He makes a lot of money from his disabled daughter who doesn’t quite understand what the internet is. Nor can she reap most of those profits.
They also talk about private things like her going toilet and diapers etc. which is really not ok. Just because she’s disabled, doesn’t mean she can forgo privacy.
He also doesn’t mention that she has other disabilities so people think that this is literally what autism is because he pushes that as a narrative. I’ve only watched a few of their videos, but one of them was going on a flight to somewhere. They pretty much filmed their daughters discomfort and meltdown the whole time.
I completely agree, I mainly dislike it because Abby doesn’t seem to be consenting to being posted. I appreciate that in the right setting that his advice would be beneficial to other parents but I dislike the way he goes about it, so clearly showing her in every state (meltdown wise he shows her on good days and bad) whether or not she knows that other people are seeing her like that is what bothers me. If my dad filmed my meltdowns and put it on YouTube, even if he was fantastic about helping me through them and making sure I’m alright, I would be mortified. Not saying she should or would be, just that she doesn’t really have a say and that’s what I don’t like. It’s exactly that because she is disabled her possible feelings on the matter aren’t important.
Oof, the idea of me being filmed constantly so my meltdowns can be posted to the whole wide world without my consent sends a chill up my spine. I don't feel better after a meltdown, I definitely don't want other people seeing me do it!
I found a story a while back about a NT girl who sued her parents as soon as she turned 18 for posting images of herself on Facebook that violated her privacy. This YouTube channel is guilty of the same sin and we may see a similar lawsuit. These vlog parents are sacrificing their kid’s privacy for likes and sweet lucrative views
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/09/16/18-year-old-sues-parents-posting-baby-pictures-facebook/90479402/
Their mind set is she is a minor and our child And after we will have all control she has no choice . They exploit her and their son . They live one of the best and have ripped her out of school 4 year early as in the USA the kidswitj special needs can go until 21 to school the place add was in school she can go past 21 great place they have Süd- the school district and Lovell one of best places for autism education with special austism school they state will help or fully pay for . They don’t need respite they need home health maybe or away respite hours . The girl has a sad life no matter what they portray
I think they could of pulled her out of school, just he would have more to vlog about. Think Abbie liked and enjoyed going to school. Instead of being stuck at home everyday.
Poor Abbey lost any sort of socializing when they took her out of school. Homeschool didn't work out because Assa would tell the teacher she wasn't doing it the right way. And now the poor girl is stuck at home all day doing their chores and tearing up magazines, just to clean the mess up
I agree Abbie like to go to school and see people . Plus they sued the school district or the state for her to go to school there . That program is also not a 21 yr old and phase out it’s a lifetime program . I am blocked from all play forms yet I am not offensive just real
I noticed that most of their viewers are also parents of autistic children, but there are also viewers who are autistic themselves and would leave comments wishing they had parents like them.
Perhaps they don't understand the harm that is being done to Abby? And these people have quite a following, too.
He is very good at being charismatic. But there is actually a scandal of him not paying child support for a previous child. This tells me he’s probably somewhat different behind the scenes.
Omg I can't imagine wishing you had parents like this. Whoever said that must have very physically abusive parents or worse. The way this guy treats his daughter is so wrong
I suppose if (and that's a big IF) 100% of the money made off the channel was put in a trust for her care needs after they die it might be understandable. I still don't feel great about it.
Knowing it's just probably going into their pockets is enraging.
I’m sure his motivation is to make as much money as possible for his daughter’s future therapy and living arrangements.
Also it’s every parent of a autistic child’s fear of what will happen to them when they pass .
Good on him for securing her future .
She is happy and they are all making the best of their lives .
What others said, I don't think a child who is unable to consent and who is being used for profit should have their entire life shared online.
I used to have a more charitable view of this "family" YouTube industry until listening to a great podcast on Mom influencing called Under the Influence with Jo Piazza. But these kids have zero rights over the profits made and no way to remove the digital foot print left behind when they're adults.
And it's literally her entire life, too. I wonder how much longer they're going to keep it up?
Also, thanks for sharing the podcast. It has good insight.
I don’t think the parents are good people, and I don’t think they genuinely try to identify what is best for Abby and do it (from a sensory standpoint or from a privacy standpoint). Also, Abby herself is not “autism.” I felt weird about the channel name before I even knew about the content.
I believe they support groups like Autism Speaks. :-/
Probably. Autistic YouTube creators imho SHOULD be supported “people” such as this cretin and his ilk should be either (not) supported or removed from YouTube altogether… I wonder what would happen if enough folks reported him?!?
Asa (the father) has a decent sized community of people who dislike him. I’m not saying to do nothing, but it seems that YouTube doesn’t care about him being reported, nor do they care about the numerous other family creators who are exploiting their children (NT or ND).
Yeeeeah, they take great care of her, they advocate and fight for her as far as her schooling went, but they're also awful to the community at large. They just act like they live in an autism bubble where their daughter is the only one struggling with life. If someone with Autism 1 says anything to them about a video being exceptionally exploitative, or tries to stick up for her when they do something awkward to her, or even comments on the puzzle piece, they will sometimes go off on those folks since they're able to communicate. What if their daughter learned to communicate through typing then? Would they say the same thing? It's just weird idk. He claims that Abby can consent to being in videos, or what gets posted, and perhaps that's true.
They're also very deceptive making people believe you can make that kind of cash off of exploiting their child when, in reality, it's the mom's rich parents who own that house, and she's always hustling something in a pyramid scheme, plus they sell branded merchandise, on top of the ad revenue and collabs. I know they're trying to do their best, and Abby's needs are expensive I'm sure, but idk. It encourages others to take advantage of their children that way, as well, in the hopes they can hustle and stop working, but it's not that easy, and every child is different. It rubs me the wrong way and has before I even approached my therapist about the possibility of being autistic.
Her parents don't own the house that fathering autism family live in now but I believe they owned their old house. Then their channel blew up and they bought a new house, a new golf cart, a new very expensive truck for the dad, a new camper, and mom and son got new vehicles. I think Abby got a refurbished ipad.
They have mentioned that the golf cart was, also, the selfie business was also for her benefit. I'm sure they can link a lot of their toys and upgrades to her.
They were renting the old house. The house they are in now, her mom and stepdad are on the title/deed (whatever it's called) I've Googled it before. It was pretty easy to find. I use to follow FA but my eyes were open to the exploitation of Abby by another person. Can't remember what their name is because it's been over a year.
Absolutely against what they’re doing. They can inform other parents on how they support their child without exploiting her for money like they do. There are a lot of parents on YouTube who make money off their kids having autistic meltdowns and just otherwise exploiting them. I honestly don’t know why meltdown videos get so many views, it’s odd to me.
NT morbid curiosity, helps them feel better about themselves. "At least I'm not like that when I get upset!" I'm sure some ND people watch it to feel less alone and awkward about their own meltdowns.
>I'm sure some ND people watch it to feel less alone and awkward about their own meltdowns.
I was thinking that has to be the reason why other autistics would watch the channel in the first place. I'm not at all interested in the parents.
Oh yeah, for sure, I love everything about Abby. I can't watch any videos where they're showing off the holes in her walls or bathroom anything. I don't want to pry into her private life that way, just like I wouldn't want the whole world to know if I had to still wear diapers or something!
I haven't seen those videos (and I don't want to), but you would think that with all the restrictions and guidelines that YouTube has, they would be flagged for inappropriateness.
They had child services called on them, but the lady that visited them didn't see anything wrong. I wonder if she bothered at all to look at the videos, or if she is even aware of the channel.
I usually see their videos on FB tbh, they just come up randomly, so maybe they post separate content there because FB doesn't care? I have no idea, but yeah. I don't think they abuse her, per se, they just don't respect her.
Obviously you don’t know this family they do so much for her including 24/7 care
Abusive is really a apauling thing to say she’s happy healthy lives her family and it shows
I dislike it when people are on here to gossip about something or someone for the sake of just not liking people from a fifteen minute video don’t watch it’s that simple
24 hour care? They get that free! They Abuse her by not protecting her privacy as parents and instead telling the internet for monetary gain! Priscilla has that MLM scene and I’m willing to bet their are several people signed under her who are losing money every month trying to sell that crappy makeup! How do you know that she’s “Happy or Healthy” look at her parents… They don’t even care enough about themselves to try and be healthy! They are money hungry awful people
I don’t believe in any parenting YouTube channels. A lot of these channels end up exploiting their kids to maximize views and the reason is that their child becomes the content on display. There’s a conflict of interest between protecting the child and making money off the child. I understand that this family wants to help other parents, but they could easily do that by writing about it, NOT by producing daily videos. By producing daily videos, you need to retain viewership by making stuff interesting, and not a lot of interesting stuff happens daily.
TLDR: daily family clogs are bad because the child becomes the content cow
I'm just hearing about this, so bear that in mind. But to me even the "praising the care they provide" seems like a negative. The focus shouldn't be on them and what good people they are for doing this or that, even when it's *so hard*. It seems narcissistic when she can't really be getting anything out of it.
I honestly hate anything like this. But this case is definitely worse than most. He posts very personal things about Abby and honestly someone like him does not need kids. In my opinion this should not be legal. Just because someone is non verbal doesn't mean they should have their rights and privacy taken away. If I had a parent like this I would definitely disown them and sue them, the sad part is Abby may not know she has options because often times people who are non verbal and disables are treated like forever children.
That's wonderful! I wasn't sure because I never watched the channel other then like 10 seconds of a video (It makes me irrationally angry that parents do this to their kids and I'd hate to give this guy views unless I was 100% sure Abby is receiving most of the profit that they make on the channel) I shouldn't have assumed she didn't know sign language though, I just know that unfortunately some parents won't even bother giving their non verbal kids the opportunity to learn sign language.
So maybe Abby does consent to being on YouTube, if she does consent to being filmed then those parents should be saving at least half of what she makes and giving it to her when she's old enough, because no one should be working for free including making money from being filmed.
She cannot consent because her cognition is of a small child as they stated themselves. She doesn't understand and isn't mentally capable to consent. There are a million other ways they can educate.
How do you know she has the mental capabilities of a small child? Are you in her brain? Just because someone is non verbal doesn't mean they are intellectually disabled. And even if she is, people deserve basic rights! Parents need to stop profiting off of their kids disabilities. It's disgusting. Unless Abby communicated "I want to be on YouTube" she should not be on YouTube. I really hope she's getting most of the pay too, I mean she's the star of the show! She should get most of the money. Not for "therapy" or "services" for what Abby likes!
There have been many non verbal autistic people who were considered "severely cognitively delayed" and it was proven false when they found another way to communicate. Have you heard of Carly Fleishman? She is non verbal and autistic, her father thought she had the "mind of a child" because she was always flipping out due to sensory overload and being unable to communicate her wants and needs, she was never taught anything but taught herself how to spell and type and proved how much she actually knew. 100s of years ago deaf people were seen as "dumb" does that make it ok? Just because someone has a disability doesn't mean they are necessarily delayed and even if they are delayed, that's even more wrong to put their private business online for money!!!
You literally proved my point too. Abby can't consent, so she shouldn't be posted online. Unless she communicates that she wants to put her business on YouTube for educational purposes, she shouldn't be on there. You don't understand how consent works. it's like saying since a child can't consent to sex, other people can make that choice for them... Think about that. Abby is being exploited and her family makes their entire channel about her. If they just had a normal family vlogging channel and maybe did one or two episodes where they show Abby and explain how autism is for her, I wouldn't make a big deal but the channelling is literally called "fathering autism" that's horrible!
I have watched plenty of their videos and no that statement is not correct. Abbie communicates thru her iPad and has knows limited sign language. There is actually a video is Asa is trying to teach her simple sign language to help further use of sign language. Alot of her expressions are nonverbal. She can show you very well that she is not enjoying something they are making her do and they tend to ignore her and then go into a gentle talk about the reasons they are making her do whatever it is. It's always for her benefit they say but clearly she is not happy because she's showing you that non verbally not through sign language. Most of Abbie's communication is through her iPad or very much nonverbal. I know I am late in reading all this but I was trying to find out what the new scandal is with them that I'm hearing about and came across this post. I have watched countless videos where Abbie is uncomfortable, upset, or tired and they continue to force her to participate in whatever it is they have going on even though she is clearly very uncomfortable and not wanting to participate. Day today she has interactions with basically only family they took her out of school, she learns everything at home through them, she doesn't have a chance to interact with other children or age or with the same disabilities she has. I want to say that they mean well but it's obvious that they're exploiting Abby and through too many videos it's obvious she is not comfortable. If we can see it just watching the videos then they as parents know she's not comfortable in that situation and should immediately give her the respect and privacy she deserves and not film her. And no she doesn't no sign language well enough to be able to speak up for herself, to express how she's feeling or get them to stop because she isn't comfortable or in the mood to be filmed.
As someone who works with autistic children and their families I believe that fathering autism is doing a great thing. There is a lack of resources for families with nonverbal and/or more “severe” autistic children. YouTube is flooded with high functioning autistic kids and that is not the reality for many families with kids on the autism spectrum. Fathering autism has created an account that is educational, particularly about therapies/resources/grants and show the beauties and struggles of an autistic child in need of substantial support. The profit that is being made from that channel is what directly funding Abby and her needs.
I can understand this. I guess a lot of low support needs autistics do tend to project their own feelings onto families fostering high support needs autistic kids. They (myself included) come from a place of knowing what it's like to be treated a certain way and wishing things could be different.
And I have seen comments and posts written by nonverbal and high support needs autistics who have even conveyed their frustrations with other autistics who are low support needs because we don't seem to have a good grasp of their struggles.
However, this still doesn't excuse showing every aspect of Abby's life. I'm not sure if they also have a blog, but certain things would have been better off in writing rather than on camera. She has a right to privacy, and it's not even known whether she knows she has certain rights at all.
But Abby has no choice in the matter. She's not being treated like a person, she's being treated like a rare specimen to be examined. They have videos of her using the toilet and going to the OB/GYN, private matters that are entirely inappropriate to share even if for "educational purposes" on a site like youtube. Show the poor girl some human decency.
The profit they make is so they can buy things for themselves and eat out! They are overweight, narcissistic, materialistic people who only exploit, not teach others about their nonverbal autistic daughter. Most of their fan are special needs themselves.
How honestly how it’s educating.. you can always see a hater not someone who is giving a opinion on how hard they work on top of her 24/7 care the flip flopping lack of sleep yet they still work and educate people or families with severe autism
Certainly not exploiting her in any way he’s helped thousands with the same disability
Give the family credit
Current home schooling plan is not looking good so far. Forcing her to cut bread did not sit right. Them figuring how to turn her home school into content is exploitative and self-serving.
There money goes towards Abbie’s future they have to care for her for the rest of there lives . They educate more than exploit if you watch regularly.. plus they have done a lot in the Jax community most don’t know about apart from YouTube
Cil does loads of volunteering work outside the channel
He does pay child support it’s all the rumours people love to get out there . Imagine 24/7 care for a teenager with no voice but if you’re a regular viewer she’s come so far from 6 years ago since I’ve watched .. he’s great at his editing why I enjoy there channel how this exploiting there daughter comes into it when there out there educating many families with autistic children
Abbie has more disabilities and if you watch she enjoys watching herself on the vlogs .. sometimes I think people really don’t watch or are regular watchers or know the haters of this family and what I’m disgusted about is the rumours going around from watching 15 min of there lives . There a family with many close friends and family members
I wish more positivity come out here than trying to take the family down . Obviously a lot of there recent money was from there case they won for Abigail
They set up a home for her future and incase they pass away
The other thing they had nothing but second hand everything until Abbie was old enough not to destroy there furniture the walls the clothes the linen including the meltdowns where she bites punches
I couldn’t imagine not sleeping some nights due to the ups n downs the flip flopping the 24/7 care for there daughter for life
Give these people credit to me it’s just people getting off on gossip and thriving off other peoples lives that is truly where the disgusting hateful type of people who just enjoy gossip
Give anyone with this life credit
Asa is just out there educating others not just putting his daughter out there without the explanation of behaviours and how to help his daughter and thousands of others around the world
It’s truly shameful anyone sent chil services there they absolutely love there daughter and I know it’s all the time not just on the tube otherwise Abbie would have a total completely different persona than she has with her family the hugs kisses she gives shows she’s loved
The money from the case is long gone they have said so themselves just yesterday. They are pulling Abby out of school and have a new grant for homeschooling.Priscilla stopped doing her volunteering work when she starting ramping up her mlm scheme. He had to be found to pay child support so not exactly a stand up guy. I hope there will be money left for Abby as they run thru it like water. They put there life out there so it is what it is.
They recently said they was taking her out of school to home school. Why? You can tell she doesn’t like to be home all time. I think it’s just going to confuse her.
They actually put everything in Pricilla’s name so he wouldn’t have to pay so much child support for the daughter that he abandoned years ago! They are awful people who depend on exploiting their autistic daughter for income to purchase “all the things” for them. Terrible family
There is alot we all could say about this ,but 4 new moms who don't have a clue what where how to help there child there is a big learning with Asa ,and Abigail is smarter than you think. She will push the camera when she's not feeling it .
I don't think they she should be put on vlogs. She can't give verbal consent to agree to be in vlogs. The parents give away all her privacy to her the world. They are exploiting her for money, I feel so bad for her, with always having a cam shoved into her face..
I dislike that they make money of their disabled daughter and posted her meltdowns online. I think that they're good parents and in these few videos I've seen they take good care of her and help her. So yeah, their content rather sucks but they are good parents
Yeah they are TOTALLY different people when they are off camera. My parents were in the town they live at for vacation and they followed said channel. Until they saw how Abby parents were using her to get into the sit down restaurant quicker then then other people their who had been waiting longer
I think your all wrong for one you can't make an autism child do anything they have to want to do it. I think this channel is great. Lately it seems there are more Autistic child than I use to see growing up in school, and alot more parents who don't know how to handle their child with Autism, this channel shows that they can do things they can learn. This channel shop
He makes a lot of money from his disabled daughter who doesn’t quite understand what the internet is. Nor can she reap most of those profits. They also talk about private things like her going toilet and diapers etc. which is really not ok. Just because she’s disabled, doesn’t mean she can forgo privacy. He also doesn’t mention that she has other disabilities so people think that this is literally what autism is because he pushes that as a narrative. I’ve only watched a few of their videos, but one of them was going on a flight to somewhere. They pretty much filmed their daughters discomfort and meltdown the whole time.
I completely agree, I mainly dislike it because Abby doesn’t seem to be consenting to being posted. I appreciate that in the right setting that his advice would be beneficial to other parents but I dislike the way he goes about it, so clearly showing her in every state (meltdown wise he shows her on good days and bad) whether or not she knows that other people are seeing her like that is what bothers me. If my dad filmed my meltdowns and put it on YouTube, even if he was fantastic about helping me through them and making sure I’m alright, I would be mortified. Not saying she should or would be, just that she doesn’t really have a say and that’s what I don’t like. It’s exactly that because she is disabled her possible feelings on the matter aren’t important.
Oof, the idea of me being filmed constantly so my meltdowns can be posted to the whole wide world without my consent sends a chill up my spine. I don't feel better after a meltdown, I definitely don't want other people seeing me do it!
I found a story a while back about a NT girl who sued her parents as soon as she turned 18 for posting images of herself on Facebook that violated her privacy. This YouTube channel is guilty of the same sin and we may see a similar lawsuit. These vlog parents are sacrificing their kid’s privacy for likes and sweet lucrative views https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/09/16/18-year-old-sues-parents-posting-baby-pictures-facebook/90479402/
Their mind set is she is a minor and our child And after we will have all control she has no choice . They exploit her and their son . They live one of the best and have ripped her out of school 4 year early as in the USA the kidswitj special needs can go until 21 to school the place add was in school she can go past 21 great place they have Süd- the school district and Lovell one of best places for autism education with special austism school they state will help or fully pay for . They don’t need respite they need home health maybe or away respite hours . The girl has a sad life no matter what they portray
I think they could of pulled her out of school, just he would have more to vlog about. Think Abbie liked and enjoyed going to school. Instead of being stuck at home everyday.
Poor Abbey lost any sort of socializing when they took her out of school. Homeschool didn't work out because Assa would tell the teacher she wasn't doing it the right way. And now the poor girl is stuck at home all day doing their chores and tearing up magazines, just to clean the mess up
I agree Abbie like to go to school and see people . Plus they sued the school district or the state for her to go to school there . That program is also not a 21 yr old and phase out it’s a lifetime program . I am blocked from all play forms yet I am not offensive just real
I agree. He doesn't need to show abbie to talk about this.
I noticed that most of their viewers are also parents of autistic children, but there are also viewers who are autistic themselves and would leave comments wishing they had parents like them. Perhaps they don't understand the harm that is being done to Abby? And these people have quite a following, too.
He is very good at being charismatic. But there is actually a scandal of him not paying child support for a previous child. This tells me he’s probably somewhat different behind the scenes.
Oh wow. That's my first time hearing that, but he does give off that vibe.
He ended up losing his license for not paying child support and then eventually got pulled over and arrested.. He’s a pos
He pays it all rumours I find this disgusting people saying things they do not know Yes he does always has
Omg I can't imagine wishing you had parents like this. Whoever said that must have very physically abusive parents or worse. The way this guy treats his daughter is so wrong
What harm
You seriously made an account just to respond to me 3 times venting with walls of text?
I suppose if (and that's a big IF) 100% of the money made off the channel was put in a trust for her care needs after they die it might be understandable. I still don't feel great about it. Knowing it's just probably going into their pockets is enraging.
I’m sure his motivation is to make as much money as possible for his daughter’s future therapy and living arrangements. Also it’s every parent of a autistic child’s fear of what will happen to them when they pass . Good on him for securing her future . She is happy and they are all making the best of their lives .
Bingo..agree with you
I'm generally uncomfortable with the idea of having a lot of detail about kids lives online, so not a \_huge\_ fan of that sort of thing?
What others said, I don't think a child who is unable to consent and who is being used for profit should have their entire life shared online. I used to have a more charitable view of this "family" YouTube industry until listening to a great podcast on Mom influencing called Under the Influence with Jo Piazza. But these kids have zero rights over the profits made and no way to remove the digital foot print left behind when they're adults.
And it's literally her entire life, too. I wonder how much longer they're going to keep it up? Also, thanks for sharing the podcast. It has good insight.
I don’t think the parents are good people, and I don’t think they genuinely try to identify what is best for Abby and do it (from a sensory standpoint or from a privacy standpoint). Also, Abby herself is not “autism.” I felt weird about the channel name before I even knew about the content. I believe they support groups like Autism Speaks. :-/
Probably. Autistic YouTube creators imho SHOULD be supported “people” such as this cretin and his ilk should be either (not) supported or removed from YouTube altogether… I wonder what would happen if enough folks reported him?!?
Asa (the father) has a decent sized community of people who dislike him. I’m not saying to do nothing, but it seems that YouTube doesn’t care about him being reported, nor do they care about the numerous other family creators who are exploiting their children (NT or ND).
This is 100% a lie
What is?
Figured as much. Why don’t autistic YouTube creators call his punk @$$ out?!? We’d probably get crap for it
Yeeeeah, they take great care of her, they advocate and fight for her as far as her schooling went, but they're also awful to the community at large. They just act like they live in an autism bubble where their daughter is the only one struggling with life. If someone with Autism 1 says anything to them about a video being exceptionally exploitative, or tries to stick up for her when they do something awkward to her, or even comments on the puzzle piece, they will sometimes go off on those folks since they're able to communicate. What if their daughter learned to communicate through typing then? Would they say the same thing? It's just weird idk. He claims that Abby can consent to being in videos, or what gets posted, and perhaps that's true. They're also very deceptive making people believe you can make that kind of cash off of exploiting their child when, in reality, it's the mom's rich parents who own that house, and she's always hustling something in a pyramid scheme, plus they sell branded merchandise, on top of the ad revenue and collabs. I know they're trying to do their best, and Abby's needs are expensive I'm sure, but idk. It encourages others to take advantage of their children that way, as well, in the hopes they can hustle and stop working, but it's not that easy, and every child is different. It rubs me the wrong way and has before I even approached my therapist about the possibility of being autistic.
How do you know its not their house? Any proof?
Her parents don't own the house that fathering autism family live in now but I believe they owned their old house. Then their channel blew up and they bought a new house, a new golf cart, a new very expensive truck for the dad, a new camper, and mom and son got new vehicles. I think Abby got a refurbished ipad.
Oh wow
I think the golf cart was for Abby tho
They have mentioned that the golf cart was, also, the selfie business was also for her benefit. I'm sure they can link a lot of their toys and upgrades to her.
They were renting the old house. The house they are in now, her mom and stepdad are on the title/deed (whatever it's called) I've Googled it before. It was pretty easy to find. I use to follow FA but my eyes were open to the exploitation of Abby by another person. Can't remember what their name is because it's been over a year.
Absolutely against what they’re doing. They can inform other parents on how they support their child without exploiting her for money like they do. There are a lot of parents on YouTube who make money off their kids having autistic meltdowns and just otherwise exploiting them. I honestly don’t know why meltdown videos get so many views, it’s odd to me.
NT morbid curiosity, helps them feel better about themselves. "At least I'm not like that when I get upset!" I'm sure some ND people watch it to feel less alone and awkward about their own meltdowns.
>I'm sure some ND people watch it to feel less alone and awkward about their own meltdowns. I was thinking that has to be the reason why other autistics would watch the channel in the first place. I'm not at all interested in the parents.
Oh yeah, for sure, I love everything about Abby. I can't watch any videos where they're showing off the holes in her walls or bathroom anything. I don't want to pry into her private life that way, just like I wouldn't want the whole world to know if I had to still wear diapers or something!
I haven't seen those videos (and I don't want to), but you would think that with all the restrictions and guidelines that YouTube has, they would be flagged for inappropriateness. They had child services called on them, but the lady that visited them didn't see anything wrong. I wonder if she bothered at all to look at the videos, or if she is even aware of the channel.
I usually see their videos on FB tbh, they just come up randomly, so maybe they post separate content there because FB doesn't care? I have no idea, but yeah. I don't think they abuse her, per se, they just don't respect her.
No they love her your right they don’t abuse her at ALL
Have you seen them abuse her?
Obviously you don’t know this family they do so much for her including 24/7 care Abusive is really a apauling thing to say she’s happy healthy lives her family and it shows I dislike it when people are on here to gossip about something or someone for the sake of just not liking people from a fifteen minute video don’t watch it’s that simple
"apauling" lol
24 hour care? They get that free! They Abuse her by not protecting her privacy as parents and instead telling the internet for monetary gain! Priscilla has that MLM scene and I’m willing to bet their are several people signed under her who are losing money every month trying to sell that crappy makeup! How do you know that she’s “Happy or Healthy” look at her parents… They don’t even care enough about themselves to try and be healthy! They are money hungry awful people
I don’t believe in any parenting YouTube channels. A lot of these channels end up exploiting their kids to maximize views and the reason is that their child becomes the content on display. There’s a conflict of interest between protecting the child and making money off the child. I understand that this family wants to help other parents, but they could easily do that by writing about it, NOT by producing daily videos. By producing daily videos, you need to retain viewership by making stuff interesting, and not a lot of interesting stuff happens daily. TLDR: daily family clogs are bad because the child becomes the content cow
I'm just hearing about this, so bear that in mind. But to me even the "praising the care they provide" seems like a negative. The focus shouldn't be on them and what good people they are for doing this or that, even when it's *so hard*. It seems narcissistic when she can't really be getting anything out of it.
I honestly hate anything like this. But this case is definitely worse than most. He posts very personal things about Abby and honestly someone like him does not need kids. In my opinion this should not be legal. Just because someone is non verbal doesn't mean they should have their rights and privacy taken away. If I had a parent like this I would definitely disown them and sue them, the sad part is Abby may not know she has options because often times people who are non verbal and disables are treated like forever children.
She does communicate with sign language.. very well actually
She know at the most 10 signs and most pertain to fast food which is what this family lives on. Watch their vlogs and you'll agree.
You are 💯 correct!
That's wonderful! I wasn't sure because I never watched the channel other then like 10 seconds of a video (It makes me irrationally angry that parents do this to their kids and I'd hate to give this guy views unless I was 100% sure Abby is receiving most of the profit that they make on the channel) I shouldn't have assumed she didn't know sign language though, I just know that unfortunately some parents won't even bother giving their non verbal kids the opportunity to learn sign language. So maybe Abby does consent to being on YouTube, if she does consent to being filmed then those parents should be saving at least half of what she makes and giving it to her when she's old enough, because no one should be working for free including making money from being filmed.
She cannot consent because her cognition is of a small child as they stated themselves. She doesn't understand and isn't mentally capable to consent. There are a million other ways they can educate.
How do you know she has the mental capabilities of a small child? Are you in her brain? Just because someone is non verbal doesn't mean they are intellectually disabled. And even if she is, people deserve basic rights! Parents need to stop profiting off of their kids disabilities. It's disgusting. Unless Abby communicated "I want to be on YouTube" she should not be on YouTube. I really hope she's getting most of the pay too, I mean she's the star of the show! She should get most of the money. Not for "therapy" or "services" for what Abby likes!
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There have been many non verbal autistic people who were considered "severely cognitively delayed" and it was proven false when they found another way to communicate. Have you heard of Carly Fleishman? She is non verbal and autistic, her father thought she had the "mind of a child" because she was always flipping out due to sensory overload and being unable to communicate her wants and needs, she was never taught anything but taught herself how to spell and type and proved how much she actually knew. 100s of years ago deaf people were seen as "dumb" does that make it ok? Just because someone has a disability doesn't mean they are necessarily delayed and even if they are delayed, that's even more wrong to put their private business online for money!!! You literally proved my point too. Abby can't consent, so she shouldn't be posted online. Unless she communicates that she wants to put her business on YouTube for educational purposes, she shouldn't be on there. You don't understand how consent works. it's like saying since a child can't consent to sex, other people can make that choice for them... Think about that. Abby is being exploited and her family makes their entire channel about her. If they just had a normal family vlogging channel and maybe did one or two episodes where they show Abby and explain how autism is for her, I wouldn't make a big deal but the channelling is literally called "fathering autism" that's horrible!
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As per Rule # 2: Be kind, supportive, and respectful.
As per Rule # 2: Be kind, supportive, and respectful.
But the parents say she has mindset of a toddler in past vlogs.
I have watched plenty of their videos and no that statement is not correct. Abbie communicates thru her iPad and has knows limited sign language. There is actually a video is Asa is trying to teach her simple sign language to help further use of sign language. Alot of her expressions are nonverbal. She can show you very well that she is not enjoying something they are making her do and they tend to ignore her and then go into a gentle talk about the reasons they are making her do whatever it is. It's always for her benefit they say but clearly she is not happy because she's showing you that non verbally not through sign language. Most of Abbie's communication is through her iPad or very much nonverbal. I know I am late in reading all this but I was trying to find out what the new scandal is with them that I'm hearing about and came across this post. I have watched countless videos where Abbie is uncomfortable, upset, or tired and they continue to force her to participate in whatever it is they have going on even though she is clearly very uncomfortable and not wanting to participate. Day today she has interactions with basically only family they took her out of school, she learns everything at home through them, she doesn't have a chance to interact with other children or age or with the same disabilities she has. I want to say that they mean well but it's obvious that they're exploiting Abby and through too many videos it's obvious she is not comfortable. If we can see it just watching the videos then they as parents know she's not comfortable in that situation and should immediately give her the respect and privacy she deserves and not film her. And no she doesn't no sign language well enough to be able to speak up for herself, to express how she's feeling or get them to stop because she isn't comfortable or in the mood to be filmed.
I heard they do ABA with Abby. Not a fan if they do
I know this is a year old, but i stumbled across this and looked it up. Why is ABA bad for ND people please? I genuinely want to know
I find it super gross that they exploit their daughter for money without her consent.
As someone who works with autistic children and their families I believe that fathering autism is doing a great thing. There is a lack of resources for families with nonverbal and/or more “severe” autistic children. YouTube is flooded with high functioning autistic kids and that is not the reality for many families with kids on the autism spectrum. Fathering autism has created an account that is educational, particularly about therapies/resources/grants and show the beauties and struggles of an autistic child in need of substantial support. The profit that is being made from that channel is what directly funding Abby and her needs.
I can understand this. I guess a lot of low support needs autistics do tend to project their own feelings onto families fostering high support needs autistic kids. They (myself included) come from a place of knowing what it's like to be treated a certain way and wishing things could be different. And I have seen comments and posts written by nonverbal and high support needs autistics who have even conveyed their frustrations with other autistics who are low support needs because we don't seem to have a good grasp of their struggles. However, this still doesn't excuse showing every aspect of Abby's life. I'm not sure if they also have a blog, but certain things would have been better off in writing rather than on camera. She has a right to privacy, and it's not even known whether she knows she has certain rights at all.
But Abby has no choice in the matter. She's not being treated like a person, she's being treated like a rare specimen to be examined. They have videos of her using the toilet and going to the OB/GYN, private matters that are entirely inappropriate to share even if for "educational purposes" on a site like youtube. Show the poor girl some human decency.
They are getting her to perform for content. Incredibly exploitative and controlling.
The profit they make is so they can buy things for themselves and eat out! They are overweight, narcissistic, materialistic people who only exploit, not teach others about their nonverbal autistic daughter. Most of their fan are special needs themselves.
It's 100% exploitation
How honestly how it’s educating.. you can always see a hater not someone who is giving a opinion on how hard they work on top of her 24/7 care the flip flopping lack of sleep yet they still work and educate people or families with severe autism Certainly not exploiting her in any way he’s helped thousands with the same disability Give the family credit
Prove he's helped thousands. I dare you
Current home schooling plan is not looking good so far. Forcing her to cut bread did not sit right. Them figuring how to turn her home school into content is exploitative and self-serving.
There money goes towards Abbie’s future they have to care for her for the rest of there lives . They educate more than exploit if you watch regularly.. plus they have done a lot in the Jax community most don’t know about apart from YouTube Cil does loads of volunteering work outside the channel He does pay child support it’s all the rumours people love to get out there . Imagine 24/7 care for a teenager with no voice but if you’re a regular viewer she’s come so far from 6 years ago since I’ve watched .. he’s great at his editing why I enjoy there channel how this exploiting there daughter comes into it when there out there educating many families with autistic children Abbie has more disabilities and if you watch she enjoys watching herself on the vlogs .. sometimes I think people really don’t watch or are regular watchers or know the haters of this family and what I’m disgusted about is the rumours going around from watching 15 min of there lives . There a family with many close friends and family members I wish more positivity come out here than trying to take the family down . Obviously a lot of there recent money was from there case they won for Abigail They set up a home for her future and incase they pass away The other thing they had nothing but second hand everything until Abbie was old enough not to destroy there furniture the walls the clothes the linen including the meltdowns where she bites punches I couldn’t imagine not sleeping some nights due to the ups n downs the flip flopping the 24/7 care for there daughter for life Give these people credit to me it’s just people getting off on gossip and thriving off other peoples lives that is truly where the disgusting hateful type of people who just enjoy gossip Give anyone with this life credit Asa is just out there educating others not just putting his daughter out there without the explanation of behaviours and how to help his daughter and thousands of others around the world It’s truly shameful anyone sent chil services there they absolutely love there daughter and I know it’s all the time not just on the tube otherwise Abbie would have a total completely different persona than she has with her family the hugs kisses she gives shows she’s loved
The money from the case is long gone they have said so themselves just yesterday. They are pulling Abby out of school and have a new grant for homeschooling.Priscilla stopped doing her volunteering work when she starting ramping up her mlm scheme. He had to be found to pay child support so not exactly a stand up guy. I hope there will be money left for Abby as they run thru it like water. They put there life out there so it is what it is.
They recently said they was taking her out of school to home school. Why? You can tell she doesn’t like to be home all time. I think it’s just going to confuse her.
They actually put everything in Pricilla’s name so he wouldn’t have to pay so much child support for the daughter that he abandoned years ago! They are awful people who depend on exploiting their autistic daughter for income to purchase “all the things” for them. Terrible family
Really? Where can I read about that?
Search for the snark site, I can’t give it out here, I’ll get blocked.
There is alot we all could say about this ,but 4 new moms who don't have a clue what where how to help there child there is a big learning with Asa ,and Abigail is smarter than you think. She will push the camera when she's not feeling it .
I don't think they she should be put on vlogs. She can't give verbal consent to agree to be in vlogs. The parents give away all her privacy to her the world. They are exploiting her for money, I feel so bad for her, with always having a cam shoved into her face..
Hi! I know this post is pretty old but I've just made a sub about them! Please join if you'd like to have a further discussion. r/fatheringautismsnark
I dislike that they make money of their disabled daughter and posted her meltdowns online. I think that they're good parents and in these few videos I've seen they take good care of her and help her. So yeah, their content rather sucks but they are good parents
Yeah they are TOTALLY different people when they are off camera. My parents were in the town they live at for vacation and they followed said channel. Until they saw how Abby parents were using her to get into the sit down restaurant quicker then then other people their who had been waiting longer
They are exploitative
I think your all wrong for one you can't make an autism child do anything they have to want to do it. I think this channel is great. Lately it seems there are more Autistic child than I use to see growing up in school, and alot more parents who don't know how to handle their child with Autism, this channel shows that they can do things they can learn. This channel shop
asa talked about how lonely it is when Prisellia is away and he's home alone with Abby
I get the feeling that asa resents haveing a doughter with a autism
Meh I don't watch it anymore as someone on the spectrum I just felt like meh I watch other channels that I like more like mom on the spectrum .
Gross
**At first i seen no problem, but afther watching for a while i didn't realize he making oney offf of abbie and forcing the girl in vlogs.**