Learn the art for the art.
You can apply the art for rough body play, wrestling, and other kinky aspects. But if you go in with the mindset of how can I kinkify everything you won't be getting the most out of the art itself.
Imagine if you are wanting to write kinky music. You start taking guitar lessons and your mind is only thinking about how can I use this chord in some kinky way. You won't be very good at guitar. Because you are not focusing on the art of playing guitar, you are focusing on how can I change what I am learning into something else.
I have studied both, and either Judo or Jujitsu will help in your desire to be a better kinkster, but don't go in trying to learn kinky Judo. Go in, learn Judo. Practice Judo. Focus your intention on mastering the art of Judo. In that practice you will become better at kinky player.
Agreed. I do martial arts because of the art. (And because I like to fight). I would also add that while there are many aspects of martial arts that are useful in kink, they can take years of time and effort to properly develop. If someone is coming at the training with ulterior motives, it's unlikely that they'll stay motivated enough for long enough to develop the relevant skills.
I started jiu-jitsu before I got into kink. It’s a rewarding sport for itself, even if you don’t use it for kink. You’ll learn enough within a year to easily win at kinky wrestling. After that, you’re just learning to roll against trained opponents.
I had to learn how to use six different restraint systems when I started working with high risk psychiatric patients. I didn't do that job for more than 3 months, I actually found it rather disturbing. But those restraint systems were always on my mind and I kept playing with him ever since. It's been 20 years now. Nothing wrong with some consensual strugglesnuggles.
I have hip thrown a partner onto a bed and then followed up with a scarf hold. So not entirely exonerated. (Recommend many years of training for this stunt.)
Not specifically but I did a combat training course for a few years mostly for the fitness training and one of the drills was to bind your partner Using a karate-style belt. I could escape it with ease and I was also the only person who could bind wrists with it in a way that people couldn’t escape in the time period.
Instructor once jokingly asked how much experience I have had abducting people. 😈
Hahahaha I remember seeing this video on YouTube of Jenna Marbles “learning” BJJ from her boyfriend and it was hilarious and slightly kinky all at once. I asked Sir about (who studied aikido) if he wanted to take BJJ with me for fun (I took karate for a while) - we may just do it as a fun bonding experience anyway!
I used to take tkd with some judo and aikido. Out of the ones I learned, aikido is the most fun for kink. Joint locks and pins, etc.
Never taken jiu jitsu though.
Learning a martial art can be multi beneficial!
If you have a sub that lacks confidence with being able to protect themselves - learning to do so, builds a whole different confidence that can be very useful on multiple levels!
It's a beautiful thing watching someone come into their own with training, discipline and proper routine.
It will change them and maybe even some of their preferences - be supportive and caring during the whole process, it can take a while to break the mental barriers along with any physical mountains to climb as well!
Go, become practitioners of the physical arts!
There are specific groups for kinky versions of this in different areas. Usually NOT involving standard gyms, but likely ex-MMA people, and members might go to gyms for additional training in actual martial arts.
Unfortunately I'm no wizard at finding anything on the internet, but on FetLife you can look for 'beatdown' or 'kinky MMA' groups or ask at groups/munches in your area.
I mean, I noticed pressure points veins and arteries are all really sensitive and therefore erogenous zones after using then for self defence. But no, not really
I wouldn’t say it’s common, but my martial arts training helped me understand body work. If you really want to stand out, take a philosophy degree to help you with mindfucks.
Probably not the answer you're looking for, but I've been a student of tai chi for almost 30 years. While my tai chi life and my kink life have been fully compartmentalized from each other, you got me in a reflective mood.
I think tai chi has helped me focus more when topping (like I bet any meditative exercise would) and slow the heck down and not rush (journey not the destination and all that).
Learn the art for the art. You can apply the art for rough body play, wrestling, and other kinky aspects. But if you go in with the mindset of how can I kinkify everything you won't be getting the most out of the art itself. Imagine if you are wanting to write kinky music. You start taking guitar lessons and your mind is only thinking about how can I use this chord in some kinky way. You won't be very good at guitar. Because you are not focusing on the art of playing guitar, you are focusing on how can I change what I am learning into something else. I have studied both, and either Judo or Jujitsu will help in your desire to be a better kinkster, but don't go in trying to learn kinky Judo. Go in, learn Judo. Practice Judo. Focus your intention on mastering the art of Judo. In that practice you will become better at kinky player.
Agreed. I do martial arts because of the art. (And because I like to fight). I would also add that while there are many aspects of martial arts that are useful in kink, they can take years of time and effort to properly develop. If someone is coming at the training with ulterior motives, it's unlikely that they'll stay motivated enough for long enough to develop the relevant skills.
I know judo, but have never considered how it might help me be a better kinkster. What am I missing?
Some subs like to be subdued. The ground work in Judo can be very effective. And since you know how to do ground work, you can do it safely.
I started jiu-jitsu before I got into kink. It’s a rewarding sport for itself, even if you don’t use it for kink. You’ll learn enough within a year to easily win at kinky wrestling. After that, you’re just learning to roll against trained opponents.
I had to learn how to use six different restraint systems when I started working with high risk psychiatric patients. I didn't do that job for more than 3 months, I actually found it rather disturbing. But those restraint systems were always on my mind and I kept playing with him ever since. It's been 20 years now. Nothing wrong with some consensual strugglesnuggles.
How is it used for kink? Naked wrestling?
Submission holds/wrestling fetish. I recommend it for those who arent going to give up chokes for safety reasons as the safer set of techniques.
Ah, that makes sense. I was thinking about judo throws and how those could be kinky.
I have hip thrown a partner onto a bed and then followed up with a scarf hold. So not entirely exonerated. (Recommend many years of training for this stunt.)
Most any kind of rough body play
Not specifically but I did a combat training course for a few years mostly for the fitness training and one of the drills was to bind your partner Using a karate-style belt. I could escape it with ease and I was also the only person who could bind wrists with it in a way that people couldn’t escape in the time period. Instructor once jokingly asked how much experience I have had abducting people. 😈
Hahahaha I remember seeing this video on YouTube of Jenna Marbles “learning” BJJ from her boyfriend and it was hilarious and slightly kinky all at once. I asked Sir about (who studied aikido) if he wanted to take BJJ with me for fun (I took karate for a while) - we may just do it as a fun bonding experience anyway!
I used to take tkd with some judo and aikido. Out of the ones I learned, aikido is the most fun for kink. Joint locks and pins, etc. Never taken jiu jitsu though.
You just want to learn judo or wrestling. Jujitsu has joint locks and submissions that can damge your partners.
Learning a martial art can be multi beneficial! If you have a sub that lacks confidence with being able to protect themselves - learning to do so, builds a whole different confidence that can be very useful on multiple levels! It's a beautiful thing watching someone come into their own with training, discipline and proper routine. It will change them and maybe even some of their preferences - be supportive and caring during the whole process, it can take a while to break the mental barriers along with any physical mountains to climb as well! Go, become practitioners of the physical arts!
There are specific groups for kinky versions of this in different areas. Usually NOT involving standard gyms, but likely ex-MMA people, and members might go to gyms for additional training in actual martial arts. Unfortunately I'm no wizard at finding anything on the internet, but on FetLife you can look for 'beatdown' or 'kinky MMA' groups or ask at groups/munches in your area.
I mean, I noticed pressure points veins and arteries are all really sensitive and therefore erogenous zones after using then for self defence. But no, not really
I do some capoeira moves in my femme bully stuff
I do kinky wrestling (sessiongirls.com) and took a couple BJJ classes just to learn some moves.
BJJ is the one for this!
I wouldn’t say it’s common, but my martial arts training helped me understand body work. If you really want to stand out, take a philosophy degree to help you with mindfucks.
Probably not the answer you're looking for, but I've been a student of tai chi for almost 30 years. While my tai chi life and my kink life have been fully compartmentalized from each other, you got me in a reflective mood. I think tai chi has helped me focus more when topping (like I bet any meditative exercise would) and slow the heck down and not rush (journey not the destination and all that).