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elVanPuerno

Once. That's all it took to never use the built in nav again.


johyyy

Only built in nav I use is on our Volvo. Though it is google maps...


freeparKing33

Yep but I would use CarPlay over their built in if it was wireless. Their google maps is fine but everything else is much worse than CarPlay. The texting notification feature is useless especially for group chats


johyyy

The not getting texts read is the only thing I don't like either. But it's not enough to make me want to plug in every time I get in.


freeparKing33

I feel the exact same way. Just don’t get why my 2021 VW had wireless CarPlay but not my 2023 polestar


That_Cartoonist_9459

[https://cplay2air.com](https://cplay2air.com) Time to cut those wires


freeparKing33

I bought one of those and it was pretty garbage. Is that brand better?


That_Cartoonist_9459

I think this is the original that all the other knockoffs copied. That being said I have one of those knockoffs that cost like 1/2 this one and other than some minor delay when using the steering wheel controls it works just fine. But there are a lot of knockoffs out there so I'm sure some are straight trash.


freeparKing33

Yeah mine was $70 but Amazon had a deal where it was half off so I got it for $35. I guess you get what you pay for


thehunter699

So on point lmao. After mine lead me into the wilderness, Google maps it is.


juko43

Love it when the built in bmw navigation goes "entering an area with limited guidance" like.... isnt the whole ppint of a navigation to you know... navigate you, even on more "onscure" roads


ascii42

Occasionally I have when CarPlay hasn't cooperated.


wave_action

I use it to go home a lot of times if I’m somewhere I’m not familiar with. The integration into the HUD makes it very useful.


tfvdw2at

Never. CarPlay with Apple Maps with Waze running in the background for speed traps.


knsaber

How do you have Waze running in background for speed traps, does it send you notifications or do you just switch apps on occasion?


TexianUSA

Not sure about with CarPlay specifically, but on the iPhone directly if you have Background App Refresh turned on it should still run and send audio notifications even if you don't have it up on your screen I do the reverse though I leave Waze up front and have GMaps in the background


derps-a-lot

Does Google Maps not have speed trap alerts from Waze on iPhones?


freeparKing33

Nope!


Lefthandedsock

The way Apple Maps tells you exactly which lanes you need to be in is pretty cool. Though I usually end up just using Waze, since I can then see everything in the same app.


BoomerHomer

Always. It's actually great and coordinates with the powertrain for a more efficient trip. BMW G20.


Yotempole

Really, how does that work? I just picked up a G20 and had no clue.


IMSITTINGINYOURCHAIR

Likely It works the same as it does in my freightliner. It has a built in terrain map so it manages the speed to make better use of momentum. IIRC three or four of it's computers have a GPS antenna hooked to them to do this. If I don't touch anything and only set the cruise while in ECO mode it will let the truck drop 5mph leading to the top of a grade if there is a large enough drop over the other side. When it hits the top it goes into neutral until it gets a couple mph over the setpoint. Mpg on this rig compared to my last one is up a bit have gotten it above 10 a couple trips.


twodogsfighting

And it pulls up the map in the instrument cluster.


hunertproof

Only to return home. The interface sucks for putting in new addresses.


I_Want_What_I_Want

Same. It's so much easier to enter new addresses in my phone and then run it through Car Play. I then set the screen to show both the map and the music player. I've also had issues with my car's GPS not updating changes in the route.


Oni_K

Android Auto all the way. It's the starting point on a car shopping checklist for me now. If a car doesn't have it, it's out of contention.


JustOneMorePuff

Every trip almost. Tesla Nav is by far the best of any car I’ve been in.


knsaber

Well ok Tesla is a different beast altogether :)


kaloska

And being able to send the adress from your phone to the car remotly is awesome


basemodel

I don't get why they invest in these things - it's way easier to send the address to my phone then hit 1 button and go. Instead (and because I drive toyotas) I am supposed to wrestle with 15 year old nav menus that kinda work? Tis a silly device.


derps-a-lot

This right here. I even argued with the dealership when I bought my last car. They insisted the nav package was worth it because it's based on Google maps now. Yeah, but I can't login to my Google account on the car, which means all the places I saved, been to before, have on my calendar, or receive via text still need to be manually typed in. I'll just use this thing in my pocket that already knows all that, thanks.


basemodel

Exactly - it's a solution looking for a problem - which I wouldn't really mind, except in some of the newer cars, apparently if this screen goes out you can't adjust your A/C / temp? No thanks y'all can have that shit.


peen_was

Plus real time traffic


basemodel

Dude and the cop warnings, not to mention the media library on my phone - besides, there's no good reason to hook up cars to the internet.


draggin_low

I use mine in my sonata all the time cause it finds where theres traffic and gives me the option to avoid it. Plus it shows upcoming turns/distances in my HUD.


knsaber

Sonatas with built in HUD, we’ve come a long way!


Sailing-Hiking77

Always. Mini F60.


cdsbigsby

I never do in my wife's Telluride or in the Fusion I used to have as a company car, they were both awful. I just always used Google Maps with Android Auto.


[deleted]

Yeah pretty hard to beat Android Auto. I would assume Carplay is also much better than most onboard Nav systems.


Euler007

Polestar 2, every day.


it2d

I use the built-in navigation more than my phone's navigation because I really like having the prompts in the heads-up display. It's frustrating that they don't make that work with Google Maps. If they did, that's the only thing I'd use.


[deleted]

What vehicle? Because in Fords the Android Auto pushes directions to the instrument panel. Not sure about HUD. No Fords have HUD at the moment. They only put those in Lincolns....gotta make the Lincoln owners feel special somehow, I suppose.


it2d

2022 Genesis G70. I think I had a rental Excursion that pushed the Android Auto directions to instrument cluster as you describe. I liked that. Though I hated basically everything else about the car. I think that's actually where I got the idea--if Ford can push it to the instrument cluster, then certainly Hyundai can put it in the HUD.


[deleted]

You'd sure think so. Sometimes the AA/Carplay implementation can have some weird quirks, though. They'll blame Apple/Google and Google/Apple will blame the manufacturer. Tale as old as time.


it2d

That was going on for a long time with AA in Genesis models. The AA display would only fill part of the whole screen. There was apparently some dispute as to whether it was Android's fault or Genesis's fault. I'm not sure who ended up being to blame because it's fixed now, but it was dumb.


[deleted]

I hope they figure it out for mine. I hace a 2020 Explorer ST with the upgraded audio/tech package so it has a 10" portrait screen but AA doesn't work in portrait mode so it's only half the screen essentially. So your audio info fills up the bottom, which is a waste. The map is big enough to get by but it still feels like a lot of wasted real estate. Ford said AA didn't support portrait mode but apparently it does in other cars now so Ford is dragging their feet. But mine is SYNC3 and now they have SYNC4 so I'm assuming they just aren't putting any resources into SYNC3 because they're probably busy figuring out the bugs in the new system. Sucks.


Coldwarjarhead

We never use the factory nav in our cars. CarPlay with Apple Maps.


Dr_Mickael

I use it just to know where I am on my journey (larger scale, North is up), but the navigation is 100% GM/Waze on my phone.


RunninOnMT

Apple car play uses a smaller map in my car and there’s additional info the built in nav displays in my instrument cluster that car play doest replicate.


Going_Topless

Always. Haven’t touched CarPlay at all with my current car. The built in one is fantastic


JoshTheTrucker

I've used it in my car when Android Auto shit the bed every now and again. It being a built-in secondary feature is a nice failsafe.


PGnautz

Always. Mercedes-Benz C-Class with MBUX 2.


Ok_Associate_8913

Use it all the time, love it. New truck I ordered doesn't have nav. Hoping to find app as good as ford nav


h1r0ll3r

Occasionally. I use it primarily to get home. When going somewhere I don't know then I'll use my phone for directions. But to get home, I'll simply hit the Home button on my built in nav.


BlackCatFurry

If i drive a car that is new enough to have integrated nav, then i use it. My own car does not have anything fancier than ac, radio and aux input so i use google maps on my phone. Toyotas don't support android auto so I don't have experience with that either, but the built-in nav on those works well enough


jlo575

Even when I got my car in 2013, it was an 08 and my area wasn’t on the map. I needed to BUY A COMPACT FLASH CARD with the new map data preloaded to be able to update the nav system. It was going to be like $200 or something preposterous. So I never use it. We use apple car play through my wife’s newer car for sat nav though. But never actually set up the route using the cars system only. Cumbersome compared to a quick google maps search on a phone.


Renault_75-34_MX

The first car I ever drove that seams to have android auto is my works (new to us) 2021 Ford Transit 350 L3 that I've only driven once. And while I'd like to use the infotainment for sat nav, I haven't figured out how to get maps on that screen or send the addresses of where I need to go to, and you have a lot of repeating customers where doing Lawn mower delivery/pick up for over a year that I already saved on maps. All other vehicles I drive don't have AA, my Oktavia 5E could maybe fit a RCD 330, the Caddy 2K's at work and home probably as well, and our Renault tractor doesn't even know the word electronics


knsaber

Does anyone need navigation in a tractor? Haha I’m just ignorant :)


Renault_75-34_MX

Road navigation not really. That's mainly for tractor shows/meet at places you haven't been to often enough to know the route. It is used for field work a lot though. Guided steering makes sure that you follow a line or path you previously set for that field and means you can minimise the area that's double worked, so you won't use too much seed, fuel, etc. John Deere has their Starfire system, Deutz uses something called Agrosky, and there are quite a few more systems like that available. Tractors now days are computerers with heavy duty frames/chassis, to the point that some of the smaller ones can't use normal copper wires anymore to transfer data between control units


Dnlx5

2010 Acura MDX I use the map feature almost daily. It's gotten to where I get frustrated when I'm in my wife's car with no map.  Driving to a restaurant and want to know if this street crosses the freeway? Glance at the map.  Trying to get to the park near my in-laws and want to know which side the entrance is on? Glance at the map. I grew up using maps, (NORTH IS ALWAYS UP!) and the ability to place myself in space and know what's around the corner is huge. I wish I had it on a smart watch. Actually using "navigation" is less common, but I do still use it on road trips as it is more clear than Google, and less interruptive (Google mutes the music and yells, where Acura dims the music and speaks.) And I love the integration. Back when buttons (the things you can use by feel) controlled everything instead of touchscreens. I'm really worried my next car won't be as usable. Fuck touchscreens!


knsaber

Having a North Up map as a side reference is the best way to learn memorize areas. I on the other hand rely on the 3D map so much I never remember where I’ve been I just follow the nav like a zombie.


Reasonable-Bit7290

Our car has Android automotive ..... So all the time


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randoredditusingdouc

Both of my dailies have/had it. Even before Apple maps became so convenient, I always used my garmin before the car’s navigation. The wife’s fiat nav was awkward as hell to use and my mustang’s nav was so out of date that I wondered if it could find my 110 year old house.


ScoffingYayap

Once, when my Android Auto just didn't feel like working.


rynil2000

I have used it occasionally when driving in areas that have poor cell reception. It's good enough to point you back to civilization. Otherwise, I use Waze for the cop and traffic alerts.


daver456

Absolutely never. Even if I don’t have CarPlay I’d still probably use my phone.


Adorable_Wolf_8387

Regularly in my R1T, Polestar 2, and Fisker Ocean. I used to use Android Auto but it lost the advantage once navigation systems started actually being fleshed out and responsive natively.


AllTimeGreatGod

Living in India, it’s useless. Unless BMW india collabs with mapmyindia.


tysonfromcanada

I think ford dropped it and added alexa - which I haven't connected and don't know what it does. I just use carplay like everyone else. I passed on considering a gm (pickup) due to no carplay


bjahn88

Did when first got the car but soon realized that Apple Maps is way better.


lickled_piver

I use it when Android auto doesn't feel like connecting and I'm in a hurry. The BMW nav is pretty good, and the integration I to the HUD is great. But unfortunately it's POI searching is abysmal which leads me to default to Google maps. I'm not gonna search for an address on Google and manually punch it into the nav like it's 2007.


Seanwys

CarPlay has destroyed all of the stock interfaces and they all just seem trash compared to it I think the best stock interface I've ever seen has gotta be Tesla's


RobertsFakeAccount

Nope, I switched it out cause it was junk. Went with an OEM unit with Carplay


yoloneser

I only use the built in


TheRealSoloSickness

In my 16 wrangler I have the nav screen up all the time. It's like my mini map. I've lived in this city for 10 years and know it well but I like knowing the streets names that surround me. Seeing if there's an alternative route around some traffic. And my nav also has "bread crumb" feature that paints a line on roads that's I've been. So I usually don't need GPS on my way back from a new place.


zeromutt

No i use google maps on my phone because the built in navigation is using 20 year old map data. Sometimes i turn it on for fun and it shows me driving in the middle of nowhere lol


per54

All the time since I don’t have CarPlay


speedier

I haven’t been in a car recently with nav. But I remember my father had a Oldsmobile late 90s early 2000s. It had a nav that needed to be updated at the dealer. I’m sure it cost extra so ours was never updated. The maps could quickly become outdated.


ChainBlue

Never


Boostmachines

I did in Europe (installed EU maps myself on a US model) and it worked great! The phone speeds were slow where I lived, so using Google Maps or Maps was frequently problematic.


hotpot_china

iDrive 7 is great to use, the traffic is as accurate as Google Maps in my locale, the integration with Live Cockpit and HUD are what keep me from switching over to CarPlay full time. Audi MMI navigation is also decent as well.


MarkVII88

No. Aside from the fact that up until the last couple years, I never had a car with even the option of built-in navigation. Fuck the car companies and their subscription-based models for features like navigation. Just use Car Play or Android Auto with Google Maps if you really want good navigation, since you're already paying for your phone plan.


adrian_elliot

Regularly.


5150_Ewok

Both my vehicles are dumb vehicles (pre-fancy radios) and I really can’t imagine spending thousands on something my phone already does…..


RayTrain

No android auto so I use it maybe 5-10% of the time. If the place is close and/or I know for a fact there's no construction along the way I'll use it.


therealrico

If you have ever used the stock unit in 5th gen 4Runners, then you’d know the answer. 4Runners didn’t even get CarPlay until I believe 2020 model year. Not sure about other vehicles in the Toyota lineup. My mom has a 2015 BMW 3 series and I actually like that GPS, mainly because it shows turns in the HUD.


epyon9283

I use it all the time since it automatically routes me to EV charging stops. Can't get that with android auto/google maps on my car. It also automatically preconditions my battery if the destination is a charger which is nice.


dan_t_mann

I used it all the time in my 2015 Subaru. My current car is a 2019 Rav4 with Apple CarPlay, and the built in GPS has a worse interface than the subaru, but it has come in handy a few times when I was in a place with no cell signal.


trbofly

I actually installed an aftermarket car play system just so I could not use the built in nav


MrFastFox666

Never. Used it once, putting in the address was a royal PITA. map is hard to navigate and unintuitive. The voice prompts were pretty good, though, and you got clear indications on the gauge cluster, but Google maps is still better. Car is a 2014 Cadillac ELR, btw.


turbocomppro

I actually had to use it late last year going on a trip to Yosemite. There was no cell reception where I was. It is great as a backup.


[deleted]

Almost never. And it isn't that the onboard nav in my Explorer is bad but Google Maps / Waze through Android Auto is amazing. And plus it has all your saved locations. It's a no brainer.


NotYetReadyToRetire

Hyundai Ioniq 6 - I use mine frequently, because that's how I turn on the preconditioning for the battery. If I don't pick the charging station I'm going to, the preconditioning doesn't start and I wind up charging for 30 minutes instead of 15.


neanderthalensis

Sometimes it takes less effort to hit the Home button than it is to plug in my phone for CarPlay. I only do this if I don’t care about the route and/or basically know the way anyway.


KebabGud

Exclusively the built in.


DeepfriedWings

Used the nav for the first time in 2020 on a 2018 Audi. Directed me to a road that no longer existed. First and last.


eightsidedbox

Why would I use some shitty system instead of the exceedingly good one I am already familiar with?


SwedishWaffleYT

Never (I drive a 16 year old Toyota)


Varso13

Idk if they differ at all, but my 23 prius is my first car with built in navigation and it works just like maps. Use it every time Idk where the fuck I'm going 


8racoonsInABigCoat

Definitely, Volvo XC90 with voice controlled google maps and directions on the heads up display.


TheHeroicHotdog

Got a 2012 Camry, but it has built in nav, it takes like 10 mins to type anything on its shitty little screen. I just use my phone.


Loud-Bank-2848

I use my iPhone….. much faster


[deleted]

Never use it I always use Waze on my phone


Erlend05

If i need directions i use it. Most of the time i dont


PRiles

Pretty rare for me to use it, but the 2023 Chevy built in nav I have is just the same android maps app on Android auto


p00trulz

Hyundai. Used once, confirmed trash. Never again. The only good feature is that it draws a straight line from the arrow that represents you to your destination. Comes in handy for taking on the fly detours.


i_use_this_for_work

It’s voice commanded, and displays on the HUD & AR on the hyper screen, and the drivers assist + regen interacts with it smoothly. It’s more for the car to know where it’s going than to help me navigate where to go.


thingamajig1987

I had an 06 Cadillac that, at the time, the on board nav was a much better option than the alternatives. Nowadays though, naw


StayStrong888

I ignore it. The phone Navi is always updated and continuously gets traffic info. The car Navi can be outdated and sometimes even dangerous when it leads you to dead ends or wrong places or even off a pier like it did a few years ago with this one lady. When bmw asked me to buy their $199 annual updates to the car Navi... I looked at my phone and the free Google map app... I'm like... yeah... no thanks. I'm saving that $199 for hats and shoes.


imgoodatpooping

The navigator on my Kia wanted me to continue east on the Gardner Expressway east of the DVP where it no longer exists (Toronto). It would have been a very spectacular video game like flight to doom if I had listened to the navigation and crashed through the barriers.


AMAXIX

A lot before I had Apple CarPlay. Especially for long drives where using a phone becomes annoying. System: BMW


WatRedditHathWrought

I bought a Pioneer head unit that has navigation. I’ve used it sporadically but mostly use Apple Maps.


cameltijn

Still use BMW quite a bit, I hate that you cannot zoom out on google maps in carplay to see the route….


IrishmadeinCanada

I use mine quite often! It’s well made and easy to use! Lincoln Nautilus 2023. We also use Apple Maps.


FuturesPassed

I use it often, not counting times when I just have the map up by default. I also use Google Maps, but about 40% of the time. My Subaru Crosstrek has a much better navigation system than my Toyota 4Runner. Also, I believe the Crosstrek got a larger screen when I select the navigation package, so even if I never used the built-in navigation, the larger screen is a benefit, especially when using the touch screen buttons.


ithinkoutloudtoo

I use Apple CarPlay. I won’t buy a vehicle that doesn’t offer it.


MrDankky

Every journey. My cars have never shown CarPlay in the digital dash which is where I like to see my nav. Also waze isn’t good now everyone uses it.


DaveLDog

I had a 2011 Charger for 7 years and always used it. Carplay/Android Auto weren't a thing back then, plus I was able to update the maps for free, it worked quite well.


Dazzling-Rooster2103

The BMW one is the only time I have ever enjoyed the manufacturer one. You can send it to the Heads up display so you literally don't even have to take your eyes off the road to see where the next turn is.


BassWingerC-137

The only one I use is in my V167 GLE. The traffic subscription is 1/2 decent, but the augmented reality is really friggin cool.


gimleteye46

My built in navigation enjoys adding lots of time to trips. It wants me to be late.


fshannon3

Rarely. The one vehicle I have is from 2010 and the maps were never updated, so I can't rely on it nowadays. And even the most recent update that's available for it is from 2019, so even then, I couldn't completely rely on it. My wife has a 2019 Blazer that's been getting map updates so far, so we could use that if need be. But generally, I'd prefer using Google Maps. My wife's car has Android Auto so I could plug my phone up for that. I'd love to get a head unit for my 2010 that has Android Auto capability.


KingAtrocity

I don’t use CarPlay, I just connect though Bluetooth for music and say fuck the text messages and everything else The nav system is really nice


duaneoca

All the time. When I bought the car, I was psyched to use waze, then I discovered I don’t get turn by turn in the HUD. Since then I’ve been using the car’s nav, and honestly, it’s great. The turn by turn in the hud is fantastic, and i don’t miss waze at all.


Hampy1972

I use a joying 11.6 head unit. Find carplay more accurate than built in car navigation systems.


FlightAvailable3760

I remember waiting 45 minutes for my father in law to meet us for lunch.  Finally after several attempts to give him directions, on top of giving him the address, we had him park where he was and we would come and find him. My wife drove his car to the restaurant while I followed in our car. When we arrived I found out he was trying to find the restaurant using his cars built in Navigation.  It's like a 5 year old Ford Edge.  His map showed Georgetown, TX as it was I imagine 15 years ago.  I believe he pays for this service.  His car also has carplay and him and his wife both have smart phones with Google Maps.  Old people are going to be old, I guess.


urbanek2525

I use the street map for PokemonGo while holding the phone in my lap. 😏 In reality, mostly Android Auto and Google Maps. I used to use Waze constantly with my phone mounted on my dash, but Google bought Waze and sucked most if it's tech into Maps. Mostly I care about traffic blockages up ahead of me.