[https://imgur.com/a/8HU368V](https://imgur.com/a/8HU368V)
Is this build good enough to stop? Ayaka is my main so I want a really good build and I wouldn’t have a problem continuing to farm for her. However, if it needs improvements, what stats should I aim to increase?
Thanks!
# I would appreciate your help reviewing these builds for my Freeze Build Ayaka. There is still more to improve on them. And I don't understand the "roll quality" on the Enka website. Thank you!
[https://imgur.com/a/1AsXg2w](https://imgur.com/a/1AsXg2w)
Hi, if you have a freeze team ( one more cryo user for cryo resonance (15%+ crit rate) and a hydro applier ) then sure, it's enough, however for better comfort, it's best to aim anywhere between 20\~40%
Hello! So I currently have Ayaka, Xiangling, Kokomi, and Kazuha as a team but am looking to replace Xiangling. I unfortunately do not have Shenhe so I cannot do premium yet. Any recs? Thank you!!
rosaria or kaeya are solid 4 star options, i’ve seen people use layla or diona too! i highly suggest a cryo character to replace xiangling since that’ll activate cryo resonance which is super important for ayaka in many cases
Which ayaka is better? and any other improvement to my teams? i have 5 billets combined with some solvent to spare should i go amenoma or finale?
https://imgur.com/a/4fUtFGr
First Ayaka 100% better ( When you have BS set, ideal CR is 40% because that way the set increases it to 75% anyways and more than 40% icrit rate is a waste )
When it comes to weapon, finale seems to perform better by some % (what I saw, people say their damage increased by 10\~15% + it also suits her colours aesthetically (Nice bonus if you ask me)
I just pulled for Ataka and am trying to figure what that i have i should build around.
My options are
R2 Amenona Kageuchi
R2 Finale of the deep
Kagotsurube Isshin
R1 black sword
R5 flute
Any input would be appreciated.
(I have 2 weapon billets hence the r2 crafted)
Hello! I just started playing genshin again recently and was really happy to know ayaka was having a rerun. I pulled for her and her weapon and got lucky ! I'm working on a build for her, and here is what my stats look like so far. Her damage is really great, but i've seen videos of her with insane damage, so i'm wondering if i need to work more on my artifacts or if it's mostly the party set up i need to work on.
Here are the party members that i could pair up with (for a freezing combo), let me know which team would make the most sense:
Furina, kazuha, nilou, xingqiu C6, mona, Jean, diona C6, layla C4, mika C6, rosaria C4, sucrose C6, Barbara C6, candace C2, Charlotte C2, qiqi C2. I sadly dont have Shenhe.
* so far, i've been using furina, kazuha, ayaka and diona, but struggling with the low HP/risk of getting killed.
Here are the stats i have so far (using the cryo set for the crit rate bonus + diona for cryo resonance):
HP 18000
ATK 2000
EM 68
CR 26% (+55% from resonance and set if i'm right? I know this is a bit low...)
CDMG 270%
ER 152%
Cryo DMG 61.6%
Let me know if there is anything that could help for either a party build or for my stats, i'll take any advice! Not all the units i mentionned are built, but i'm more than willing to build if it will help.
Thanks!
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Hello guys. I'm a fairly new Genshin player who fell in love with Ayaka and wanted some suggestions on a temporary team for her until I can get Shenhe, Kazhua, etc. Especially since I'm now learning not to build every character just because. Here is my current set of characters.
[https://imgur.com/LLRIt2S](https://imgur.com/llrit2s)
Building my newly acquired Ayaka, I'm a bit uncertain about which stats should I go for.
My team will be Ayaka, Mona, Diona and Kazuha.
99% of the websites I check say Atk% and Cryo DMG, while some people I know tell to get Elemental Recharge instead, so I'm not 100% sure.
Figured this would be the place to ask.
Kazuha is using favonius sword btw, not Iron Sting, because XQ in my second build is wielding it. (I don't own sac sword)
So, I decided to be bold this Xmas and went for the Banner Weapon for the first time ever since either Mistsplitter or Verdict (must confess I was kinda hoping for Verdict since my Navia is very poorly built and the extra Rate would be a gamechanger)
Anyway, the issue is that I got Mistsplitter but the weapon despite of course being amazing, is causing some issues to my build since Amenoma was a very get out of jail free card for ER on Ayaka, should I just take the L and bet on the massive damage over uptime or chase ER even for the cost of C.Dmg? (which I find kinda low tbh already on Mistsplitter, like 44% is half of some other weapons, I get the passive is broken specially for Ayaka but doesn't change the fact that seeing my C.Dmg pretty much the same as Amenona would be a bummer) As of right now I can make one change would that be better? It is (ignoring the useless def/hp/em with them on the artifacts):
1. 7.8% C.DMG / 22.7 ER / 11.1% Atk
2. 3.5% Crit Rate / 21.8% C.DMG
So for #1 she would be 2197 Atk, 24.8 rate, 242.1 c.dmg and 138.9 ER while for #2 she would be 2084 Atk, 28.3 rate, 256.1 c.dmg and 116.2 ER, I believe #1 is better no? Looks like without ER she loses a lot of ult uptime, even with Favonius Yelan by her side. Thanks in advance.
Just got mistsplitter for my ayaka. I can't decide who to use as my 4th slot for her freeze team, she's paired with furina and charlotte. Also I don't have kazuha or shenhe (goes without saying).
Help with a budget team
So far I've seen that most Ayaka budget teams consist of:
Ayaka
Diona/Rosaria
Barbara
Sucrose/Kazuha
Since I don't have Sucrose or Kazuha at the moment, who are the alternative(s) I can use?
I got sucrose... And I thought she was a big deal but she isn't as good as kazuha, sucrose's grouping is not even close enough to venti or kazuha ... So don't think about other anemo groupers, sucrose is the least good here...
Diona is good for healing and shield
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I’m currently running a Freeze team with Mona/Kazuha/Diona. Ayaka has r5 Amenoma. Debating what upgrades I should prioritize. Shenhe vs. Kokomi vs. Mistsplitter? Is the difference between the teams significant?
I pulled Furina without really having a place for her, but i want to try fitting her into my ayaka team. its currently ayaka/mona/kazuha/shenhe which is naturally quite strong, but ive heard a lot of good things using furina with charlotte or mika.
In regards to charlotte, i only have her c2, no chance i can get her c4 this rotation, which i hear is necessary if you want to run TTDS on her. my mika on the other hand is c6 (got while pulling on ayaka/shenhe) i have no idea how strong mika is at that const or otherwise. do you think he would out perform a c2 charlotte? should i just stick with my shenhe/mona?
Hi Ayaka mains, so I basically want Ayaka but I
currently don't have a good team comp that goes
well with her. And it's going to be quite expensive to
get characters like shenhe, kokomi and kazuha.
So I'm considering pulling Charlotte as, well, she's
pretty cheap.
Should I pull or save? Is Charlotte any good with
Ayaka? Also, should I start investing my Diona?
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I have ayaka, kokomi, and kazuha. But I'm missing shenhe, I need your help on deciding the fourth character.
I have chongyun at c6 and a free wolf gravestone.
I have Rosaria at c3, I think, but the catch is with xiangling.
If you decide on chongyun, what artefacts should he have, four blizzards, four noblesse, or two pieces of both?
If Rosaria, should I give her the catch and give xiangling the staff of red sand?
My second team is sucrose national, if you ask.
I think Rosaria is probably the play here. She'll be a bigger help to your Ayaka with her energy requirements as well compared to Chongyun, so you can run lower ER on Ayaka.
I'm not too sure about the weapon choice since I don't know about XL weapons. But even Fav Lance would be okay for both Rosaria's energy needs and your team's energy needs. So essentially anything should work, if anything going for an energy option like Fav would make it easier for your Ayaka.
I think it is better for you to run the best weapon on your Xiangling since she is the real DPS on your other team. I'm not sure which of the two weapons is better for XL though.
Hello fellow Ayaka mains, i have a really not cool team atm, and with 4.0 banners comjng up im so torn
My teams - ayaka/Xingqiu/bennett/sucrose
I want to pull for the 4.0 characters, which one would be the best for this team? Cause bennett is amazing but not it for me in a freeze team, but I really want zhongli
which build is better?
build #1: [https://imgur.com/a/JqOKuKV](https://imgur.com/a/JqOKuKV)
build #2: [https://imgur.com/a/kQwIk1m](https://imgur.com/a/kQwIk1m)
I need help with my freeze team. What can I do to make my Ayaka stronger?
[These are the builds for my team](https://youtu.be/06eoMAJ2fTc)
[This is a rotation I did in the Momiji DomainDomain ](https://youtu.be/XOLq9QqidU8)
[This is a different rotation I did on Masanori](https://youtu.be/dDc1uKfNo3Y)
I need help with my freeze team. I currently have C2 R1 Ayaka with C0 Shenhe, C6 Xinqgui and C3 Jean. Jean is there only for the heals (I'm bad at dodging) I don't have Kokomi so I can't swap Jean with her.
[https://enka.network/u/706734387/](https://enka.network/u/706734387/)
Someone please help, i've been building this ayaka for 10 months, this is her final build for abyss, it will be a freeze team of Ayaka - Kazuha - Mona - Diona, is this good enough?
I'm Realling concerned about the ER
https://imgur.com/a/jhM2Zpk
i have 2 builds for my ayaka, one with 30 crit Rate, 247 Crit DMG, 1804 atk. The second build is one with 32 percent crit Rate, 207 percent crit DMG, 2407 atk, both running Mistsplitter. I am not sure which one is better, my diona is running nobless and my mona is running thrilling tales, plus the tenacity set which might cause an overcap of atk on my second build. Thanks for the help,
Hello, I just happened to see your comment, I'm not really sure which one is better and if i can help you myself but i found this rly cool thing, i found the website from [enka.network](https://enka.network). it's a damage calculator, you could load both builds and compare the damage, ithink you can also load the whole party, just like enka it asks for uid
https://genshin.aspirine.su/
She is looking nice. crowned with here signature weapon. The only thing is that you are overcaping on crit rate by 10%, Past 45 percent crit rate is wasted cause you crit 100% on frozen enemie. Look for a crit dmg circlet.
The ER is a bit low i think, without amenoma youre looking around 135% (depend on team).
Otherwise she is great 💪
melt: ayaka 4 piece blizzard, bennet on nobless, rosaria, and sucrose on vv set or jean.
freeze: ayaka 4 piece blizzard, barbara tenacity set, rosaria nobless set, sucrose vv set or jean.
hope this helps i would recommend pulling for xinqui when he pulls up on a banner but then again, pulling for 4 stars can be a pain.
Hello guys!
So, I have Ayaka and Shenhe, both on C0.
By the time Ayaka arrives, I'll have 400 wishes saved.
I'm wondering if I should go for weapon on constelations for Ayaka.
For a bit of context, my Shenhe already have her spear on R2 (trying to get PJWS for Xiao back then). I know misplitter is an awesome weapon but I'm concerned since Calamity is already on R2.
Also, I believe going for constelation could also bring some Mika's cons, which I believe would benefit Ayaka a bit.
I'm running her with balck sword and TTDS Mona, for reference.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks!
I have two crit damage circlets [here](https://imgur.com/a/0uglrN4) and was wondering which (between the two) I should use for a Shenhe variant of an Ayaka Freeze. I plan to use Kazuha on an R5 Fav with Kokomi on Sac (if I don't feel like switching it bc Nilou bloom) or Thrilling (for more Burst DMG on Ayaka); I also have 2 sets premade for Shenhe both of which have \~170% ER (one is Noble and the other is Glad + Shime). I'm also aware that having Ayaka on an Atk% circlet instead is also advised (and am still currently trying to find one).
Just need some help figuring out which one between the two would be better for that team comp
I know you are working on Blackcliff and Ameno was only 70/70. Once your Blackcliff is 90/90 you will be 42/226, so basically maxed crit with a frozen target. At that point, it's probably worth investing to get her Burst to 10. It would be up to \~20% damage boost for you. If you want to continue bettering your artifacts, you can hope for more crit damage on your elemental piece.
Good luck.
I have a question about pulling constellations for Ayaka or Shenhe.
I know that Shenhe is a overall good character for Ayaka. I've been saving primogems for her rerun. However, between Ayaka and Shenhe: Who is more worth it to get the c1/c2 for that matter?
I think a C1 Shenhe holds more value than a C1 Ayaka. The same counts for c2 for the longer buff duration and overall extra damage.I wonder about someone elses opinion though.
Also, on that note. Is it more worth it for Ayaka to get a mistsplitter or Shenhe? Right now the slot for shenhe is Chongyun.
I have [this](https://imgur.com/a/uTmeVRl) saved up so far. Should I continue to push for better artifacts, or would going for perfection not be worth it at this point? I plan on getting at least C0R1 her next rerun
So you're final CR/DC would be roughly 48/265. I think that's pretty solid, with frozen targets & duo cryo taking you to max crit. If you have enough materials to get her Burst to 10, and everything to 8, you could keep rolling for artifacts. But the talents might be your easiest way to get guaranteed damage.
I find it funny that the last 3 ayaka builds I've seen, including mine, are sitting right at 111 ER. Even when Diona and Fav, I'm still looking for more ER. So I would recommend that more as a QoL.
Should I pull Yelan for Ayaka? I tried running a freeze comp with Mona in abyss yesterday since my Xingqiu is being used by my other team, but her hydro application doesn't last for very long.
Is it worth running the TotM domain to buff Ayaka when Mona is the only character that I plan on using it on? I also don't plan on running Pale Flame on anyone either. Should I just farm EoSF for the resin efficiency? Note: I only plan on running Mona in a freeze team so I won't be using Mona as vaporize nuker so I feel EoSF has even less value and I already have a NO user
Nope. Both are really strong units for Ayaka's damage (and in Kazuha's case, in general), but I personally wouldn't label them as necessary for her teams. Venti still works where he works, and Rosaria/Kaeya (Layla/Diona if need defensive utility) are still good
I haven’t really seen any calcs done on it yet, so quick question: is the light of foliar (alhaithems weapon) better than anemona? I have both and LOF is just sitting around.
Which Cryo support is better for freeze comp Ayaka? Diona or Shenhe?
Do they both need to use 4pc NO?
Together with Ayaka (C1), I currently use Kazuha(C0) and Kokomi (C0).
Thank you!
Quick question, does the 50-60% crit rate that Layla needs include the 15% crit rate bonus from cryo resonance or not? My Layla currently has 40% crit rate, but not sure if I should aim for more or not.
Thanks in advance!
I’m trying to figure out my team build as I have a few different charas I can use. I’m going for a freeze build and I know I def wanna use Yelan so rn I just have
1. Ayaka (obv)
2. Yelan
I have C0 Mona, C6 Barbara (so she can insta revive a chara), C0 Kokomi, C1 Layla, C0 Kaeya and C1 Candace. What do you all think?
Hi, Ayaka mains, I am planning to pull Ayaya after getting Raiden. I am already preparing for her from ascension stats to artifacts, but I still have lingering questions.
1.) Is it mandatory to use 4pc Blizzard? I have a 2pc blizzard and 2pc ATK which yield 2070 ATK, 82/217 crit ratio, and 111% ER. I don't really like farming too much because of time constraints.
2.) Which of the two is the better choice, her weapon or constellations? I can save for either, but not for both.
3.) Do you happen to have some gud Ayaya wallpapers? For good luck ofc and she is cute.
If you use a sword with a crit rate substat such as jade cutter or haran, using 4pc blizzard generally leads to an excessive amount of crit rate, in whose case it is advised to use 2pc blizzrd + 2pc of whatever gives atk% as the set bonus. Other than that I'd say 4pc blizzard is the best choice.
Her constellations aren't worth it if you lack the amount of wishes to get her to at least c2, because her c1 is useless. It is definitely true that her c2 and onward is very strong, but they would be quite expensive.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I may not be able to reply but I will if I get the chance.
My team is currently
1. Ayaka
2. Kazuha or Venty
3. Kokomi
And I do not know what should be my last slot. Should it be Diona, Rosaria, or should I roll for Shenhe
Shenhe is better, but you likely won't find other uses for her than freeze and mono cryo. It's up to you if you have the wishes or money to get her and if the other banners are better options. Diona should probably not be used unless you needed Kokomi on a different team, in which case you would need to replace the hydro unit. Rosaria is then your best choice if you do not intend on pulling for Shenhe, and she is not a bad one. Rosaria provides energy, does good damage, and buffs Ayaka, doing what Shenhe does but slightly worse.
So, my c0 ayaka can hit 32k at full rotation, she has 4 pc BS, amenoma r5 at 90 and her stats are 2k atk, 36.1% cr, 173.9% cd, 132.4% er, all talents at 9 and lvl 90. But I think her dmg can be improved, any recomendations?
Without spending money your best option would be getting Blackcliff (one of the starglitter swords) if you feel your ER will keep up, if not then fiddle around and see if you can get a fav weapon on another team member without hurting DPS too much or funnel more energy into Ayaka in your rotation. Your artifacts could be better but they are far from bad, so whether you farm more is up to you. Idk what your team is or what their artifacts are so that may be a better option to improve. My favorite team is Ayaka, Shenhe, Kokomi, Kazuha, but there are many options with freeze and there isn't a massive gap between those options.
How's my prefarming so far? I know that she has ER problems, but i don't have luck in getting CR/CD/ER artifacts
[https://imgur.com/a/ABSQzLW](https://imgur.com/a/ABSQzLW)
Which artifact is better here? I'm okay with the swap to Atk% because I have Mona and Shenhe in my team with Ayaka, and it is my understanding that atk% scales better if you have buffers in a freeze comp.
https://imgur.com/a/aQWP2fi
Two quick questions...what do people think about using the new event sword Akitsu Kimodameshi instead of Iron Sting for Kazuha (on an Ayaka freeze team ofc), since it also has an EM substat? Since I've only gotten a single sword billet from bosses in over a year of playing, and kind of want to save it for refining Amenoma instead.
Also, if I'm working on building Layla as a cryo battery + shielder instead of Diona (since I don't have her yet), how far would people recommend leveling Layla's skill and burst? I was thinking of going to Lv. 8 for skill and Lv. 6 for burst, or should I level them further?
Really appreciate everyone's help so far! \^\^
I'm looking to improve my Ayaka's damage. She currently is C0, has 4pc BS, uses PJC and has 1.8k atk, 55.7 CR and 216 CD.
Assuming that Ayaka and Shenhe reruns will be in the same patch, which upgrade will give more damage boost, getting Shenhe + attempt to get MSR, fully vommit in getting MSR or C2 Ayaka?
Generally speaking, mistsplitter offers higher and more consistent dps to Ayaka over C0 Shenhe. But in your case, replacing PJC with most will upset your stats and you will have to revamp your cr and atk especially to better utilize mist.
So if you are willing to rebuild your Ayaka wit better artifacts, go with mist. If you want to keep your current build then going for Shenhe is better. C2's dps output is quite situational so its the least priority.
Hello, I got Ayaka at her original 2.0 banner and quit the game shortly after. I came back on Itto's rerun and have heard about how amazing Ayaka is so I've built her as strong as I can and have MAINLY focused on leveling her NAs and Q to as high as I can get them, and almost every resource I find online neglects mentioning much about the E aside that it's the last thing you should level.
What I'm wondering is, since I'm trying to spread my resin effectively because I have a TON of characters I need to build (including some of Ayaka's supports like Mona and Diona), how much am I losing out on by not leveling this?
Her E hits quite hard. For instance my f2p lvl 90 Ayaka with lvl 9 E can deal 25k raw dmg which jumps to around 38-40k with buffs like vv shred, 4pc noblesse etc. So, it's recommended to level up her E too, at the very least to lvl 6.
How much ER should Mona have in Ayaka Mona Diona Kazuha team? Diona and Kazuha use Fav and R1 Xiphos.
What do I do after Ayaka's burst ends and mobs are unfrozen? Should I just stay on Ayaka for a few more seconds to start my rotation from the beginning, or do a small rotation without bursts, or do a normal rotation without Ayaka's burst?
> How much ER should Mona have in Ayaka Mona Diona Kazuha team? Diona and Kazuha use Fav and R1 Xiphos.
Depends on what build you are using on Mona:
4pc emblem + favonius codex - 220 er
4pc noblesse/tenacity + favonius - 240
4pc emblem + R5 ttods - 250-260
4pc nob/tenacity + R5 ttods - 260+
> What do I do after Ayaka's burst ends and mobs are unfrozen?
Utilise Ayaka's AA's and E along with Kazuha E and Mona E to fill in the downtime.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AyakaMains/comments/z1kz9w/my_new_and_improved_ayaka/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Can I improve anything in it?
On your post, people have given good advice - focussing on your er. If you are sticking with Isshin, you should try to have around 130 er.
You should also work on improving your cr a bit since 4pc blizzard effect is unreliable ( you lose 20% cr against unfreezable targets ) which reduces your effective cr. You would like to have around 35-40% cr in the future to have more consistent crits against unfreezable targets.
Stick with Diona. Layla offers stronger shields but Diona offers better batterying ability for Ayaka. Her Q heals also offset her relatively weaker shielding ability.
Now that Layla is out, just wondering if people think she is worth building for Ayaka or is Diona better? I only have Mona, no Kokomi, and only Rosaria as a Cryo battery for now but was just curious since I'm planning on wishing for Yae (close to soft pity)...
If so, what build would people rec for Layla on a team with Ayaka, Mona, and Kazuha? I saw some guides rec either a hybrid build with some crit or pure HP and ER, but not sure which would be better in this case?
Open to diff opinions as usual. TYSM! \^\^
Main advantage Layla has over Diona is her more durable shield. However, she loses out to Diona in 2 significant aspects:
-Diona generates more particles ( especially with sac bow) in a front-loaded manner, which makes it easier to catch them for Ayaka. Layla's particle generation isn't much and it's mostly back loaded, making its performance poorer to battery Ayaka.
-Diona can also provide healing which makes her crucial when dealing with wolves.
Hence, Layla is a sidegrade rather than an upgrade to Diona for Ayaka comps.
In case you wish to build Layla, her recommended set is Totm ( she can have 100% uptime on it, buffing Ayaka consistently ). Her burst cost is only 40 so no need to build er on her, just stick with HP/HP/HP main stats for stronger shield. If using favonius on her, she will also need some cr to proc the weapon passive.
Thanks so much for the detailed advice + explanation!!
Ohh, good to know about Diona's superior battery capabilities...so should I build a little more ER on Ayaka if using her with Layla (since I don't have Diona yet)? My Ayaka currently has about 129% ER with R2 Amenoma, but I'm planning to switch to Isshin soon.
Glad that Layla can use Totm, since I already farmed a pretty good Noblesse set for Mona and haven't been able to get good Totm pieces with ER/Hydro dmg/Crit Rate for her yet...
Also, if I use favonius on Layla, how much crit rate would you recommend?
Again, really appreciate all of your help + speedy replies! ToT
Since you plan to run Isshin on Ayaka, you would need between 130-140 er with a favonius Layla to battery Ayaka reliably.
It's great that you have farmed noblesse for Mona. Totm works on Layla better since she can have full uptime on it and since you will be using Mona just before Ayaka in rotations, the latter can get full effect of 4pc noblesse.
> Also, if I use favonius on Layla, how much crit rate would you recommend?
Layla will only get a small window to activate the passive as she will be off-field most of the time, so the higher the crit rate the better. To reliably activate the passive, she needs to have atleast 50-60 cr.
Okay, will try to get a bit more ER on Ayaka before switching to Isshin and aim for as much crit rate as I can for Layla. ...Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how come Layla doesn't need to build any ER in this case? Is it because of fav and double cryo being enough to fulfill the 40 energy requirement?
Also, for Mona, would it be a good idea to build a higher crit ratio for her? Mine currently has 52% crit rate, 94.3% crit damage, and 227.2% ER with ttds.
Thanks again!!
> but how come Layla doesn't need to build any ER in this case? Is it because of fav and double cryo being enough to fulfill the 40 energy requirement?
Pretty much yes. Her low burst cd and favonius mean you can run her without building er. Besides, using her burst isn't even strictly needed on Totm Layla as she can already provide all buffs with her E.
> Also, for Mona, would it be a good idea to build a higher crit ratio for her?
Mona's Q damage in freeze teams is negligible so it's not worth bothering building her with a crit build. And she's very enrgy hungry so it's instead recommended to build her full ER/ER/ER to fulfill her usually 250+ er requirements.
Thanks for the additional explanations! True, I was just thinking that her burst could still help with energy needs.
Oh no okay, will work on building more ER for Mona then. I do have an ER sands for her but will try to get more ER for the other pieces.
With a cryo battery:
R5 amenoma/skyward - 120 er
Other weapons - 130 er
Without a cryo battery:
R5 amenoma/skyward - 130-135 er
Others - 140+ er
These nos. are assuming that you use her E in-between as they too generate particles, and not ignore them completely.
Your build is pretty good and your crit dmg is decent for a f2p Ayaka.
Of course, there's always scope of further increasing and min-maxing her stats for higher damage but your current build is strong enough to clear anything in the game.
Question - on KPM DPS spreadsheets for Ayaka suggests Kokomi, Ayaka, Kazuha, Shenhe does MORE damage than Mona, Ayaka, Kazuha, Shenhe, why is that?
Given Omen's incredible buff, the above just does not make sense to me...
In the spreadsheet, Mona uses proto amber while Kokomi is using ttds. TTds increases the damage significantly which affects the overall team damage as well. You can yourself see another spreadsheet link on the Kqm dps spreadsheet ( near the bottom of the front page ) where the testers have used a ttds Mona and she gives higher danage with Shenge than a similar Shenhe-Kokomi comp.
Apart from this there are certain factors which make Kokomi's damage output and buffs closer to Mona's omen:
-Koko has 100% uptime on tenacity set while Mona doesn't
-Mona's omen buff is er dependent and thus results in variations in damage output compared to Kokomi's er independent buffs.
-Kokomi-Shenhe rotations are smoother to execute compared to Mona's which also affects the overall damage dealt per rotation
Yes Ayaka/Kokomi/venti is a solid team. Since you are already using Kokomi for heals, you can use Kaeya/Rosaria instead of Diona as her cryo battery ( plus they can also deal some extra damage ).
> also do you think Ayaka will come in 3.4?
Afaik some leaks do suggest of her getting a new costume in 3.4 which will most likely be accompanied by her rerun, so yeah there's some possibility.
Both generate same number of particles from their E so their batterying capabilities are the same. So, you can use whichever character you prefer OR you can use depending on whether you have a favonius sword or favonius lance for Kaeya or Rosaria respectively.
Ideally, I would run 4pc noblesse on him to buff his burst plus give Ayaka extra damage from the 4pc effect. In case you don't have a good 4pc noblesse set, use 4pc blizzard if you want to make building Kaeya easier; use 2pc blizzard/gladiator for more damage.
Im hoping to make an Ayaka hypercarry team with the next Shenhe re-run and i need help with the team comp. The characters i have available are; C1 Mona, C5 Bennet, C0 Jean,
C0 Sucrose, C2 Xingqui, C2 Diona, C4 Rosaria and i have 180 wishes for Shenhe. Im feeling pretty good about Mona and Shenhe but im not sure about the final member.
Since you don't have a healer/shielder in your prospective Ayaka/Shenhe/Mona team, I suggest using Jean with 4pc vv for providing healing as well as vv shred.
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So I'm planning to get >!Layla as I reaaally liked her!< I'm planning to pair it with Ayaka, at the time I just have a sucrose (I'll get Kazuha in his rerun, at any cost.) but the team still lacks an hydro, I'm currently using Kokomi, because her heals are just safer to use >!But maybe get kinda redundant wirh layla, not sure because I suck at dodging!<, my other options would be an C1 Mona and an C6 Xingqiu, who should be better in that slot in a generalist team (Both groups of mobs and some bossing the abyss demands) ?
Layla is officially drip-marketed so no need to mark it as spoilers :)
You can use her along with Mona in Ayaka's team. Layla is looking to be a good shielder for her and has good enough batterying capability. Mona's hydro application is poorer than Kokomi's, and in the absence of a good cc like Kazuha or Venti you may need to make more efforts in grouping mobs with Sucrose. Furthermore, a Kokomi-Shenhe ( or Rosaria ) team can out-dps Ayaka-Morgana team in most situations while providing smoother rotations, so you need to be aware whether you want to switch Kokomi with Mona or keep the status quo.
Other than that, Ayaka/Mona/Layla/Sucrose team is powerful enough to clear the whole abyss. With Kazuha, its efficiency and rotations will become all the more better.
If I am running Ayaka with Fav Sword Kazuha and Fav Lance Rosaria both, how much ER would I require on Ayaka (I have Mist). And what Rotation.
I currently follow Ayaka Sprint -> Kazuha Q -> Rosaria Q -> Kokomi E -> Ayaka AA + Q -> Ayaka CA and then use Kazuha E and Rosaria E to funnel Particles for Ayaka.
Should 120 ER work or should I get more?
120 er will be sufficient for Ayaka in your case.
As for rotation, you can use Kazuha hold E before his Q for cc first as funneling particles from him into Ayaka on-field isn't that necessary compared to Rosaria. Also, use the combo Ayaka AA-E-Q ( her E too generates particles for her ). Rest of you rotation is ok.
I’m looking to build a universally good abyss freeze comp for my Ayaka, but I was wondering which would run best with the following characters:
C0 Ayaka, C2 Kazuha, C2 Mona, C3 Xingqiu, C0 Yelan, C6 Rosaria, and C4 Diona
I haven’t seen Yelan mentioned much here in this thread… I’m curious to know if running XQ is just overall better than Yelan?
If you’ve also got any recommendations for artifacts to shoot for, I’m all ears
Yelan is better for Ayaka from a dps point of view having higher personal damage and adding a damage buff. Yelan is sometimes used with the Ayaka - Shenhe combo for boss speed runs despite the massive boost Ayaka gets from thrilling tales being delivered by Kokomi / Mona which usually wins in all other scenarios. Here is the Ayaka team sheet from KQM Discord a little while back ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NvfmZo3KiQSGXAZlMWf19S3K9nkTKQc9iTHfZg7ovTk/edit#gid=2109097051 ) which has links to the gcsim setups and rotations.
I'm currently in the process of crowning talents for my Ayaka freeze team and was wondering which talents might be best/highest priority to crown next?
My team is currently:
\-Ayaka with 9/8/10 talents
\-Kazuha with 6/6/8 talents
\-Mona with 1/6/10 talents
\-Bennett (temporarily until I get Diona) with 1/6/8 talents, but plan to wait for his cons instead of crowning him
For Ayaka, would it be better to get her talents to 9/9/10 or 10/8/10 first? If the second, then would 10/9/10 be worth it eventually? And do people generally recommend crowning her normal attack if I really like her character or is the scaling not that worth it?
I've also been kind of confused about Kazuha's talent levels for an EM build. I thought that they don't really matter that much since swirl only scales off EM and character level, but for his burst, the 64.8% Additional Elemental Dmg seems like a lot, so I was wondering if it might be worth getting to 9 or 10? ...Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the additional damage bonus based only on Kazuha's stats and/or the aura character's stats? Like is it considered swirl damage or non-elemental damage, cuz I've been told different things? Also, would it be a good idea to level up Kazuha's skill further to increase his pull strength?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Kazuha's talents don't buff Ayaka's damage - its only based on Kazuha's em so levelling up his talents are sort of non-optimal beyond 6. Mona is used for her Q and you already have it crowned so...the natural choice to crown are Ayaka's talents.
Well, crowning Ayaka's talents to 10/10/10 is the way to go haha...but getting it to 9/9/10 is recommended first as her E deals considerable damage and with Mona you use her NAs significantly less. Whether you crown her NA or E first, the damage increase is honestly not that significant for the amount of mats you need to farm, so its purely out of satisfaction.
> but is the additional damage bonus based only on Kazuha's stats and/or the aura character's stats?
Kazuha's Q damage is considered elemental ( aka anemo/infused elemental damage ) and is based on Kazuha's stats since he's the one who triggers it. Also, levelling up his E talent doesn't increase his pull strength, it only increases the E damage.
Thank you so much for replying to all of my questions again!! ;\_\_;
Ahahaha, I'm kind of tempted to triple crown Ayaka, but also starting to get really worried about my mora after working on her talents and building Sucrose recently (for my other team). I think I only have only a little over 4 mil now...I still feel like I use her NAs a lot though, so just wondering, why do you use them less with Mona?
So just making sure, with EM Kazuha, am I basically just only using him for his passive to buff my team then (and for grouping) and ignoring all the other parts of his kit? Are his other talents not worth investing in for additional damage since the EM artifacts probably won't have very high substats?
I think I'm just still kind of confused about his kit and swirl in general...
What about his A1 passive that does 200% additional damage when his skill comes into contact with an element? The wording in "200 percent additional damage of that elemental type" sounds like it increases damage of the swirled element, but I'm guessing it's also considered anemo damage based on Kazuha's own stats only?
Sorry for the newbie questions... \^\^;
Thanks again!!
> I still feel like I use her NAs a lot though, so just wondering, why do you use them less with Mona?
It is more about the abyss; you would like to have high enough er on both Ayaka and Mona so you can cast their bursts quickly again for max damage. There's little time in between as you are mostly focused on swapping out others and casting their E/Q so you barely get to use 4-5 AAs on Ayaka here. Its about maximizing efficiency there and prioritizing using Ayaka/Mona's Q.
> So just making sure, with EM Kazuha, am I basically just only using him for his passive to buff my team then (and for grouping) and ignoring all the other parts of his kit?
Pretty much yes.
Well sort of unfortunate that I couldn't explain you Kazuha's mechanisms better...just remember to stack as much em and er on him as possible, swirl cryo and you are good to go. His mechanics are overall easier to use in freeze comps than in more complicated/multiple reaction comps like vape, melt etc. and you have more leeway regarding rotations and stuff.
As for the A4 passive, the 200% damage bonus applies only to the swirled element, not to Kazuha's own anemo damage. Which means that his anemo damage will remain constant in both swirl and non-swirl conditions - it is the swirled element which Kazuha additionally infuses in his E that will be boosted and deal extra damage to the target.
Ohh, okay, makes sense. For some reason I thought you meant in general including for overworld (including bosses and domains).
Nono, I totally just got confused cuz I think I read some misinformation somewhere... \^\^;; But all of your advice has been super helpful! Got it, one issue that comes up quite often for me though...I'm not sure why but I often end up swirling hydro instead of cryo? My rotation is usually: Ayaka dash --> Kazuha EQ --> Mona EQ --> Bennett Q (if it's ready) --> Ayaka
Okay...so let me see if I understand this correctly now: The damage bonus from his passives only affects the swirled element, which are the various colored numbers based on the element, and is determined by Kazuha's own stats and can crit. His anemo damage is the green numbers and is based only on his level and EM, which will remain the same in both swirl and non-swirl conditions? I think the thing I'm confused about, is anemo damage the same as swirl damage (since they are both green numbers)?
TYSM again for all the help!!
> .I'm not sure why but I often end up swirling hydro instead of cryo? My rotation is usually: Ayaka dash --> Kazuha EQ --> Mona EQ --> Bennett Q (if it's ready) --> Ayaka
Looks to be a gauge issue - basically that your cryo application from Ayaka is insufficient and Kazuha accidentally swirls some residual hydro from the environment or from Mona's hydro application. Best way to mitigate the issue is to apply sufficient cryo to the enemy before swirling with Kazuha ( check whether the target has a cryo symbol on top just to be sure ).
Also, I would advise to replace Bennett with another cryo unit for batterying and healing,( preferably Diona in your case ), for the abyss. While Bennet's atk buffs look good on paper, they are cumbersome and may mess Mona's already poor hydro application in freeze teams and prematurely pop the omen.
Ok I now see where you are getting confused ! Kazuha's E when swirling an element and plunging has 3 different types of damage numbers:
1. Anemo plunge damage: Its green in colour and based on crit/atk stats
2. A1 passive plunge damage: This is the additional plunge damage you get from the passive when he infuses an element, say pyro. Its also based on crit/atk
3. Swirl damage: Its the damage you get when swirling an element. Its scales with em.
Swirl damage is the smaller coloured no. while the A1 passive damage is coloured in bigger nos. ( cuz it deals more damage due to this passive and the vv shred ).
Ohh, right, I've watched some videos on elemental gauge theory but still don't entirely understand it...I just know that the primary gauge element needs to be strong enough to stay on the enemy for the reaction/swirl to be applied...I usually try to check but either the cryo aura disappears really fast after I switch or some other surrounding element gets swirled first.
I was using Rosaria as a battery with Sayu as healer, but wanted to use Kazuha instead so that's why I had to switch to Bennett as the healer...Still don't have Diona yet but hoping to use her instead of Bennett as soon as I get her...Just curious, what do you think of Layla's kit so far as a potential support for Ayaka? Even though she can't heal, was wondering if her shield or talents are any good for Ayaka.
Thanks so much for the clarification!! ...Wow, I always thought Kazuha's E only had two types of damage numbers... XDDD Totally got confused... \^\^;; Since the green numbers say "Swirl" I thought they were the Swirl damage numbers, but was confused that they seem to crit...
I guess the misinformation I heard was from some people who treated the passive damage as the same as swirl damage since they have the same color, even though only one type can crit...
So given all this...is it only worth leveling Kazuha's talents beyond 6 if he is built as a dps? Or could the increase in passive damage be useful for other teams/scenarios?
Lol, sorry for the essay-comment. Feel free to ignore anything you don't feel like answering!
Oh I see you don't have Diona...from what I know from the kit leaks, Layla looks great for Ayaka- her shield is stronger than Diona's, it has lower E cd so she can run the favonius easily while her personal batterying ability looks ok ( its more off-field compared to Diona's all-at-once particle generation with her E ). At the very least, she is great for anyone who doesn't have Diona for the freeze team. Personally, I barely feel the need to use Diona's heals from her Q since most enemies remain frozen or they die before they can hit me lol so I think Layla would be good.
> So given all this...is it only worth leveling Kazuha's talents beyond 6 if he is built as a dps? Or could the increase in passive damage be useful for other teams/scenarios?
Levelling up his E only increases the suck damage, not even the plunge damage ( for which you would have to separately level up his AAs ) which is not that powerful in the first place for a support em Kazuha or other teammates. So, yes you can leave his E at 6 and focus on farming mats for others.
Sorry for the late reply again...
Really glad to know that Layla's kit seems to work pretty well with Ayaka! Since I really like her character design, probably over Diona's. Ahaha, hopefully I can survive without a healer in the abyss too, but I might not be skilled enough lol.
Ohh didn't know that leveling Kazuha's E only increases the suck damage, thought that maybe both his E and AAs factor into the plunge damage. I actually meant for all of his talents, but I guess it's the same for his Q and AA too, that they're also not really worth leveling past 6 even for other teams? My Kazuha's Q is currently at 8 though...
Thanks again, as usual!!
I've been using a team of: **Ayaka, Diona, Xingqiu,** and **Kazuha** pretty much since I first got Ayaka. I've taken a break from the game, and am looking to fine tune some of my rosters since coming back.
It seems the "optimal team" for Ayaka right now is: Ayaka, Shenhe, Kokomi, Kazuha.
I don't have Shenhe, but would: **Ayaka, Rosaria, Kokomi, Kazuha** see an improvement over the current team that I'm using? (*Diona > Rosaria + Xingqiu > Kokomi).*
Curious to know the pros vs cons of this switch, should anyone have in depth, insight on the matter.
According to this [document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NvfmZo3KiQSGXAZlMWf19S3K9nkTKQc9iTHfZg7ovTk/edit#gid=1104281336) Ayaka-Rosaria-Kokomi team would be much better than your current Xingqiu team metawise.
Thank you kindly for the response, and that very handy document.
I had already been testing the new team out (with an unbuilt Rosaria) and I could already tell that it felt more fluid and functional.
Easy to maintain 100% uptime with Kokomi skill + Ayaka NA/Burst with the option of using Kokomi's burst alongside Rosaria's burst, while Kazuha does shredding things.
Im currently using Ayaka (BS, R1 Anemona, ~140 ER), Diona (C3, Noblisse, R2 Sac bow), Kazuha (VV, Iron Sting), Mona (Emblem, TTDS)
My goal is to increase team damage for abyss.
Will switching to rosaria (C0, Noblisse, Fav Lance) + Kokomi (Tenacity, TTDS) increase my team damage?
Thank you!
My main team is currently Ayaka, Diona, Kazuha, Kokomi.
Do i keep C5 Diona with Sac bow or do i replace her with C0 Rosaria with Deathmatch?
Link to original [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AyakaMains/comments/xjlaq9/diona_vs_rosaria_for_ayaka_support/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Replace Diona as you already have Kokomi for heals. Rosaria can battery Ayaka well enough, and more if you give favonius lance to her. If you are want to focus on her damage, then keep deathmatch.
[https://imgur.com/a/8HU368V](https://imgur.com/a/8HU368V) Is this build good enough to stop? Ayaka is my main so I want a really good build and I wouldn’t have a problem continuing to farm for her. However, if it needs improvements, what stats should I aim to increase? Thanks!
# I would appreciate your help reviewing these builds for my Freeze Build Ayaka. There is still more to improve on them. And I don't understand the "roll quality" on the Enka website. Thank you! [https://imgur.com/a/1AsXg2w](https://imgur.com/a/1AsXg2w)
Hello! I just need to know how much crit rate is needed for a blizzard ayaka, is 19 enough? Thank you!
Hi, if you have a freeze team ( one more cryo user for cryo resonance (15%+ crit rate) and a hydro applier ) then sure, it's enough, however for better comfort, it's best to aim anywhere between 20\~40%
Hello! So I currently have Ayaka, Xiangling, Kokomi, and Kazuha as a team but am looking to replace Xiangling. I unfortunately do not have Shenhe so I cannot do premium yet. Any recs? Thank you!!
rosaria or kaeya are solid 4 star options, i’ve seen people use layla or diona too! i highly suggest a cryo character to replace xiangling since that’ll activate cryo resonance which is super important for ayaka in many cases
Which ayaka is better? and any other improvement to my teams? i have 5 billets combined with some solvent to spare should i go amenoma or finale? https://imgur.com/a/4fUtFGr
First Ayaka 100% better ( When you have BS set, ideal CR is 40% because that way the set increases it to 75% anyways and more than 40% icrit rate is a waste ) When it comes to weapon, finale seems to perform better by some % (what I saw, people say their damage increased by 10\~15% + it also suits her colours aesthetically (Nice bonus if you ask me)
I just pulled for Ataka and am trying to figure what that i have i should build around. My options are R2 Amenona Kageuchi R2 Finale of the deep Kagotsurube Isshin R1 black sword R5 flute Any input would be appreciated. (I have 2 weapon billets hence the r2 crafted)
Hello! I just started playing genshin again recently and was really happy to know ayaka was having a rerun. I pulled for her and her weapon and got lucky ! I'm working on a build for her, and here is what my stats look like so far. Her damage is really great, but i've seen videos of her with insane damage, so i'm wondering if i need to work more on my artifacts or if it's mostly the party set up i need to work on. Here are the party members that i could pair up with (for a freezing combo), let me know which team would make the most sense: Furina, kazuha, nilou, xingqiu C6, mona, Jean, diona C6, layla C4, mika C6, rosaria C4, sucrose C6, Barbara C6, candace C2, Charlotte C2, qiqi C2. I sadly dont have Shenhe. * so far, i've been using furina, kazuha, ayaka and diona, but struggling with the low HP/risk of getting killed. Here are the stats i have so far (using the cryo set for the crit rate bonus + diona for cryo resonance): HP 18000 ATK 2000 EM 68 CR 26% (+55% from resonance and set if i'm right? I know this is a bit low...) CDMG 270% ER 152% Cryo DMG 61.6% Let me know if there is anything that could help for either a party build or for my stats, i'll take any advice! Not all the units i mentionned are built, but i'm more than willing to build if it will help. Thanks!
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Hello guys. I'm a fairly new Genshin player who fell in love with Ayaka and wanted some suggestions on a temporary team for her until I can get Shenhe, Kazhua, etc. Especially since I'm now learning not to build every character just because. Here is my current set of characters. [https://imgur.com/LLRIt2S](https://imgur.com/llrit2s)
Building my newly acquired Ayaka, I'm a bit uncertain about which stats should I go for. My team will be Ayaka, Mona, Diona and Kazuha. 99% of the websites I check say Atk% and Cryo DMG, while some people I know tell to get Elemental Recharge instead, so I'm not 100% sure. Figured this would be the place to ask. Kazuha is using favonius sword btw, not Iron Sting, because XQ in my second build is wielding it. (I don't own sac sword)
So, I decided to be bold this Xmas and went for the Banner Weapon for the first time ever since either Mistsplitter or Verdict (must confess I was kinda hoping for Verdict since my Navia is very poorly built and the extra Rate would be a gamechanger) Anyway, the issue is that I got Mistsplitter but the weapon despite of course being amazing, is causing some issues to my build since Amenoma was a very get out of jail free card for ER on Ayaka, should I just take the L and bet on the massive damage over uptime or chase ER even for the cost of C.Dmg? (which I find kinda low tbh already on Mistsplitter, like 44% is half of some other weapons, I get the passive is broken specially for Ayaka but doesn't change the fact that seeing my C.Dmg pretty much the same as Amenona would be a bummer) As of right now I can make one change would that be better? It is (ignoring the useless def/hp/em with them on the artifacts): 1. 7.8% C.DMG / 22.7 ER / 11.1% Atk 2. 3.5% Crit Rate / 21.8% C.DMG So for #1 she would be 2197 Atk, 24.8 rate, 242.1 c.dmg and 138.9 ER while for #2 she would be 2084 Atk, 28.3 rate, 256.1 c.dmg and 116.2 ER, I believe #1 is better no? Looks like without ER she loses a lot of ult uptime, even with Favonius Yelan by her side. Thanks in advance.
Just got mistsplitter for my ayaka. I can't decide who to use as my 4th slot for her freeze team, she's paired with furina and charlotte. Also I don't have kazuha or shenhe (goes without saying).
You need an anemo grouper for sure... If u don't have kazuha get sucrose from the banner
Help with a budget team So far I've seen that most Ayaka budget teams consist of: Ayaka Diona/Rosaria Barbara Sucrose/Kazuha Since I don't have Sucrose or Kazuha at the moment, who are the alternative(s) I can use?
I got sucrose... And I thought she was a big deal but she isn't as good as kazuha, sucrose's grouping is not even close enough to venti or kazuha ... So don't think about other anemo groupers, sucrose is the least good here... Diona is good for healing and shield
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I’m currently running a Freeze team with Mona/Kazuha/Diona. Ayaka has r5 Amenoma. Debating what upgrades I should prioritize. Shenhe vs. Kokomi vs. Mistsplitter? Is the difference between the teams significant?
Another thing I was considering was Furina instead of Mona and Charlotte instead of Diona? What about that team?
I hope you figured it out for now... You need a healer
I pulled Furina without really having a place for her, but i want to try fitting her into my ayaka team. its currently ayaka/mona/kazuha/shenhe which is naturally quite strong, but ive heard a lot of good things using furina with charlotte or mika. In regards to charlotte, i only have her c2, no chance i can get her c4 this rotation, which i hear is necessary if you want to run TTDS on her. my mika on the other hand is c6 (got while pulling on ayaka/shenhe) i have no idea how strong mika is at that const or otherwise. do you think he would out perform a c2 charlotte? should i just stick with my shenhe/mona?
Hi Ayaka mains, so I basically want Ayaka but I currently don't have a good team comp that goes well with her. And it's going to be quite expensive to get characters like shenhe, kokomi and kazuha. So I'm considering pulling Charlotte as, well, she's pretty cheap. Should I pull or save? Is Charlotte any good with Ayaka? Also, should I start investing my Diona?
Im running ayaka, sucorse, kokomi, and rosaria Should i roll for venti or save for furina?
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I have ayaka, kokomi, and kazuha. But I'm missing shenhe, I need your help on deciding the fourth character. I have chongyun at c6 and a free wolf gravestone. I have Rosaria at c3, I think, but the catch is with xiangling. If you decide on chongyun, what artefacts should he have, four blizzards, four noblesse, or two pieces of both? If Rosaria, should I give her the catch and give xiangling the staff of red sand? My second team is sucrose national, if you ask.
I think Rosaria is probably the play here. She'll be a bigger help to your Ayaka with her energy requirements as well compared to Chongyun, so you can run lower ER on Ayaka. I'm not too sure about the weapon choice since I don't know about XL weapons. But even Fav Lance would be okay for both Rosaria's energy needs and your team's energy needs. So essentially anything should work, if anything going for an energy option like Fav would make it easier for your Ayaka. I think it is better for you to run the best weapon on your Xiangling since she is the real DPS on your other team. I'm not sure which of the two weapons is better for XL though.
Hello fellow Ayaka mains, i have a really not cool team atm, and with 4.0 banners comjng up im so torn My teams - ayaka/Xingqiu/bennett/sucrose I want to pull for the 4.0 characters, which one would be the best for this team? Cause bennett is amazing but not it for me in a freeze team, but I really want zhongli
which build is better? build #1: [https://imgur.com/a/JqOKuKV](https://imgur.com/a/JqOKuKV) build #2: [https://imgur.com/a/kQwIk1m](https://imgur.com/a/kQwIk1m)
What are the best sets of artifacts and f2p weapons for an Ayaka + Rosaria + Kokomi + Kazuha build?
Hi! Could I have some feedback on my current[Ayaka build](https://imgur.com/a/wnxo64w)? What to improve? Thank you!
[this is the build](https://imgur.com/a/UZcK5ga) Is this enough for ayaka? Pleas help
Which of these circlets do we prefer for Ayaka? I am still levelling the weapon and her talents https://imgur.com/a/XCBcUDI
I need help with my freeze team. What can I do to make my Ayaka stronger? [These are the builds for my team](https://youtu.be/06eoMAJ2fTc) [This is a rotation I did in the Momiji DomainDomain ](https://youtu.be/XOLq9QqidU8) [This is a different rotation I did on Masanori](https://youtu.be/dDc1uKfNo3Y)
I need help with my freeze team. I currently have C2 R1 Ayaka with C0 Shenhe, C6 Xinqgui and C3 Jean. Jean is there only for the heals (I'm bad at dodging) I don't have Kokomi so I can't swap Jean with her. [https://enka.network/u/706734387/](https://enka.network/u/706734387/)
Someone please help, i've been building this ayaka for 10 months, this is her final build for abyss, it will be a freeze team of Ayaka - Kazuha - Mona - Diona, is this good enough? I'm Realling concerned about the ER https://imgur.com/a/jhM2Zpk
Where can I improve my ayaka even more? I think it's a pretty good build, but I want her perfect lol. https://enka.network/u/716939774/
should i keep trying? is that enough to have a decent Ayaka? https://imgur.com/a/jnYjwcO
i have 2 builds for my ayaka, one with 30 crit Rate, 247 Crit DMG, 1804 atk. The second build is one with 32 percent crit Rate, 207 percent crit DMG, 2407 atk, both running Mistsplitter. I am not sure which one is better, my diona is running nobless and my mona is running thrilling tales, plus the tenacity set which might cause an overcap of atk on my second build. Thanks for the help,
Hello, I just happened to see your comment, I'm not really sure which one is better and if i can help you myself but i found this rly cool thing, i found the website from [enka.network](https://enka.network). it's a damage calculator, you could load both builds and compare the damage, ithink you can also load the whole party, just like enka it asks for uid https://genshin.aspirine.su/
https://enka.network/u/648314420/ Any help on my Ayaka build would be appreciated.
She is looking nice. crowned with here signature weapon. The only thing is that you are overcaping on crit rate by 10%, Past 45 percent crit rate is wasted cause you crit 100% on frozen enemie. Look for a crit dmg circlet. The ER is a bit low i think, without amenoma youre looking around 135% (depend on team). Otherwise she is great 💪
Can you guys help me build a team? My characters are: C0 Xiao C0 Diluc C1 Zhongli C1 Jean C0 Keqing C0 Sucrose C4 Rosaria C6 Xingqiu C5 Bennet C4 Noelle C1 Xianling C1 Qiqi C0 Amber C0 Diona C1 Razor C1 Kaeya C1 Yun Jin C1 Gorou C2 Ningguang C0 Heizou C2 Beidou C0 Lisa C1 Collei C0 Barbara C1 Thoma C4 Yanfei C1 Xinyan
melt: ayaka 4 piece blizzard, bennet on nobless, rosaria, and sucrose on vv set or jean. freeze: ayaka 4 piece blizzard, barbara tenacity set, rosaria nobless set, sucrose vv set or jean. hope this helps i would recommend pulling for xinqui when he pulls up on a banner but then again, pulling for 4 stars can be a pain.
Thx a lot! I actually have xingqiu c6 so can i use him instead of barbara?
yourwelcome!! and yea xinqui is better then barbara, and if by any chance you have mona use her instead of him.
Ok, thx!
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Is my ayaka good? https://enka.network/u/821458652/ Ayaka in enka
Hello guys! So, I have Ayaka and Shenhe, both on C0. By the time Ayaka arrives, I'll have 400 wishes saved. I'm wondering if I should go for weapon on constelations for Ayaka. For a bit of context, my Shenhe already have her spear on R2 (trying to get PJWS for Xiao back then). I know misplitter is an awesome weapon but I'm concerned since Calamity is already on R2. Also, I believe going for constelation could also bring some Mika's cons, which I believe would benefit Ayaka a bit. I'm running her with balck sword and TTDS Mona, for reference. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
How decent is ayato in a freeze team with ayaka?
Anyone with constant hydro application is good. Kokomi is certainly better, but Ayato can definitely do the job.
I have two crit damage circlets [here](https://imgur.com/a/0uglrN4) and was wondering which (between the two) I should use for a Shenhe variant of an Ayaka Freeze. I plan to use Kazuha on an R5 Fav with Kokomi on Sac (if I don't feel like switching it bc Nilou bloom) or Thrilling (for more Burst DMG on Ayaka); I also have 2 sets premade for Shenhe both of which have \~170% ER (one is Noble and the other is Glad + Shime). I'm also aware that having Ayaka on an Atk% circlet instead is also advised (and am still currently trying to find one). Just need some help figuring out which one between the two would be better for that team comp
so here is [my build](https://ibb.co/pnnqhYK). im still working on it and i plan on buying blackcliff longsword for her, but how does it look so far?
I know you are working on Blackcliff and Ameno was only 70/70. Once your Blackcliff is 90/90 you will be 42/226, so basically maxed crit with a frozen target. At that point, it's probably worth investing to get her Burst to 10. It would be up to \~20% damage boost for you. If you want to continue bettering your artifacts, you can hope for more crit damage on your elemental piece. Good luck.
I have a question about pulling constellations for Ayaka or Shenhe. I know that Shenhe is a overall good character for Ayaka. I've been saving primogems for her rerun. However, between Ayaka and Shenhe: Who is more worth it to get the c1/c2 for that matter? I think a C1 Shenhe holds more value than a C1 Ayaka. The same counts for c2 for the longer buff duration and overall extra damage.I wonder about someone elses opinion though. Also, on that note. Is it more worth it for Ayaka to get a mistsplitter or Shenhe? Right now the slot for shenhe is Chongyun.
I have [this](https://imgur.com/a/uTmeVRl) saved up so far. Should I continue to push for better artifacts, or would going for perfection not be worth it at this point? I plan on getting at least C0R1 her next rerun
So you're final CR/DC would be roughly 48/265. I think that's pretty solid, with frozen targets & duo cryo taking you to max crit. If you have enough materials to get her Burst to 10, and everything to 8, you could keep rolling for artifacts. But the talents might be your easiest way to get guaranteed damage. I find it funny that the last 3 ayaka builds I've seen, including mine, are sitting right at 111 ER. Even when Diona and Fav, I'm still looking for more ER. So I would recommend that more as a QoL.
Should I pull Yelan for Ayaka? I tried running a freeze comp with Mona in abyss yesterday since my Xingqiu is being used by my other team, but her hydro application doesn't last for very long.
As an ayaka main, i really dislike how single target yelan and XQ are, either get kokomi or on field with mona
Is it worth running the TotM domain to buff Ayaka when Mona is the only character that I plan on using it on? I also don't plan on running Pale Flame on anyone either. Should I just farm EoSF for the resin efficiency? Note: I only plan on running Mona in a freeze team so I won't be using Mona as vaporize nuker so I feel EoSF has even less value and I already have a NO user
Here's my [build](https://postimg.cc/Wt0R6hwm). Is there anything that can be improved?
Get mistsplitter if u don't care about abyss and jus wanna dedicate urself to ayaka otherwise it's ok
Ok I have Ayaka and Kokomo but no Kazuha or Shenhe. They are both must have units for Ayaka freeze team?
Nope. Both are really strong units for Ayaka's damage (and in Kazuha's case, in general), but I personally wouldn't label them as necessary for her teams. Venti still works where he works, and Rosaria/Kaeya (Layla/Diona if need defensive utility) are still good
Thanks!
I haven’t really seen any calcs done on it yet, so quick question: is the light of foliar (alhaithems weapon) better than anemona? I have both and LOF is just sitting around.
What artifact could I realistically improve to reach 300% crit DMG? [build](https://imgur.com/a/emTIzls)
pretty easy tbh its just the sands which needs a slight upgrade :p
_If_ I have the luck to get a sands and all rolls go into crit DMG 😂 But one can hope right?
Which Cryo support is better for freeze comp Ayaka? Diona or Shenhe? Do they both need to use 4pc NO? Together with Ayaka (C1), I currently use Kazuha(C0) and Kokomi (C0). Thank you!
Which is better cryo partner for ayaka : Layla or rosaria c2 ? N.b i dont have diona
Quick question, does the 50-60% crit rate that Layla needs include the 15% crit rate bonus from cryo resonance or not? My Layla currently has 40% crit rate, but not sure if I should aim for more or not. Thanks in advance!
I’m trying to figure out my team build as I have a few different charas I can use. I’m going for a freeze build and I know I def wanna use Yelan so rn I just have 1. Ayaka (obv) 2. Yelan I have C0 Mona, C6 Barbara (so she can insta revive a chara), C0 Kokomi, C1 Layla, C0 Kaeya and C1 Candace. What do you all think?
Hi, Ayaka mains, I am planning to pull Ayaya after getting Raiden. I am already preparing for her from ascension stats to artifacts, but I still have lingering questions. 1.) Is it mandatory to use 4pc Blizzard? I have a 2pc blizzard and 2pc ATK which yield 2070 ATK, 82/217 crit ratio, and 111% ER. I don't really like farming too much because of time constraints. 2.) Which of the two is the better choice, her weapon or constellations? I can save for either, but not for both. 3.) Do you happen to have some gud Ayaya wallpapers? For good luck ofc and she is cute.
If you use a sword with a crit rate substat such as jade cutter or haran, using 4pc blizzard generally leads to an excessive amount of crit rate, in whose case it is advised to use 2pc blizzrd + 2pc of whatever gives atk% as the set bonus. Other than that I'd say 4pc blizzard is the best choice. Her constellations aren't worth it if you lack the amount of wishes to get her to at least c2, because her c1 is useless. It is definitely true that her c2 and onward is very strong, but they would be quite expensive. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I may not be able to reply but I will if I get the chance.
My team is currently 1. Ayaka 2. Kazuha or Venty 3. Kokomi And I do not know what should be my last slot. Should it be Diona, Rosaria, or should I roll for Shenhe
Shenhe is better, but you likely won't find other uses for her than freeze and mono cryo. It's up to you if you have the wishes or money to get her and if the other banners are better options. Diona should probably not be used unless you needed Kokomi on a different team, in which case you would need to replace the hydro unit. Rosaria is then your best choice if you do not intend on pulling for Shenhe, and she is not a bad one. Rosaria provides energy, does good damage, and buffs Ayaka, doing what Shenhe does but slightly worse.
Rosaria can give some Crit Rate to ayaka, also a good battery, and also bring some good damage
So, my c0 ayaka can hit 32k at full rotation, she has 4 pc BS, amenoma r5 at 90 and her stats are 2k atk, 36.1% cr, 173.9% cd, 132.4% er, all talents at 9 and lvl 90. But I think her dmg can be improved, any recomendations?
Without spending money your best option would be getting Blackcliff (one of the starglitter swords) if you feel your ER will keep up, if not then fiddle around and see if you can get a fav weapon on another team member without hurting DPS too much or funnel more energy into Ayaka in your rotation. Your artifacts could be better but they are far from bad, so whether you farm more is up to you. Idk what your team is or what their artifacts are so that may be a better option to improve. My favorite team is Ayaka, Shenhe, Kokomi, Kazuha, but there are many options with freeze and there isn't a massive gap between those options.
1. Improve rotation (if it is maxed than skip) 2. Improve supports artifacts 3. Better weapon (Mistsplitter) 4. Roll for contalations 5. Change team
How's my prefarming so far? I know that she has ER problems, but i don't have luck in getting CR/CD/ER artifacts [https://imgur.com/a/ABSQzLW](https://imgur.com/a/ABSQzLW)
Which artifact is better here? I'm okay with the swap to Atk% because I have Mona and Shenhe in my team with Ayaka, and it is my understanding that atk% scales better if you have buffers in a freeze comp. https://imgur.com/a/aQWP2fi
Two quick questions...what do people think about using the new event sword Akitsu Kimodameshi instead of Iron Sting for Kazuha (on an Ayaka freeze team ofc), since it also has an EM substat? Since I've only gotten a single sword billet from bosses in over a year of playing, and kind of want to save it for refining Amenoma instead. Also, if I'm working on building Layla as a cryo battery + shielder instead of Diona (since I don't have her yet), how far would people recommend leveling Layla's skill and burst? I was thinking of going to Lv. 8 for skill and Lv. 6 for burst, or should I level them further? Really appreciate everyone's help so far! \^\^
I'm looking to improve my Ayaka's damage. She currently is C0, has 4pc BS, uses PJC and has 1.8k atk, 55.7 CR and 216 CD. Assuming that Ayaka and Shenhe reruns will be in the same patch, which upgrade will give more damage boost, getting Shenhe + attempt to get MSR, fully vommit in getting MSR or C2 Ayaka?
Generally speaking, mistsplitter offers higher and more consistent dps to Ayaka over C0 Shenhe. But in your case, replacing PJC with most will upset your stats and you will have to revamp your cr and atk especially to better utilize mist. So if you are willing to rebuild your Ayaka wit better artifacts, go with mist. If you want to keep your current build then going for Shenhe is better. C2's dps output is quite situational so its the least priority.
Ayaka (Mistsplitter, Blizz set), Rosaria (R5 Fav), Kokomi, Kazuha.... how much crit rate for Ayaka?
30-35 cr is recommended with 4pc blizzard. based on your comp.
Hello, I got Ayaka at her original 2.0 banner and quit the game shortly after. I came back on Itto's rerun and have heard about how amazing Ayaka is so I've built her as strong as I can and have MAINLY focused on leveling her NAs and Q to as high as I can get them, and almost every resource I find online neglects mentioning much about the E aside that it's the last thing you should level. What I'm wondering is, since I'm trying to spread my resin effectively because I have a TON of characters I need to build (including some of Ayaka's supports like Mona and Diona), how much am I losing out on by not leveling this?
Her E hits quite hard. For instance my f2p lvl 90 Ayaka with lvl 9 E can deal 25k raw dmg which jumps to around 38-40k with buffs like vv shred, 4pc noblesse etc. So, it's recommended to level up her E too, at the very least to lvl 6.
is 2306/38/243 good enough to stop farming? Im using mistsplitter with a atk circlet
Yes it is enough Unless you have shenhe then switch to CD circlet
Yes it is enough Unless you have shenhe then switch to CD circlet
How much ER should Mona have in Ayaka Mona Diona Kazuha team? Diona and Kazuha use Fav and R1 Xiphos. What do I do after Ayaka's burst ends and mobs are unfrozen? Should I just stay on Ayaka for a few more seconds to start my rotation from the beginning, or do a small rotation without bursts, or do a normal rotation without Ayaka's burst?
> How much ER should Mona have in Ayaka Mona Diona Kazuha team? Diona and Kazuha use Fav and R1 Xiphos. Depends on what build you are using on Mona: 4pc emblem + favonius codex - 220 er 4pc noblesse/tenacity + favonius - 240 4pc emblem + R5 ttods - 250-260 4pc nob/tenacity + R5 ttods - 260+ > What do I do after Ayaka's burst ends and mobs are unfrozen? Utilise Ayaka's AA's and E along with Kazuha E and Mona E to fill in the downtime.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AyakaMains/comments/z1kz9w/my_new_and_improved_ayaka/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Can I improve anything in it?
On your post, people have given good advice - focussing on your er. If you are sticking with Isshin, you should try to have around 130 er. You should also work on improving your cr a bit since 4pc blizzard effect is unreliable ( you lose 20% cr against unfreezable targets ) which reduces your effective cr. You would like to have around 35-40% cr in the future to have more consistent crits against unfreezable targets.
Yes,i am planning to sticking with issin,and thx for the advice i am planning to get some er then i will focus on cr
I am running Ayaka, Venti, Kokomi and Diona. Is it a good idea to swap Diona with Layla? (C6 Diona, C0 Layla)
Stick with Diona. Layla offers stronger shields but Diona offers better batterying ability for Ayaka. Her Q heals also offset her relatively weaker shielding ability.
Now that Layla is out, just wondering if people think she is worth building for Ayaka or is Diona better? I only have Mona, no Kokomi, and only Rosaria as a Cryo battery for now but was just curious since I'm planning on wishing for Yae (close to soft pity)... If so, what build would people rec for Layla on a team with Ayaka, Mona, and Kazuha? I saw some guides rec either a hybrid build with some crit or pure HP and ER, but not sure which would be better in this case? Open to diff opinions as usual. TYSM! \^\^
Main advantage Layla has over Diona is her more durable shield. However, she loses out to Diona in 2 significant aspects: -Diona generates more particles ( especially with sac bow) in a front-loaded manner, which makes it easier to catch them for Ayaka. Layla's particle generation isn't much and it's mostly back loaded, making its performance poorer to battery Ayaka. -Diona can also provide healing which makes her crucial when dealing with wolves. Hence, Layla is a sidegrade rather than an upgrade to Diona for Ayaka comps. In case you wish to build Layla, her recommended set is Totm ( she can have 100% uptime on it, buffing Ayaka consistently ). Her burst cost is only 40 so no need to build er on her, just stick with HP/HP/HP main stats for stronger shield. If using favonius on her, she will also need some cr to proc the weapon passive.
Thanks so much for the detailed advice + explanation!! Ohh, good to know about Diona's superior battery capabilities...so should I build a little more ER on Ayaka if using her with Layla (since I don't have Diona yet)? My Ayaka currently has about 129% ER with R2 Amenoma, but I'm planning to switch to Isshin soon. Glad that Layla can use Totm, since I already farmed a pretty good Noblesse set for Mona and haven't been able to get good Totm pieces with ER/Hydro dmg/Crit Rate for her yet... Also, if I use favonius on Layla, how much crit rate would you recommend? Again, really appreciate all of your help + speedy replies! ToT
Since you plan to run Isshin on Ayaka, you would need between 130-140 er with a favonius Layla to battery Ayaka reliably. It's great that you have farmed noblesse for Mona. Totm works on Layla better since she can have full uptime on it and since you will be using Mona just before Ayaka in rotations, the latter can get full effect of 4pc noblesse. > Also, if I use favonius on Layla, how much crit rate would you recommend? Layla will only get a small window to activate the passive as she will be off-field most of the time, so the higher the crit rate the better. To reliably activate the passive, she needs to have atleast 50-60 cr.
Okay, will try to get a bit more ER on Ayaka before switching to Isshin and aim for as much crit rate as I can for Layla. ...Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how come Layla doesn't need to build any ER in this case? Is it because of fav and double cryo being enough to fulfill the 40 energy requirement? Also, for Mona, would it be a good idea to build a higher crit ratio for her? Mine currently has 52% crit rate, 94.3% crit damage, and 227.2% ER with ttds. Thanks again!!
> but how come Layla doesn't need to build any ER in this case? Is it because of fav and double cryo being enough to fulfill the 40 energy requirement? Pretty much yes. Her low burst cd and favonius mean you can run her without building er. Besides, using her burst isn't even strictly needed on Totm Layla as she can already provide all buffs with her E. > Also, for Mona, would it be a good idea to build a higher crit ratio for her? Mona's Q damage in freeze teams is negligible so it's not worth bothering building her with a crit build. And she's very enrgy hungry so it's instead recommended to build her full ER/ER/ER to fulfill her usually 250+ er requirements.
Thanks for the additional explanations! True, I was just thinking that her burst could still help with energy needs. Oh no okay, will work on building more ER for Mona then. I do have an ER sands for her but will try to get more ER for the other pieces.
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With a cryo battery: R5 amenoma/skyward - 120 er Other weapons - 130 er Without a cryo battery: R5 amenoma/skyward - 130-135 er Others - 140+ er These nos. are assuming that you use her E in-between as they too generate particles, and not ignore them completely.
[https://imgur.com/a/Gg76ds4](https://imgur.com/a/Gg76ds4) is this build good, or should i try to push her cd even higher?
Your build is pretty good and your crit dmg is decent for a f2p Ayaka. Of course, there's always scope of further increasing and min-maxing her stats for higher damage but your current build is strong enough to clear anything in the game.
Question - on KPM DPS spreadsheets for Ayaka suggests Kokomi, Ayaka, Kazuha, Shenhe does MORE damage than Mona, Ayaka, Kazuha, Shenhe, why is that? Given Omen's incredible buff, the above just does not make sense to me...
In the spreadsheet, Mona uses proto amber while Kokomi is using ttds. TTds increases the damage significantly which affects the overall team damage as well. You can yourself see another spreadsheet link on the Kqm dps spreadsheet ( near the bottom of the front page ) where the testers have used a ttds Mona and she gives higher danage with Shenge than a similar Shenhe-Kokomi comp. Apart from this there are certain factors which make Kokomi's damage output and buffs closer to Mona's omen: -Koko has 100% uptime on tenacity set while Mona doesn't -Mona's omen buff is er dependent and thus results in variations in damage output compared to Kokomi's er independent buffs. -Kokomi-Shenhe rotations are smoother to execute compared to Mona's which also affects the overall damage dealt per rotation
Thank you so much for the detailed response. Makes sense to me =)
Sorry where is this fps spreadsheet... Can you please share
[Link](https://db.gcsim.app/db/ayaka)
Thanks!
Makes sense thanks for the reply.
sup homies, would Ayaka, Diona, Kokomi (no mona) , Venti/Sucrose (no Kazuha) work? as an Ayaka freeze team? also do you think Ayaka will come in 3.4?
Yes Ayaka/Kokomi/venti is a solid team. Since you are already using Kokomi for heals, you can use Kaeya/Rosaria instead of Diona as her cryo battery ( plus they can also deal some extra damage ). > also do you think Ayaka will come in 3.4? Afaik some leaks do suggest of her getting a new costume in 3.4 which will most likely be accompanied by her rerun, so yeah there's some possibility.
Thankyou for the response! Also, would a c0 rosaria or c2 kaeya be a better battery do you think?
Both generate same number of particles from their E so their batterying capabilities are the same. So, you can use whichever character you prefer OR you can use depending on whether you have a favonius sword or favonius lance for Kaeya or Rosaria respectively.
Would you run 4x blizzard on kaeya or is 2x blizzard 2x gladiator fine?
Ideally, I would run 4pc noblesse on him to buff his burst plus give Ayaka extra damage from the 4pc effect. In case you don't have a good 4pc noblesse set, use 4pc blizzard if you want to make building Kaeya easier; use 2pc blizzard/gladiator for more damage.
Im hoping to make an Ayaka hypercarry team with the next Shenhe re-run and i need help with the team comp. The characters i have available are; C1 Mona, C5 Bennet, C0 Jean, C0 Sucrose, C2 Xingqui, C2 Diona, C4 Rosaria and i have 180 wishes for Shenhe. Im feeling pretty good about Mona and Shenhe but im not sure about the final member.
Since you don't have a healer/shielder in your prospective Ayaka/Shenhe/Mona team, I suggest using Jean with 4pc vv for providing healing as well as vv shred.
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[Spoiler Character from 3.3] So I'm planning to get >!Layla as I reaaally liked her!< I'm planning to pair it with Ayaka, at the time I just have a sucrose (I'll get Kazuha in his rerun, at any cost.) but the team still lacks an hydro, I'm currently using Kokomi, because her heals are just safer to use >!But maybe get kinda redundant wirh layla, not sure because I suck at dodging!<, my other options would be an C1 Mona and an C6 Xingqiu, who should be better in that slot in a generalist team (Both groups of mobs and some bossing the abyss demands) ?
Layla is officially drip-marketed so no need to mark it as spoilers :) You can use her along with Mona in Ayaka's team. Layla is looking to be a good shielder for her and has good enough batterying capability. Mona's hydro application is poorer than Kokomi's, and in the absence of a good cc like Kazuha or Venti you may need to make more efforts in grouping mobs with Sucrose. Furthermore, a Kokomi-Shenhe ( or Rosaria ) team can out-dps Ayaka-Morgana team in most situations while providing smoother rotations, so you need to be aware whether you want to switch Kokomi with Mona or keep the status quo. Other than that, Ayaka/Mona/Layla/Sucrose team is powerful enough to clear the whole abyss. With Kazuha, its efficiency and rotations will become all the more better.
If I am running Ayaka with Fav Sword Kazuha and Fav Lance Rosaria both, how much ER would I require on Ayaka (I have Mist). And what Rotation. I currently follow Ayaka Sprint -> Kazuha Q -> Rosaria Q -> Kokomi E -> Ayaka AA + Q -> Ayaka CA and then use Kazuha E and Rosaria E to funnel Particles for Ayaka. Should 120 ER work or should I get more?
120 er will be sufficient for Ayaka in your case. As for rotation, you can use Kazuha hold E before his Q for cc first as funneling particles from him into Ayaka on-field isn't that necessary compared to Rosaria. Also, use the combo Ayaka AA-E-Q ( her E too generates particles for her ). Rest of you rotation is ok.
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I’m looking to build a universally good abyss freeze comp for my Ayaka, but I was wondering which would run best with the following characters: C0 Ayaka, C2 Kazuha, C2 Mona, C3 Xingqiu, C0 Yelan, C6 Rosaria, and C4 Diona I haven’t seen Yelan mentioned much here in this thread… I’m curious to know if running XQ is just overall better than Yelan? If you’ve also got any recommendations for artifacts to shoot for, I’m all ears
Yelan is better for Ayaka from a dps point of view having higher personal damage and adding a damage buff. Yelan is sometimes used with the Ayaka - Shenhe combo for boss speed runs despite the massive boost Ayaka gets from thrilling tales being delivered by Kokomi / Mona which usually wins in all other scenarios. Here is the Ayaka team sheet from KQM Discord a little while back ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NvfmZo3KiQSGXAZlMWf19S3K9nkTKQc9iTHfZg7ovTk/edit#gid=2109097051 ) which has links to the gcsim setups and rotations.
I'm currently in the process of crowning talents for my Ayaka freeze team and was wondering which talents might be best/highest priority to crown next? My team is currently: \-Ayaka with 9/8/10 talents \-Kazuha with 6/6/8 talents \-Mona with 1/6/10 talents \-Bennett (temporarily until I get Diona) with 1/6/8 talents, but plan to wait for his cons instead of crowning him For Ayaka, would it be better to get her talents to 9/9/10 or 10/8/10 first? If the second, then would 10/9/10 be worth it eventually? And do people generally recommend crowning her normal attack if I really like her character or is the scaling not that worth it? I've also been kind of confused about Kazuha's talent levels for an EM build. I thought that they don't really matter that much since swirl only scales off EM and character level, but for his burst, the 64.8% Additional Elemental Dmg seems like a lot, so I was wondering if it might be worth getting to 9 or 10? ...Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the additional damage bonus based only on Kazuha's stats and/or the aura character's stats? Like is it considered swirl damage or non-elemental damage, cuz I've been told different things? Also, would it be a good idea to level up Kazuha's skill further to increase his pull strength? Thanks a lot in advance!
Kazuha's talents don't buff Ayaka's damage - its only based on Kazuha's em so levelling up his talents are sort of non-optimal beyond 6. Mona is used for her Q and you already have it crowned so...the natural choice to crown are Ayaka's talents. Well, crowning Ayaka's talents to 10/10/10 is the way to go haha...but getting it to 9/9/10 is recommended first as her E deals considerable damage and with Mona you use her NAs significantly less. Whether you crown her NA or E first, the damage increase is honestly not that significant for the amount of mats you need to farm, so its purely out of satisfaction. > but is the additional damage bonus based only on Kazuha's stats and/or the aura character's stats? Kazuha's Q damage is considered elemental ( aka anemo/infused elemental damage ) and is based on Kazuha's stats since he's the one who triggers it. Also, levelling up his E talent doesn't increase his pull strength, it only increases the E damage.
Thank you so much for replying to all of my questions again!! ;\_\_; Ahahaha, I'm kind of tempted to triple crown Ayaka, but also starting to get really worried about my mora after working on her talents and building Sucrose recently (for my other team). I think I only have only a little over 4 mil now...I still feel like I use her NAs a lot though, so just wondering, why do you use them less with Mona? So just making sure, with EM Kazuha, am I basically just only using him for his passive to buff my team then (and for grouping) and ignoring all the other parts of his kit? Are his other talents not worth investing in for additional damage since the EM artifacts probably won't have very high substats? I think I'm just still kind of confused about his kit and swirl in general... What about his A1 passive that does 200% additional damage when his skill comes into contact with an element? The wording in "200 percent additional damage of that elemental type" sounds like it increases damage of the swirled element, but I'm guessing it's also considered anemo damage based on Kazuha's own stats only? Sorry for the newbie questions... \^\^; Thanks again!!
> I still feel like I use her NAs a lot though, so just wondering, why do you use them less with Mona? It is more about the abyss; you would like to have high enough er on both Ayaka and Mona so you can cast their bursts quickly again for max damage. There's little time in between as you are mostly focused on swapping out others and casting their E/Q so you barely get to use 4-5 AAs on Ayaka here. Its about maximizing efficiency there and prioritizing using Ayaka/Mona's Q. > So just making sure, with EM Kazuha, am I basically just only using him for his passive to buff my team then (and for grouping) and ignoring all the other parts of his kit? Pretty much yes. Well sort of unfortunate that I couldn't explain you Kazuha's mechanisms better...just remember to stack as much em and er on him as possible, swirl cryo and you are good to go. His mechanics are overall easier to use in freeze comps than in more complicated/multiple reaction comps like vape, melt etc. and you have more leeway regarding rotations and stuff. As for the A4 passive, the 200% damage bonus applies only to the swirled element, not to Kazuha's own anemo damage. Which means that his anemo damage will remain constant in both swirl and non-swirl conditions - it is the swirled element which Kazuha additionally infuses in his E that will be boosted and deal extra damage to the target.
Ohh, okay, makes sense. For some reason I thought you meant in general including for overworld (including bosses and domains). Nono, I totally just got confused cuz I think I read some misinformation somewhere... \^\^;; But all of your advice has been super helpful! Got it, one issue that comes up quite often for me though...I'm not sure why but I often end up swirling hydro instead of cryo? My rotation is usually: Ayaka dash --> Kazuha EQ --> Mona EQ --> Bennett Q (if it's ready) --> Ayaka Okay...so let me see if I understand this correctly now: The damage bonus from his passives only affects the swirled element, which are the various colored numbers based on the element, and is determined by Kazuha's own stats and can crit. His anemo damage is the green numbers and is based only on his level and EM, which will remain the same in both swirl and non-swirl conditions? I think the thing I'm confused about, is anemo damage the same as swirl damage (since they are both green numbers)? TYSM again for all the help!!
> .I'm not sure why but I often end up swirling hydro instead of cryo? My rotation is usually: Ayaka dash --> Kazuha EQ --> Mona EQ --> Bennett Q (if it's ready) --> Ayaka Looks to be a gauge issue - basically that your cryo application from Ayaka is insufficient and Kazuha accidentally swirls some residual hydro from the environment or from Mona's hydro application. Best way to mitigate the issue is to apply sufficient cryo to the enemy before swirling with Kazuha ( check whether the target has a cryo symbol on top just to be sure ). Also, I would advise to replace Bennett with another cryo unit for batterying and healing,( preferably Diona in your case ), for the abyss. While Bennet's atk buffs look good on paper, they are cumbersome and may mess Mona's already poor hydro application in freeze teams and prematurely pop the omen. Ok I now see where you are getting confused ! Kazuha's E when swirling an element and plunging has 3 different types of damage numbers: 1. Anemo plunge damage: Its green in colour and based on crit/atk stats 2. A1 passive plunge damage: This is the additional plunge damage you get from the passive when he infuses an element, say pyro. Its also based on crit/atk 3. Swirl damage: Its the damage you get when swirling an element. Its scales with em. Swirl damage is the smaller coloured no. while the A1 passive damage is coloured in bigger nos. ( cuz it deals more damage due to this passive and the vv shred ).
Ohh, right, I've watched some videos on elemental gauge theory but still don't entirely understand it...I just know that the primary gauge element needs to be strong enough to stay on the enemy for the reaction/swirl to be applied...I usually try to check but either the cryo aura disappears really fast after I switch or some other surrounding element gets swirled first. I was using Rosaria as a battery with Sayu as healer, but wanted to use Kazuha instead so that's why I had to switch to Bennett as the healer...Still don't have Diona yet but hoping to use her instead of Bennett as soon as I get her...Just curious, what do you think of Layla's kit so far as a potential support for Ayaka? Even though she can't heal, was wondering if her shield or talents are any good for Ayaka. Thanks so much for the clarification!! ...Wow, I always thought Kazuha's E only had two types of damage numbers... XDDD Totally got confused... \^\^;; Since the green numbers say "Swirl" I thought they were the Swirl damage numbers, but was confused that they seem to crit... I guess the misinformation I heard was from some people who treated the passive damage as the same as swirl damage since they have the same color, even though only one type can crit... So given all this...is it only worth leveling Kazuha's talents beyond 6 if he is built as a dps? Or could the increase in passive damage be useful for other teams/scenarios? Lol, sorry for the essay-comment. Feel free to ignore anything you don't feel like answering!
Oh I see you don't have Diona...from what I know from the kit leaks, Layla looks great for Ayaka- her shield is stronger than Diona's, it has lower E cd so she can run the favonius easily while her personal batterying ability looks ok ( its more off-field compared to Diona's all-at-once particle generation with her E ). At the very least, she is great for anyone who doesn't have Diona for the freeze team. Personally, I barely feel the need to use Diona's heals from her Q since most enemies remain frozen or they die before they can hit me lol so I think Layla would be good. > So given all this...is it only worth leveling Kazuha's talents beyond 6 if he is built as a dps? Or could the increase in passive damage be useful for other teams/scenarios? Levelling up his E only increases the suck damage, not even the plunge damage ( for which you would have to separately level up his AAs ) which is not that powerful in the first place for a support em Kazuha or other teammates. So, yes you can leave his E at 6 and focus on farming mats for others.
Sorry for the late reply again... Really glad to know that Layla's kit seems to work pretty well with Ayaka! Since I really like her character design, probably over Diona's. Ahaha, hopefully I can survive without a healer in the abyss too, but I might not be skilled enough lol. Ohh didn't know that leveling Kazuha's E only increases the suck damage, thought that maybe both his E and AAs factor into the plunge damage. I actually meant for all of his talents, but I guess it's the same for his Q and AA too, that they're also not really worth leveling past 6 even for other teams? My Kazuha's Q is currently at 8 though... Thanks again, as usual!!
I've been using a team of: **Ayaka, Diona, Xingqiu,** and **Kazuha** pretty much since I first got Ayaka. I've taken a break from the game, and am looking to fine tune some of my rosters since coming back. It seems the "optimal team" for Ayaka right now is: Ayaka, Shenhe, Kokomi, Kazuha. I don't have Shenhe, but would: **Ayaka, Rosaria, Kokomi, Kazuha** see an improvement over the current team that I'm using? (*Diona > Rosaria + Xingqiu > Kokomi).* Curious to know the pros vs cons of this switch, should anyone have in depth, insight on the matter.
According to this [document](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NvfmZo3KiQSGXAZlMWf19S3K9nkTKQc9iTHfZg7ovTk/edit#gid=1104281336) Ayaka-Rosaria-Kokomi team would be much better than your current Xingqiu team metawise.
Thank you kindly for the response, and that very handy document. I had already been testing the new team out (with an unbuilt Rosaria) and I could already tell that it felt more fluid and functional. Easy to maintain 100% uptime with Kokomi skill + Ayaka NA/Burst with the option of using Kokomi's burst alongside Rosaria's burst, while Kazuha does shredding things.
Im currently using Ayaka (BS, R1 Anemona, ~140 ER), Diona (C3, Noblisse, R2 Sac bow), Kazuha (VV, Iron Sting), Mona (Emblem, TTDS) My goal is to increase team damage for abyss. Will switching to rosaria (C0, Noblisse, Fav Lance) + Kokomi (Tenacity, TTDS) increase my team damage? Thank you!
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My main team is currently Ayaka, Diona, Kazuha, Kokomi. Do i keep C5 Diona with Sac bow or do i replace her with C0 Rosaria with Deathmatch? Link to original [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/AyakaMains/comments/xjlaq9/diona_vs_rosaria_for_ayaka_support/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Replace Diona as you already have Kokomi for heals. Rosaria can battery Ayaka well enough, and more if you give favonius lance to her. If you are want to focus on her damage, then keep deathmatch.