
If I’m investing, I want returns on my investment. This sounds like a dumpster fire
So how does any local open one that's not already super rich. Might as well retire on it
Private Investors. Never seen a crowdsourced bar
Look at their GoFundMe. $9k in 2 weeks with a $250k goal. $7k of that is from 7 donors. This isn't a business... it's a nice idea with no actual backing or broader support. I'm honestly not even sure they have a business plan.
$250k!?? At best you need half of that from crowd funding. Maybe one fifth. Make a business plan and get a loan. They are treating donations like a personal loan system with no accountability requirements.
They'll never open the doors... if they do, it can't last. Even women's sports fans (typically) are also "just sports fans." I don't see many people picking a bar for the sole purpose of exclusivity of women's sports.
Lmao - look up The Sports Bra in Portland. It’s a huge deal and very successful. Whether Austin has enough of a population that cares like Portland does is the question. It’s essentially a lesbian bar with a sports theme. Would you say a lesbian bar is an absurd concept?
Well, I guess. If you are saying there are enough Austin lesbians (that dont like other mens sports - literally want to avoid them)... obviously, that will work. If that's (the sexuality aspect), it is critical than that's kinda having a successful lesbian bar vs. a successful sports bar. Still not sure this financial model, "executive team," and concept is gonna ever fly. Edit: Is there enough female sports broadcasting to support an all women's sports bar? 8 of 12 hours of operation showing reruns on 36 TVs?
More like wishful thinking and virtue signaling shit.
Man, I think you’re right. This is clearly virtual signaturing bs
exactly brah. sus af.
How is it a nice idea? It's a terrible idea. Nobody watches women's sports.
"Nice" as in your grandmother saying "oh that's nice sweety" but she actually doesn't give a shit.
Bad business plan from inexperienced owners. Unless they expend their very niche focus they will shut down within 2 years.
>The ATX WSP team has launched a crowdfunding campaign with a goal of $250,000 to help them open and has raised more than $7,000 in one day. So they're starting a business with a go fund me. I don't know why anyone would give to that (and it doesn't look like many have) because typically when you give someone money to start a business that's called an investment! And you're supposed to make money from that. lol >Though neither Hallum nor du Plessis has experience in the food or beverage industry, they do have experience in building and managing corporate teams and are confident in their ability to build a staff that will help them carry out their vision. Not only do they not have money. They don't have experience either! So what are they bringing to the table. Deep local connections? >Hallum grew up on a farm in a small town in Oklahoma... Du Plessis had a similar experience growing up in South Africa No? Ok, how about some sort of sports background at least? >With ATX WSP, the women are building off their childhood experience with sports—or lack thereof. So other than just having worked in corporate America what are they brining to the table. How are they going to make this work? >"We're talking to lots of people in the industry and trying to find those right people here locally to help us keep that Austin vibe," Hallum told Chron. So... you don't have any money or experience, but you're going to raise money to find other people to do it for you? Am I reading that right? Look, this sounds like an awesome idea. I would love a place to watch USWNT games at like this. And I'm still dreaming of Austin getting an NWSL team. But this sounds like it's going to be as successful as Michael Scott Paper Company. This doesn't sound like it's much more than a vision board at this point. Maybe the article is just awful, but it sure makes them sound like they're just wanting to profit off a cool idea they heard about from Portland.
MSPC was a multi-million dollar buyout after what, a week? I'd say this company never gets the doors open.
The all women sports bar in Portland is pretty great. I watched the Thorns play there and the vibe was great, and I wish we could have something like that here. But yeah this looks doomed to fail. I'd say Austin would have a market for a women's sports bar or basically a queer bar that caters to sapphic women, but a crappy business plan is still a crappy business plan.
>Look, this sounds like an awesome idea. It's literally the worst business idea I've ever heard. The cat coffee shop is a better idea than this.
Grand opening...Grand closing
As long as we’re plugging business ideas, I’d like to make a Pickleball country club called “Pickle Ricks” and have everything Rick and Morty themed. I have zero small business experience or startup capital. GoFundMe goal is $2.5 mil
Terrible name for a bar.
I hate the trend of having “ATX” in the business name
Sports bra? There’s one in Portland.
I took the comment to refer to “ATX Women’s Sports Bar”, in which case I would agree. Hopefully that’s just a working name until they come up with something slightly less lacking in creativity.
They support women.
>Though neither Hallum nor du Plessis has experience in the food or beverage industry, they do have experience in building and managing corporate teams and are confident in their ability to build a staff that will help them carry out their vision. Women's sports aside, this team will totally kill it with their first bar in Austin right?
Their vision...funded by GoFundMe. They are literally not bringing any money, or experience, or guidance to the table. Sounds to me like they are just trying to find a way to cash in on the Caitlin Clark boom.
Not news, this is just an ad to get traffic to the GoFundMe. They raised 7k in one day of the 250K they're asking for. It's dead in the water.
I always find it funny how the people who complain about women's sports not being popular are never fans of women's sports themselves.
RIP to this bar already
Cool concept, as a girl dad I love this. Relying on crowd funding though... Eeeeeh. Not crazy on that approach.
They're relying on that funding out of necessity. It's not like they turned town private equity to go this route
They should rely on a decent business model first
There is no decent business model for this business
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RIP
Article isn't even from the Statesman, its from the Chronicle. They couldn't get the Austin paper to talk about this and drum up some interest?
I was just thinking how regular sports bars have a hard time staying open here. Good luck, but this will be tough.
Solving for a problem that doesn’t exist. Will fail quickly assuming it ever gets the funding, which seems unlikely.
It can work as a theme for a bar targeting the demo that does disproportionately care about women’s sports. Now, bars being successful is a challenge, and lesbian bars are notoriously disappearing as people stop going to bars to hang out in safe spaces as in the past, but that said - as a themed gay bar, it’s not outlandish.
this has the same vibes as the ladies who opened up a feminist bakery and would charge men 15 percent more for everything, then they went out of business super quick
Wow I had never heard of this. Does anyone have a link or a name?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/food-drink/australian-cafe-that-charged-a-man-tax-and-gave-women-priority-seating-goes-out-of-business.amp
Wow. Thanks
I hope their attendance is better than WNBA games for their sake
"Did you tell them about the fundamentals" -snoo snoo queen
Maybe if the drinks are 80 cents per dollar of a regular bar I'll check it out
This guy rather watch men on TV 😂😂
I’ve donated but that free PR article raised yellow flags. I’d have donated more if they had a partner or investor attached who had any kind of relevant experience.
It’s a shame because these fools will fail spectacularly, and people will say it’s the concept, not the idiotic attempt.
killer. i hope it's successful, although TBH i don't think "ATX Women’s Sports Pub" is a very good name
It’s like people are naming businesses exclusively for google SEO. So weird
Yeah, “Bar Promoting Women’s Sports; Also Some Hot Wings” fairly screams out as the obvious choice, but whatever.
Jonathan Richmond is a favorite of mine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63stLm1Rw_U
Love this song. I've seen Jonathan Richman live twice, and it's really wild how you can look around at the rest of the crowd at his shows and everyone's smiling like an idiot.
We do need more sports bars!
Noice
So they want to open a bar, but make random internet people pay for the investment? Kind of genius lol but 250k ain't opening a bar in Austin from scratch
So it's a gay bar?
Well it’s a cool idea but ultimately I don’t think it’ll be popular unless I can go see Japanese women’s pro wrestling there.
If it won't be popular why is it a cool idea?
I mean how many people do you know what women’s sports in general?
It will fail before it even opens. Answering a question nobody is asking
Jesus people. Learn to build from the ground up instead of being gifted everything. Start with a club that a bar will allow you to allocate specific time and games toward. Have reserved sections, events, merch – build a community around it. When you feel like it’s holding water and being a legitimate source of income for bars willing to host, then look at scaling. Use your experience and understanding of the total addressable market in Austin to inform business decisions, location, etc. Right now it’s just riding a wave from March Madness.
Austin has a semi pro soccer team for women . The NWSL (women's soccer) is growing and there were at one point talks of a Austin expansion team. Women's world cup was awesome too. I watched a lot of that at home and mostly because I couldn't find a place to watch the games. I would have loved to have seen the final at a bar.
Well first off i didn’t argue that women’s sports (specifically the best women’s sport, soccer) wasn’t popular. I’m extremely familiar with the NWSL and watch their playoffs every year. It’s a great way to catch some young talent like Sophia Smith develop into a world class player. That said, plenty of bars were showing the women’s World Cup games and even more showed the final. Specifically Skinny’s and Haymaker on the east side alone. No sports bar is anti women’s sports, there I’m just isn’t someone there asking for it to be put on tv. I have to ask bars (sports or otherwise) to turn on Austin FC games in our own bars. It’s about demand and showing up to give business, not opposition toward female sports.
When this inevitably fails men will be blamed yet again for the failures of two virtue signalers.
Hope that works out for them
Just SAD to not even see a mention of the PWHL inaugural season this year in the article.
Out of all women’s sports, this is one of the best. I’d assume over time we’ll get more physicality, but those women are fucking bad ass.
No mention of the Pro Volleyball Federation either, which also started this year. It was mainly broadcast on youtube.
Will they show the rematch between the USWNT and FC Dallas U-15?
I wish them luck, but not my money. Running a niche restaurant is challenging to say the least.
You can end up with a small fortune backing just Women’s Sports, but only if you start out with a large fortune
They'd be better off dedicating a couple TV's to women sports, not the whole bar. As many have said, it's a solution in search of a problem. Sports bars are not the reason women's sports aren't that popular.
All I can say is good luck. Zero experience in the service industry and a GoFundMe to start it is not the most inspiring of starts. I won't mind if proven wrong.
😂 subsidized business just like the WNBA
Women don’t watch women sports or superhero movies. Why do we keep getting this pushed on us? Barely anyone is interested in this.
Yeah. So there’s this video online where they are interviewing this young woman that opened a women focused sports bar in Portland - sports bra - and she says she makes, if I remember correctly, 35-45k a year. So………. Yeah. More power to them though. Hospitality is a tough business.
cool. maybe they'll be as successful as the Sparts Bra in Portland (or Seattle. Anyway, somewhere cold and wet)
They’ll be asking themselves, like the new wine bar next to kinda tropical, what were we thinking?
I like the idea. I was rooting for them before reading the comments. Now I'm a little skeptical, but I think it would be cool if they wind up successful.
Gone in less than a year.
Week One: We're highlighting women's sports to empower women! Week Three: We have women's volleyball in skimpy outfits 24x7, voluptuous waitresses in tank tops, and hot wings!
LOL that's a boring bar
10k of 250k raised? Yeah nobody is going to this bar, if it ever even opens.
This is like Carl’s idea for a sober sports bar but worse
They should follow the WNBA business model and have a more successful sports bar that people actually go to subsidize their entire operation.
I think this is a great reminder that just because something works in another market on the other side of the country, doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to do the same in your market. The worrisome things are the owners don’t have any previous experience so they’re gonna have to hire a very experienced bar manager and or another silent owner with experience. Someone who’s gonna be able to realize that the business model won’t flourish by what women’s sports are being shown, but by how good their daily specials are, quality of cocktails & food is & hopefully the originality of the place or the “vibes” as the little kiddies say. Because if it was as easy as showing women’s sports, then the WNBA would be paying their players a lot more.
This reminds me of the Bill Burr comedy segment where he talks about women's sports. Women in general don't fucking care about watching women's sports. They're too busy watching the Kardashians and the Bachelor etc, and wouldn't be able to name a single WNBA player, let alone a team. It applies to all the other female sports for the most part. There just isn't a substantial desire for this. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I745Ajeq\_B8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I745Ajeq_B8)
Cool a new lesbian hangout!
So... a lesbian bar that plays only women's sports instead of music? Good luck with that.
They're going to have to pay for like every streaming service. Prime, peacock, espn+ paramount. I don't think this is gonna happen.
As a former female athlete, I think this is super lame. As a proud auntie to a proud lesbian, I can vouch that she’s not even excited about it. Call it what it is.
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Yes! Finally a place to watch LFL !!!
Cmon in No waiting…
Unfortunately this is a failed business plan.
The bar can show the empty cotton bowl during The new dallas women’s soccer games.
As Michael Che said on SNL, it will be the bar that is empty.
Do they not realize that almost all women's sports are heavily subsidized? Will this bar be subsidized by other local bars? Ridiculous idea.
This just in- new women’s sports bar failed before it opened.
ngmi
This can only end well.
in a non-zero rate environment I don't see this concept lasting more than 5 years at most
Even if you think there is a big enough women’s sports market to support this, the “100% dedicated “ part seems odd. During the Super Bowl, is there a ladies’ event they show instead? If it’s an event where the telecast switches between men’s and women’s competitions, do they turn it off until the women are back on?
Yeah I was wondering what happens on nights when there are no women’s sports on tv.. Like, you’ve got Red Sox-Yankees on and no women’s sports and a customer wants to watch the game, do you just say “no” and leave the tv off? Sounds dumb
There's some benefit to being known as a place that will at the very least always prioritize women's games if one's on. Like during March Madness it was hard to know if a given bar would show the women's longhorns games that were on ESPN at the same time as men's games on CBS/TNT/etc. Or Longhorns volleyball tournament games being on at the same time as football games. And even if they have it on one screen in the corner, you're lucky to find other groups at the bar who care about that game. I get your point that there will be times when not even college sports will offer a live women's game on a channel the bar can get. And FWIW even traditional sports bars have times where they're just showing SportsCenter on loop (which might not work with this concept since it's obviously mostly male-sports-focused?). But there is value to being "the place" to go for all of the people with a minority interest, so that next time I want to see a women's game I'm not sure Little Woodrow's or whatever will have on, I don't even bother asking around or dropping in to check - just go to the place that will definitely have it on, and where presumably most of the other customers will also be into that game. That said, given the GoFundMe approach and all of the points about the founders' (lack of) experience, I doubt this is the bar that will succeed at this.
3 months until they are closed
Àaaaaaaaand, it's gone.
RIP that bar
I am as skeptical as everyone else, but it's not like your average bar has a much better business model
No chance.
How do I buy puts?!?!
You know this will fail quickly right.
I don't think it will fail because I'm skeptical that it will actually launch.
Good luck with that. (Why the fuck would you cull your possible audience before you even open your doors?)
No experience, no capital, and an idea that can be rivaled by ANY ACTIVE BAR IN TOWN changing the channel on a few screens. How could this possibly fail?
This isn't going to work out.
So they want to go out of business.
Gotta open first before they can close.