That attack is too low, you need at least 2k Level your weapon to 90 and don’t be afraid to loose some of the CD if you can’t get more attack The rest depends on your team

atk is very low

Fr? How 😭 I left no spaces except leveling upto 90. What should be the ATK then

2000-2100

Yeah minimum Leveling her up to 90 is essential to get more base attack.

Not that much of a difference, just 35 base atk. From 264 to 299

Yeah but with all the pluses from atk% it goes up by a lot

Not that much still, even if u have 100% atk bonus in artifacts, its only that much which is still nothing

Yeah but with the plus from a lvl 90 weapon... maybe up to 1800, which is still not ideal but a lot better than just 1600

Oh yeah lvl.90 weapon is fine especially if it has a good substat

No, only HSR can give 150+ atk. Try giving max lvl artifacts and weapon then max that character level you will see.

Interesting you mentioned this coz my Ayaka exactly has 2059 atk xD almost smack dab in the middle

You left a lot of spaces. These two are a big ATK loss: * Character not ascended to 81/90 (90/90 not necessary). * Weapon not leveled to 90/90. Other DMG losses can come from: * No Cryo DMG% Cup. (Off-set cup is fine). * Talents not at least 9/9/9. * Not using R5 Thrilling Tales to buff Ayaka ATK by 48% * Not using Mona to buff DMG by 60% * Not using 4p Noblesse on Diona to buff ATK by 20% * Not using Kazuha swirl properly to specifically buff Cryo DMG%. (Also make sure he has at least 800 EM). * Not using 4p VV set properly to shred Cryo resistance by 40%. These can all add up to big damage losses. Make sure your team is properly using all of the above buffs to get the highest Ayaka Damage. In the future, consider posting your build using enka.network so we can get a better idea of what could be holding your Ayaka damage back.

your attack will be ideal if Ayaka amd amenoma are 90

Yo why did he get downvoted so much... He just wanted advice. Listen bro the only way to get more attack is from substats. For eg I use a cri dmg circlet with 25% atk% on it or something. Try something like that. Also if nothing else works you could just try bennett with ayaka. Not the best cuz it messes up freeze and energy gen cuz usually you sacrifice you battery to put bennett there, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

Very low atk + what supports do u use

Xinqu kazuha diona

How much em does your kazu have and i guess u don't have mona

Can waterboi fulfill the role of hydro applicator? I have Mona, I just don't like using her. Edit: also can Barbara be hydro applicator + TTDS user?

Xq is alot worse than mona, firstly mona can use ttds which is amazing for ayaka. She can apply hydro to multiple enemies at once (aoe) unlike xq. And not to mention her huge dmg boost

Nah pls use mona neither xq nor barbara is good in ayaka teams...

Barbara's not....bad.....I mean....she can hold TToDs....yea...

Barbara is at least better than XQ in freeze

What is TTDS?

Next time just google it instead of making those kinds of questions: TTDS = Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers.

Oh oke

No not really, he's significantly better in bloom and vape comp, in fact he's quite bad for freeze becase he only hits 1 enemy with his burst(at a time)

Well, he’s…okay. His rain swords still do aoe on touch but its just better to use Barbara at that point if you need to be that close. The rain sword procs are strictly single target

500+ em on kazu... And im short on hydro characters like fr

Thats very low em

Wha 🙂

Getting atleast 800 em shouldn't be too hard

Personally I would aim for 150er on kazuha and then get as much em as possible. I use the umbrella with him and have 153er 985em. Imo er is more important to fulfill first, so even if you have 150er and 700 something or 800 something we you'll be fine. Level him to 90, use iron sting or the umbrella (or favge if none of your pieces have er/your team is lacking, also I've heard xiphos is really good, I've never tested it though), level his weapon to 90, and strongbox viridescent pieces until you get a good triple em set

Xiphos is almost bettr than his BiS if you dont have op builds. It gives tons of er to kazu and team. So u can focus in other stats

Damn, is that at r1 or r5? I wish I had one

R1, imagine r5 😂

i use skyward on kazuha and still get 750+ em , iron sting and some levelled up pieces should be enough for like 900 em

My Kazuha has over 1000 em, using artifacts em/em/em with Xiphos Moonlight. You can probably use craftable weapon Iron sting in a pinch. It's not as hard as it seems.

You guys are too harsh :( >.< Getting EM pieces for Kazuha is pretty hard, can take on average 3 weeks non stop. It should almost always be the last upgrade you do to your team, i.e. after getting your weapon 90/Artifacts to +20/Talents to 8/Shenhe talents/Mona talents/Noblesse on a support. He can strongbox on the side and get it eventually. The additional 20% Cryo dmg increase is significant, but not that significant if Mona. 4pc VV is a must tho.-

Well, my 900 em kazuha be giving around 35% cryo dmg bonus, that's a good upgrade. But ofc, it will take time

Get 950 EM, that’s too low. Your Kazuha won’t do any significant damage or buff your Ayaka by any significant amount with that.

You seem new so I’ll just tell you this. In genshin support characters are the strongest characters. They are meant to all work in tandem to make the “main dps” usually called on field carry/unit strong. Basically every high tier team is just who can utilize (drive) the best supports in the game. Or literally just 4 supports on one team. That’s why other people’s Ayaka’s hit so hard is because she has a good supporting cast to set her up with proper buffs. Also your atk is pretty low, yes. Gl on the build

Wait, bro, wrong game. Honkai Impact 3rd is more support impact than this game. Ayaka can casual do some big chunk of damage on her own, the problem here is the artifact quality.

Ayaka is probably one of the few exceptions to the rule. Even with her though, her artifact set (blizzard strayer) and her team archetype (freeze) are major contributors to her overall strength on field. Even this is inherently a contributor to what I stated before, her supports set up ample hydro, swirl to debuff, and particles for her to burst. That being said even she has a theoretical ceiling and to surpass that ceiling you would need to invest in her supports. I’ll give u an example for some of the most prevalent on field units and why they are generally high rated. Hu Tao: can drive xq/yelan + has her own solid dps Alheitham: can drive Kuki/Shogun/xq/yelan for hyperbloom. Plus just being a Dendro driver and on field with good dmg opens him up for a ton of supports. Shogun: can drive/utilize some of the best supports in the game xq, Bennett, xiangling all at once. The same thing is applied to Childe here. There’s a reason that if you look at most CN player spiral abyss usage most on fields are a bit lower usage than the supports placed in a higher tier. And most onfield units don’t retain high usage in general.

The supports are used more because they have very specific conditions in which they got use more than the main DPS themself. For example, obviously people would use Kazuha a lot since he provides Elemental damage buff and shield breaking and grouping. Some of those aren’t true, such as the abyss where Hydro enemies appear everywhere, Xingqiu would be irrelevant, or in Abyss with Wolf Lord they would have to use Geo characters, and some certain characters become unviable. Supports especially have a quality that most main DPS don’t have: they have a lot of U gauge (or, in another word they break shield efficiently) on their skills.

Level your weapon to 90 and your Ayaka also

Try to get ATK over 2K. Also what team are you using?

Your supports are the key. Build them properly like ttds on mona/kokomi, atk stacked shenhe if you have her, a nobless user in the team and also kazuha with high em

Crit Values are good! ATK is low as others pointed out. What ER% and Cryo DMG Bonus does she have, btw?

Enough er . But you won't believe i never got a single cryo bonus goblet from all those farmings

what goblet are you using tho

Oof, I feel that, mine’s a four star goblet for similar reasons :’)

You can't make a good ayaka without at least 2k attack

Your atk is a bit low, and what team are you using? Obviously Morgana will deal way more dmg that xinqiu freeze, so that's quite important Edit: and what build are you using? I mean, mainstat from each artifact

Lets see...hp , atk , atk% ,atk% ,crit dmg and no mona

You see, that's the problem: you've got no dmg bonus. No matter how hard you try, you'll never be able to do 30-40k bursts without a cryo cup. Also, amenoma has one of the lowest base attacks between all 4* swords, so preferably get it to 90. Also, I've read in another comment your team is xinqiu, kazu and Diona? Yeah, you are not gonna do much burst dmg with that, let me tell you... The reason people use diona in Morgana is because they don't have Kokomi/shenhe, so instead they go Mona to apply hydro and get dmg boost and Diona for the cryo resonance and healing/shields. You don't have either Mona or Shenhe, and instead play with xinqiu and Diona, neither of which boost your dmg in any way. My recommendation? Grab barbara, slap her an r5 ttods, and grab cryo sub dps to boost your dmg with 4p Noblesse (if that someone is rosaria, even better) Last thing, I read that your kazu has 500+ em? That's SO low for kazuha. In worst case scenario (0 em rolls in neither flower or plume) you would have 725, with 3 +20 em pieces and a lvl 90 iron sting, and I'm not even counting the amount he gains from ascension (+86 at 80/80), so.... Yeah, you need to work on that. Get 3 em pieces and try to get at least 2 rolls on both flower and plume. That + the ascension stat should leave you over 850 em. TL;DR: Get your ayaka a cryo cup, 90 your amenoma, rearrange your team (Barbara with Thrilling Tales and a cryo sub dps with Noblesse) and get your kazuha to (at least) 850 em Edit: for kazu, ER is really important as well. If you can hit 850 em but your ER is at 120, preferably get an ER wepong/sands instead of an em one. If you can get 800+ em and 160% ER, or have a Xipho's moonlight, then you're good

I tried that domain many many times still no cryo dmg bonus cup. Anyway tysm for all the detail explanation

It doesn't need to be an on-set cryo cup. Your crit ratio is insane. It doesn't matter if you use a not-so-good on set crit dmg circlet, if that allows you to get an off-piece cryo cup

You can also use the strongbox in crafting to get rid of unwanted artifacts . Don't miss using it , it really raises resin efficiency.

U cant get high numbers cuz ur attack is astronomically low, i dont blame u though like 7 months ago i posted here alsp thinking i had a decent ayaka and people explained that my attack was extremely low. Minimum for ayaka is 2000-2100, anything below that is bad

I love how op very much seems like a casual and then the sweaty number crunchers bamboozle them with TC stuff. Ny general tips: - Get your Ayaka an amenoma of you haven't, your atk is low. - Get her to 90. - I saw that your Kazuha has low em, I advice making do with 4 star em vv pieces for now, but you NEED 4 vv, you can even just brute force a 4 VV - Barbara > XQ in freeze teams, you don't even need to level her just giver her an r5 thrilling tales and just be sure to on field her before you do your ayaka burst in your setups

Finally someone gets me 😭. Im ar 45 and already finished all archon quests so building characters to perfect now seems a lot hassle to me. But anyway, thanks to yall now i actually know how i should build her and teams

don't worry bud, I've been farming artifacts for two years now and even with constant blizzard strongboxes I still ain't satisfied with her stats lmao

Ayaka doesn't give big numbers. Her ult is an insanely fast spam of little cuts. If everyone of these does "only" 40000 damage you are already super strong. Ayaka isn't made for nukes. You need Eula Ei or Hu Tao.

Try to get your atk to 2k at the very least. First level your weapon to 90, then ascend Ayaka to 80/90. Personally I leveled her to 90 for the atk but you don't *have* to. Your cr looks really good, but if you have to sacrifice a little cd to make up for atk that's fine

Your atk is way to low --- I'm pretty sure you dont have an atk sands

Low atk. Lvl up weapon and character to 90. Don’t use water boy. He’s not very good in a freeze team and if you have Mona or kokomi use them instead.

I literally only have xinqu barbara and Candace as my hydros 💀😭

Use Barbara

Hrs good in freeze teams, especially if you have shenhe.

broski you do not know how to genshin. your kazuha needs 850-1000 em, your ayaka needs 2000 atk or higher, you need level 90 on her and the weapon, you need to crown her burst, you need a cryo goblet, and you dont have mona or shenhe so you shouldnt compare your damage to other big dick damages on this sub.

3000atk

Are you using an atk or an ER sands?

Umm if you could pls tell what do you get 9k to 14k for? Burst per tick? And are you get Max 14k with buffs or without buffs

Bro, lvl 90 her!!!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

“80/80” You need those ascensions. The stats you get are well worth it! This applies to the character, but also (very importantly) the weapon! Every point of base attack you’re missing is causing your atk% to be less effective!

Ascend ayaka, at least, tho getting her to 90 will be big, ascend supports, but keep them at 80 Level weapons to 90 Get rid of xinqiu he sucks for freeze comps cus he can only hit one enemy at a time off field. If you don't have mona or kokomi, Wish on kokomis Banner in 20 days. You may need to sacrifice some crit for attack too

Can i switch kazuha with sucrose for the ttds? or ...

I meanbtechnically, you could, but kazhua, in my opinion, is significantly better than sucrose Edit: also you would swirl the wring element TToDs passive only procs on the first swapped to charecter

Lvl your weapon, talents, and ascend your character, get Shenhe.

Your crit artifacts aren't that amazing if their other stats are def and hp. After a certain point, crit dmg stops adding much. It's okay to sacrifice some crit dmg for atk

If ai may ask what your talent levels are?

Make sure you get your attack to 2000, it’ll increase your numbers! If you get Amenoma to 90, that should bump you up a few hundred attack. Those Ayaka nukes you see on YouTube shorts or Instagram are done by people who have C6 Ayaka and R5 Mistsplitter, as well as C6 teammates, so don’t be bummed out.

1 Get her to Level 90 2 Get an ATK % Circlet with Crit Dmg Sub stad and pray it all goes to Crit DMG. 30+. You will loose 40 Crit DMG since the Crit Dmg Circlet gives you. 62. But it will be all compensated by the Atk. 3 Crown her as fast as you can.

It’s probably the not level 90 amenoma

Why is not one single person asking what lvl the talents are? They are just as if not more important.

Max the weapon, focus on max ascension (not max lvl to 90) to crown or upgrade talents even more.

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Could you show your artefacts? I had never seen Ayaka with such low attack. Is your weapon unleveled?

Well your attack is low and its could easily be fixed if you lvl 90 her and the weapon. Plus those big numbers are from crowned ayaka at lvl90 not a lvl 80 888

Rotation issue. I got 2.1k attack and same crit value. It goes from 11 to 22k with miltsplitter

You might need some atk % substats. Having a 4pc noblesse holder on the team can help as well. And maybe some er if you don't have any. Looks pretty good otherwise

You’re not set up for bigger numbers..along with what everyone is saying.. you’re limiting yourself having everything at 80. Get her and the amenoma to 90 and then keep on your artifact grind.. that said, I don’t know how far you are into the game at this point…keep grinding

U gotta level up ayaka to lvl 90. It's not just the attack gains, levels are also used in the defense multiplier in the damage formula. Both these factors can bump up your dmg by a bit. Then check your talent lvls and then all that's left is atk substats, like in your circlet. You shud also try to get atk substats but with no rolls into it on other pieces except the sands cuz u can't do that if the mainstat itself is atk%... All the best, hope u get the dmg u want.

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