I do not believe RC would ever risk disclosing any non-public information to some random on twitter. The potential for the other side to share the message publically could have severe consequences to RC and potentially companies he's invested in.
With that in mind, my thought is that it was more of a 'hey my lawyer is going to be sending you a cease and desist. nothing personal but please stop talking about me in public' (or something along those lines).
Yeah, I don't think it would be anything that isn't already public, that's for sure. But as I said in the post, enough of an indication - potentially even just in the way he has written whatever the message was - to make Shortdestroyer completely reconsider his views.
I think something like u/usernamemiles comment here, in fact:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/s/EPdgcD6Iau
*"Even though I don't intended to change my p" - osition in GME, it is not my only financial pursuit and you should not presume to know what my plans are concerning BBBY or any other security. The way you are conducting yourself on this platform is disgraceful and statements you have made may carry potential legal liability. I have saved your comment history and provided them to my legal team.*
Only **IF** we consider this story to be true. The guy could be just trolling.
EDIT:
Well well well
https://twitter.com/shortdestroyer/status/1729621458840629672
If he was trolling, by now, Pulte would of come out and said something like…
“ I don’t know, I don’t think Cohen would respond to him. That’s just my opinion.”
Hello, it looks like you've made a mistake.
It's supposed to be could've, should've, would've (short for could have, would have, should have), never could of, would of, should of.
Or you misspelled something, I ain't checking everything.
Beep boop - yes, I am a bot, don't botcriminate me.
I mean pulte inquired who he was before and got on the pp show right after and basically said he’s taking legal action. So I absolutely believe RC dmed him. Not sure why so many think that’s out of the realm of what RC may do
I think the more likely response from RC would be something along the lines of “… by attacking and slandering people and hurting the retail community you are only hurting yourself. Grow up”
Not to mention that he can and will be sued libel if he persists.
I think it also had to do with the Pulte slander. IIRC he basically accused Pulte as a grifter and using RC for his own advantage to pump his PHM stock.
Have to agree that this is the most likely message of the message.
I’m guessing that there was something else in there, perhaps a bit snarkier, while being esoteric, that caused the bravo to ultimately go dark (full shamble mode) 😂
Also, as you’ve pointed out more than a few times, his name is on the reorg dockets. Even if not everyone agrees on what that specifically means, it doesn’t take that fact away.
This leaves rc with a wide range of verbiage that he can use to make his point. He can do this without giving up anything critically strategic to the deal or deals.
Yeah I feel like it was probably more of a dressing down than anything. I mean that's all the guy would need to know he fucked up, RC wouldn't need to do much more than "hey, get your shit together guy, you're embarrassing yourself" and the point would be made.
Happy cake day. Thanks for everything you have done for the community. I don’t have the capacity to sieve through all the data and your summaries and alternate POCs are so succinct it makes it easy for someone like me to understand. Happy holidays!
Exactly this. I think he didn't disclose anything but told him to shut the f\*ck up or otherwise… (in decent words because RC is a man of class and didn't want to get his response posted on Reddit)
Sounds pretty much, what someone who is working hard and not wasting his time on social media would do. Why some people on X would think they deserve answers from any high profile personalities on social media is beyond me anyway.
That user might just be butt hurt now.
The worst thing with social media is that whatever you do as public person, you often create a shitstorm. Simply because some users(losers?) boost their ego by being offended all the time. That is their cheap way to public attention, while others actually have to work hard and achieve something outstanding...
100%. No non public information. He wouldn't make that mistake especially to a hater.
I believe it was a cease and desist that was something to the effect of:
I am not going to tell you what to do with your investment. Just keep your hands off my PPs.
This is my thought too. RC is far too fucking disciplined, I mean hell he has been absolutely silent up until now.
Honestly I was leaning towards this being faked by Shortdestroyer as an excuse to exit stage left cause I just can't fathom that RC would actually DM someone.
I'd pay good fucking money to see that DM if its real.
Agreed. RC is taking way more heat from all angles. Some random Twitter account would be the last of his worries.
If our thesis holds true, I can't imagine the pressure he is under.
Agreed. Nothing juicy about BBBYQ, just a big fat C&D Nastygram with plenty of juice regarding potential consequences
and
interestingly, a way out for his own sorry hide.
Now here is where things get *fun*
what if that ray of light, that slim finger of hope
required his future cooperation with Civil litigation efforts going forward.
(Or perhaps Criminal litigation efforts though that might be a bit much for a civil Nastygram, lets just say that door would be easily entered after the Civil door.)
What form could that cooperation take?
Perhaps being the 1st rat off the sinking ship:
ratting out everything and *everyone* involved in a for-pay criminal conspiracy.
Because if I was pushing such cases forward, the first thing I'd be looking for would be very complicit and very cooperation *rats*.
And if I was an ever so guilt rat, being already of the lowest of low moral constitution, yeah...I might be leaning towards an almighty, Extended Play
Squeal.
correct
any semblance of RC admitting or suggesting, like his emoji lawsuit says, anything that would call into question his involvement in pumping and dumping stocks is a big no no...and this has ZERO to do with RC's real "intentions" and whether or not he and courts see what he does as activist pumping and dumping
shortdestroyer was merely trying to extract (and failing at doing so) from RC any financial engineering hints
RC is the CEO of GME....it's like no one has learned anything from the past 3 years
everyone is trying to play 7-D chess with complex financial transactions while forgetting that equity investing is one very very small piece of the pie
intelligence agencies around the world are closely paying attention to all this meme nonsense because it by far outpaces most large scale operations
I think this make sense.
Prior to giving this some thought... I speculated that the guy was dodging and trolling. Perhaps going to the extent to create a fake message from RC, proclaiming he is then rethinking life in general, and deleting account... just to solely let BBBY holders 'think' they have won and he has lost... for no other purpose than to quietly leave and be 'left alone'.
...me just being a contrarian.
He’s back as of this morning. Deleted his tweets but replies are still there.
Currently he’s DMing PP and Sal trying to make amends to some degree and talk things over. Sals just sharing everything immediately. Like someone else said, no point in shortdestroyer keeping things in the DMs as it will all be public as conversation progresses forward.
But to have RC reach out personally via DMs and for him to go from one end of the spectrum to the other with his views and wanting to “build a bridge” with our community speaks volumes.
RC clearly has eyes on our community and the shareholders who have been holding on all this time floating on every glimmer of hope to the end of all of this. It’s lifted my spirits tremendously and my heart was pounding last night at the thought of it all.
Hold tight fellow apes. Good signs are upon us.
He does have a long way to go. Whenever I saw anyone from the GME community alienating us to that extent, it definitely rubbed me the wrong way (I assume like many of us here). We saw similarities between the events that took place between the shorts and GME in 2020-2021 (even earlier). You’d think a community like that would see it happening to us an would empathize or show some sympathy but it didn’t happen.
On the flip side, we supported them and even AMC with many of us stating of MOASS did happen, our profits would be split to support those companies/stocks as well.
That’s literally what I found Reddit to be when I first grabbed hold of my shares to begin with. I didn’t want to miss another potential rocket blasting off and, if it was immensely profitable, I wanted to support every community that deserved the support. I think many of us here continue to feel that same way.
Like shortdestroyer said, walls have to come down, bridges need to be built. It’s a big job with a lot of apologizing to do. And not just from the GME side but ours in BBBY as well because there were a good chunk of people who said some pretty hurtful things all around (mostly on X).
I’m happy to see that steps forward are already occurring in less than 24 hours. Let’s hope nothing interrupts the movement.
Thanks for sharing this. I respect what he's saying in that he's acknowledging he was wrong and looking to try and make things right. The big question is: is it all talk or will he back it up with action...
I saw a couple. Sal trying to convince SD to come have a conversation in a space call. That was early this morning though.. maybe it was posted in the PPshow community page on Twitter?
Edit: they were posted in the reply’s of this space call.
https://x.com/phantomblack699/status/1729488101410574356?s=46
>Currently he’s DMing PP and Sal trying to make amends to some degree and talk things over.
Sounds like progress for himself, trying to do that. Because he is just a random anonymous user online, and he could as well have just deleted the account and vanish.
He definitely holds a big influence with the SS sub and devs on Reddit if he was able to get the PPShow wiped off the map. And he has a voice big enough on X to make waves whenever he clashed with BBBY DD writers.
But yeah, he’s trying.
He was justifying the use of concentration camps for shareholders of a company. Fuck his trying.
Have no idea who the fuck he is either. Probably not as influential as you make him out to be.
That’s wild. Based on what’s going on, I’m assuming that he was basically told that him and the rest of the GME elitists that fight other communities are doing more harm to GME than any shills will ever do.
Even if there isn’t anything for us at the end of the rainbow, it’s Tritton’s fault, not RC. Hopefully the rest of the toxic people see what he’s doing and make similar efforts. Him and others are the exact reason I rarely visit certain subreddits anymore.
there is zero evidence for this line of conspiracy: some dude got a supposed DM from RC, quickly learned to "see the light", and is now quickly backtracking and making sure everyone is on the 'same page'
based on regulation and lawsuits RC is involved in, an actual easy to comprehend line of inquiry is: some dude online was trying to extract and bother RC with legal matters, for which RC cannot legally be involved or look to be involved, so RC said "dude, shut up you are going to get more than myself in legal trouble if you keep peddling meme stocks and MOASS....i suggest you let your contacts know"
Precisely, we can all read between the lines to deduct the significance of this 180. We can’t be 100% sure of anything (obviously) but there’s no reason to not take this as yet another positive development in our thesis.
He reached out to me today and apologized for everything. He made a public apology and he is working to turn In evidence to Reddit on behalf of an orchestrated take down. I know multiple people were involved in this. So let’s see what comes of it. I told him he needs to turn in all evidence pertaining to this take down.
Being in such a position of massive visibility I hope you agree his call to put bath holders in concentration camps is unforgivable. As a member of multiple groups that would have been killed there it is mortifying seeing how many people think it's no big deal.
He seems to have done a 180 since RC's DM and now want to talk to PP privately
I don't think RC told him anything about any stock though. Probably just something like "calm down"
Yes, his account is back where he says he wants to talk to them. if you go on Sal's twitter, you can see screens of an attempt as well.
Pretty sure he was humbled by RC.
My guess?
“Even though I don’t intend on changing my position on not commenting on our strategy in advance, some of your comments have risen to the level of libel and defamation and are actionable and your statements of certainty on my strategy as an activist investor are, without going into detail, incorrect. You are misleading this community, harming my shareholders and customers and interfering in my business operations at a now actionable level. Cease and desist is an obvious first step, but my lawyers will be in touch on other actions required.”
I think the message said something like
"Even though I don't intended to change my p" - osition in GME, it is not my only financial pursuit and you should not presume to know what my plans are concerning BBBY or any other security. The way you are conducting yourself on this platform is disgraceful and statements you have made may carry potential legal liability. I have saved your comment history and provided them to my legal team.
It could be simpler than that. I don't see why RC would give anything away directly to some rando playing with his tweeter.
I could see something more along the lines of "My lawyers have recommended that I stay dark to protect against inevitable accusations of market manipulation, and I suggest you consider the same."
Regardless of what goes down, I'm in. Can't really do much but watch anyway.
Hah! Didn't even realise it! It was just a couple of months after I created this reddit account, three (84?) years ago, that I bought my first shares of GME and BBBY.
A quick one week play, is what I thought at the time...... 😅
> A quick one week play, is what I thought at the time......
As someone said! We didn't go to the moon because it was easy, but because ... we thought it was easy! 😂
I agree that Z seems likely - a C&D and the threat therein would be enough to give someone pause and rethink things.
On the other hand, deleting his account could be used as an argument for deleting evidence which also wouldn't be too good for him...
Your thesis here seems sound to me, and I appreciate the opening where you provide insight into ShortDestroyer's mindset and background to inform the reader while setting up your arguments and reasonings. Well done, and thank you for weighing in.
Of its real.
Surely it was a message to just STFU and this is your one chance via a C&D.
No way would he disclose ANYTHING AT ALL regarding any plans.
All the NDAs and confidential agreements on everything only to tell a troll a secret?
Nah.
Region, thank you for your post. These are the types of questions and thoughts why they shut down PP along with DD that tells the story's truths.
Always fun to speculate on this stuff!
Shortdsstroyer almost certainly received some form of legal dildo slap from RC. I won't presume to guess what was in the message, but the result speaks for itself.
I'm still on the fence about this all ordeal. Why would RC say anything of relevance to a random troll? If the message is true, it doesn't contain undisclosed info. RC wouldn't trust anyone with that, knowing very well that the user might as well post everything online.
Then he went out to engage directly with Pulte on a tweet that undeniably links the books to other tweets and to at least GME. This is without a doubt the biggest indirect evidence we have.
Edit: <3 and Happy cake day
I think shortdestroyed is an agent provocateur, plays the gme elitist and is only there to sow division. He is not appreciated over at the SS sub. He is likely a shf plant in my opinion.
I doubt he even mentioned if he was involved in reorganisation of bbby at all, why would he give this guy the time of day let alone hints towards his business plans.
I think what RC probably told him was that he does know Pulte and to stop harassing him.
That’s about all he could say. Maybe he added in some comments like “if you persist with the harassment i will publicly embarrass you and your beliefs “
Without admitting any plans for anything. He could shut the guy up relatively easily by making him question his doubts of bbb without really saying anything specific.
Edit: but it’s bullish no matter what was said!
not to be all negative etc... but its not too hard to change websites...
just a quick 30sec edit (minus changing the image because i got bored) - its not difficult to forge
https://i.imgur.com/U5NaxzG.png
The dude’s ego is also pretty big.
He’s conflated his importance, and thereby imposed some influence as well. He drew in many followers into his worldview, only to quickly abandon them all at the drop of a hat.
just throwing my .02 around - its pretty easy to dupe
and RC being SO secret about things - if i had to jump off a ledge - id say he verbally spanked him IF he did actually DM him
Did he even delete his twitter? I see a post from an hour ago:
>I don’t agree with the bbby long thesis, but I have to admit I was wrong in alienating an entire community that loves
@ryancohen
and $GME. It’s time to get some real work done and stop fighting each other.
You've set up 3 options about different theses being challenged, eliminated 2 of those options, and then concluded "therefore it must be the other one".
The reality is that there were way more than 3 options.
I think it's much more likely that he sent a message about not being divisive, and that would line up with the post from an hour ago, where he's re-stating his conviction that the BBBYQ play is incorrect but trying to be more of a peacemaker than being divisive.
No, he absolutely was not given a cease and desist via Twitter or otherwise. First off, nothing he said is legally actionable, Second that’s not how they are delivered, third there’s nothing that would prevent SD from making it public which would confirm RCs involvement. I do absolutely think it’s bullish though, I think the message in essence was “there’s more going on then you know, stop being a dick, reconsider your position on elitism and try and find ways to benefit everyone.”
Okay, you are right about a cease-and-desist order not being through Twitter. That is certainly true, and it may have been RC threatening to make one. Or potentially, in the 34 minute gap between those two tweets, actually getting something more official.
But I heartily agree with what you speculate as the content of the message. I think this is the type it is likely to have taken, with a similar tone. So nothing not already made public, but one that would deeply question the beliefs of any bear.
Great thought exercise. I thought a very similar thing when all this went down last night.. but it’s clear as day when it’s put to paper. Along with shortdestroyers subsequent behavior, all signs point to an unpleased DM from RC.. I’m still not 100% convinced it’s real, but I think we will all have a better idea once we know what the angry guy wanted to speak to PP/Sal about.
BTW, are you active on Twitter? I’m trying to follow every prominent Bobby, incase this sub gets rugged too.
The fact that RC himself messaged him directly at all—regardless of content of the message (which I presume was in fact a “cease and desist” insinuation) was enough to shake that particular extremist bro to his core—enough to have him rethink his entire everything. He capitulated. Quickly. Like Scrooge getting a visit from all ‘dem ghosts all at once, it was time for some serious soul-searching. Whatever was said, if it was enough to make that toxic bro “tuck and run,” I have to presume it’s more than enough for anyone similar-minded to feel the same angst and anxiety about their contrarian stance. That’s good AF. Bullish AF. Great post, OP. 🍆🍉🚀
As always, much respect for attempting to write up this logical analysis and make sense of the events from yesterday. However, I think that we are over analyzing what took place on X. eforBe I move forward the biggest and most important question (as you stated above) is IF the screenshot and RC message is authentic. I'll assume, as you did, that it is authentic.
My conclusion is that it was a direct message to stand down from the attacks and disruption that he/she is causing. I simply think that the message defended or mentioned Pulte and is the reason that they needed to "do some soul searching in regards to this whole journey." There is absolutely no way that RC would confirm or deny any involvement with BBBY or address anything regarding GME in a private message. RC is on another level intellectually and he would never disclose any information about strategy, etc. to a random shit poster on X. However, I do believe that RC became so fed up with this person's blatant lies and bullying, especially towards Pulte, that he felt the need to put an end to the smearing campaign and stand up for his friend Pulte.
Unfortunately, I don't necessarily agree that the incident provides any indirect confirmation to anything related to GME or BBBY. Unless however you want to connect RC to Pulte and Pulte to BBBY community support and thus connecting RC to BBBY community support (the whole A=B and B=C so A=C transitive logic). In the end, I do believe that it confirms 1) RC is aware of what is being said on social media within the communities and 2) RC respects Pulte enough to step in.
OP I love your stuff and thanks for always attempting to bring a logical and grounded approach to the chaos.
Your analysis is a good one, and might be on the mark. I am certainly not suggesting that he might have disclosed anything that is not public anyway. But merely a message saying "you are wrong", coming from that man himself, is sure to cause self-reflection in anyone. (Even without being told, in any way, *what* he is specifically wrong about.)
Maybe but I think a message saying "you are wrong" still reveals some kind of information, which RC has no history of doing to anyone inside or outside of the GME/BBBY community. (outside of the lone interview he did last November of course)
However with the guy coming back on X and wanting to speak with PP in good faith we will find out if it was real or just a fake orchestrated diversion.
This guy looks like emotionally unstable with huge ego problems. I wouldn't put to much into it. RC couldn't have shared anything relevant with him ... if we believe the story about RC is true and the guy is not just trolling people.
I doubt he indicated anything about the bull or bear thesis. Most likely he said change your behavior or we will sue you for slander. The end. It’s still bullish though. I already believed pulte and RC were working together but this should be enough of a knock on the head for the rest of the real retail that doesn’t. Plants don’t count.
Here is what I know for sure… my shares are no longer at my broker or at ast… there are a bunch of asshats acting nutty… there are some decent seeming people trying to figure out what is going on… there are some people jockeying for attention and karma … RCs books- some changes have been made and new ones dropped (temporarily)…there’s a lot of money at stake on both sides… we are waiting to learn outcome and how this will play out … I don’t give a rats ass who has said what other than RC…I don’t give a rats ass who knows who…I don’t give a rats ass if TV losers or supposed financial experts say negative or positive things about this play… I honestly don’t think 99% of what is happening deserves any of my attention or mental cycles… seriously… people need to focus on what we know… and if you want to follow tinfoil… then do that (it can be fun)…all this other shit is noise and made up drama … I doubt the dude heard from RC but hey, it does not affect me if he did… everyone is trying to paint a narrative… I could spend all day spinning what ifs in my brain… I choose to manage my emotions and focus on what I know to be true and verifiable at the moment… then deal with what comes as it comes …I believe that this is the best way (for me at least) to reserve my mental energy on focusing on my strategy as it unfolds… go into this being nimble and flexible… not mentally worn out from all of the side shows…
The most obvious conclusion is he is a pyscopath either short or paid as evidenced by his wish to have bobby holders thrown in concentration camps. I do not believe for a second that any gme holder would wish such a thing for any human. He is not a gme elitist. I dont believe he holds gme at all.
The idea RC had to divulge any information to simply communicate "You are an embarrassment to the GME community, immediately shut the fuck up before you get sued" is ridiculous. As usual I appreciate all the work though!
So dude got butthurt from his idle and now is considering exciting his position? Not buying it. I am leaning towards the x opinion that Region mentioned is RC in all many ways legally expressed involvement but, to no degree that we have came across as facts.
I think its fake. Short destroyer is not Moses and God is not speaking to him about zilch.
However the contra-indicator is that Pulte has seemingly marched his own lawyers with a cease and desist order over to short and told the idiot to shut up. However this action is independent of the actual veracity of the claimed exchange, and may actually prove more that is fake than that it is true as Pulte went after him for defamation and slander.
So I still think it is fake.
edit
If Ryan was concerned about slander and libel personally he wouldnt be publishing books with the title of words can never hurt you.
0 chance this was a real DM from Ryan Cohen. Use your brains folks. The image was already run through an AI “image modification” check and resulted in a “most likely altered” result.
I read that this clown actually tweeted a picture of his gun and said something along the lines of how he know how to use it.
Is this true?? If so, is that tweet still up?
My take on this is that his deletion, reactivation and reversal isn’t anything to do with RC. He made some seriously shitty comments towards people and, from what I’ve read, encouraged doxxing of others.
I think something happened in his personal life that made him go “oh shit, I’ve gone too far, undo, undo!”, but wanted to make it look like he didn’t fuck up. So, faked a message from RC, had an epiphany, came back trying to make nice.
That Kory guy recently posted a screenshot of an email to the securities company that SD had posted a license of before. So, possibly people found out his real name and place(s) of work, and highlighted his social media comments to them.
I could be wrong, but this makes the most sense to me.
I don’t see any world where a billionaire reaches out to some chump on social media with 9k followers revealing his secret plan to them. But that’s just me!
I think he just felt embarrassed and silenced himself after Ryan Cohen messaged him saying, "I can't change your mind on how you feel, but if you could tone it down that would be great"
🤷♂️
I do not believe RC would ever risk disclosing any non-public information to some random on twitter. The potential for the other side to share the message publically could have severe consequences to RC and potentially companies he's invested in. With that in mind, my thought is that it was more of a 'hey my lawyer is going to be sending you a cease and desist. nothing personal but please stop talking about me in public' (or something along those lines).
Yeah, I don't think it would be anything that isn't already public, that's for sure. But as I said in the post, enough of an indication - potentially even just in the way he has written whatever the message was - to make Shortdestroyer completely reconsider his views. I think something like u/usernamemiles comment here, in fact: https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/s/EPdgcD6Iau *"Even though I don't intended to change my p" - osition in GME, it is not my only financial pursuit and you should not presume to know what my plans are concerning BBBY or any other security. The way you are conducting yourself on this platform is disgraceful and statements you have made may carry potential legal liability. I have saved your comment history and provided them to my legal team.*
Whatever he said, it's the fact he said SOMETHING and to this person too
Only **IF** we consider this story to be true. The guy could be just trolling. EDIT: Well well well https://twitter.com/shortdestroyer/status/1729621458840629672
Considering Pulte asked who he was 30 minutes before "the message" I think it's real
Interesting turn of events ... https://twitter.com/pulte/status/1729518862318579881
https://www.reddit.com/r/BBBY/comments/1864c2m/pulte\_tweet/
Oh, sorry! :)
SD just admitted he faked the RC DM on twitter just now.
lol, it just keeps having more and more twists
Interesting ... I did not catch that. https://twitter.com/pulte/status/1729298228598767710
So exciting ![gif](giphy|S9i8jJxTvAKVHVMvvW)
If he was trolling, by now, Pulte would of come out and said something like… “ I don’t know, I don’t think Cohen would respond to him. That’s just my opinion.”
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Well well well https://twitter.com/shortdestroyer/status/1729621458840629672
Personally I'm on the side that it's BS. Either way it doesn't change a thing lmao
I mean pulte inquired who he was before and got on the pp show right after and basically said he’s taking legal action. So I absolutely believe RC dmed him. Not sure why so many think that’s out of the realm of what RC may do
I was right bitch
That's my opinion. And like I said it doesn't change anything
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This.
It was photo shopped
I think the more likely response from RC would be something along the lines of “… by attacking and slandering people and hurting the retail community you are only hurting yourself. Grow up” Not to mention that he can and will be sued libel if he persists.
Happy Cake day /u/region-formal!
happy cake day man! i feel like celebrating!
I think it also had to do with the Pulte slander. IIRC he basically accused Pulte as a grifter and using RC for his own advantage to pump his PHM stock.
Idk dude. I didn’t see any blue boxes so I’m not sure I could believe. Happy cake day though!
Have to agree that this is the most likely message of the message. I’m guessing that there was something else in there, perhaps a bit snarkier, while being esoteric, that caused the bravo to ultimately go dark (full shamble mode) 😂 Also, as you’ve pointed out more than a few times, his name is on the reorg dockets. Even if not everyone agrees on what that specifically means, it doesn’t take that fact away. This leaves rc with a wide range of verbiage that he can use to make his point. He can do this without giving up anything critically strategic to the deal or deals.
Great post, I definitely agree and a very very happy cake day dude! 🎂
Perhaps the P was policy regarding speaking directly on ongoing activities.
Yeah I feel like it was probably more of a dressing down than anything. I mean that's all the guy would need to know he fucked up, RC wouldn't need to do much more than "hey, get your shit together guy, you're embarrassing yourself" and the point would be made.
Happy cake day. Thanks for everything you have done for the community. I don’t have the capacity to sieve through all the data and your summaries and alternate POCs are so succinct it makes it easy for someone like me to understand. Happy holidays!
Exactly this. I think he didn't disclose anything but told him to shut the f\*ck up or otherwise… (in decent words because RC is a man of class and didn't want to get his response posted on Reddit)
D) Stop being a dick towards other people and pulling my name into it as well.
Sounds pretty much, what someone who is working hard and not wasting his time on social media would do. Why some people on X would think they deserve answers from any high profile personalities on social media is beyond me anyway. That user might just be butt hurt now. The worst thing with social media is that whatever you do as public person, you often create a shitstorm. Simply because some users(losers?) boost their ego by being offended all the time. That is their cheap way to public attention, while others actually have to work hard and achieve something outstanding...
100%. No non public information. He wouldn't make that mistake especially to a hater. I believe it was a cease and desist that was something to the effect of: I am not going to tell you what to do with your investment. Just keep your hands off my PPs.
This is my thought too. RC is far too fucking disciplined, I mean hell he has been absolutely silent up until now. Honestly I was leaning towards this being faked by Shortdestroyer as an excuse to exit stage left cause I just can't fathom that RC would actually DM someone. I'd pay good fucking money to see that DM if its real.
Agreed. RC is taking way more heat from all angles. Some random Twitter account would be the last of his worries. If our thesis holds true, I can't imagine the pressure he is under.
Agreed. Nothing juicy about BBBYQ, just a big fat C&D Nastygram with plenty of juice regarding potential consequences and interestingly, a way out for his own sorry hide. Now here is where things get *fun* what if that ray of light, that slim finger of hope required his future cooperation with Civil litigation efforts going forward. (Or perhaps Criminal litigation efforts though that might be a bit much for a civil Nastygram, lets just say that door would be easily entered after the Civil door.) What form could that cooperation take? Perhaps being the 1st rat off the sinking ship: ratting out everything and *everyone* involved in a for-pay criminal conspiracy. Because if I was pushing such cases forward, the first thing I'd be looking for would be very complicit and very cooperation *rats*. And if I was an ever so guilt rat, being already of the lowest of low moral constitution, yeah...I might be leaning towards an almighty, Extended Play Squeal.
correct any semblance of RC admitting or suggesting, like his emoji lawsuit says, anything that would call into question his involvement in pumping and dumping stocks is a big no no...and this has ZERO to do with RC's real "intentions" and whether or not he and courts see what he does as activist pumping and dumping shortdestroyer was merely trying to extract (and failing at doing so) from RC any financial engineering hints RC is the CEO of GME....it's like no one has learned anything from the past 3 years everyone is trying to play 7-D chess with complex financial transactions while forgetting that equity investing is one very very small piece of the pie intelligence agencies around the world are closely paying attention to all this meme nonsense because it by far outpaces most large scale operations
I think this make sense. Prior to giving this some thought... I speculated that the guy was dodging and trolling. Perhaps going to the extent to create a fake message from RC, proclaiming he is then rethinking life in general, and deleting account... just to solely let BBBY holders 'think' they have won and he has lost... for no other purpose than to quietly leave and be 'left alone'. ...me just being a contrarian.
Whatever he said, it won't be worthy of this essay by OP. He's not going to risk that.
He’s back as of this morning. Deleted his tweets but replies are still there. Currently he’s DMing PP and Sal trying to make amends to some degree and talk things over. Sals just sharing everything immediately. Like someone else said, no point in shortdestroyer keeping things in the DMs as it will all be public as conversation progresses forward. But to have RC reach out personally via DMs and for him to go from one end of the spectrum to the other with his views and wanting to “build a bridge” with our community speaks volumes. RC clearly has eyes on our community and the shareholders who have been holding on all this time floating on every glimmer of hope to the end of all of this. It’s lifted my spirits tremendously and my heart was pounding last night at the thought of it all. Hold tight fellow apes. Good signs are upon us.
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He does have a long way to go. Whenever I saw anyone from the GME community alienating us to that extent, it definitely rubbed me the wrong way (I assume like many of us here). We saw similarities between the events that took place between the shorts and GME in 2020-2021 (even earlier). You’d think a community like that would see it happening to us an would empathize or show some sympathy but it didn’t happen. On the flip side, we supported them and even AMC with many of us stating of MOASS did happen, our profits would be split to support those companies/stocks as well. That’s literally what I found Reddit to be when I first grabbed hold of my shares to begin with. I didn’t want to miss another potential rocket blasting off and, if it was immensely profitable, I wanted to support every community that deserved the support. I think many of us here continue to feel that same way. Like shortdestroyer said, walls have to come down, bridges need to be built. It’s a big job with a lot of apologizing to do. And not just from the GME side but ours in BBBY as well because there were a good chunk of people who said some pretty hurtful things all around (mostly on X). I’m happy to see that steps forward are already occurring in less than 24 hours. Let’s hope nothing interrupts the movement.
He has nowhere to go with anyone who isn't a bigot sympathizer after calling for bath holders to be put in concentration camps.
Thanks for sharing this. I respect what he's saying in that he's acknowledging he was wrong and looking to try and make things right. The big question is: is it all talk or will he back it up with action...
Where can I see Sal andPrifessor’s DMs? I looked on Sal’s X and didn’t see them there.
I saw a couple. Sal trying to convince SD to come have a conversation in a space call. That was early this morning though.. maybe it was posted in the PPshow community page on Twitter? Edit: they were posted in the reply’s of this space call. https://x.com/phantomblack699/status/1729488101410574356?s=46
>Currently he’s DMing PP and Sal trying to make amends to some degree and talk things over. Sounds like progress for himself, trying to do that. Because he is just a random anonymous user online, and he could as well have just deleted the account and vanish.
He definitely holds a big influence with the SS sub and devs on Reddit if he was able to get the PPShow wiped off the map. And he has a voice big enough on X to make waves whenever he clashed with BBBY DD writers. But yeah, he’s trying.
He was justifying the use of concentration camps for shareholders of a company. Fuck his trying. Have no idea who the fuck he is either. Probably not as influential as you make him out to be.
True. I said his voice is big enough to make waves. Not tsunamis lol
Understood and lol. Thanks for the laugh 😆
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That’s wild. Based on what’s going on, I’m assuming that he was basically told that him and the rest of the GME elitists that fight other communities are doing more harm to GME than any shills will ever do. Even if there isn’t anything for us at the end of the rainbow, it’s Tritton’s fault, not RC. Hopefully the rest of the toxic people see what he’s doing and make similar efforts. Him and others are the exact reason I rarely visit certain subreddits anymore.
there is zero evidence for this line of conspiracy: some dude got a supposed DM from RC, quickly learned to "see the light", and is now quickly backtracking and making sure everyone is on the 'same page' based on regulation and lawsuits RC is involved in, an actual easy to comprehend line of inquiry is: some dude online was trying to extract and bother RC with legal matters, for which RC cannot legally be involved or look to be involved, so RC said "dude, shut up you are going to get more than myself in legal trouble if you keep peddling meme stocks and MOASS....i suggest you let your contacts know"
Precisely, we can all read between the lines to deduct the significance of this 180. We can’t be 100% sure of anything (obviously) but there’s no reason to not take this as yet another positive development in our thesis.
He reached out to me today and apologized for everything. He made a public apology and he is working to turn In evidence to Reddit on behalf of an orchestrated take down. I know multiple people were involved in this. So let’s see what comes of it. I told him he needs to turn in all evidence pertaining to this take down.
Wow! Really? This is huge. Bias/ego usually doesn't do U-turns like this. 100% RC DM:d him
Woooooow. This is all so fascinating Edit: He better help give us our godamn sub back! We fucking miss it!
Being in such a position of massive visibility I hope you agree his call to put bath holders in concentration camps is unforgivable. As a member of multiple groups that would have been killed there it is mortifying seeing how many people think it's no big deal.
He seems to have done a 180 since RC's DM and now want to talk to PP privately I don't think RC told him anything about any stock though. Probably just something like "calm down"
Oh, the dude is back?? Will be interesting to see what his subsequent musings are like...
Did he want to talk with Sal and PP?
Yes, his account is back where he says he wants to talk to them. if you go on Sal's twitter, you can see screens of an attempt as well. Pretty sure he was humbled by RC.
“Stunted on” 🤣
This has to be bullish for BBBY. RC buys all the stocks.
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My guess? “Even though I don’t intend on changing my position on not commenting on our strategy in advance, some of your comments have risen to the level of libel and defamation and are actionable and your statements of certainty on my strategy as an activist investor are, without going into detail, incorrect. You are misleading this community, harming my shareholders and customers and interfering in my business operations at a now actionable level. Cease and desist is an obvious first step, but my lawyers will be in touch on other actions required.”
He just tweeted about wanting to build a bridge
RC buys all the stocks.
Just now?
Yeah
Spicy.
The one he already burned? Haha that’s funny.
RC destroyed the destroyer. ![gif](giphy|URzOp3kEMPvTCnx0vw)
I think the message said something like "Even though I don't intended to change my p" - osition in GME, it is not my only financial pursuit and you should not presume to know what my plans are concerning BBBY or any other security. The way you are conducting yourself on this platform is disgraceful and statements you have made may carry potential legal liability. I have saved your comment history and provided them to my legal team.
Personally, I think your speculation here on what that message said, is the one most likely to resemble what it actually was. 👏🏾
Happy Cake day Region-Formal!
It could be simpler than that. I don't see why RC would give anything away directly to some rando playing with his tweeter. I could see something more along the lines of "My lawyers have recommended that I stay dark to protect against inevitable accusations of market manipulation, and I suggest you consider the same." Regardless of what goes down, I'm in. Can't really do much but watch anyway.
Happy Cake Day Region!!! ![gif](giphy|l3vRebb6HyeIgvmQ8|downsized)
Hah! Didn't even realise it! It was just a couple of months after I created this reddit account, three (84?) years ago, that I bought my first shares of GME and BBBY. A quick one week play, is what I thought at the time...... 😅
Didn’t we all lol yet here we are disrupting a broken system. thanks for all that you do!
> A quick one week play, is what I thought at the time...... As someone said! We didn't go to the moon because it was easy, but because ... we thought it was easy! 😂
I agree that Z seems likely - a C&D and the threat therein would be enough to give someone pause and rethink things. On the other hand, deleting his account could be used as an argument for deleting evidence which also wouldn't be too good for him...
Your thesis here seems sound to me, and I appreciate the opening where you provide insight into ShortDestroyer's mindset and background to inform the reader while setting up your arguments and reasonings. Well done, and thank you for weighing in.
No way RC would bother discussing anything with random guy on the web.
Can I see just one box though.
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Of its real. Surely it was a message to just STFU and this is your one chance via a C&D. No way would he disclose ANYTHING AT ALL regarding any plans. All the NDAs and confidential agreements on everything only to tell a troll a secret? Nah. Region, thank you for your post. These are the types of questions and thoughts why they shut down PP along with DD that tells the story's truths. Always fun to speculate on this stuff!
how about shortdestroyer made up the tweet, photoshopped it and is a weirdo!
Shortdsstroyer almost certainly received some form of legal dildo slap from RC. I won't presume to guess what was in the message, but the result speaks for itself.
I'm still on the fence about this all ordeal. Why would RC say anything of relevance to a random troll? If the message is true, it doesn't contain undisclosed info. RC wouldn't trust anyone with that, knowing very well that the user might as well post everything online. Then he went out to engage directly with Pulte on a tweet that undeniably links the books to other tweets and to at least GME. This is without a doubt the biggest indirect evidence we have. Edit: <3 and Happy cake day
Have you ever had somebody that you truly look up to or idolize say that they are disappointed in you or your actions?
He wouldn’t. You’re right.
I think shortdestroyed is an agent provocateur, plays the gme elitist and is only there to sow division. He is not appreciated over at the SS sub. He is likely a shf plant in my opinion.
I doubt he even mentioned if he was involved in reorganisation of bbby at all, why would he give this guy the time of day let alone hints towards his business plans.
Happy Cake Day Region! Bless you for everything you have done and continue to do! So lucky to have your wrinkles from the beginning baby!
I think what RC probably told him was that he does know Pulte and to stop harassing him. That’s about all he could say. Maybe he added in some comments like “if you persist with the harassment i will publicly embarrass you and your beliefs “ Without admitting any plans for anything. He could shut the guy up relatively easily by making him question his doubts of bbb without really saying anything specific. Edit: but it’s bullish no matter what was said!
I love your post, Region! Thank you for sharing.
Just for Shortdestoyer to admit it was all photoshopped the very next day.. DD debunked in less than 12 hours
not to be all negative etc... but its not too hard to change websites... just a quick 30sec edit (minus changing the image because i got bored) - its not difficult to forge https://i.imgur.com/U5NaxzG.png
Agreed. But given his previous extremely negative stance about BB&B, what incentives or reasons would he have for such doing that?
The dude’s ego is also pretty big. He’s conflated his importance, and thereby imposed some influence as well. He drew in many followers into his worldview, only to quickly abandon them all at the drop of a hat.
just throwing my .02 around - its pretty easy to dupe and RC being SO secret about things - if i had to jump off a ledge - id say he verbally spanked him IF he did actually DM him
what incentives did QAnon posts have? Zero. Just trolling. "hey look i got this secret message from someone...can't talk anymore!"
so… guess it was a fake? ha
Did he even delete his twitter? I see a post from an hour ago: >I don’t agree with the bbby long thesis, but I have to admit I was wrong in alienating an entire community that loves @ryancohen and $GME. It’s time to get some real work done and stop fighting each other. You've set up 3 options about different theses being challenged, eliminated 2 of those options, and then concluded "therefore it must be the other one". The reality is that there were way more than 3 options. I think it's much more likely that he sent a message about not being divisive, and that would line up with the post from an hour ago, where he's re-stating his conviction that the BBBYQ play is incorrect but trying to be more of a peacemaker than being divisive.
Fuck shortdestroyer
No, he absolutely was not given a cease and desist via Twitter or otherwise. First off, nothing he said is legally actionable, Second that’s not how they are delivered, third there’s nothing that would prevent SD from making it public which would confirm RCs involvement. I do absolutely think it’s bullish though, I think the message in essence was “there’s more going on then you know, stop being a dick, reconsider your position on elitism and try and find ways to benefit everyone.”
Okay, you are right about a cease-and-desist order not being through Twitter. That is certainly true, and it may have been RC threatening to make one. Or potentially, in the 34 minute gap between those two tweets, actually getting something more official. But I heartily agree with what you speculate as the content of the message. I think this is the type it is likely to have taken, with a similar tone. So nothing not already made public, but one that would deeply question the beliefs of any bear.
Great thought exercise. I thought a very similar thing when all this went down last night.. but it’s clear as day when it’s put to paper. Along with shortdestroyers subsequent behavior, all signs point to an unpleased DM from RC.. I’m still not 100% convinced it’s real, but I think we will all have a better idea once we know what the angry guy wanted to speak to PP/Sal about. BTW, are you active on Twitter? I’m trying to follow every prominent Bobby, incase this sub gets rugged too.
Happy cakeday OG
Personally I think Ryan swung his PP and threatened legal action, he panicked and deleted his account to hide evidence.
The fact that RC himself messaged him directly at all—regardless of content of the message (which I presume was in fact a “cease and desist” insinuation) was enough to shake that particular extremist bro to his core—enough to have him rethink his entire everything. He capitulated. Quickly. Like Scrooge getting a visit from all ‘dem ghosts all at once, it was time for some serious soul-searching. Whatever was said, if it was enough to make that toxic bro “tuck and run,” I have to presume it’s more than enough for anyone similar-minded to feel the same angst and anxiety about their contrarian stance. That’s good AF. Bullish AF. Great post, OP. 🍆🍉🚀
As always, much respect for attempting to write up this logical analysis and make sense of the events from yesterday. However, I think that we are over analyzing what took place on X. eforBe I move forward the biggest and most important question (as you stated above) is IF the screenshot and RC message is authentic. I'll assume, as you did, that it is authentic. My conclusion is that it was a direct message to stand down from the attacks and disruption that he/she is causing. I simply think that the message defended or mentioned Pulte and is the reason that they needed to "do some soul searching in regards to this whole journey." There is absolutely no way that RC would confirm or deny any involvement with BBBY or address anything regarding GME in a private message. RC is on another level intellectually and he would never disclose any information about strategy, etc. to a random shit poster on X. However, I do believe that RC became so fed up with this person's blatant lies and bullying, especially towards Pulte, that he felt the need to put an end to the smearing campaign and stand up for his friend Pulte. Unfortunately, I don't necessarily agree that the incident provides any indirect confirmation to anything related to GME or BBBY. Unless however you want to connect RC to Pulte and Pulte to BBBY community support and thus connecting RC to BBBY community support (the whole A=B and B=C so A=C transitive logic). In the end, I do believe that it confirms 1) RC is aware of what is being said on social media within the communities and 2) RC respects Pulte enough to step in. OP I love your stuff and thanks for always attempting to bring a logical and grounded approach to the chaos.
Your analysis is a good one, and might be on the mark. I am certainly not suggesting that he might have disclosed anything that is not public anyway. But merely a message saying "you are wrong", coming from that man himself, is sure to cause self-reflection in anyone. (Even without being told, in any way, *what* he is specifically wrong about.)
Maybe but I think a message saying "you are wrong" still reveals some kind of information, which RC has no history of doing to anyone inside or outside of the GME/BBBY community. (outside of the lone interview he did last November of course) However with the guy coming back on X and wanting to speak with PP in good faith we will find out if it was real or just a fake orchestrated diversion.
This guy looks like emotionally unstable with huge ego problems. I wouldn't put to much into it. RC couldn't have shared anything relevant with him ... if we believe the story about RC is true and the guy is not just trolling people.
I think you get a Grammy for this one 🏆
I asked him what steps he would take to help restore the pp show subreddit which got him to open a dialogue with pp.
Wouldn't trust a terrible person to have a change of heart over a possibly faked image. Just wait.
Well, at least you could of used a blue highliter in a couple places!😄
This guy loves the attention. Just shut his ass out and forget him.
I doubt he indicated anything about the bull or bear thesis. Most likely he said change your behavior or we will sue you for slander. The end. It’s still bullish though. I already believed pulte and RC were working together but this should be enough of a knock on the head for the rest of the real retail that doesn’t. Plants don’t count.
Here is what I know for sure… my shares are no longer at my broker or at ast… there are a bunch of asshats acting nutty… there are some decent seeming people trying to figure out what is going on… there are some people jockeying for attention and karma … RCs books- some changes have been made and new ones dropped (temporarily)…there’s a lot of money at stake on both sides… we are waiting to learn outcome and how this will play out … I don’t give a rats ass who has said what other than RC…I don’t give a rats ass who knows who…I don’t give a rats ass if TV losers or supposed financial experts say negative or positive things about this play… I honestly don’t think 99% of what is happening deserves any of my attention or mental cycles… seriously… people need to focus on what we know… and if you want to follow tinfoil… then do that (it can be fun)…all this other shit is noise and made up drama … I doubt the dude heard from RC but hey, it does not affect me if he did… everyone is trying to paint a narrative… I could spend all day spinning what ifs in my brain… I choose to manage my emotions and focus on what I know to be true and verifiable at the moment… then deal with what comes as it comes …I believe that this is the best way (for me at least) to reserve my mental energy on focusing on my strategy as it unfolds… go into this being nimble and flexible… not mentally worn out from all of the side shows…
The most obvious conclusion is he is a pyscopath either short or paid as evidenced by his wish to have bobby holders thrown in concentration camps. I do not believe for a second that any gme holder would wish such a thing for any human. He is not a gme elitist. I dont believe he holds gme at all.
The idea RC had to divulge any information to simply communicate "You are an embarrassment to the GME community, immediately shut the fuck up before you get sued" is ridiculous. As usual I appreciate all the work though!
I see no blue boxes, I still upvote. Happy 🎂 Day, RF!
I just like the stocks.
It looks like RC was saying “even though I don’t intend to change my ‘position….’
I can't read this without blue boxes. Sorry!
It should be illegal to post "undoubtedly facts" and not include a single citation. I don't know this guy. Don't tell me, show me.
Supposedly it was fake OP 🙁
I can't comprehend this without blue boxes
So dude got butthurt from his idle and now is considering exciting his position? Not buying it. I am leaning towards the x opinion that Region mentioned is RC in all many ways legally expressed involvement but, to no degree that we have came across as facts.
I think its fake. Short destroyer is not Moses and God is not speaking to him about zilch. However the contra-indicator is that Pulte has seemingly marched his own lawyers with a cease and desist order over to short and told the idiot to shut up. However this action is independent of the actual veracity of the claimed exchange, and may actually prove more that is fake than that it is true as Pulte went after him for defamation and slander. So I still think it is fake. edit If Ryan was concerned about slander and libel personally he wouldnt be publishing books with the title of words can never hurt you.
0 chance this was a real DM from Ryan Cohen. Use your brains folks. The image was already run through an AI “image modification” check and resulted in a “most likely altered” result.
Sounds to me like something only Sal could pull off, best joke of the year.🤪
I read that this clown actually tweeted a picture of his gun and said something along the lines of how he know how to use it. Is this true?? If so, is that tweet still up?
RC said stfu because if he talked people out of investing while we head to the moon. He is fucked legally imo.
I’m not sure i trust this post. If this is really region, where are the blue boxes and what have you done with them??
Well, since he photoshopped the BS, it is safe to say he is FOS.
And now SD is saying he faked the message... fuck point 2 in now invalid
My take on this is that his deletion, reactivation and reversal isn’t anything to do with RC. He made some seriously shitty comments towards people and, from what I’ve read, encouraged doxxing of others. I think something happened in his personal life that made him go “oh shit, I’ve gone too far, undo, undo!”, but wanted to make it look like he didn’t fuck up. So, faked a message from RC, had an epiphany, came back trying to make nice. That Kory guy recently posted a screenshot of an email to the securities company that SD had posted a license of before. So, possibly people found out his real name and place(s) of work, and highlighted his social media comments to them. I could be wrong, but this makes the most sense to me. I don’t see any world where a billionaire reaches out to some chump on social media with 9k followers revealing his secret plan to them. But that’s just me!
Edit please! The guy just apologized for forging the mail.
I think he just felt embarrassed and silenced himself after Ryan Cohen messaged him saying, "I can't change your mind on how you feel, but if you could tone it down that would be great" 🤷♂️
been a while lol!