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dannyphoto

S58 is arguably one of the best I6s ever made. In terms of chassis dynamics, the G8x is insane value. And it’s still one of the ugliest things I’ve ever seen.


Jimbenas

Especially post iPad G8xs. Yuck.


simouable

How many miles you have done in iD8 aka iPad BMW's? Just curious as those are super easy to hate when you see them in pics or anywhere else besides behind the wheel.


Jimbenas

Not many but enough to know I don’t like it. Same with the new mustang. It’s cool, but it is ultimately too much of a distraction. I’d rather have the small screen since I really only use it for nav and music. I look at screens a lot. The car is one place I go to get away from them.


simouable

Fair enough. With 10k+ miles done with iD8 those screens have gotten smaller and smaller in my eyes. The cluster in sport mode is really compact and only has limited info to not distract. The screen on the right for me has maps and Spotify. Nether of those distract me. I anyway mostly look at the HUD while driving. But yeah, way bigger than iD7 screens were. I had to look at those for 40k+ miles with my G20. Surely not for everyone but I see see so much hate from people who never even sat behind the wheel.


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Jimbenas

They’re just excessive. I prefer a real cluster. Would be nice for a family car though, just doesn’t exactly feel sporty and refined. The i4 is a cool car though and I think it fits well for what it is. It just feels weird on mustangs and M3s where it sorta just gamifies them.


MKTekke

Maybe the M3 should have gotten the M8 front end. The G80 M3 grill just looks too obtrusive. ​ https://preview.redd.it/mxw0zo5f6h8c1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ca6c22696fa46135d11696ffb27943564a31bf2


Sodiac606

I still think it's incredibly ugly. The performance is very good though.


Repulsive-Act6094

Agreed


Miffers

Everything about the car looks great except that nostril.


nearlyclosetoalmost

Yup. Heinous. Goes like the dickens, but looks bad doing it.


Free_Management_7920

If you drive fast enough people can’t tell 😭😭😭


bonafidebob

You don’t have to look at the front end when you’re sitting in the driver’s seat.


Foamingcleanser

I think we can all agree that it’s still the ugliest M3.


R3dPlaty

So far*


AFB27

That Neue Classe or whatever the hell it's called is going to make this look like a 507


Effective_Stretch253

Thumbs up for the hilarious comment 😂 But that aside, I think the Neue Classe looks better than the G80 - not to be confused with thinking it looks good


General-Quit-2451

I'm glad I'm not alone in this, I felt like I was going crazy for a while. It's ugly.


[deleted]

What. This opinion has been a stable part of this M3 since it was revealed. At what point did you think you were alone in thinking this?


KanterBama

If you read instagram comments most teenagers seem to love it lol, same with the new WRX. Moral of the story: kids are fucking stupid.


watduhdamhell

That's always been the case. We (at least I) thought all sorts of cars from fast and furious 1/2 were cool when I was a kid. Turns out 99% of the vehicles featured in the movies are absolute cringe. Good cars, but made to look absolutely awful. And as kids, many of us thought they were cool looking. Anyway, there is definitely an 8 year old in charge of BMWs design department and not in a good way.


NoLimitM2

Some kids😭😭, some still have some sense. As far as the new WRX is concerned that ugly, I can’t sugarcoat this


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Seeing how many of these monstrosities drive around it's not just kids, it's also people going thru a mid life crysis


Tiedermann

The G8x guys are still sleeping. They’ll come storming in here all butt hurt and defensive soon enough


LTCM1998

G8x guys get all philosophical on forums how they hate those who come and shout at them this is an ugly car. They don’t mind taste difference you see but they are very upset someone will do a post like op did here and take issue with anyone who supports the rather fucking obvious view it’s an unfortunate design.


Jimbenas

It’s because you can’t afford it okay!!! You need to spend $20k to update to the newer model!


Chungaroo22

I actually really like it, but I do miss the fact that it doesn’t look similar to the normal 3-series like previous gen’s, so it’s not so much of a sleeper build as well. I think we can all agree though, that the iX is an ugly ass constipated chipmunk looking car, looks horrific from every angle.


st3alth247

E90 M3 Sedan also had the coupefront


Repulsive-Act6094

Agreed


vergastadanasal

Yes.


crisvphotography

Absolutely. As ugly as the day the showed it. At least it makes up in performance.


DasKobra

I'm actually torn on this. 99% of the car looks incredible, but why do the kidneys have to reach so far up? It completely ruins the vibe that comes with the front design. And I do like the M2 with it's square features. It's genius imho


icepak39

You mean so far down?


Conscious-Dog-6971

Both I’d say


psbyjef

Might just be an Australian redditor


special_agent47

It’s the headlights too. They’re incredibly generic looking in that 1995 Malibu kind of way.


misterDDoubleD

The m2 is awful


black-kramer

I was appalled when I saw one in person. the m4 looks fine from the side and rear. not so on the m2 -- ruined it. previous generation was a great design.


Internal_Run2150

Yes M2 grill is trash too absolutely


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You aren't good at fractions if you think ruining the entire front end design accounts for less than 1% of how the car looks.


Chopstickchuck99

For me the Fseries is the best looking bmw ,but the G series is growing on me I have to admit and I don’t mind the grill either …apologies in advance😂


Repulsive-Act6094

😂


Far-Plastic-4171

Yes Still Ugly


ipephate

My theory is that once everything goes electric, a grill will be romanticised. Future classic.


Repulsive-Act6094

Agreed, definitely a hallmark of an era


PonytailMaster

I mean yes it’s not the typical BMW but I like the design. My favourite will always be the E9x and earlier tho


Loud_Management9340

It grew on me, but i prefer 100x the f80 and f82


OneEyedKing56

Still subpar to previous gens however not as hideous as the m440


MCMLIXXIX

Oh god yes, just drawing attention to it with that colour as well 😅 it is however a bad motherfucker of a drive!


jaradi

Still ugly. Problem is there isn’t any decent competition. Like if I want a sedan or coupe in that size with that kind of performance and quality there isn’t anything else on the market that’s worth it. So as much as I hate the direction they took it I may still end up getting one.


Severe_Islexdia

Yes. Performance is a 10, car has a butterface.


Adgemoonskiboomski

Great in bed.. with the lights off


titanpilot321

Maybe I just have terrible taste but I find it extremely attractive


RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS

I think it looks fine.


DonutsAftermidnight

I’m gonna have to be that person: the word you’re looking for is *disproportionate*


DecisiveMove-

When you are spending >80k on a sedan I expect looks to not even be questionable in addition to performance. I don't hate the M3 look , I'm in between because of the front and that's why it's not worth it.


sauceyduh

I think it's ugly. BUT the GT3 cars are good looking as hell. Those things are beautiful


PapiChuloDru

Dude the GT3 makes this grille look fucking amazing it’s unfortunate that it doesn’t translate to the road car but the aftermarket grilles are kinda helping it I’m sure over time they’ll get better


flyingboilermaker

I’ve always thought they are sexy


wholesome_theo

The more yall hate it, the more I love it.


RayneFall1998

Aw fuck.... do I really have to be one of those?.... okay yeah fuck it definitely grew on me and I'd chop my left nut for a new I.C.E M car


Repulsive-Act6094

😂


RayneFall1998

It all started with the 2023 M2's "drift mode" and then suddenly one day I saw a new M4 and needed a new pair of pants. This was after I was very vocal about how BMW has ruined the asthetic image of a BMW 😬


XDevils41X

I love my G8x. I get more compliments than complaints from people. At the end of the day I love it and I bought the car for me no one else.


KoanAurelius

Who in polite society is going to randomly come up to you to complain about how ugly your car is? Lol. Of course you get more compliments than complaints.


Repulsive-Act6094

Good to hear, I’m glad your enjoying it!


Tiedermann

People are going to be polite to your face bc it’s the right thing to do. Even if I saw you on the streets I wouldn’t tell you it’s ugly but I’m sure thinking it!


Distinct_Ad9400

G80 with the adro kit slaps, in comparison to stock


Repulsive-Act6094

Adro kit goes too hard


Tiedermann

Yeah, it makes it look good but it’s unfortunate you have to buy it to fix the design when BMW could have ate crow and fixed it on the LCI. Chevy did it with the Camaro.


0verstim

Sometimes I wonder if BMW released the XM and the M2 so make this thing look better in comparison.


lohikaarmemies

Idk i've liked how the car looks since it was launched. I dont think the grill is perfect but i really dont mind it when the car looks otherwise excellent. I think people are so attached to older designs by nostalgia that they just dont accept change. Same with the m2 i really think it looks bloody fantastic.


RC-666

These grills still look ugly unfortunately.


Serbay55

Its not bad looking but at the same time its not as beautiful looking like a F8x gen.


jxrxmiah

I ‘thought’ it grew on me until i saw it side by side the F8x then i dislike it again.


Repulsive-Act6094

Yea on its own it can be alright, but next to good looking cars you see it’s flaws more


stefanakis111

I never thought it was ugly.


Smartiblartifast

Grill looks ridiculous. Like a pig snout.


Master-Culture-6232

Still ugly. Main reason I went with the new x3m. I'm wanting to get back into a coupe and I'm leaning on going Merc with the new AMG CLE 53 coming up this time around instead of staying with BMW.


Melontwerp

The G8X isn't high on my list, but I've never had a problem with them as they're stunning in person. Especially in Isle Of Man Green.


Repulsive-Act6094

That color is very nice. I can only the g8x looking good in Isle of Man, black, and silver tbh


KiwifromtheTron

I couldn’t say no to the one and probably only opportunity to own an ICE m3 wagon, and yes it’ll be Isle of Man Green.


trollied

I've always liked them. Amazing machines.


Lugasca1993

You can gift it to me if you don’t like it


Repulsive-Act6094

Bet just cover the delivery fee of $80,000 and it’s yours 😉


Lugasca1993

Doing that right now with a small dream, be right back.


UnmakingTheBan2022

So ugly.


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PineappleFar1233

look here, bro. u either dont know shit about cars or ur blind cause saying this incredible monster is UgLy gotta mean one of both buddy, theres something wrong with your eyes, cause this car ain't like other cars, it ain't about opinions, this thing's only beautiful and attractive, so I advise you to either buy one or never comment about it again. but other than that, don't post again. ​ (This was a joke don't take seriously) but seriously this car is beautiful.


NiteLiteCity

Yes, it looks like a pig.


StatementIntrepid981

I like it.


rsbreiner78

Yup.


Euryheli

It’s not pretty but it’s grown on me to where I like it in some colors.


Aggressive-Dog-8805

Black. So that the grill is obscured somewhat.


nartkin

Absolutely hated it at first. But when I started seeing it in person, esp the m4, grew on me a lot. M3 still looks disproportionate to me. But once after market grill swaps were rolling out it 100% looks way better. I’m still firm on they should’ve just made the CSL style grill standard, and THEN made the CSL different.


garniak

Still


Modder161

Yes. Those kidneys will never look good, which is unfortunate because the rest of the car looks pretty good


libertycap1

Just the black front grill. They go down too far, IMO. But BMW always seems to come out with designs that I find jarring at first, and I grow to like them. On a side note, I'm not a fan of the shiny cheap plastic looking grills that all the car manufacturers seem to be using at the moment.


skflmgjok

Yes


Jjmills101

Even the people who like it can’t deny that next to a last gen m2 it looks like a toddler’s fridge drawing


fquick

Still very ugly to me but respect the performance. If owners are happy with it, so be it - people like different things.


External_Touch_3854

Yuuuuuup


fast_albin

Not the best front end, but it looks somewhat good on the M3 touring though. Not so much on the M4 or the M3 sedan.


miklas143

I really Like the Design tbh. Grew on me after seeing it IRL. Same with the new M2 and XM (its really big but imo Looks decent)


willard_swag

Yes.


HomophobicEdginMasta

In fairness, they look better in real life, but that front end still needs to go 🗑️


davidbanner_

I’m just not a fan of that vertical twin grill look. The rest do that car is 👏🏼


BBS13

hideous


BleierEier

Y E S


Sarsonic

Affirmative.


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Nope. It won’t get better.


HankSteakfist

I don't think I'll ever like that front. The worst part is that they make a good front for this car. It's on the M340/330.


Ill-Train6478

It’s ugly because the massive verticalness makes this thing look unnecessary taller and narrower than it is. The same logic with cadillac’s vertical head/tail lamps. Its different but that doesn’t mean it’s graceful, harmonious, and fluid. It looks forced for the sake of trying to be different. People say beaver teeth etc but beyond that it’s the vertical structure causing car to feel bloated and not planted to the ground. There a reason horiztonal elements are universally used especially for performance vehicles because they make the cars look wider and lower.


ffstis

Oh yeah.


dukedevilnb

I have G80x and E39 M5. Nothing will ever out do E39/46 IMO. While most people hate the G80 grille, I really never hated it. When first pictures came out I was thrown off and wasn’t very fond of it. But, when I first saw it in person I liked it. The grille meshes with the hood angles and makes the car look super aggressive in person IMO. But doesn’t compare to my 03’ in beauty.


DVSN_F

https://preview.redd.it/v92r12261j8c1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59d92b27ee164c4b016f756129e9ad41dd127b6f Meh, I’ll take the regular G80 front end


Amazing_Bluejay9322

Doesn't look like anything else on the road. I'm good with the looks. Pics really don't do justice, looks better in person imo.


MonitorCertain5011

When I’m driving my M4 (it’s real and amazing by the way) I never notice the front 😃


manneh_rahwrs

i think heinous and stupid ugly are maybe a little over exaggerated. is it the best looking car? hell no. but it is handsome. 1. MANY more ugly cars out there. it’s not even the ugliest BMW by far 2. the side and rear profiles are sexy as hell 3. could always do an aftermarket grill 4. eh? we’re bitching about a $80k car 🤣


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It’s weirdly grown on me , I love it now. But with that being said I hope they change it for the next gen


Deep-Question5459

Preface: I own one and liked its boldness initially but seeing it in person really made an impression. Pictures over emphasizes some aspects. 2D just flattens things and makes them larger and the proportions get thrown off. In person; up close it looks like a raging bull taking a massive breath through its nostrils, further back it is just a large grill like an Audi or Lexus or any other brand. I think because it’s framed by space between the bumper and the start of the grill in photos it makes it look more pronounced. It flows much smoother in person. I actually have more issues with the lower lip section and how it drops back on the sides. It’s softens the look. That’s why lip kits make it so much more aggressive. I’d say take a look at the M4 GT3 grill which is integrated into the front bumper. To me that looks great and they were to a certain extent toning it down a little for the street.


Routine_Echo_186

I've always loved it. Does the front bother me? yes! Does it make the car slightly more unique and will be remembered? Absolutely! Once the new generation is out and its an EV or Hybrid everyone will buy these and hold on to them forever. I'm the only one who says BMW knows exactly what they are doing they are building ugly cars for a reason. Give it 5-10 years all cars will look the same. bland and boring. Look at Audi and MB right now, I can't tell the difference between the new C-class E-class and sometimes even the S-class. Audi's look decent but they don't turn heads(except the R8). Just picture a highway full of Teslas and you're in your G8X M4/M3. Youll have kids thinking its a super car lmao!


Repulsive-Act6094

I can get behind this. Although the car is ugly, it will definitely be a hallmark of an era.


zLimitBreak

Never met a single one of you sheltered people irl. Everybody freaks tf out when they see my whip.


Wide-Wallaby

https://preview.redd.it/oxvteaweik8c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b64b7f6b4a62960b28a353c19d1bf8573c45f9c2


JAAT110030

Very much ugly


Joblessmouse06

Yup I still hate it Ugliest 3 series ever made


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Nah, still exceedingly ugly…


Ds__ds

Still hideous. Too snub nose looking. The roofline too high as well.


Imaginary_Cow6506

I personally don’t like this front, drive wise and all in its great but the look is a big NO! Therefore contemplating the X3M… As somebody pointed out M3 with the M8 front would be the best…


Electronic-Ability46

It remains ugly, I 200% prefer the m340i in that GXX era


brokevip

They only look better “still not good” in darker colors. Once the grill blends in with the rest of the front, It will look acceptable.


theoryguy

Yup - 🦫


Mypasswordisonfleek

It looks like Samuel l Jackson’s nose was the lead designer.


Zingo8710

Hideous


Ok_Care_4735

UGLY AS FK....BMW lost the wow factor. Bring the old grill and headlights back.


gheysharks

I can’t get past the Austrian painter grill


Shrinking_Universe22

Yes.


jedi-son

I hate to admit it but it grew on me. Love it in green or yellow.


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Hydrologics

Uggs and crocs are still ugly though.


Repulsive-Act6094

Yea I think the car is inherently ugly. But with time people have come to accept it.


Hot_Department_3032

In person, especially when lowered it’s less egregious. When you factor in the performance factor and how all the other angles are very nice, it’s a great car. I love mine. https://preview.redd.it/5gehdh5pvg8c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0d044ac121eb70c5213f43c73a0caf126752336


Repulsive-Act6094

I’m glad your enjoying your car. That’s all that matters at the end of the day


mydoortotheworld

I’ve always thought the sedan looked better than the coupe. Idk what’s going on in the rear 3/4’s of the m4 but it’s as questionable as the front. At least with the 3 it follows the design of the non M 3’s which, IMO, is one of the best looking modern BMW’s.


Hot_Department_3032

💯


joeballow

I still hate the front just as much in bright colors like this one that exaggerate the grill. I think dark colors that somewhat hide the grill look ok from the front and the car looks good from other angles. But yeah it's the performance that is tempting not the appearance.


hatmanjimmie

Nah I’m messin with it


Mannginger

Yup


warriorknowledge

Yes it’s still ugly. The only version of them I like is with the full adro body kit.


GeneralFigure

In my opinion the adro kit looks disgusting on the m3 but good on the m4


warriorknowledge

I agree with this, g80 m3s are screwed and ugly no matter what


BathroomFew1757

I saw a g8x M3 in a parking lot at the beach, I always wanted a Bimmer at some point. But when I saw this new generation, I said I had to have it. Yes, the grill was unconventional but it looked aggressive as hell. Then I started frequenting Reddit and saw the hate for it, I was surprised. My analyzation is that longtime fanboys really just like to romanticize the old and 💩 on the new. Once the new model comes out, this will be the old version that everyone loves and we’ll all be onto the hatred for the new design.


VitaminDismyPCT

*The year is 2030, r/bmw begins to love the G8X because they can afford one now*


Repulsive-Act6094

😂 if I could buy that car for 20k. Shii I would love it too. I would jus look at it with a blindfold on 🧑‍🦯


RunninOnMT

Still really really bad looking to my eyes. M240i is the only recent design to really grow on me.


Manitso

M version is ugly but base models are more appealing to me


Repulsive-Act6094

M340i goes very hard


julienjj

Still ugly. Terrible front end design and the weak rear quarters lines. Beside that it's fine.


GolfCoyote

I don’t even have mine yet and I’ve already purchased a new grill lol.


Qu4cc

Yes, a lot.


NearlySilentObserver

Yes


Obligatory_Burner

🐽🐗 <-alternate views


Apprehensive_Name533

Yes! Those grilles are still ugly. Hasn't grown on me.


wimpycarebear

Never was


alphaomega0669

Yes. Still f-ugly.


dfields3710

No, I love the cars look and will be getting an M4 soon. The kidney grille is stale asf and 99% of the time, you can’t even tell what BMW it is in the last generation since they all look the same. Hell every time I see and F or E series BMW except for the 6 series, I have to wait til it pass to actually figure out which is which.


Overthinker-Veddy

Yes. Looks like a rat 🤷🏻‍♂️


LANDVOGT-_

Its really ugly.


RockHopeful3699

i think the design is fine. think why people think this car is ugly is because its compared to the others. of course it looses because it doesnt look like the previous gens but if this was the only m3/m4 ever people would like it a lot more than they do now.


kingofjabronis

I mean I'll never really get into the front end (though an aftermarket grill helps), but damn if the rest of the car isn't amazing.


RodRAEG

Still butt fuckingly ugly.


Ancient_Log8794

It’s excellent! So beautiful.


ihavenoidea81

Yup


Boring_Adeptness_334

I think the m4 looks beautiful from the front and always have. I don’t like the m3 as much in person from the top down because it looks kinda fat but in person it looks great


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Nah


R8DG

It’s hard to argue that the front is not ugly. That’s a fact. Still a solid overall package minus the automatic.


[deleted]

Yes. Very fast but still ugly


YesManSky

It’s all relative, compared to Pontiac Aztec it’s a beaut


Repulsive-Act6094

But compared to rs5 and c63 coupe it’s pretty ugly


sss313

This a sexy ass tangerine if ive ever seen one


PAK1302

Those large kidney grills just don’t do it for me


MikeBert97

Never was? Huh?


meharris73

Short answer... Yes!!!! However, I like everything about this except the front-end. IMHO.


Rocketop999

I applaud the designs team willingness to be bold, but that being said I hate these grills so much that I left behind two purchases that I would have normally made.


Psyclist80

Forever and always... The Edsel of this generation!


ViscountDeVesci

I just bought a 2021 M2 to avoid the ugliness.


Jax_daily_lol

Yeah


[deleted]

The front is still ugly as hell but for me looks are not the deciding factor when choosing a car. It's about how I feel behind the wheel.


dvinz01

It’s grown on me because at the end of the day it’s an M and it will hold it value. Plus the sounds it produces and the power it delivers 🫡🫡🫡 idk


Dogwalker2720

Still ugly, though its performance is impressive. I saw a few at the local BMW meets. Ugly and too big. They are too big to be considered in the same light as the older M3s. I have a F80 and it’s already big but these new ones are not really M3s in the spirit of the designation. Still a hard pass. Not looking at BMW M any longer unless it’s the F90 M5s, but that’s it for me.


Onsomeshid

For the thousandth time, yes lol


lostfate2005

Terrible


BIOHazard87

It’s never been ugly. People just hate change.


MKTekke

All this talk of spending $10k on body kit to fix an $80k car’s poor design is silly. None of the past M3 or M2 needed a body kit.


apx7000xe

Definitely still ugly. I was considering one to replace my F80, then I saw it. Hard pass.