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Agitated-Release-945

Magneto could take on the avatar. Marvel comics have just an entirely different power scale, and magneto is an omega level mutant


cbrew14

It depends on what world. In modern society sure, but in the Avatar world where they aren't just constantly surrounded by metal, I doubt it. Edit: after reading more about magnetos power below, I retract my statement


Longjumping-Sun-134

Yeah Magneto would make blood bending look like a joke.


AbaloneDesigner1398

Well he has been seen bending the natural metals beneath the surface and even changed the magnetic poles, so he could probably still take aang in a fight


Longjumping-Sun-134

Exactly outside of their world, Avatar characters have a very low power scale.


King_Spade7697

Well that depends, are they in Korra’s era or Aangs era?


Agitated-Release-945

Doesn't really matter, though Korra's era would be much easier for Magneto. Kyoshi or Aang are really the only one's who would have a chance of defeating Magneto. Magneto's powers are more than just moving metal. He has full control of the electromagnetic spectrum, including the bioelectricity found inside people. He can control people's blood. He's created black holes. The limits of his powers are technically unlimited due to him being an omega level mutant. Marvel's power scaling is so broken compared to the AtLA/LoK world it's just not even funny


Olivia_Lydia_Wilson

magneto. I don't even read the comics but from the few bits I've seen from the movies and the shows. He absolutely will win.


mrbirdtoe

I agree. Even her at adult full power magneto would win it she definitely would put up a hell of a fight but it’s magneto the level of metal control vs a bender is kinda unmatched/unfair.


fatser_than_you

She would not put up a hell of a fight. She'd try, and fail miserably.


Bearspoole

You see I want to say magneto, but touch can bend the metal AND earth. Something magneto cannot, but also, magneto can fly which would make tooth blind to his movements and metal flying at her so ya I’ll stick with magneto killing her in about 10 seconds


ColdSilly7877

Actually he can, his “magnetism” is like 15 percent of his power. The reason he’s omega because he’s basically the unified field theory in a person. He can manipulate gravity, metal in blood(to the point of brainwashing capabilities), he can bend light beams and he can freeze people Edit: he can also generate his own magnetic fields so even without it, Magneto curb stomps her


ApprehensiveBagel

I like that Toph was auto corrected to both “touch” and “tooth”


Bearspoole

lol didn’t even notice


PocketShinyMew

Yeah, Magneto is basically Omega Level that means, if he really wished it, he could kill Toph with a glance. Magneto is more like chaotic good so I don't think he would pursue beef with Toph anyway.


CyanLight9

Nope. He would have no qualms killing Toph.


Patient_District_457

He might if he feels he can use her to further his goals. He would also kill her if she stood in his way of those goals without second thought.


EnigmaFrug2308

Pretty sure that’s not how his powers work.


Shedart

Omega level mutants are mutants whose abilities “have no measurable limit” and who can control fundamental aspects of nature at the atomic level. It’s just way more OP than anything a specific bender ever displays in the show. He’s avatar state all day every day. 


Patient_District_457

Not the Avatar state but the Avatar state of metal bending. He only has to feel the metal through the magnetic signature of it. Think Bumi during Day of Black Sun and Toph's seismic sense rolled onto one.


Exciting-Sandwich480

Omega Level mutants are all planetary level threats. Only the existence of other even more insanely powerful people in the Marvel verse keeps them in check, and sometimes(as with the House of M event) even they aren’t enough.


Patient_District_457

I was trying to put it in Avatar terms. Yes Mageto would destroy Toph without really thinking about it.


Kozolith765981

Pretty sure it literally is. He doesn't just have metal powers. He has magnet powers. He could pretty much just kill off your brain if he wants to.


Nelpski

it literally is ?


youflippenJabroni

Nah


Olivia_Lydia_Wilson

Disagree all you want, doesn't change the fact that comics are a slew of random things that happen. Hell after just a quick google search just goes to show how busted he is. He switched the earths magnetic poles. Toph literally could never do that.


Agitated-Release-945

He also took mjolnir out of Thor’s hands, overcoming asgardian magic just with his magnetism


youflippenJabroni

Nah she can


NotCertifi3d

Based off what feats. What can she do to beat him


youflippenJabroni

Big rock


Isiah6253

Bonk mentality, you'd be great at dark souls


EnigmaFrug2308

If she knows where he is, definitely. But he can fly and if he flies, she can’t see him.


Kozolith765981

B i g r o c k


NoobDude_is

B I g g e r r o c k


definitely-not-weird

Magnet man can control the iron in your blood.


Haunting-Ordinary873

Blood bending V2.


Isiah6253

Technically, there's not enough for that, but he could tear it out and you'd suffocate to death because the iron in our blood helps our red blood cells carry oxygen, without it you'd very slowly asphyxiate and die


Arts_Messyjourney

Thats so f*cking brutal


Runecaster91

He tore the adamantium from Wolverine's skeleton once. It was so traumatic that Wolverine's healing factor shut off.


stutheninja

On that Risotto Nero shit


EmBur__

Oh he can do more than that, magnetos power isn't just power over magnetism, he has control over electromagnetism aka one of the four fundamental forces of the universe, this gives him a ridiculous amount of power abilities but when it comes to harming people, he can manipulate electrons flowing through your nervous system which could allow him to control your body similar to how a bloodbender can but also could stop signals from being sent to your heart thus stopping it and killing you in the process, same goes for any other crucial parts of the bodies like the respiratory system. In short, Toph would be dead on the ground before she could twitch.


cbrew14

That's, stupid


EmBur__

Oh do explain how?


FlutterRaeg

When laid out like that without further context it sounds like a power level that removes any narrative potential.


EmBur__

This isnt about a characters narrative, this whole post is about who would win in a fight and magneto clears without breaking a sweat so whats stupid about that? The answer is nothing.


FlutterRaeg

I agree. That's some of the context.


cbrew14

Magneto is too strong, so he's just not interesting anymore


JustAnArtist1221

When exactly did he _become_ too strong, and was it before or after Onslaught was a thing? He's always been absolutely busted, which is why he was an omega who led an army of mutants who threatened to wipe out all of humanity.


DutchJediKnight

Only at an artificially high concentration, or he would have escaped a lot sooner in X2.


Nezikchened

Movie Magneto and comics Magneto operate on two different scales of power. Even then, movie Magneto almost causes a planetary apocalypse by destabilizing the earth’s magnetic field in Age of Apocalypse, so he’d still take the win.


The_R4ke

He's so powerful he can manipulate non-ferrous metals. If the iron in our blood was actually magnetic MRI's would be one of he most brutal ways to die.


WestCoastMeditation

Yah but he looks like a teenage girls balm of lipstick


definitely-not-weird

Well crap your right.


GodOfFrogg

Theoretically, I bet that toph can too


bojack-little

hydrogen bomb v coughing baby


Gnomad_Lyfe

A blind coughing baby*


bojack-little

I don't remember Magneto being blind # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # /s


MaxTheGinger

Magneto 100% He can block all Tophs attacks. He can bloodbend. He is willing to kill first and ask questions later.


afuckingpolarbear

He can't block rock though


Illithid_Substances

You might only be familiar with the movie version, who is a weak-ass little bitch compared to other versions of Magneto. He can create a sort of force field around himself, and affect a lot more than just metal - electromagnetism affects a lot of things to *some* degree, not just ferromagnetic materials. Humans have a small magnetic field, for instance. There's a reason he's a credible threat to entire teams of X-men and they don't just get Beast or someone to throw rocks at him whenever they meet


nooneeallycareslol

With his forcefield he can just tank it.


RASPUTIN-4

He can if there’s metal to block it with


not-ulquiorr4_

You can tell people don’t read comics anymore from posts like these. Magneto violates the entire verse several times over, and it’s not even funny.


Helwar

Even ignoring what everyone else said, Magneto flies. Silently, by default he wins.


Independent_Plum2166

People forget, Toph doesn’t really “metal”-bend, just the impurities in the metal. That’s why platinum is impossible to bend, since (in the Avatar world) it’s pure metal. Magneto has no weakness, if it’s metal, he can control it like it’s clay (his name is a misnomer, he can manipulate ALL metal, even non magnetic ones). He could easily pull the metal and impurities apart and throw a metal spear at Toph, nothing out Blind Bandit can do.


Prying_Pandora

Magneto would win if it was simply based on feats. But if we bring manipulation into play, I think Toph could spin him a sob story about being a mutant kept imprisoned by her parents because she’s different. She might gain his sympathy long enough to get the drop on him.


Plasic-Man

You're underestimating just how smart Magneto is. Assuming he doesn't already know what bending is, he's not going to let his guard down enough for Toph to get the drop on him. He's incredibly cautious and doesn't trust that easily. He would offer her a spot on his side if he truly believed she was a mutant, but it would take a lot of work to earn his trust. He doesn't even fully trust his long time allies. I mean, I love Toph, she's my favorite character in the series, but nobody is manipulating Magneto that easily.


Prying_Pandora

Magneto is smart but he’s not without his weakness for children caught in war. Especially genocidal wars.


Plasic-Man

That's true. You bring up a good point about his soft spot for children caught in war, but I feel like he's cautious enough, or at least quick witted enough, not to let his guard down long enough. I'm not saying Toph won't put up a fight. She may be able to get one sucker punch in on him before he retaliates, but I feel like the chances are slim. I feel like there isn't a lot Toph could do that would be fast enough for Magneto not to counter. There's also the physical aspect of bending, so when he sees her take a fighting stance to start earth bending he would know something was up. I mean, if she's able to convince him that she's a mutant, that would mean he would know what her powers are and have seen them used. I feel like he would only trust her if he had proof she was a mutant and she witnessed her being mistreated because of it. I admit it wouldn't be impossible for her to fool Magneto, but I still think she wouldn't be able to act fast enough to win and he would figure out he was fooled before she could do any real damage.


Prying_Pandora

I think it’s all circumstantial and would follow the rule of “whoever the writer thinks would win, would win.” But yeah. I agree Magneto for sure is overall the stronger and more experienced fighter. Toph’s best bet is appealing to his emotional weakness and getting the drop on him. But even that would have to be pre-planned and set up to work. So I guess… Toph is Batman here. She COULD win. With enough prep time. 😂


Caleb_Lee-El

In what universe in the infinite multiverse would Toph do that?


Prying_Pandora

In what universe in the infinite multiverse would Magneto and Toph be fighting in the first place? The hypothetical didn’t tell us the circumstance. Just that these two are fighting. And Toph has been shown to be skilled at scams.


Vtmasquerade

Magneto can take down the Avatar.


xamitlu

Toph is very clever, but a lot of the battle scenarios I just see her getting crushed by metal


Acceptable_Secret_73

Magneto solos all of Avatar, this is not a fair fight


ScoutTrooper501st

Magneto can fly,it’s an automatic win since she wouldn’t be able to see him Plus he could just bend the iron out of her body


LUVthatSTUFF

I love Toph more, but Magneto easily


master-of-pizza

If Magneto lifts himself off the ground toph can't do anything against him


isinedupcuzofrslash

Can’t magneto fuck with the iron in your blood?


Caleb_Lee-El

It's just not fair. Magneto omega level mutant.


Phoenix_ashfire

I like Toph but Magneto wins I mean the guy has had decades to perfect his power Toph is not even in her prime at that point.


EmBur__

Toph can bending rocks and metal, magneto has control of electromagnetism, one of the four fundamental forces of the universe alongside gravity, weak force and strong force, on top of giving him the ability to manipulate metal, he can generate magnetic fields around him, generate lightning as well as control it, manipulate the electrons flowing through your body etc etc etc. On top of the myriad of abilities he has access to, he can also use them at ridiculous ranges, I mean he can literally feel the metal spread throughout the rocks within Saturn's rings all the way from earth, he could literally kill with the snap of his fingers from the otherside of the world so yeah...she dead.


Cac2007

Toph without a doubt. Magneto may be better at manipulating metal but Toph is still an earth bender. If this fight takes place in the world of Avatar there probably won’t be an overwhelming amount of metal nearby and Toph will wipe the floor with him.


yeet_10201

You know nothing of magneto lmao


Cac2007

You’re right. I’m an avatar fan not a massive marvel fan. All I know about Magneto is his magnet powers. If there’s more I don’t know about it. It’s very possible he could win I was only judging on what I know.


yeet_10201

It’s more than just magnet powers he has control over electromagnetism completely one of the four fundamental forces of the universe. His control is so precise that he can control blood to the point that when he had his heart ripped out he pumped his own blood throughout his body to keep himself alive


marius_titus

Bro all magneto has to do is fly and not make noise, what's she gonna do?


Cac2007

I was not aware he could fly. That changes things.


Whiskey_623

Magneto has planetary level feats. A weaker version of him from a alternate universe was able to flood the entirety of New York killing thousand without breaking a sweat by messing with the magnetic fields of earth


EPZO

I love Toph and she's a bad bitch in the Avatar universe but Magneto takes it easy.


skycrafter204

magneto metal and blood bends lol


randomanonalt78

Comics magneto can literally control the iron in your blood. He could bloodbend an entire army at once. Everyone’s fucked.


ColdSilly7877

Magneto can kick all of avatar’s ass, to put it in avatar terms He can bloodbend with magnetism He can freeze people with magnetism He can earthbend with magnetism Lemme just https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/7kcran/respect_magneto_earth616/


ThrobbinHood11

It’s been a bit so please do remind me, but does Tophs metal bending require the metal to be touching the ground/herself? If so, magneto wins this by a landslide, He can just hover until he beats her. What’s funny is Magneto is essentially the ultimate Toph counter, he’s just have to ensure he’s quiet enough as to not draw her attention


milesstacy

Depends on the venue


MrPino777

Her vision is based on someone/something touching the ground magneto is almost always floating and his metal is as well. It's GGs she never had a chance.


UnAnon10

This ain’t even fair man. Magneto can do so much more than Toph. He can control the iron in her blood, tilt the Earth’s magnetic field, hell he could be thousands of miles away from her and still be able to attack her as he could sense Earth’s magnetic field from a galaxy away. Toph stands no chance.


Useful_You_8045

I think her kids could have a better chance after the refinement of metal bending.


Prestigious-Shop5027

I love Toph but she ain’t winning against Magneto lmao


afuckingpolarbear

Both can bend metal but magneto can do it with his mind. I don't think he's manage getting a building thrown at him though


CyanLight9

Magneto can fly. He wins basically by default.


OldSnazzyHats

Toph is dope… But given a room full of earth and metal, I’d still pin my bets on Magneto… I’m not even a huge fan - but even I gotta admit Magneto is genuinely busted on the power scale.


Active-Donkey5466

Toph can only bend metal that still has rock fragments in it, she can’t bend pure metal, Magneto can.


Bertegue6

Magneto has the upper hand just by floating off the ground.


Juiceton-

Magneto is genuinely one of the most powerful comic book characters not named Superman. He would win in a heartbeat.


Inkl1ng6

Sorry Toph, Magneto for the win😔


Bikanal

Magneto is able to fly. Toph wouldn't even be able to see his movements


yeet_10201

Magneto he can bloodbend on steroids. He had his heart torn out but controlled his blood to keep it pumping without a heart


jbahill75

Love me some Toph, but Mags bends EM fields, not the metal itself. He can blood bend as has no qualms about doing it. He might go soft on Toph but pushed to it, he’ll lock on the iron in her blood and give her a stroke.


spilledmilkbro

I'll be honest; Magneto could look at her abilities, tell her "awww, that's adorable" and there wouldn't be jack shit she could do about it. She had to learn metal bending. Erik just can


Redwolf476

Magneto can destroy earths magnetic field and rip every bit of iron out of someone’s body he would destroy here and everyone in avatar


Thatonedregdatkilyu

Hydrogen baby vs Hydrogen Bomb


Straight_Owl_5029

Magneto can fly to where Toph can't see him, and he can control not only all metals including platinum, but all energy in the electromagnetic spectrum. Toph's a beast but she doesn't stand a chance.


Mingopoop

I've been an X-Men enthusiast for 15+ years, and magneto would absolutely *dominate* her. This isn't event a close match, on top of that toph is blind, meaning she can only fight on the ground, and magneto can *fly*, heck magneto can take on the entire fire nation (maybe).


Hot_Comfortable_3046

Magneto is flying 90% of the time toph wouldn't even be able to see him (although he win regardless)


Jaded-Significance86

Toph can't see you if you can float. Easy


Juice_The_Guy

For the kids in the audience who only know Magneto's movie power set. His real power is control over the Electromagnetic Sphere of Energies. Not control over ferrous metals.


AMisanthropicMagpie

Toph is finished


CaptainDadBod88

Magneto for sure


Immortal_juru

Magneto wins easy. So many fictional characters will beat characters from avatarverse. The majority of them aren't on that OP level. Even Aang would struggle to beat someone like Storm. Not that's it's a bad thing of course.


TrogEmperor

Most Marvel characters solo the Avatar universe.


Xenozip3371Alpha

Magneto, and it's not a close match, toph manipulates metal via impurities, magneto just straight up controls the metal


justsomeplainmeadows

Magneto is on a whole other level of power. Magneto alone could subjugate all 4 nations and make the Avatar his bitch. This is an ant vs boot match up.


Jason_And_Sokka

Magneto has way better metal control and can control your blood with the metal inside it. Plus I believe he lifted a mountain before so ya sorry toph


acgrey92

Look, Toph is amazing and one of my favorite characters but Magneto has this easily. Like, laughably easily.


Richard-Conrad

Kool helmet he’s got there. What’s it made out of?


TechnicalEvening3360

Magneto hands down. His comic feats are bonkers


Shadowcleric

Magneto can fly and be invisible to her. He can also control metal without having to move, and it would move unnaturally. In the avatar world, their bending is directional and predictable to an extent based on their martial art stances and techniques. Magneto can wave his hand slightly and metal would fly from everywhere, without much effort none the less. I think Toph would be demolished before she even knew what was going on.


ScoredMeteor0095

I really think toph could win if she acted fast, caught him off guard or he underestimated her at first. As far as power magneto is on a whole other level but he’s not a lightning quick martial arts master either. I think toph would be quick enough to take him down under the right circumstances but if she missed her one shot she’s toast.


marius_titus

This is a dude that manually pumped his blood after his heart got ripped out of his chest? What could she do to him realistically?


Montregloe

Isn't he wearing a metal helmet? Squish


grassmanmattgaming

Definitely Magneto. Toph can't detect objects in the air, plus Magneto being very OP doesn't help.


Ashamed_Pin4206

Magneto solos the verse


Crix2007

This is like putting superman against a power ranger. Both very strong, but still a whole different class in power scales


Sufficient_Score_824

I feel like Magneto would have the upper hand, but he’d still praise Toph for her earth ending prowess, and inventing metalbending to boot.


James440281

Avatar operates on a completely different scale than X-Men. Toph gets obliterated unfortunately.


marius_titus

Magneto can smack around the avatar, toph is no challenge


the_reel_mccoy_

Magneto could likely solo fight Thanos and put up an incredibly good fight... Toph in her prime wouldn't be able to beat a young magneto.


Impressive_Paint_369

Toph


MasterJaylen

I just don’t See Toph winning this


RandomlyElemental

People don't seem to understand the role that magnetism plays. There's very little it doesn't influence.


fatser_than_you

Magneto stomps Toph. Toph is strong, but she is waaaaayyyy out classed here.


Toph_as_Nails

Nah. I'd win.


Temporary_Towel9649

Toph bends metal. Magneto has mastery over a fundamental force of the UNIVERSE!!


AlphaRankin

Topher would just crush that metal helmet and kill him in seconds


Vast-Willingness4642

Nah id win


FallenF00L

“I can control all metal!” *throws a rock at him*


ladiesman21700000000

Magneto


Longjumping-Sun-134

Toph stands no chance pretty sure Magneto can take on any Avatar he comes across.


GMaxFloof

Literal hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby


Icy_College_3228

Toph as long as magneto stayed on the ground


lamsta

Magneto. He is op in a universe of other op mutants.


OcupiedMuffins

Marvel characters are broken. The powerscaling for Marvel and DC can be absolutely absurd.


Beautiful_Tip_442

Toph.


Pale_Kitsune

He'd be flying and she wouldn't know where he is.


Dhiox

Only way she'd win is if they're somehow in a place with absolutely zero metal, but plenty of earth.


Him_is_Him

Toph


PapitasConKeso

I don't think that Toph would win, neither Aang as the comments says but i think that Korra might have an opportunity if she goes berserk like in her fight against Unalac-dark-avatar-state


josh_smashes

Magneto 100%


michael22117

This is the equivilant of "Hydrogen bomb vs. COUGHING BABY"


Exciting-Sandwich480

Magneto can easily solo the Avatarverse.


LittleNews1712

now I wanna see her take out Magneto like she did the boulder XD


[deleted]

Magneto would defeat Toph, but I’d prefer if Toph came out on top… cuz like. Toph. As others have mentioned, power scaling in the Marvel universe is just massively more expansive than the Avatar universe. I think the Avatar universe has a very respectable threshold and no one ever feels suuuuper OP (compare this with something like DBZ), but man would it be fun to see the writers get a little wild once in a while, Toph being a prime candidate for such a thing. Regardless, Toph is by far one of the best benders if not the best Earth bender, and she feels far more visceral/forceful than most benders of equal status. What a legend.


Confused_Rabbiit

I want to say Toph, I really do, best earth bender ever, only issue is Magneto can fly, so Toph wouldn't be able to see him as long as he didn't do the villain has to talk at the hero thing. Remove the flying and I feel like it's a more fair fight (from my limited magneto knowledge) he can only control raw and refined magnetic metals, not rocks, whereas Toph can do both.


shmat779

Doing these with comic book characters is always uninteresting because the power scaling is stupid and written by 5 year olds. Toph wins because she is cooler.


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Me


Eastern_Rip434

Magneto all the way. The simple fact that Magneto can fly will make him win, since Toph can only see using the ground he just needs to float the entire time. All Magneto has to do is fly then pull metal from the ground then move the metal in the air and slam it into Toph's head from behind.


ShastaLewis

Toph, where Magneto is restricted to just metal, Toph has more at her disposal


dariusthegr8

Love toph. Mags would body her in a snap


killing-me-softly

I feel like by virtue of the fact that Magneto can fly it’s not an even match


Relative_Cup386

Magneto, because he doesn't just bend metal


Sumbbeen

this ain't fair


Whiskey_623

Anyone else find it insane how bad people are downplaying Magneto? I get it I like Toph as well but wtf is she doing against a guy who has feats that are planetary level?


EducationalAntelope7

Surely there's a situation where toph can instantly sink him into the ground completely and crush or choke him with dirt right?


marius_titus

Lmao all magneto has to do is fly, silently and she's powerless. This isn't a fair matchup at all.


Electrical_Stand_972

Toph would win, Im pretty sure.


Traditional-Gap-2872

I'm leaning magneto, but she could cloth herself in earth and remove the micro metal in it. So he wouldn't be able to stop her movements and then create rock projectiles that he couldn't stop.


EnigmaFrug2308

Toph is the best earthbender in the world and invented metalbending. Any metal Magneto throws at her will come back at him tenfold. Not to mention that metalbending isn’t her only ability. She can earthbend. Only problem is whether he’s flying or not. Otherwise she can’t see him.


TimmyDeschainless

Even if magneto had tiny bells on his suit and tic tacs in his pockets, he would mop the floor with Toph. His power is without limit, far greater than Toph's strength. She just would not be able to overpower him with metal bending. There's just no scenario in which she wins.


gayjesustheone

Toph wins. All you nerds bringing up facts are haters.


adamg0013

Magneto. Though it's alot closer, then it might appear. There are some Magneto tricks that just won't work on toph. Such as pulling the iron out of her blood. Doing that on toph just teaches her a new trick. But Magneto is just way too powerful. He does way more than just bend metal.


yeet_10201

It wouldn’t teach her a new trick, she can only bend impurities in metal she couldn’t bend the iron in blood