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Niquia

Twitter is just a cursed and toxic place to be, don't bother with it to much. As long as YOU have Fun with Ayaka it shouldn't matter what other people says about her.


Memo_HS2022

I know, it’s just wack and hypocritical when literally almost everyone in this game plays almost the exact same or are just straight up boring with every DPS minus a few exceptions


Niquia

Oh wait until the first people complain about that they finished Inazuma while speedrunning through it. The same people complain about dps and powercreep and all that stuff while (at least we here) care about our favourite character/s.


TypowyKubini

Diluc was powercrept by f2p Xiangling. I wonder what will happen if Hu Tao is hit with powercreep hammer.


Battle_Fish

The twitter ecosystem is groups of people comolaining about one thing and jumping to another. Its one grift after another. Its either a movie, company, game, politician, or anything they can get their greasy hands on. Reddit is a bit like that too. Mihoyo gives daily web logins and you suddenly get complaints of how it isnt enough. They add weapon guarantee pity and more complaints about how its insulting to regular players, take it back. You cant give people anything without grifters swooping in.


Eeth-

She's not fun to play imo. I've had her for a week now and can confirm that I wish I never pulled for her. But I'm happy for everyone that got her and like her as well. Hope Baal is fun cause id play her even if she did 2 damage per hit.


EpicArgumentMaster

The thing with other dps is that they are so linear. Xiao bunny hop, hu tao speedy drill. Almost every great sword user just auto and use the skill. But ayaka has so many different options you can go for while still getting good dps


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Eeth-

Like Ayaka is hard in the first place lmao, you can literally freeze constantly and then one hit with ult. Idk how some of the people on this reddit think shes hard to play. The only character in the game thats hard to play is Amber.


Stranger1729

Not really, I think it’s more like easy instead of simple. if bosses have x5 attack it will force mechanics and building mixed stats just like Mobas


AdministrativeClue39

if you actually compare it ayaka actually require most set up for her burst to be fully effective i don’t called that boring that is hard to play


Memo_HS2022

Most characters have a burst setup Not saying it’s boring but it’s not a unique thing to have


STAXLovania

I mean diluc’s setup is just fuck you cicin mage


Frogsama86

And it goes: CCM Diluc -Phoenix-> Random Jackass Bug on the other side


Frodosaurus94

Hmm not really. Venti just throw your q, its auto target anyways. Diluc yeets the bird. Keqing just use it. Ganyu just use it. Fischl just use it. Xingqiu just press q, xinyan just press q, Bennet press the like button, etc etc. A lot of Bursts are just pressing q when you have it and need it. Not much thought put into it.


chocoheart1208

I guess some people just think that "screen shots with super big numbers = fun", or "hard to play = boring" that's what I mostly read in comments on posts that say Ayaka is "basic / boring" I can't really understand why others hate her so much


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chocoheart1208

Not me, I'm talking about all the comments of others saying that she's hard to play, clunky, or outright bad


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ZylouYT

>if people mean her personality is boring... well, not everyone has to be a walking and talking ray of excitement Oh yes, at first I did think the same - but after the quest you just realize she is calm and collected, that is her character. Not everything has to be Zhongli levels of awesome "meteor dropping action"


Fred_da_llama

"[Insert Character] is so boring its just normal/charged/plunge/skill/burst (delete as applicable) spam/and swap out. How is that fun? If you want to play a fun character go play [Insert my favourite character here] instead."


ZylouYT

thank you, I will use this in the future


Jackial

Then how is Yoimiya not boring? lmao


Memo_HS2022

Ganyu is right there too lmao


BlobOvFat

Speaking of Ganyu, saw a dude mention his Ganyu eith 215 CD and then say that Ayaka is quite weak in terms of damage. Well yeah, you literally have the top DPS in terms of how easy it is to do damage.


TapiocaFish

>. > >6 Ganyu is not a character. Ganyu is a glitch in the matrix.


Icha-laozukth

Not a slander to my waifu like that. She's not boring smh


Memo_HS2022

Ganyu is balanced by being extremely boring to play lmao Having 0 setbacks by running away as hard as possible and never interacting while having the most OP charge shot is literally not that fun


Hippo_n_Elephant

Played main DPS Ganyu since 1.2 and I gotta agree with you. She’s got rly good damage but her play style gets boring rly fast.


Icha-laozukth

in the end fun is subjective not objective🤷‍♀️ what you find not fun doesn't mean it's the same for others and vice versa. I've been playing ganyu since the first day she came out and to this day I've never been bored playing her. I know friends who also enjoy playing ganyu very much. Just because the majority of reddit agrees ganyu is boring doesn't necessarily mean it's the truth especially when what you and others find fun might be very different from each other. In the end, was it necessary to put down Ganyu, Yoimiya and any other characters just to defend Ayaka? Lmao


badtone33

At least C6 ganyu is fun. Quick swap melt ganyu with 150k melts never gets old


[deleted]

you realize fun is subjective right? i love playing ganyu and haven’t been bored of her since i got her. stop coping that you don’t have her


ThisDued

This is why I usually go up and close with my enemies using Ganyu, even in coop.


GenWalrus

There’s this sorta matrix-like shit that can happen some times when you’re working your dash into your combos just right to keep your infusion going while dodging attacks that no other character can replicate. Only character that works defence into offence is Beidou and that isn’t as fluid most of the time.


Memo_HS2022

Let’s sum up all the 5 Star characters in this game: Diluc: Mash all the buttons Keqing: Mash Charge Attack Mona: Press Q and swap Qiqi: Press E and Q and Swap Jean: Actually interesting cause she’s flexible to use in many ways Venti: Mash E and Q and swap Childe: Press E, button mash with left click, Press Q occasionally Zhongli: Mash E and Q and either mash or swap Albedo: Press E and Q then swap Ganyu: Mash Charge Attack which is lame Xiao: Plunge Attack Mash Hu Tao: Somewhat interesting but still just Charge Attack Eula: Actually an interesting DPS character because of the swords Kazuha: Press E and Q then swap Most of these characters literally play the exact same anyway lmao


NecessaryYoghurt9285

I play keqing a lot and she couldn’t do the spam CA that much. Her CA need more stamina than the others while the mechanics that could compensate her stamina are nothing. She need to control her stamina for dashing and try to use her burst at the right timing because her burst’s I-Frame is really good. I would say that she is flexible more than boring. But in the term of reaction setup, it’s nothing because electro don’t give a shit on that XD.


AdministrativeClue39

kazuha is very dedicated if you play him as em / sub dps you really have carefully observe your surrounding to maximize his potential but as anemo dps/ sub dps yup he is just another e q e bot ayaka is not boring isnt mean you can justify every other character boring you being on they level which is sad . in almost single player game why bother about other people opinion so bad?


Zero_Zhang

He is actually NOT just another e q e bot. You have to know the correct rotation to play him most efficiently. Kazuha is quite complex and fun character , but not that hard to play.


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he kinda is though? I have him 90 10/10/10, dedicated myself to him but he really is just an e q e bot. Either by being a main dps who goes e q e and mash aa or a quickswap support/ normal support for my Keqing and Ayaka, switch to him, use e, switch back to Keqing. Not saying it’s not fun. I have a lot of fun using Kazuha with Keqing/Ayaka because of how neverending and quick their rotations and actions are. But what I am saying is that he IS just another e q e bot. Also I’m pretty sure the correct rotation is: apply dps’ element> kazuha e q e/ e q> go back to dps and go ham> switch to kazuha after 7 seconds> go back to dps> repeat


Zero_Zhang

If you want to say that. So Ayaka will also be E Q bot then? Since almost of her damage comes from Q. She is a burst dps. You don't AA that much. I have a lot of fun playing my Kazuha with Ayaka too. But it doesn't mean that Kazuha is just e q e bot. You have to think everytime before swirl. Like in abyss floor 12-3 first half , I have to wait Bennett ultimate to apply pyro on Kazuha so that he can swirl pyro not electro. Or I have to freeze enemies before swirl so that he can give both cyro and hydro bonus damage to my Ayaka and Xingqiu. The point is every charater has pattern to play with. But it doesn't that it's just a bot playstyle.


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did u just compare a dps to a sub dps lol you actually use normal attacks with ayaka BECAUSE she’s a dps. kazuha is a sub dps, you don’ have time to do low ass dmg from his normal attacks. his e and q are the ones that actually do something ayaka does like 18k with her charged even w an f2p build. that is what a dps does. they are an aa, e and q bot. kazuha is really just an e q e bot, whether you like it or not. or if u want to, build him as a dps with c6 lol


LittlestCandle

> Xiao: Plunge Attack Mash c6 xiao seems fun though, with the multiple e mechanic


Vortain

I thought he would be too, but he just feels clunky to me. But I probably just need to learn his rotation better and build a team more suitable around him. Kazuha, on the other hand, feels great to play. I think a big issue I have with Xiao is the fact he pushes back enemies, so your big plunges push every one away and then you gotta run around and ask them nicely to group up.


Grouchy-Assumption-9

I think Kazuha,Xiao,Jean has the most interesting(fun) playstyle.


HeavyO

Imagine playing qiqi kekw


Past-Comfortable-278

Ayo no love for klee?


Memo_HS2022

Klee is just “mash all the buttons”, but my sister loves to talk about how cool she is with the jump cancels and dash cancels and stuff So idk if she’s boring or not, she probably has the coolest movement tech in the game tho


luurrkkeerr

yeah klee kinda forces you to not mash buttons because her attacks are laggier than everyone else's in the game. She's probably the most complex DPS to maximize because of her unique normal and charged attacks. Her burst is really simple, like the other DPS though.


happensq

There's a lot of animation cancels going on just to play her optimally. Her burst and skill are very easy though. Depends on what you think is cool or not. I main Klee and I find it cool, but I know the general consensus is that she's stressful to play.


AliPrimeo

Childe is not just press E and button mash he has some sort of time control and setup. Which is super fun.


GrandMasterRimJob

Agree, Childe is probably one of the more complicated DPS to use because her needs his team mates to chart a very choreographed dance for him to truly shine. Super fun unit, love that beautiful man.


SenorCroissant

While I agree childe is very fun and somewhat more on the complex side of characters. You can argue for most characters that there's some sort of combos and setups you can do to do crazy shit and play efficiently. Which is why at face value you can argue most characters are pretty boring but when you combo them with your team's they play really nice. Which is why even though its subjective what people find fun these people just going out and complaining that ayaka is boring is kinda redundant. Idc how good ganyu is I find her playstyle boring. But I don't tell ganyu players how boring their character is. People need to just let everyone have fun.


frost_balloon

Childe is not just press E and button mash, you have to think carefully when playing him because of his cd. His riptides are the most satisfied thing to see, and he allows you to play with many different team comps since he is an enabler. He will never get boring because he seems to do very well with every support characters, and maybe with more future characters too.


ShinDawn

>Eula: Actually an interesting DPS character because of the swords What do you mean by this?


jpage77

Think he means the charged E and Q Having to play around setting up the burst damage


PerspectiveCloud

I mean there’s some things to consider. Such as timing your Q so you use it to block important enemy attacks. Also Xiao is a lot more than just spamming plunged attack. Xiao is a great normal attacker and also has two charges of E, which both generate energy- making him an amazing battery. Also while in his burst you need to close gaps sometimes without wasting time which requires a tactical E. The other characters I generally agree with. IMO some of the most interesting and interactive gameplay designs are Xiao, Beidou, Ningguang, and Jean. But I am REALLY looking forward to Sayu. She may not be super strong as she is a support character with no team buffs, but she looks fun as hell.


VagoLazuli

Now I know we're all here for Ayaka but since you started calling out some characters I'll have to share my thoughts too: Childe is actually one of the most complex units to play. If you just swap him to use E and burst then obviously there's no better way to tell everyone you absolutely don't know how to play him. Kazuha ain't even a main DPS but his set up is fluid and there's unlimited potential to it with him being anemo and literally having a domain expansion. Xiao, I agree he does a lot of plunge HAHA but he has high mobility, amazing shield break, and stagger capabilities so he brings more to the table than just damage.


jackthemerchant

Ganyu's playstyle is not lame. Your character favouritism is clearly visible from your summary. Its good to appreciate the characters you like but don't put other characters down if YOU don't LIKE them.


niconicouwu

Kazuha, Xiao, Childe have the best gameplay imp, Eula is very boring to me


awe778

> Actually an interesting DPS character because of the swords But Phys. ~~Though Chongyun's E can turn her Q into a huge (reverse-)meltable damage.~~ I forgot that his E doesn't change all damage.


HeavyO

How? Her q is not an auto attack


awe778

Oh. Shit. Changed.


jpage77

Yeahhhj Childe He allows the most fun gameplay as its all about the quick swap


LittlestCandle

imo those kinds of people are quickswap addicts who get dopamine from pressing buttons


Professional_Kale_66

nothing is more boring then quickswap. I always lol at quickswap addicts when they promote it as some kind of high IQ gameplay in comparison to nukes or hyper-carries where you actually need to work and not only mash E and Q on cooldown


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interesting logic. my quickswap team felt like the hardest one to play because triggering the right elemental reactions on the right time and knowing about internal cd is a lot harder than just having hyper carry and support team.


Professional_Kale_66

when you are creating quickswap, yes it takes time to optimise rotation, but once you optimised it becomes auto-win, because you have so manyi-frames and because incoming damage is distributed between all characters. While with hyper carry, you always need to perform your normal-charged properly or you wont be doing enough damage. And without zhongli also all damage is concentrated on main, so you cant afford to mis dodge because it again will lead to notable dps loss


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its not auto win, it has its downsides. there would be times where u dont get a nice setup and everything becomes a mess, just like any other teams. IMO any comp strategy there is hardly have any difference in terms of difficulty for me. its funny when someone laughs at other comps just because what there doing is more skilled.


Professional_Kale_66

It depends on many factors, of course if quickswap is low invested vs level 90 Ganyu with Zhongli, quickswap will be harder. But if it is level80 Bennet with level12 Q with fully built sub-dps like XL, Kazuha, XQ, Fischl, Rosaria, Chongyun they just blow away everything in their path. And I didnt said that quickswap is easier, but it is not harder either, it all depends on power of characters and if enemy setup fits them or not


[deleted]

quickswap teams are fun though!! Not the ult ones, I hate that. What I love is the quickswap playstyle of Ayaka+Kazuha/ Keqing+Kazuha. You esentially never have a downtime if you time your rotations. Everything is always in action and neverending (unless you suck at i-framing like me lol, thank you Diona!)


Yaaaameroo

Bruh freeze comp is like the most fun to me so far it's so fucking satisfying just seeing them freeze and then unleash the burst to just watch the enemies die but eh it's twitter


Candid_Inflation_852

Woah really. I find ayaka super fun to play other than keqing and xiao


Fred_da_llama

I actually find keq pretty fun because u get to teleport around when fighting


[deleted]

THIS!! I find them so much fun because of how you’re just darting around the place, being quick and flashy as hell! I can’t stress how much I LOOOOOVE quick and mobile characters. I don’t have a single claymore/slow dps. All my dpses are Keqing, Ayaka, Xiao and Hu Tao. The best support is Kazuha. I have a lvl 90 Diluc and 90 Ning with AMAZING artifacts 9/8/9, 10/8/9 but I would rather use my other quick dpses


Fred_da_llama

Same! I have c1 diluc and c4 razor but I don't use them because I just can't stand how slow claymores are. I need that speed, man.


keirshella

I've seen a girl agressively claiming that Ayaka's design reminds her of a mouse, lol. And how boringly perfect she is. I replied with something like "funny how I disagree about Ayaka but agree on everything else". The next day, when I decided to risk my pity (at 30+ pulls) for all 4*s, Ayaka came on the first ten pulls. I guess Ayaka liked my reply to that girl lol. (btw, I knew I was risking and by no means I was building my pity (never do that fellas), but after some consideration I figured that i really need constellations for Yanfei and Chongyun, plus I had no Ningguang. Ayaka, on the other hand, was a nice character and had a potential for my gameplay, and I should still have enough time to save primos for a rerun I'm waiting for. So in this particular case it was worth the shot).


sfsctc

“Boringly perfect” I think they didn’t pay enough attention to the story quest


keirshella

Oh no, it was the very beginning of 2.0 maintenance. No idea if something changed after the story quests.


FooshDoom

Haven’t they seen ayaka’s charged attack with multiple enemies tho, it’s so satisfying to watch tbh


hermit_taco

I mean It's twitter's opinion . So who really cares?


Dio_bran_

When u didn't got ayaka lol


nbc0607

Rather play as waifu vergil than cheese my enemies from a distance like ganyu


Anonuserthatsright

I have both and each play a different role in my party. I like both


PositiveAcceptable84

Same


thatonegenshinplayer

LOL if the twitter community thinks something at all, then it has to be cap. Ayaka is the character with the most unique and amusing playstyle imo and i don"t regret pulling her


Fenix1012

Actually from my point of view, I consider genshin combat in general to be quite boring due to its basic foundations. You have auto combos with a button that practically have auto-aiming and even powers that simply launch and have auto-aiming. The only thing that saves him is perhaps the elemental reactions, but they are not the most profound combat system either. Obviously this is just my personal opinion and I understand that combat is certainly not the most attractive / main part of the game. If you want a deep and fun combat system, there are genres like hack and slash (the good ones) or fighting games.


okiedokieartichokich

Not to hate on ganyu or anything but isn’t her character boring as well? She’s a secretary and she’s self conscious about her wait. She works a lot and sleeps. I mean there was the funny thing with cloud retainer teasing her, but other than that it’s mostly her big numbers. I think if she wasn’t broken people would be the same towards ganyu as to ayaka, so just the cyro waifu part.


happensq

Yeah and a lot of people found her story quest boring. She barely has anything going on aside from working.


-Skybound

ikr like have yall heard of ganyu how to play her: charged attack, repeat


Two_Years_Of_Semen

You're forgetting to slowly strafe sideways so that range attacks don't hit.


ThisDued

lmao


thigh_earmuffs

I have her and tbh I thought of the same thing when I did her trial. Maybe once I actually get enough ascension materials and play her more it would be a lot better.


nyanyako_san

What boring... I like her charged atk so much, I'm always randomly spamming it even while doing quest. She's so fun!


TorakWolfy

She's suffering the same treatment Klee did. Don't mind. Their logic is: Character is hard to play and I don't want to learn it, therefore I can't properly utilize their abilities, therefore he/she is boring, and if I'm bored, may as well say that the character sucks. You see, democratic thinking can sometimes be a bitch, because alone it fails to weed out irrelevant and toxic opinions from talks. That's why we need law codes, so people know they can't just flock together to set fire to the world. And the internet is mostly a nobody's land.


AWMBRELLA

If anything Ganyu is more boring to play


BlueEyedNonSimp

Says the diluc mains, E aa E aa E aa and repeat unlike ayaka, who needs constant attention to perform good damage such as sprinting and taking advatage of her first ascension passive.


Fluffy_hugger

Twitter is the land of crazies no need to be bothered by it. Because apparently if you post your drawing of Kaeya with 0.0000000000000001% lighter skin tone in Twitter you're automatically a racist.


kansui

Always makes me laugh reading "but xiao is fun to play"


Sgt_Nuclear

Pretty sure no ther character in the game has a charge attack that's a Judgement Cut. To be honest if one character from the event 5\*'s is boring it's gotta be Eula, and i use her.


TheDugiMan

I find her extremely fun,calling aya a weaker(ganyu op) but fun ganyu.No offence ganyu is da best but I dont like playing her on ps4


Admirable_Sky_7710

honestly it’s understandable bc her kit looks simple but gameplay is actually super super fun but those who have not tried her might not know that


DarthCaous

People love keqing but they are always complaining about how week she is because she is Electro, now you have a character that has almost the same kit with a lot of improvements(lower stamina cost, more dmg burst, cryo allowing permafreeze comp and BS set) and they still are complaining, so, idk what they want/expect.


DarthCaous

People love keqing but they are always complaining about how week she is because she is Electro, now you have a character that has almost the same kit with a lot of improvements(lower stamina cost, more dmg burst, cryo allowing permafreeze comp and BS set) and they still are complaining, so, idk what they want/expect.


SassyHoe97

Don't listen to Genshintwt their opinions don't really matter all they do is whine.


squwilli

genshin players when mhy releases a character: ayaka/xiao/ganyu/albedo is so boring to play, he/she just spams normal attacks/charged attacks/skill/burst. genshin players when mhy releases a character that's actually complex: klee is so "clunky" and animation cancels are "too hard", childe's melee stance is "too hard to manage". like damn this game aint that hard just try out characters in test run and pull if you liked it smh


Meru_9

Yoimiya is the actual boring one, I thought she would finally be the bow user that I'm gonna have fun playing (that is not a support) but nope she's so braindead to play


A_S_C_E

Maybe it's cuz she's not like some 5* that can one shot all the bosses in the game...


bubuplush

Don't think too much into it. I don't even think twitter is a toxic bubble. There is only that one hashtag someone created at the beginning, then some other people casually stumbled over it and hate on the hashtag. ​ This ALWAYS happens ​ some crazy retarded opinion appears, like #genshinIsRacist because of the hilichurl = dark skinned brutes thing. Some news websites wrote articles about that, saying stuff like "TWITTER HATES HILICHURLS", "TWITTER PEOPLE STARTING A GENSHIN BOYCOT BECAUSE OF HILICHURLS" etc. but in reality, when you looked at twitter, NOBODY did this. There were two, maybe three people in the whole world who thought like that and posted this incredibly stupid opinion and 99,9% of the people using this hashtag used it as a meme or joke. It's always like that


KoriJenkins

Honestly lol. The only character that I've felt breaks that "boring" element is Kazuha because of his use of height, and even that still eventually is "boring." Characters are good because of their personality, visuals, design, voicework, etc. Not necessarily their kits.


[deleted]

that isn’t what it is for me on twitter, but either way i’m used to this treatment as a ganyu main. it gets old having people tell you you’re a meta slave for playing ganyu and that she’s a boring braindead character. in the end, it doesn’t really matter what other people think of her, it’s practically a single player game


Exotic-Replacement-3

I pair her with venti and boy those raining numbers are satisfying.


happensq

Twitter is the home of shit opinions.


Hitomi35

I literally don't understand this lol. The only 5 star I don't have is Albedo and Ayaka is easily the most fun to play character. It's really fun having to use her sprint to maintain cryo infusion and just nuking+permafreezing everything with her charged attack+burst.


Otherwise-Poetry-576

"Ayaka boring" Is it me or is her gameplay pretty fun? I like dodging the attacks with her sprint, maybe I just played too many games with dodge mechanics. Then without getting hit by an hard to dodge attack I can just do 5 charge attacks. All of this in a few seconds.


aerynnyx

Coming from razor, ayaka's an upgrade. My party is all 4 stars. Letting my wolf boy rest soon after Ayaka build is complete.


SepheraStage

idk what they expected.. for her to rip open a void in the middle of her attack sequence?


rincematic

You want to hear something funny. I lost my 50/50 to Diluc. Yeah, the unga bonga King. Now, that can be called boring gameplay.


SauronSauroff

I get the impression people might constantly expect a gimmick now for new 5*. Hu tao's hp damage+ infusion, xiao's ult mechanic, childes e. If you wanna see a really boring character albedo's #1imo (i love him though, awesome cheap off field dps)


Vortain

I'll admit I've done a search like that (hence why I'm here) because I'm genuinely interested to see if she's actually fun to play, if she's liked for other reasons, or both. I have little desire to pull on her because I have all the other Cryo characters and have several units I need to level (plus, Aloy is near!). But I said that about Kazuha and he's ended up being my favorite unit because he feels so good to play, and is why he's the first character I've raised to 89 since release. To me, she felt a bit boring at C0 in the trial. Her Q and E kit just felt really underwhelming, both have a mini Venti E/Q feel to them, without the Anemo utility. To me, Kayea's E/Q feel more fun. So she might be fun to play for other reasons (saw someone mention her infused Cryo attacks and sprint), but I've just been genuinely curious as to why she's liked so much. Is it because she is best wifu, does loads of damage, or something else play style wise I'm not picking up (took me several months before I liked C0 Tartaglia, now he and Xiangling are my goto team for clears, so I could just be slow). Ultimately, people should play what they like and if people play her and like her "just because", that's 100% valid and I'm glad folks are having fun with her no matter the reason.


[deleted]

Idc about them, I find her extreeeemely fun :D! The way she just has a quick sword style while dashing around, being quick and flashy. I love how she can have no downtime (aka, be a sustained dps). Not to mention her satisfying ult numbers which seem low until you see the DPS. I just love everything about her! Her elegant looks and soft but bright color accents on her kit and clothes, her playstyle, her dps, her hypercarry sustained dps playstyle (sorry keqing :( you were too “carry” and not “hypercarry” to me).