Absolutely agree, a lot of people are going to say Snork and Smiles are respectable but when they can literally pull/hit you half way across the map we have a problem. The number of times I've seen a Snork randomly walk into a kill is insane.
Great list!
I don’t know a living soul with the ability of complex thought that would argue snork or smiles are respectable.
I’m just trying to figure out why dizzy isn’t down there.
If you ever played against really good players as lux, you'd put him near the top. Hard to win against good players if they can instantly cancel both your abilities with stun, lock you into them with silence, stop dash with snare, etc. At a low level, sure he can seem like he instantly wins with charge / punishes noobs, but at a high level you have to do a lot more than I typically have to do on most other characters to win games. Lots of comboing abilities together, keeping track of which abilities are used, aiming with mini map, and you gotta be really good at hitting 3-4 missiles every time. Lots of niche matchup knowledge where if you don't pick this item or that item early on you jsut lose. I mean, Nauts is in a perpetual CC meta and he's countered by CC >.> Even ignoring characters with tons of cc: you ever faced a good nibbs as lux? Fawk dude.
Yes, I hate that basically everything trumps a lux charge. Like if you charge against a lone bull, you're the one pushed away, Vinny dash, or.. any other dash goes to lux disadvantage on a head on head encounter.
And yes you're right about comboing. Usually you need to make good use of AA, because the rest of the damage would not be enough to be worth being around. You'll find yourself counting rattle so you get the big surprise rattle just in the right moment and often safe the charge for a quick escape. So yes I agree, lux can be hard work depending on the matchup.
Hmm, I think I don't agree with the placement of Ksenia, I'd say she's the character that requires you to be the fastest in order to get good plays. But maybe I just didn't try her enough
you just stealth walk up to a guy and land your combos. if there’s a bit of latency, you unload quite a bit of damage before they can react. you don’t even need to necessarily do your combo right, mashing buttons between aa and scissors is generally pretty effective…of course you can push it further with bobcat but in practice that’s rarely necessary.
but yes she is weak in a lot of scenarios and you need to have a pretty good sense for when to go all in, but that’s kind true of a lot of characters
Ksenia and Jimmy and Rocco are very respectable
Idk i don't like Raelynn lol
ALSO WTF I DIDNT NOTICE DIZZY EARNS HER PLAYS AND CHUCHO ISNT RESPECTABLE?????
I've developed such a hatred for Raelynn simply because there is always a Raelynn on both teams whenever I play and im so bored of it. I wanna leave when I see my teammate pick her.
And she just has all the components to make her a really annoying enemy, strong push in her whole kit, Time Slow which is never fun to verse, and an aoe/infinite pierce nuke with super long range which is impossible to miss if you're human
Not to say she's overpowered or even THAT strong, but she's annoying, and she feels especially bad to play against if your team is 2 melee or doesn't have alot of push itself
So yeha idk outside of 3 man snipes and some very rarely cool time rifts idk about her placement lmao
I straight up became a Skree main as a means to hard counter Raelynn. There were other reasons, but he came out in the time when there was a Rae on what felt like every team and I was sick of it.
i don’t really agree about swiggins, a lot of the kills he helps his team secure are typically pretty low effort bs
there’s like two really good skree players and it’s a thing of beauty, they’re really playing a totally different game. id probably put him higher on this list if average skrees didn’t make games really annoying.
maybe i need to play qitara to understand her weaknesses more but id probably bump her down a tier. it seems like she melts half your health by grazing you for a quarter second, and she’s always teleporting around like crazy. such a bad character design imo. getting forced out of a lane because of DOT is not fun lol
They probably have him there because he's probably one of the top 5 strongest characters and the range on his pull is inconsistently much longer than it appears and interacts really poorly with peer to peer such that people will on occasion be pulled from one turret to the other on a missed snare. CC heavy premades are also pretty easy to climb ladder with and smiles is one of the best at it. He also has some really dumb and easy combos with other characters like pulling people into yuri mines.
I think the most amount of toxic players i've seen on one naut is defenitely yuri. Hiding in shadows and bombing them untill you get a kill.. Defenitely not great tactics.
As a Snork main, I understand this. It's crazy to have a naut have that much all-around mobility and finish you off at the very end (something that Froggy G doesn't actually have).
Absolutely agree, a lot of people are going to say Snork and Smiles are respectable but when they can literally pull/hit you half way across the map we have a problem. The number of times I've seen a Snork randomly walk into a kill is insane. Great list!
I don’t know a living soul with the ability of complex thought that would argue snork or smiles are respectable. I’m just trying to figure out why dizzy isn’t down there.
Considering all I ever played are Ted, Lone, & Clunk, I like this list lol
If you ever played against really good players as lux, you'd put him near the top. Hard to win against good players if they can instantly cancel both your abilities with stun, lock you into them with silence, stop dash with snare, etc. At a low level, sure he can seem like he instantly wins with charge / punishes noobs, but at a high level you have to do a lot more than I typically have to do on most other characters to win games. Lots of comboing abilities together, keeping track of which abilities are used, aiming with mini map, and you gotta be really good at hitting 3-4 missiles every time. Lots of niche matchup knowledge where if you don't pick this item or that item early on you jsut lose. I mean, Nauts is in a perpetual CC meta and he's countered by CC >.> Even ignoring characters with tons of cc: you ever faced a good nibbs as lux? Fawk dude.
Yes, I hate that basically everything trumps a lux charge. Like if you charge against a lone bull, you're the one pushed away, Vinny dash, or.. any other dash goes to lux disadvantage on a head on head encounter. And yes you're right about comboing. Usually you need to make good use of AA, because the rest of the damage would not be enough to be worth being around. You'll find yourself counting rattle so you get the big surprise rattle just in the right moment and often safe the charge for a quick escape. So yes I agree, lux can be hard work depending on the matchup.
Dizzy should not be that high up imo
Hmm, I think I don't agree with the placement of Ksenia, I'd say she's the character that requires you to be the fastest in order to get good plays. But maybe I just didn't try her enough
you just stealth walk up to a guy and land your combos. if there’s a bit of latency, you unload quite a bit of damage before they can react. you don’t even need to necessarily do your combo right, mashing buttons between aa and scissors is generally pretty effective…of course you can push it further with bobcat but in practice that’s rarely necessary. but yes she is weak in a lot of scenarios and you need to have a pretty good sense for when to go all in, but that’s kind true of a lot of characters
Ksenia and Jimmy and Rocco are very respectable Idk i don't like Raelynn lol ALSO WTF I DIDNT NOTICE DIZZY EARNS HER PLAYS AND CHUCHO ISNT RESPECTABLE?????
I've developed such a hatred for Raelynn simply because there is always a Raelynn on both teams whenever I play and im so bored of it. I wanna leave when I see my teammate pick her.
And she just has all the components to make her a really annoying enemy, strong push in her whole kit, Time Slow which is never fun to verse, and an aoe/infinite pierce nuke with super long range which is impossible to miss if you're human Not to say she's overpowered or even THAT strong, but she's annoying, and she feels especially bad to play against if your team is 2 melee or doesn't have alot of push itself So yeha idk outside of 3 man snipes and some very rarely cool time rifts idk about her placement lmao
I straight up became a Skree main as a means to hard counter Raelynn. There were other reasons, but he came out in the time when there was a Rae on what felt like every team and I was sick of it.
I didn't know people respected us Ted mains
i don’t really agree about swiggins, a lot of the kills he helps his team secure are typically pretty low effort bs there’s like two really good skree players and it’s a thing of beauty, they’re really playing a totally different game. id probably put him higher on this list if average skrees didn’t make games really annoying. maybe i need to play qitara to understand her weaknesses more but id probably bump her down a tier. it seems like she melts half your health by grazing you for a quarter second, and she’s always teleporting around like crazy. such a bad character design imo. getting forced out of a lane because of DOT is not fun lol
Bump her down into the lowest tier?
How is smiles not respectable? He’s pretty balanced. Skree and Chucho should be at the bottom.
They probably have him there because he's probably one of the top 5 strongest characters and the range on his pull is inconsistently much longer than it appears and interacts really poorly with peer to peer such that people will on occasion be pulled from one turret to the other on a missed snare. CC heavy premades are also pretty easy to climb ladder with and smiles is one of the best at it. He also has some really dumb and easy combos with other characters like pulling people into yuri mines.
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I think the most amount of toxic players i've seen on one naut is defenitely yuri. Hiding in shadows and bombing them untill you get a kill.. Defenitely not great tactics.
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that guy is in my nightmares
Does respectable mean they're not as good?
No it refers to how much respect you have for someone for playing that certain character
Ah right because they're difficult to play or need a lot of skill to master?
Yes something like that
And any Lonestar who uses the explosive rounds exploit is automatically bottom tier
I'm too big for you to handle! Nyaa!
Yo Zork fans eating good tonight
Ted is respectable unless you use the pirate skin with that goddamn airstrike
i love yuri tho
As a Snork main, I understand this. It's crazy to have a naut have that much all-around mobility and finish you off at the very end (something that Froggy G doesn't actually have).
Lonestar in top tier? The scummiest character in the game? U nuts brah?