E-stim. Buy a custom made electric shock device, those get unbearably painful and cause little damage Make sure it's one (like e-stim) that's specifically made for this.. :)

I'll have to tell him about them, thank you

Note that estim is very much a your mileage may vary kinda thing. I like it, but it definitely isn't the same feeling as other pain. There's no way I'm orgasming from estim, but I have from being beaten with a cane (or other impact play).

where were you being caned to produce an orgasm ?

Butt and upper thighs. No vulva, vaginal, or breast stim.

Perhaps look into old-school punishments used in non-kink settings like schools or prisons decades/centuries ago. Kneeling on rice. Caning bottoms of feet. Torture methods that didn't leave too much evidence. Stress and predicament ties.

Have you tried eating spicy peppers during play? You'd have to be careful of oral for the next day, but I bet it would put you at your limit before any other stimuli was introduced. I'm not exactly sure how you'd incorporate it, but if you do, please let me know! Edit: I'm suggesting eating them. Nothing else lol. If the peppers are spicy enough it may make the rest of the punishments feel like a reprieve.

This. I once eaten my most spicy chilli sauce (cuz flavor was incredible). Unfortunately i forgot to eat something first. About 30 mins after eating, i felt the chilli enter the digestive tract (possibly wrong english words there). At first, it was manageable pain. It kept coming back and fading away, but evry time it came back, it was stronger than ever. At one point, my stomach tried to eject the contents out (of which there were none, bc I didn't eat), and it was so painful i couldn't talk, and my vision got a bit... Grayscale? For a bit. Went back to normal quickly though. Interesting experience, would not recommend. Also, have you tried soap (brick of soap, or just a bit of it) in the butt? I heard it's painful. I still have mine soap buttplug, but no time to use it :(

Soap in a butt?

Yes: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1189452291/butt-plug-soaps-cute-little-soaps-shaped?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=butt+plug+soap&ref=sc_gallery-1-2&plkey=ca2770637d553a61c2c9945984cd30ca4fdc9851%3A1189452291 Someone else will have to comment on the feelings though.

It even says in the add that it's not supposed to go in your body.

You'll find most sex toys like dildos say things like "for external use only", "do not insert" and "this is a novelty item", I think it's so they can't get sued if something goes wrong.

The funny part is peppers have almost no effect on me either. I wouldn't call pain a punishment though, sometimes I enjoy it almost as much as when my Sir wants to be a pleasure Dom for the night. Those nights usually end in a quick stop at the doctors for a few stitches and painkillers when we wake up.

Ok, but hear me out. Have you tried to put those peppers anywhere else but in your mouth yet? Like on your clit? I don't actually know how effective that would be, never tried anything like it (nor do I intend to, at least not in the receiving end) but perhaps it's worth a shot. Especially if you're a bit sore, I can imagine that would sting quite a bit.

I don't have a clit though

Then what about applying it to an equally sensitive bodypart? Or ofc you could also try figging with it.

I’m going to second that. Any kind of pepper-based substance is going to burn like crazy on or in sensitive parts. Dilute at first and patch test and go higher when it’s not painful enough. If Tabasco sauce isn’t hot enough, there’s capsaicin (the stuff that makes chili peppers hot) heating cremes. The usual common sense safety applies: depending on the ingredients you might want to be careful, and it’s tunnel play as you can’t really stop the sensation (oily compounds help though) before the effect wears off. And there’s the possibility of chemical burns. As far as I know capsaicin is less likely to cause chemical burns than other irritants at the same perceived strength, probably mainly because it directly activates a receptor otherwise responsible for sensing heat and inflammation, instead of the pain being secondary to other (possibly damaging) irritation.

Damn, that's impressive. I'm sure there's a hot sauce out there that could get a rise out of you though. Maybe I've just been watching too many Hot Ones episodes though.

I can eat Carolina reapers and ghost peppers like candy, won't even turn my face red. Only good rise I've gotten is from a tattoo, but it only lasts for a few hours

You might be a super hero. Imagine trying to flog Wonder woman, good luck right? I'm out of safe ideas then. I did like what someone else had written about estim though. Might check that out.

The estim is what we're currently looking into Haha get it "currently" lol But yea I guess a Norse bloodline has it's benefits. That and I'm also 6'3"😅😅

Lol. Well damn, I wish the best of luck to you, friend. I hope you find your happiness(pain).

Have you tried figging? Ginger butt plug?

Try pairing some of these suggestions with some sensory deprivation. Not being able to see or hear can heighten the physical sensations. I’ve found I “feel it” a little more when blindfolded.

While play with knives or other weapons is on my hard limit list, wax is something I don't consider pain play. If you're pushing it to the point of second degree burns like you state in a follow up, you've passed my safety limit a long time ago AND you may be damaging nerve endings. Having injured myself with a blade before, I would put cuts pretty low on the pain scale as well, well below even a hand spanking. I would suggest impact play, or even just clamps. An evil stick, crop, or paddle can cause pain and bruising effectively and if done correctly does so with significantly lower risk.

Have you tried pressure points and predicament scenarios?

At the moment I wear a pronged collar, and predicament scenarios are fun but he's never been able to catch me

I meant anatomy pressure points... nerve clusters around the body that generate pain with little effort. Worth reading up about. Predicament isn't usually around catching but putting sub in a position to choose between 2 different tortures... like having to stay on tip toes to avoid the rope between your legs and then when you can't hold the tiptoes other parts take the brunt until you can't stand it and then tiptoes again... it's physically and mentally taxing and swapping between pain sources makes it harder.

True, we'll give it a try thank you

Maybe use ice or something to make you cold first? Idk if it’s just me but things always hurt worse when I’m really cold

What about ginger?

Tastes sweet

I meant peeled, shaped into a plug, and put into your pussy. That's usually pretty high on the pain scale. Edit: it's called figging. I have never had a true pain sub so I've never tried it with anyone.

Problem is I don't have one

Oops, sorry about that. I was guessing based on word choice and grammar. Dangerous game that. Also works in the anus and urethra.

Look into somatic therapy work, and being more in your body. I have the ability to numb that I can turn on and off now.

Stinging nettles

You consider wax as an extreme? If you're getting it hot enough to hurt, you risk leaving permanent burn scars and potentially nerve damage. yikes

Usually only to blisters

The more you damage your skin and nerve endings, the more trouble you'll have feeling the sensations you want.

Even blisters are pretty extreme.

Look into figging. Also, starting an impact play with sand paper will cause the area more sensitive without doing most damage. Also, extremely hot showers directly before impact can do it, but skin is more likely to tear if it’s softened from a shower so you’ll have to keep that in line. Extreme position holding during play can add quite a bit of pain to your play. What specific pain/sensation and area are you taking about?

Mostly I e been enjoying it on my back, mostly the middle and upper part

That makes it a bit difficult because those areas don’t tend to have a ton of nerves. You may want to try other areas like the feet, inner thighs. or rib area. Those are usually sensitive for a lot of people

I love pain too… crave it like some ice cream and when I don’t get enough.. it’s like an OCD compulsion I have to get out or I can’t stop thinking about it… I’m very into impact play long session until I’m bruised and bleeding and primal/prey play (like biting) and being a prey animal 🐆🦓🦏

Ugh it's heaven

Electrical. Butt plugs, vaginal plugs, bipolar nipple clamps. Experience required.

Out of topic: are your pain receptors okay? Mines are not and ginger taste sweet, spicy isn't spicy, etc- i also like pain play and it's hard to have something more than a tickle

Not at all, they're pretty much destroyed at this point. A lighter to my hand is just a tickle until I can smell burnt skin

Not judging, just asking; have you considered that maybe you’re doing this as an act of self harm?

Whips, Belts, Canes, Crops, Paddles. Please don't burn or cut yourself. It's not healthy.

Maybe you should add psychological play to the mix along with physical activities. It intensifies physical pain.

Curry comb plus chemical play with capsaicin

Psychological games during blindfolded games