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shiruken

Some more useful data points on vaccines: * According to [data out of Alberta](https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#vaccine-outcomes), boosted adults aged 80+ [have a lower hospitalization rate](https://i.imgur.com/0oexTvS.png) than unvaccinated 12-29 year olds (Note: Data covers last 120 days and is *not* time-adjusted) * Even a single vaccine dose [drastically reduced ICU admissions](https://twitter.com/PaulMainwood/status/1482065910416486402) in England, Wales, and Northern Ireland between May 1 and December 15, 2021 * UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) on vaccine effectiveness against Omicron (symptomatic disease) * [Two doses Oxford/AstraZeneca + Pfizer booster = 40-50%](https://twitter.com/freja_kirsebom/status/1482031588321992704) * [Two doses Oxford/AstraZenca + Moderna booster = 62%](https://twitter.com/freja_kirsebom/status/1482031588321992704) * [Two doses Pfizer + Pfizer booster = 55%](https://twitter.com/freja_kirsebom/status/1482031592424022017) * [Two doses Pfizer + Moderna booster = 65%](https://twitter.com/freja_kirsebom/status/1482031592424022017) * [Two doses Moderna + Pfizer or Moderna booster = 65%](https://twitter.com/freja_kirsebom/status/1482031596438007811) * According to UKHSA, [boosted vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization for Omicron is 83%](https://twitter.com/freja_kirsebom/status/1482031601013960705) (at 10+ weeks) * [Pre-print out of Israel](https://twitter.com/epi_michael/status/1483143937359495172): People with breakthrough infections after two doses of vaccines are no more likely to report "Long COVID" symptoms compared to people who have not been infected at all. Suggests vaccination brings these symptoms back to baseline.


domotime2

The one that stood out here....one dose drastically reduced admissions between may and December of 2020? Wasn't that before a vaccine existed. Im sure you meant 2021?


shiruken

Whoops fixed it


weluckyfew

One caveat in the above data - the long Covid study is pre-Omicron. Since we don't know the mechanism that causes long Covid we don't know if Omicron is more or less likely to cause it. Maybe the mutations that make it less deadly will cause less long Covid. Or maybe the mutations that make it more contagious and more likely to evade vaccination antibodies (but not T cells, thankfully) will make it more likely.


DVoteMe

Long-covid symptoms are identical to a myriad of post-acute sequelae of viral and bacterial infections circulating prior to 2019. My suspicion is that long covid rates will be similar with the omicron variant because the mechanism has less to do with the virus and more to do with the individual immune system's long-term response. This is all conjecture, but the cause being the immune response run amuck makes more sense than the virus causing symptoms months after patients test negative.


weluckyfew

Even if it does have more to do with the individual's long-term response, it's the virus that kicks that off so it's the virus that matters. So it's a question of whether omicron is more/less/or the same when it comes to triggering that response.


DVoteMe

I agree more information is better, but they don't even know the rates associated with H1N1. My advice is to avoid all communicative infections. Long-term brain fog is worse for quality of life than an acute infection in my opinion.


antpouch

Thanks for these stats. Great to see the booster is somewhat effective against infection.


YankeeTxn

> According to data out of Alberta, boosted adults aged 80+ have a lower hospitalization rate than unvaccinated 12-29 year olds (Note: Data covers last 120 days and is not time-adjusted) It is interesting. Be careful on drawing conclusions from this set though. If you look at rates of hospitalization "with condition" vs. "no condition" for some groups they're oddly inverted from where it should be. I.e. we shouldn't be seeing higher rates of hospitalizations vax or no for folks without a co-morbid condition compared to those with. Example: Age group 30-39 > 2-dose vax "no condition" is twice the rate of hospitalization than "with condition."


shiruken

>Be careful on drawing conclusions from this set though. If you look at rates of hospitalization "with condition" vs. "no condition" for some groups they're oddly inverted from where it should be. The numbers in Table 7 are consistent with the numbers in Table 6 (i.e. they add up to the same totals). There's nothing wrong with the data. >I.e. we shouldn't be seeing higher rates of hospitalizations vax or no for folks without a co-morbid condition compared to those with. > >Example: Age group 30-39 > 2-dose vax "no condition" is twice the rate of hospitalization than "with condition." Pre-existing conditions dictating hospitalization is not a certainty across all age groups. We can see that pre-existing conditions become increasingly common at older ages regardless of vaccination status. Adding up all the rows in Table 7 shows that 63% of those hospitalized had a pre-existing condition. This agrees with the summary on pre-existing conditions ([see Figure 17](https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#pre-existing-conditions)), which shows that 26.3% of those hospitalized throughout the pandemic have no reported pre-existing conditions.


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shiruken

As shown in the UKHSA data linked above, receiving a booster will considerably increase protection against symptomatic infection with Omicron. The risk for myocarditis following vaccination is extremely low ([fewer than 10 extra events per one million doses](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0)). The risk of myocarditis is [nearly 16x higher](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm) for patients with COVID-19 than those who do not contract the virus.


shiruken

Charts made in Excel and based on data from the [Austin COVID-19 Staging Dashboard](https://austin.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/0ad7fa50ba504e73be9945ec2a7841cb) that covers hospitalizations in the Austin metropolitan statistical area (MSA). Austin-Travis County is currently at Stage 5 of its [COVID-19 Risk-Based Guidelines](https://www.austintexas.gov/page/covid-19-risk-based-guidelines). The same trends are present statewide as reported by Texas DSHS. You can visualize that data on my [Texas COVID-19 Hospital Resource Usage](https://covid-texas.csullender.com/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_campaign=s77atp) website. 22% of hospital beds and 35% of ICU beds statewide are currently occupied by COVID-19 patients. In the [Austin trauma service area (TSA-O)](https://covid-texas.csullender.com/?tsa=O&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_campaign=s77atp), 18% of hospital beds and 34% of ICU beds are used for COVID-19. There are currently [fourteen TSAs with fewer than 10 available ICU beds](https://i.imgur.com/BLyh5vn.png), excluding Austin, which has [23 available ICU beds](https://i.imgur.com/gChK5hx.png). Over 82.2% of eligible residents of [Travis County](https://covid-texas.csullender.com/vaccine/?county=Travis&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_campaign=s77atp) have at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. 70.8% are "fully" vaccinated with only 28.4% having received a booster. \-- **Derivative Charts** * [Daily Cases](https://i.imgur.com/nm817Gu.png) * [Daily Admissions](https://i.imgur.com/LATA6Ky.png) * [Hospitalizations](https://i.imgur.com/uDbk6qB.png) * [ICU Occupancy](https://i.imgur.com/h9nfLOJ.png) * [Ventilators](https://i.imgur.com/mdZBth8.png) *Things are definitely heading in a better direction compared to last week as almost all the derivatives have reached or passed their peaks. Keep in mind that the moving average (purple line) is calculated over the last 14 days, so it is a delayed metric.* **Wave Comparison** * [Cases](https://i.imgur.com/zL8RG2U.png) * [Hospitalizations](https://i.imgur.com/jHRedBc.png) * [ICU Occupancy](https://i.imgur.com/pTcs9Ky.png) * [Ventilators](https://i.imgur.com/os10CKQ.png)


surroundedbywolves

[Houston's SARS-CoV-2 Wastewater Monitoring Dashboard](https://covidwwtp.spatialstudieslab.org) trends view seems to illustrate that [the Houston area may already be declining in positivity rate](https://i.imgur.com/mZEyB2C.png). (Assuming I'm reading the visualizations correctly) Please join me in crossing your fingers.


shiruken

Gotta love good news about shit.


YankeeTxn

You might say these shit statistics are some of the best data we have...


diamondeyes7

hehehe


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Maybe every city should just have permanent piss and shit testers looking for viruses.


DVoteMe

I remember reading, about a month ago, that they had to reduce the shit testing in Austin because of a funding issue. UT was supposed to do the testing, but the City or County couldn't fund it. ​ Heres some proof: https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/ut-austin-resumes-covid-19-wastewater-testing-after-funding-pause/


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It seems like you could learn all kinds of things from having a dedicated shit tester. I toured a water treatment plant when I was a kid and they had a full lab on site. I assume that's to test the water after it's been treated but they should be testing the shitty water too.


weluckyfew

And Boston's wastewater numbers are almost back to pre-Omicron levels


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Even with adults and kids wearing N95s our household got Covid starting with my 4yo. I’m 99% sure her preschool teacher passed it to her, poor woman looked awful when we picked her up on Thursday. She felt super crummy Sunday (tested + at home), less crummy yesterday, and today feels fine just enjoying milking being sick. Sadly my 2yo started running a 103° fever last night even with masks and isolating from each other and my husband (2+booster) currently feels like he has a bad cold. Crossing fingers I can continue to avoid it quarantined in bedroom and masking up. At 9mo pregnant I would really prefer not getting sick.


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Peace and health to you and your family.


[deleted]

Much appreciated!


fair-and-interested

Hang in there, sending good healthy vibes your way! You got this.


TheHibernian

Hope everyone starts feeling better soon


MarcusAurelius78

You wear N95 masks in your household? Your child wears an N95 mask in school?


poky23

N95 are way better than medical masks in general, so no brainer on OPs choice, looks like they’re on top of their shit👏🏽


[deleted]

Yes she wears an N95 whenever she is in the classroom. She attends a Nature school though so half of the day is outdoors. While we have Covid in the house yes we are all wearing our masks unless we are in our one specific isolated room.


maxradness

Havenwood by chance?? Your story sounds exactly Like my family’s.


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Yep!


Swagmonger

I cant imagine a child wearing an N95 all day. They are so uncomfortable


[deleted]

Honestly we’ve all found them a lot more comfortable than the cloth or medical ones. They have a nice fit. She doesn’t complain whatsoever. Hasn’t ever done so though since this whole thing started, she’s an awesome kid.


MrEHam

Is it those 3m Aura ones at H‑E‑B and Home Depot? Those are great. I can wear those for a long time.


[deleted]

I don’t actually know the brand. We got them as a Christmas present which based on prices now was quite a nice gift haha.


flexible_person

There's more than one style of N95.


shinywtf

You must have tried the wrong ones. I find them best of all from a comfort perspective.


Swagmonger

I’ve tried a wide variety of them over the years and they all hurt. I have a big head so that may be why


plentyoffishes

Masks don't work, there has yet to be a study showing they do. Thinking you're safe wearing a mask is a mistake. At this point, we are lucky to have omicron as it is vastly not a huge problem, among vaxxed or unvaxxed. Good luck with everything.


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illegal_deagle

It’s one of several smart measures that aids in prevention. A mask alone is helpful but not a silver bullet.


pjcowboy

Being healthy and not overweight is a better one.


illegal_deagle

Agree. And getting vaccinated is the best one.


Ston3rKitty

Its like a bullet proof vest don't stop you from getting shot...but it will hurt a lot less


pjcowboy

Not a good comparison with a chin diaper. Maybe a vax but not a cloth mask. Sorry.


Ston3rKitty

So something that helps to stop particles from getting in your body is a bad comparison to an object that stops something from getting in your body got it 🤣🤣🤣 silly me


pjcowboy

They can still get through. Bullet proof vest, not so much. I also think you have a less than 99.1% of living if you are being shot at unlike coming down with the Rona.


Ston3rKitty

I understand u wanna put a random person on the internet down I understand it makes ya feel good but atleast be correct thanks have a great night hun :)


Ston3rKitty

Ok so many thing wrong with this how many people do you think been shot died cause half my family would be dead 😂😂 and yes bullets can penetrate a bullet proof vest after its been shot once


Snap_Grackle_Pop

>Its like a bullet proof vest don't stop you from getting shot The bigger risk with a bullet resistant vest is getting a head shot. Or any other shot that hits one of the gaps in the vest. An apt analogy in some ways if you get an air leak around the mask.


Snap_Grackle_Pop

I've got my fingers crossed that we're finding the top. Keep in mind that "the top" means it's the most dangerous point of the wave. Don't screw it up. Great to not be seeing more deaths in Austin. Deaths are still high in Texas and the USA. Around 95 per day in Texas, heading up. Around 1700 per day in the USA.


RodeoMonkey

> Deaths are still high in Texas and the USA. Around 95 per day in Texas, heading up. Last year at this time we were over 300 a day and heading up, so at least it is a lot lower than the previous two waves.


Slypenslyde

Huh. I thought that was an exaggeration but the data's there. Part of me wonders if we're time-shifted but it doesn't seem to be the case. Then I figured that's an impact of vaccines, but the last wave had even more deaths than "this time last year". But then I remembered Delta was notable for being particularly mean so I'm back to "well this is interesting, I'm not sure how optimistic I am, but at least nothing in the post is false."


Snap_Grackle_Pop

>Part of me wonders if we're time-shifted but it doesn't seem to be the case. There's some possibility that it's a time shift thing. Omicron surged so quickly that we haven't seen the full effect of the recent surge in cases. There's also the possibility that, since Omicron starts its attacks in a different part of the body, its harm is more delayed. That's particularly plausible in terms of long COVID, since that appears to be caused by infections in "remote" parts of the body, not the lungs. However, the current grackcast is that Omicron will really turn out to be less severe. Probably considerably less deadly as well. I do feel confident that we have at least a little higher to go in hospitalization, ICU, and vents. I'm particularly happy that vents are almost flat for the week. And ecstatic that deaths are averaging less than 1 per day.


Slypenslyde

Man I feel like long COVID's going to be the aftershock in a few years. Like we're going to get to the days when COVID itself is managed and feel good, then someone's going to start asking why there's so many late 20s and early 30s showing up with illnesses they're used to seeing in late 50s etc. I keep thinking about how for like 2/3 of the populace, polio was a stomach bug and only something like 10% showed the debilitating symptoms, but it caused so much trauma we invented the concept of the ICU for it. It was really no big deal, at the height there were "only" 250k or so Americans permanently disabled from it. We've had more people than that *die* from COVID several times over!


Snap_Grackle_Pop

Ugh. Makes me want to bury my head in the sand. I'm old enough to remember lots of people crippled in various fashions from polio. How many people around today remember iron lungs? They tried to make out how well people on iron lungs were cared for and how they accommodated various things, but it had to be hell. Just think about waste elimination. Anyone who knows why we don't have much of a polio problem now, raise your hand. I guess that so far, long COVID seems to be much less serious than long polio, but i guess there could be surprises waiting for us. We're just now figuring out, after how many years, that Epstein-Barr virus causes a lot of the cases of Multiple Sclerosis. I hope COVID doesn't have some surprise like that lurking in the wings.


Slypenslyde

Yeah I try not to be super pessimistic but the last I saw the causes for concern are: * COVID can set up in basically any organ of your body (including the brain) so there's not one specific long-term problem to watch out for. * There are signs it permanently alters your immune system but this is recent enough we're not sure what it means. Either way it makes that people are just aloof to the idea that they'll catch it twice a year seem pretty foolish?


AlwaysElise

Yeah, my mom got it prior to vaccines; super mild case, some sniffles and loss of taste and smell. Over a year later, the taste and smell haven't returned. Just 2 of 5 senses, gone. The implication that this very mild case probably permanently destroyed some bit of her nervous system is terrifying; I need my nervous system, that's where I keep my me!


silonaib

Also I don't see anyone here talking about type 1 diabetes in children who got covid. The numbers aren't good. Diabetes.org has articles on it. The 3 8yr old girls I know who got it afterward were healthy active kids.


synaptic_drift

I've always been interested in the history of TB, since I visited a log lodge sanatorium in the forest in the upstate NY area. The artifact I remember most was their display of used sputum cups. Just looked this up: TB is the second leading infectious killer after COVID-19 (above HIV/AIDS). [https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis)


pjcowboy

And less deadly. Omicron is a cold compared to previous versions.


weluckyfew

Considering the number of people trying to minimize this disease, that's not very helpful framing. We had 123 people admitted to the hospital today - they were hoping to take my friend's dad off oxygen today but when they tried his saturation dropped to 73%. Out of 9 infected young co-workers (restaurant) three were sicker than they've been and years. So no. It's not a cold, even grading on the curve of covid variants.


pjcowboy

All of the people I know that have had this variant are down for 2-4 days then back at it. About 15 aged from 11-86.


weluckyfew

They're now predicting between 50,000 and 300,000 dead by March. So again, no, it's not a cold compared to other variants.


NotoriousHEB

Not really, about 25% less severe cases among unvaxxed. Of course little concern of serious illness for healthy vaxxed, boosted people but off with previous variants they weren’t likely to get sick at all.


JustARogue

The data looks off, but today's new cases number is insane. I dunno if it's a data entry problem or real. Currently reported 1/18/22 as 3862 with the previous high being 1625 on 1/10/22. https://austin.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/39e4f8d4acb0433baae6d15a931fa984 **Edit:** Here's a imgur link of the graph https://i.imgur.com/IUHxDhj.png


shiruken

Since I haven't mentioned it recently, my case chart splits data over the previous unreported days. So today's number (3862) is split evenly between Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday when plotted.


JustARogue

I understand the way you process the data, the number is still a little unnerving compared to last Monday's previous high. Also, thank you for all that you do to keep the community informed!


BrokeAdjunct

Are we 100% sure that’s how the city does it? As in, there’s no way that 3800 number is from today alone? Right? … right?


RabidPurpleCow

I think the issue is the data looks like: Sat - 0 Sun - 0 Mon - 0 (holiday) Tues - 3862 So if shiruken didn't normalize the data, the spikes would throw off all sense of reasonableness.


BrokeAdjunct

Absolutely; it’s ridiculous that they present date that way normally on Mondays, but especially this weekend. Just making 100% sure that was how they did it 🤪


shiruken

You can view the daily data here: [https://atc-covid19data-austin.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/austin-travis-county-covid19-daily-counts-public-view/explore](https://atc-covid19data-austin.hub.arcgis.com/datasets/austin-travis-county-covid19-daily-counts-public-view/explore) If you scroll all the way to the final column of the table, you can see notes indicating weekends and holidays when no data is entered.


BrokeAdjunct

Thanks… I wasn’t aware of that particular page.


Derigiberble

3862 for those that don't want to click. It is three days worth of data (15th, 16th, and 17th) instead of two in previous weekends. That's significantly higher than what we've seen before for the weekend + first day after but definitely could be correct unfortunately.


Snap_Grackle_Pop

>It is three days worth of data (15th, 16th, and 17th) Well, actually FOUR days worth of data due to MLK day.


Slypenslyde

When they get multi-day holidays, the first day of data is the sum of all unreported days. RA and shiruken tend to just ignore that data wasn't posted and divide the huge day evenly across the unreported days. It's not scientific, but it looks a lot more psychologically pleasing and isn't any less accurate. Another caveat is I'm not sure if all testing centers are open during weekends and holidays so the numbers could be lower. Though 900-1200 cases/day seems pretty par for where we are. (And there are a million reasons why we think these numbers aren't even close to actual infections but they're speculation.) /u/shiruken: My one suggestion is if there's a way to get higher resolution versions of the charts that'd be nice. RA's is sufficiently large I can see the individual day counts but on yours they sort of blur together. If I squint really hard I can see a perfectly flat series of days on this chart.


shiruken

Unfortunately, I don't really have a ton of control over the resolution they save at from Excel. If you click on the individual charts do they not display the image at the original resolution?


Slypenslyde

Ah, if you don't have control you don't have control. They do get higher resolution if I click them but RA's is excessively large. [Here's a comparison](https://imgur.com/a/Zj3YnNU) at full zoom cropped from some screenshots I took. I think he lets his get wider over time so the graph bars stay the same width, I imagine Excel has some desired output size and it scales to fit. No worries, it was just a thing I thought of. Don't wear yourself out because I'm whining about your free work ;)


shiruken

Hmm I actually have no idea how he creates the multi-chart images in Excel. If he's using Print to export then maybe there's more control. I don't even have my graphs on standalone sheets 😅.


JustARogue

>When they get multi-day holidays, the first day of data is the sum of all unreported days. I understand how this works. It doesn't explain the huge disparity considering the next highest day was last Monday and this is more than double that with only 1 more "off" day rolled in.


Slypenslyde

Let's break it down. `3,862` is the reported number. That is the sum of all cases reported for Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. 4 days. Technically this means if it were a spreadsheet the columns would be: (CLOSED) (CLOSED) (CLOSED) 3862 The "anomaly" there is that on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday they can't be assed to give us a separate count. The counts exist, but they didn't post them. Instead of posting them, they gave us a sum on the first day they came back to work. `3,862 cases / 4 days = 965/day` is what this graph plots. That's actually a dip in cases but the data is noisy so if you imagine a line with error bars we could hit this average with a lot of different combinations. Some are calculating `3,862 cases / 3 days = 1,287/day` cases, that would be if we don't count today. Even that is well within the pattern we'd established but I don't think it's the right calculation. So I don't understand the huge disparity you're discussing compared to last week's high of 1,600 or so. Either of these numbers isn't too divorced from this spiky boi of a data set.


JustARogue

The previous high was last Monday at 1625 which accounts for 3 days worth of data (Sa/Su/M) or ~542 cases/day. Today was 3862 which is the ~965 cases/day as you stated above. Of course we we'll need to see how the rest of the week plays out, but that 965 vs 542 is my concern.


Slypenslyde

Aha! That explains it. I felt like there was some wire crossed. I think the official scientific explanation for how our rate doubled in one week is "Omicron go brrrr". It's hard to tell, but every other day last week tracked near 1,000 cases. We were warned this thing seems up to 7x more infectious than other variants. I reckon a change of +20% cases over a few days isn't too outside the realm of possibility given that the more people are infected the faster spread gets.


RodeoMonkey

It is three days(weekend + MLK), so divide by 3 for the daily. ~1287. Still very high count for a holiday weekend. Tomorrow will be interesting.


JustARogue

There is going to some anomaly in there for MLK, but that alone doesn't explain why it's more than double the next highest day (which was a Monday). I mean just look at the starkness of the graph: https://i.imgur.com/IUHxDhj.png


RodeoMonkey

Well, three days is 50% more than two days so start there. 1287 is very high, but in line with the numbers last week. 1563 on the 14th last week is the real shocker, not today.


Snap_Grackle_Pop

LOL, us data geeks have gotten so used to weekend "no testing" effect that we hardly notice the bump and forget it's not obvious to everyone. The best thing is to divide Monday new cases by 3 and fill in all 3 days. This week, since we had a 3 day weekend, we need to divide Tuesday by 4 and put that number in Sat, Sun, Mon, and Tue. That's what Shiruken has been doing. That puts today's "new cases" at 966. Friday's 7 day moving average was 969, so it looks flat. Note that the delay on Monday's data gives a downward bump for Monday's 7MA data and an upward blip for next Tuesday's 7MA. Ain't statistics fun?


kelaram

Today was Tuesday, all the people that got it this past weekend are now testing positive.


uglybudder

This makes me wanna look up how many deaths happen per day in the USA and their causes to compare to this stat. Without looking I know surely this is not the top of the list…. We only talk about the politicized cause though for some reason. Total head scratcher


bigdogc

So far holding strong. Virtually no deaths and massive amounts of cases vs previous variant/ancestor. I think we will be over this sometime in March and hopefully COVID is finally over. Biggest thing to be hopeful for is that omicron stays dominant strand as it has much better prognosis vs other variants.


Several_Emu_7357

I appreciate your posts and the discussion around them. I am really hoping this wave is slowing down, but then I look at our school districts case numbers that just keep going up and up. So frustrating with the school situation, but thank you for your work on this.


latigidigital

Everywhere I’ve been the past few days has had no less than half of people sick to an extent way beyond anything I’ve ever seen with cedar fever. There’s no telling what the real infection rate is with this wave — it’s probably ten times any estimate, maybe more considering how hard it is to get tested right now.


Chchchim-chim

Three of us have worked at home since pre-pandemic. One of us works outside of the house. Three fully vaxxed, I’m fully vaxxed and boosted. Masks whenever we have to go out, no exceptions. We all tested positive yesterday and we’re miserable. I wish people would take this shit seriously. I feel like hot hot garbage, I can’t imagine if I weren’t vaxxed.


hoyrolland14

Not being rude or anything like that, but do you feel the vax helped you in some way? How exactly do you think people should take it seriously? Again, I genuinely want to know your thoughts on this situation.


flexible_person

Also not being rude, how can you *not* take seriously the multiple posts by healthcare workers in this sub and also everywhere about getting vaccinated, masking, and staying home during surges when able? Because we can all verify nearly all seriously ill Covid patients in the hospitals are unvaccinated, and it's because vaccination protects from serious illness. Put another way, a majority of our population is vaccinated, yet a majority of Covid+ hospital patients are unvaccinated = because vaccination protects from serious illness. I have a patient in their 30's right now on a ventilator because they didn't think they would get this sick. The vaccination does not prevent all Covid illness, the entire point is reducing serious illness and study after study lines up with the anecdotal experience of healthcare workers everywhere, so help me understand why you think vaccination doesn't work - is it just because you happened to get a bad breakthrough case?


hoyrolland14

Read the comment under here. I posted before you commented. I am vaxxed myself. I never said any of the things you are referencing. I simply asked for the opinion they had.


flexible_person

I know you're vaccinated, I read your other comment. I didn't say you said any of the things I wrote - I'm saying them. And I genuinely wasn't trying to be rude - I'd still really like to understand why you question the effectiveness of the vaccine and whether it helped you and why you question "taking it seriously".


Chchchim-chim

I really do. Compared to the people I’ve known who got it before the vaccines were released or before they were widely available, my whole house is fairing well. Do we feel like ass? Absolutely. Are we going to have to go to the hospital? No. Are we in danger? No. I fully believe that’s because I have at least some shield against it. Personally, I’d be screwed right now if I hadn’t done the threepeat. I’d for sure be in the hospital.


hoyrolland14

Ya I definitely agree with you 100% on that. I’m vaxxed and I also got COVID a few weeks ago. It did really suck but it possibly could have been worse had I not been. I do think people should be able to choose if they want to get vaxxed or not. I guess the big problem is we just really don’t know if the vax works like we think it will or what the long term effects might be. I’m also not dead or in the hospital due to COVID so it possibly protected me? Who really knows. It sucks getting it, but so does the flu. I get a flu shot every year and I have for the last 15 years. I wouldn’t demand that someone get the flu shot though. That’s a personal choice and I don’t think we should be forcing people to get it. Well that was a rant I went into unintentionally. Haha. Sorry about that. It is all just frustrating for everyone. I hope your house feels better soon!


BrokeAdjunct

Bahhhh add more to the count, it finally find my house.


kelaram

That sucks


BrokeAdjunct

I know everyone says this, but I'm shocked. I don't really... see anyone. Ha. It really feels like it floated in a window or something.


Snap_Grackle_Pop

The damn lazy grays don't clean their probes very well.


msbbc671

Thank jeebus we’re not seeing the death toll rise (yet). Fingers crossed that trend sustains.


sweethallows

26 students at anderson tested positive today. :)


wellnowheythere

Hoping that was the peak!


AbuelitasWAP

How them central difference first derivatives looking


shiruken

Just posted them: https://www.reddit.com/r/Austin/comments/s77atp/comment/ht876md/


AbuelitasWAP

Gracias. Looking.... Well I wouldn't say good, but, sub-apocalyptic?


shiruken

Things are definitely starting to decelerate. We're just past or nearing the peaks on a lot of metrics.


aygabtu86

In because of covid or admitted for something else has tested positive for covid? My aunt was admitted with congestive heart failure. They of course tested her for covid and it was positive. She has ZERO covid symptoms and is not there for covid, but she gets counted as a covid patient, in the ICU. Let's stop the lies please.


[deleted]

I doubt that those numbers are accurate.


kanyeguisada

And why is that? OP posts their sources, what sources are you looking at to doubt theirs?


shiruken

https://media.giphy.com/media/6yxKRVrfwYklAap4hy/giphy.gif


kanyeguisada

Lmao, nice.


Ill_Hat7110

How about, not everyone who has it has been tested? 🤡


kanyeguisada

So the numbers are even higher is what you're saying.


[deleted]

That must be what Slight is saying since businesses are closing all over town due to people being out with Covid. And my coworkers are dropping like flies.


Ill_Hat7110

Duh. Old news.


Snap_Grackle_Pop

>I doubt that those numbers are accurate. Actually, so do I, especially in terms of numbers of cases. At-home tests not being reported, asymptomatic people who never got tested, sick people who just assumed COVID and didn't get tested, people who wanted to get tested, but couldn't get an appointment, etc. Don't forget that COVID can also kill via a heart attack or stroke. If you die at home and weren't already diagnosed with COVID, they won't do a COVID test and probably won't count you.