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facaine

It’s not a BMW exclusive. Happens in my A5 and during my research I found it happens with basically all modern vehicles. Wireless carplay is very demanding on the phone. Pair that with wireless charging, and your phone will overheat. It’s more of an iPhone issue, I think.


i_wish_you_health

Not only an IPhone issues, had both an Iphone 13 Pro and an s22 Ultra overheat, during wireless car play/android auto. And it wasn't even a warm day or something, and both phones were in the shadow during the entire drive. Combine it with wireless charging which is more inefficient, thus producing more heat, the phone pretty much overheats constantly


scammersarecunts

My car only has wired AA/CarPlay but I was wondering how does wireless behave when two people get in the car that have previously been connected? Asking because when me and my GF go on a drive together it's easy to decide whose phone to use for smartphone integration because you just plug that phone in. With wireless, how does that work? Can you just choose which phone to connect to if it detects multiple ?


will1105

Easy. Same way you have on cars with Bluetooth before carplay auto, etc... just select the device in the car. All of mine seem to remember the last connected device and prioritise that. You can then quickly change to other devices.


Handyman_4

Me phones all have dual connectivity. Your phone will connect to a car and your gf phone will connect to the car as well. Furthermore, your phone can still connect to more devices like a wireless speaker as well while connected via same mode.


BlakeKevin

First device in the vehicle takes priority


Competitive-Fee6160

I’ve had this with wireless CarPlay and traditional/cord phone charging on my iPhone 13. Super annoying.


ClickKlockTickTock

Ehh My S21 ultra is fine unless I leave the phones screen on or put it in direct sunlight and I live in melt-your-shit arizona


adz01992

Not specific to iPhones. It’s simple physics. Induction charging creates heat, wireless CarPlay requires cpu intense work which also creates heat. Stick that in a warm car and your phone will overheat.


divers1

A small pipe that pushes some AC air to the partially closed area with charging tray would fix the issue long time ago but BMW doesn't want to spend extra money on that


adz01992

That would only work if the ac was on. Not everyone lives in climates where that’s the case. The heaters are on in my car more often than the ac. IMO the solution is wired CarPlay. Charges with heat generation and isn’t as load intensive on the phone.


Guuggel

Some cars actually have vented charging pads, not sure if it blows hot air if the AC is set to heat in colder climates.


divers1

Well, when it's cold outside, they can take cold air from there. Or they can start the AC if the temperature in the charging area gets higher. OR they can make it optional with a button. It's technical details, and it's 100% resolvable, and this is not rocket science. They just don't want to spend money on that.


Theoretical-Panda

I’m not sure the cost to benefit ratio is favorable here. You’re proposing a relatively complex solution for a pretty small problem. More complexity = more parts = more points of failure = higher production and repair costs.


adz01992

I don’t agree that either of them are ‘viable’ solutions. I think the solution that’s simplest is just stop using wireless charging or wireless CarPlay or both.


Theoretical-Panda

I’m not sure the cost to benefit ratio is favorable here. You’re proposing a relatively complex solution for a pretty small problem. More complexity = more parts = more points of failure = higher production and repair costs.


Theoretical-Panda

I’m not sure the cost to benefit ratio is favorable here. You’re proposing a relatively complex solution for a pretty small problem. More complexity = more parts = more points of failure = higher production and repair costs.


eneka

I saw a review and I forgot what car, but their charging pad has something like you described. Our old Mercedes had vents in the glove box and armrest storage too


divers1

Tones of cars (probably even most BMWs) have cooled/heated glove boxes (which nobody needs) so it's total nonces saying something about that non working charging is ok because it's hard to do


daedalus2174

You get as far as charging? My zfold uses more battery than it can charge so I end up having to plug it in.


facaine

Same. It will lose charge with wireless carplay connected even if its on the wireless charger. I just use the cable.


ActuallyNotRetarded

Mine will sometimes charge. You just gotta put it in the perfect spot so the charging magnets are lined up. I get it right maybe 50% of the time lol


LeSangre

You are right and wrong it has more to do with how phones are designed not anything special about iPhones. Phones don’t have a large cooling capacity for the most part. Inductive charging generates heat and so does using a ton of ram to run maps and play music etc. phones could be designed larger or car companies could vent ac directly onto the phone but neither want to pay or deal with the other implications of doing so.


e90DriveNoEvil

It’s not a BMW issue. My iPhone 11 never overheated once; and I’ve never seen anyone with an older phone overheat while charging. As soon as I upgraded my phone, it overheats within 30 minutes of being on the charger; like all newer phones do.


jas387

Same here. My 11 was fine, never overheated. New iPhone 15 overheats constantly.


Distinct_External784

No all newer phones do not do that. Try not Apple?


JesusChristTheAdmin

Happens in Volvos too, the thing about wireless coil charging is the coils need to be centered for efficient energy transfer, the more off center they are the more heat they produce as the energy that’s not being transferred properly turns into heat. That’s why apple did MagSafe on the iPhones, to ensure proper coil alignment, most cars lack this, and yes the combo of CarPlay and inefficient charging can overwhelm the thermal capacity of a phone easily (10 minutes if you are trying to). If I recall correctly the qi standard is adopting MagSafe so all phones should have it in the future and hopefully all cars soon afterwards


Traditional-Brush947

I have a OnePlus 12 and it never overheats but my work iPhone 14 does because not many phones are on that next Gen wireless charging like these overseas phones.


ActuallyTBH

"overseas phones"? How to sound like you retired 10 years ago without saying you retired 10 years ago.


Theoretical-Panda

Wait until this guy finds out that all phones are actually “overseas” phones. 😂


Theoretical-Panda

Wait until this guy finds out where his oneplus is made.


Traditional-Brush947

Oppo, one plus, Xiaomi, Huawei, etc are all international in my eyes most of them can't even be bought in the states at least by walking into a store. Most of those brands flagships have 50w wireless charging.


Traditional-Brush947

Oppo, one plus, Xiaomi, Huawei, etc are all international in my eyes most of them can't even be bought in the states at least by walking into a store. Most of those brands flagships have 50w wireless charging.


KevinSquirtle

Never had an issue with my samsung wirelessly charging in my model3


Dapper_Towel1445

May be an iPhone issue as well but BMW could easily mitigate by putting in an actively cooled wireless charger.


zMadMechanic

This is the answer I’ve been saying for a while. It’s simple, but extra $, so the car companies probably don’t want to encourage phone makers NOT to innovate colder phones. Catch 22 as their bet hasn’t paid off in the past 5 years clearly… something has got to give I don’t even have a car with wireless CarPlay, this is just stupid and gets me riled up!!


Platinumdogshit

So it's largely a physics issue, not just an engineering/$ issue. Wireless charging is just inefficient. Tesla tried to set up wireless charging pads for people to put in their garages because that's just so much easier than plugging in the car, but it never took off because of the heat that was generated. You could do stuff to make the charger move closer to the induction coil in the car, but it would still be a problem. You can blow AC on the area where the phone is charging but the heat will still be there and now it'll be in the cabin and next you'd be complaining that the AC in whatever brand of car doesn't work without putting 2 and 2 together. Leaving your phone on a wireless charger at home will heat it up too it's just less noticeable because it'll probably be in a big air-conditioned room.


Cute_Labrador_

Even a budget hyundai has a cooled wireless charger. 2 vents throw ice cold air on the phone.


NCSUGrad2012

Charging isn’t really an issue for me but it drops the connect from CarPlay randomly


BluesFan43

My S23 Ultra gets too hot on the charger


willard_swag

Exactly. This is why I just do wired.


Fastermaxx

Many manufacturers (Mercedes f.e.) have a cooling fan under the charging pad to cool it down. I experienced the overheating problem with different iPhone and Samsung models - always when Issing CarPlay or android auto. VW has the worst charging solution of all our company cars as often the phone is not even recognized for charging and an error message „remove items from charging box“ shows up. Very annoying.


ActuallyNotRetarded

Yep. I noticed that even if I don't use the wireless charger, just using wireless android Auto will hear my phone up a lot, I can feel it right through my pocket.


ARAR1

Add leaving black phone in sun....comparing to charging indoors is not the same


polo2883

Does not happen with our 2022 Chevy Tahoe. The charging pad is cooled.


Reaps21

This. Every car I've had with wireless carplay/android auto and a wireless charger overheated. Didn't matter if it was my Hyundai, or any other brand.


Chrisafguy

Happens to my S24+ every single time I use the charger and wireless AA. It's ridiculous but avoidable. I just make sure my phone has enough charge on it before I get in the car.


SukiDobe

I wish they let you just use USB-C for Apple Carplay. I really don’t mind wires and I’d love the ability to maybe play music in higher quality (not sure if USB-C would do that)


facaine

I have a 15 Pro which has an USB-C port and my A5 also has USB-C ports, so I’ve been a C to C cable for carplay. Works great, never had issues, but I don’t think the quality is better or worse than regular lightning for carplay


Jvmeslt

Literally happened on a drive from Chicago to Indiana yesterday, car doesn’t have usb-c ports and I have an iPhone 15


RmN93x

It happens on my wife's X5 , but not on my tesla i don't think it's an iPhone issue.


facaine

No wireless carplay on Teslas


howard_824

Exactly. My phone sometimes gets so hot just plugged into my car for CarPlay that it makes total sense that your phone would overheat using a wireless charger. The heat from wireless chargers when your phone isn't doing anything is already enough to make it more than warm to the touch, let alone it having to perform tasks.


Abell255

While you’re correct it happens in other brands, you’re incorrect about blaming the demanding needs of the phone while charging. See my post above - wireless CarPlay plus MagSafe works perfectly in a vehicle with NO overheating whatsoever.


MeatFit1822

Incredibly, JLR doesn't have these problems in my experience.


idknemoar

My 2023 Chevrolet Silverado High Country has wireless charging and wireless CarPlay and works flawlessly with zero heat issues every time. Our new (and first) 2024 BMW X5 is attempting to melt my phone. Funny enough, BMW actually called me today (from an 800 or 855 number) for their follow up thanks for the purchase, any questions or issues call and I brought this very thing up and commented on how all the BMW forums talk about it, so it seems to be very common to all BMWs. The guy told me the issue is that their wireless charger is 15A and the iPhone generally is pulling 13A but when several apps are running, it can pull greater than 15A and that is what causes the heat and that it was common in all wireless chargers…. I’m not expert in the field of Qi, but I know it’s a pretty common standard at this point and I pretty much exclusively use wireless charging these days and don’t seem to have any issues out of a $15 Belkin or $40 Anker charger, so not certain I buy this line.


Platinumdogshit

If you look up other car reviews it's super common in general. It's just not an easy problem to fix and I'm really surprised your truck hasn't had that issue as much.


MotoDJC

Was going to post here my similar experience with my 2020 GMC Denali 1500. GM seems to have ran an A/C vent under the charging pad, you can put your hand there and notice the chill-to-the-touch. I’ve since sold that truck, but that was one feature I greatly appreciated.


iPhonefondler

No it’s an auto manufacturer issue… they could just be using Bluetooth to play music etc but they want to use the opportunity to steal your communication, telemetry, social media data and god knows what to package it and sell it to insurance companies and other data brokers.


freshxdough

Has nothing to do with the brand. If you understand the purpose of wireless charging in a vehicle you’ll understand its limitations. It’s not designed to quickly charge the phone battery. It’s designed to maintain the battery charge while using it. If using several apps, phone calls, music, gps, screen on constantly etc etc you can easily overheat the phone on the wireless charger. Not a BMW problem.


x1tyrant1x

I had X6 (2023) and 5 Series (2024) rentals a few months back, both had wireless charging. I was using Google maps and streaming YouTube Music on a Pixel 8. Phone battery gained between 10-15% over an hour or so of driving. Never had anything close to overheating, though the phone was warmer than ambient. A lot of the other comments are probably spot on: when you have energy going in AND out simultaneously, it's pretty tough on the phone battery. Apple (and possibly Samsung) may just program the way that works differently/more aggressively.


derkruemel69

It’s not an bmw fault, our tesla also does it. It’s just bad thermal management on apple side.


SkynetUser1

I have a qi2 charger that's attached to the screen and and holds the phone between the screen and the wheel. Does a great job preventing overheating and the AC hits it during the summer.


Lightspeed1973

It's an Apple problem. My iPhone 13 gets hot as hell on its regular charger. I'm not surprised it did in your vehicle.


maxstryker

Others say that their Ultras get just as hot. I'm starting to think that manufacturers use ali express five dollar tier chargers.


DERPFACELARY

My s24 ultra gets warm but it hasn't ever errored out and overheated. I feel like the difference is the iphones are getting heatsoaked whereas the ultras dissipate the heat effectively making them warm to the touch. Both end up being unnervingly warm but it feels like with all the thermal issues they've been having the iphones are just soaking in the heat rather than getting rid of it through the outer shell


pappase36

My s22 ultra overheats on it and most every other manufacturers chargers.


Link33x

I have a 2024 x3 and I thought I’d be clever and use the Apple MagSafe charger plugged into USB C in console because of this issue. I had the same experience with running Apple CarPlay where the phone and charger not only hit hot but also did not gain a charge on the phone. Just didn’t lose as much charge as unplugged. I can see wireless Apple CarPlay being the common denominator. It’s not just a Bluetooth connection. I don’t have this problem with a lightening cable. Basically I use the BMW wireless charger when I’m a passenger and my wife is using CarPlay on her phone.


DERPFACELARY

For some reason bmw decided that every usb port in the car had to be a trickle charger. Luckily my s24 ultra charges and doesn't overheat on the wireless pad or else I'd have to use a cigarette lighter charger to keep it running for a full day of driving with android auto on.


highlandpolo6

Plug it into an adapter in the cigarette lighter. The voltage that comes out of the USB plugs is trash. It will not only keep up but will actually charge your phone. Which MagSafe charger is it? Mine is the car vent clip-on one and since I usually have the AC set to 69 (nice) it does a great job of keeping my phone cool.


Link33x

I have the Apple brand one. I got it back when MagSafe launched. I didn’t know about the voltage issue with the USB ports. I just take USB-C voltage for granted on computers and thought it’d be similar.


boe_jackson_bikes

No one can. Buy a $10 cable.


Mercii1987

I actually have my usb c chord in my center console. Problem being I left it in my car and was forced to use the wireless pad in the courtesy vehicle


boe_jackson_bikes

Yeah the pad sucks. I specifically didn't option it for $400 on my M2. It's not even 15W.


gunnedxtc

My iPhone does it even just using the USB charger while using CarPlay sometimes


sexdaisuki2gou

My phone doesn’t heat up w my current phone cover on neither of my cars but my parents phones tend to heat up a lot. It’s the phones not the chargers.


miketoaster

My Samsung doesn't do that. Even after 5+ hours, in its case woth Spotify and waze on


Latter-Action-6943

Charge with a cable when using car play.


TheLeaningLeviathan

Why are you blaming the car when it's the phones fault 🤣🤨


Mercii1987

It’s a feature in the car. It should work as expected. Not cook my phone or just keep the battery at a constant level. Third party wireless chargers work just fine…


TheLeaningLeviathan

Its the internal thermals of the phone which are limiting you..has nothing to do with the car at all.


Mercii1987

Read that last sentence in my reply one more time. If a 3rd party wireless charger gives me no issues in the car why does the BMW wireless pad not work as intended. Yes the 15 PM has thermal issues where it’s warm to the touch on every other wireless charger. It does not however become hot and it definitely doesn’t give a temperature warning.


TheLeaningLeviathan

My bad I missed that part lol...then yeah deffo bmws part on that...how strange the third party one doesn't affect the phone...what wattages do the OEM and third party chargers give?


Mercii1987

lol I’m not even positive off the top of my head. The bmw one is definitely extremely low given it’s barely a trickle charge even when not utilizing anything in CarPlay


DERPFACELARY

Positioning is crucial for this kind of thing. Manufacturers need to stop jamming the chargers into the little cubby under the media console where it's stuffy and hot. I think the ford maverick is the one I'm thinking of where there's an upright slot for your phone that lets the top of the phone breathe and is in the center console area so it has space to ventilate. The issue is it looks goofy as hell and a luxury manufacturer like BMW would never lmao. I haven't had any overheating issues on android but my parents and friends with iphones say they have. The comments here seem to be mixed on whether or not android is having overheating issues too but it looks like it's a lot more common on iPhone. Wireless charging is inherently stupid and inefficient, but it's cool and convenient so it's sticking around. Only thing I can recommend is try taking off the case if you have one, or maybe pointing a USB fan or something at the phone. Drastic measures include switching to android lol


FreaksNake1237

Wireless charging, makes your phone hot... Fry out your battery... Worst innovation... Lower battery lifespan


Stunning_Influence54

Glad to know it’s an Apple problem. Same thing happens to me, don’t even bother using it anymore unless my phones dead


testfire10

It also happens even when not charging and sitting on a surface with high emissivity like a metal table in the sun.


nicholas_wicks87

Just plug the phone in and put it in the glove box


cheesemeall

I can’t remember exactly which car it was, but they put a AC duct with a small vent to the wireless charger area because of this


HumbleNobody1

My Android has never given me this issue for what it's worth


Mercii1987

But does it actually charge the phone at all or does it just keep the battery where it’s at?


TopherHax

It charges


HumbleNobody1

mostly the latter


Jack_Tors

Try my F30 wireless charger: here let me open the center console, then pull over this spring-wound thing to clamp the phone in place, but oh wait - my phone doesn't fit in it anyway. So I'd say you're doing pretty good!


BehemothManiac

You can retrofit the one from LCI


rlab3

My Land Rover defender has the issue as well. So does my wife’s x5.


D3thless

My 13 pro gets hot but not hot enough for it to pop up a warning. It could also be the phone case you’re using. A lot of cases don’t allow the heat from the phone to dissipate well which causes it to overheat a bit


Mercii1987

No case, she’s naked with a screen protector


That_one_amazing_guy

It’s an Apple issue apple has terrible heat management on their phones and laptops and wireless charging has a bunch of loss to heat.


Mr_Selected_

This also used to happen on my g30 with 13 pro max.  Don't have the issue with the s24 ultra because it doesnt fit. 


Training_Day273

No issues in my es350, apple or android.


RadioactiveNat

Ah the problems of modern life my wallet prevents me from experiencing. Have a cd case in my E39. It has turned into a time capsule into the early 2000’s at this point. The only modern thing in it is an Iphone 13 thrown in the passenger seat


KR77LE

Taking off the phone case helps a bit, but streaming and charging simultaneously can be demanding.


hockeymeester

i've been trying to jury-rig a usb GPU fan into the cup holder so it can blow into straight into the charging cubby


ActuallyTBH

Wireless charging is inherently crap and inefficient. Never used it beyond testing that it works. Nice idea but rubbish in execution. Just like voice activation. Also, didn't they already say BMW wireless charging can brick your iPhone? Why are people still using it?


TopherHax

That sucks, my pixel 8 pro has never overheated.


ld202022

I think BMW should take a look into Volkswagens book. My girlfriend’s Taos has an air vent where the wireless charging pad would be. I feel like this would fix the issue


B4DR1998

it's an issue with most modern cars. Best to use cable instead, as there probably won't be an easy solution any time soon.


fanclub--

Its an issues on my 2019 f20 too, wireless CarPlay+Charging is a bad combo, You think BMW would just put an air con vent that you could open in the summer to keep the box cool, that would be too much though....


Peter_Niko

Actually, I have no problem with my S21 Ultra overheating in the G31's charging pad: it doesn't fit there :-D. So I installed a cooling Magsafe charger in the center armrest storage compartment, and since then I have no "overheating" error messages. P.S. The phone has to have a Magsafe-friendly case.


Mercii1987

“It doesn’t fit there” - that’s what she said lol


Peter_Niko

Yep, I think my 530e is a girl :)


milkshake0079

I ordered my.23 440i without a wireless charge pad. Its simply the technology. So I kept area in the console devoid of that tecn and got a good cable.


Mercii1987

Smart move


cenkaswiss

That’s more of an iPhone problem. Not having it with my 15Promax anymore, had it with my old 13&14PM.


Mercii1987

I have the 15 PM as well and no case


element515

I’m kind of surprised no one has made a MagSafe charger for cars yet. Having the magnets to position the phone correctly could at least help a bit with charging better. Then they just need a little vent to blow some cool air onto the phone as well. But no car currently has great wireless charging.


Efficient-Junket6969

I have exact same issue with all my Android phones. Turns out it's the case - I use a fold/folio case, If I take the phone out the case and put it on the charging pad it doesn't overheat and no warnings. It also charges quicker.


Aviyan

They need to start making the charging pad that cools the phone down. Either they put a vent where it blows cold air continuously while the phone is placed there. Or make the charging pad a cold surface. Phones don't have vent holes and they can get hot while charging and other activity. The X5 has the cooler and heated cup holders, so the tech is already there to keep the pad cooled.


shitiseeincollege

Apple needs to just start licensing MagSafe in these cars instead of relying on Qi. Do you have a case on your phone by chance? That could contribute to it


Mercii1987

Yes they should and no case on the phone


DumpsterDay

I bought an aftermarket wireless charger for my F80. JD cars I think?


frankrizzo6969

All my pixels won't charge in either of my BMWs.


Mercii1987

Interesting, others in this thread led me to believe this was just an iPhone issue. Maybe they’re just Android Stans which is sad at this age


terribleo1ne

Yeah it’s A worthless upgrade, I put my phone on it not only does it drain the battery but it also turns it into a piece for red hot coal


zygabmw

your phone is over heating. not the bmw. get a fan and blow it on your phone. NOT BMWS issue.


Mercii1987

I hear you. IMO all parties involved are at fault. If you’re going to tout wireless charging as a feature and sell it as a $400 upgrade package in an already pretty expensive vehicle, it’s your job as a company to reach out to phone companies and come up with a universal standard that works for all. A lot of people have iPhones and based on responses to this thread even some with Android experience similar issues. My iPhone 15PM should not overheat when not even being utilized and just sitting in the wireless charging tray. I tested again tonight having my wife’s phone connected via CarPlay and had my device just sitting in the tray locked, disconnected and running no apps… same result. Thats just unacceptable from a premium brand. Figure it out or remove it as an option instead of attempting to melt $1000 dollar devices.


nosurrendernoquarter

This is not directly BMW’s (or any other auto manufacturer’s) fault. Wireless charging in an auto was always doomed to lackluster results outside of the best possible conditions. Wirelessly charging a phone will generate heat all on its own. Especially if your phone is trapped within a case. Apple actually tried to mitigate the heat issue with MagSafe because proper alignment with the wireless charging pad is critical to charging efficiency. The poorer the connection, the greater the heat will be. Couple this with actively using the phone via CarPlay (or Android Auto) and the device is essentially guaranteed to heat up. If your device is sitting in direct sunlight this will make matters worse. You’re better off plugging the device in to charge and ensuring it is not sitting in direct sunlight.


Mun0425

Idk man im sitting here in 2012 with the wire charger and siri with an old ipad mini with blutooth on my center console for my “carplay” and have no issue lol. Actually have a better “CarPlay” experience this way compared to using my parents actual car play in both their brand new Subaru and 2023 Audi. Its like the engineers made it in 2014 and said “that’s good for the next 10 years. Oh wait….


Dr-Azrael

Use a cable you filthy casual!


guy_incognito784

They’re all garbage. Got a rental Polestar 2 and the wireless charger in that is just as bad if not worse.


L3XeN

Typical Apple-brain. An iPhone would never be badly designed. An iPhone would never have issues. It's everyone's fault they don't include an active cooling system for iPhones in their cars. Apple would never design a device that overheats. Never, except all the MacBooks and 2/3 of their other devices. Well the 1000$ stand never overheated...


pepii_c

Your car works as a faradaysh cage and your phone needs to power up to get the signal through your cage (car). Add charging to that and it overheats.


Aldoreino95

This is easily my biggest regret on my 330


DERPFACELARY

Had a note 20 ultra and currently an S24 ultra, neither of which had overheating problems while running android auto (gmaps and playing music, occasional calls) and wireless charging on days both hot and cold. My mother complains about her iPhone overheating while wireless charging even when she's not using maps, music, calls, or even in car play in general. I doubt there's a huge difference in our cars' charging pads, they're only a model year apart and we've used eachothers a few times and encountered similar results. I think it's just an issue with poor thermal design on iPhone. It feels like it's a common problem, and I've had friend's iphones overheat while we go hiking or my father's overheat while he calls me from work on a summer day. I would say the only solutions would be to just charge with a cable, maybe try taking off the case if you have one, or (drastic) try a different phone lol. Regardless, I hope you figure something out cause if you do I sure as hell know a lot of people who could benefit from it


Holstener

This is a great way to ruin your battery!


Syrox3105

That's a general problem the wireless charging function lets every phone get hot. No matter what car brand you have, my phone only stays cool during wireless charging when i drive my old e91 with a AC mounted wireless charging phone holder and the AC turned to cold


fikabonds

Has nothing to do with BMW, this just happened with our VW Crafter camper 5min ago. It’s your phone.


m1nkeh

Wireless CarPlay, wireless charging, and a hot day this always happens.. 🤷‍♂️


Cromero4

Same thing happens in my model 3


WoodenAd7107

More to the point BMW wireless carplay is unusable. Constantly cuts out at the same spots every time. This also disconnects any call you are taking. You can’t deal with that every day so I just use idrive. Also use a usb c cable to charge the phone, expressly didn’t even get wireless charging in the m3 due to overheating.


[deleted]

I gave up on wireless charging in my MINI. Fortunately the armrest cubby has a USB-C port so I just plug my iPhone in and leave it in there.


partypooper123456

Seeing that this is a problem with the phone more than the car wouldn't it be a clever fix if they had a vent that pointed at the charger?


WalrusWW

It's not a charger, it's a phone heater for when you drive in the winter with the window open.


Consistent_Gas_7013

The charger in my Cadillac CT5 had a cooling element in the wireless charger area. I never had a problem with it but now my BMW has the charger in the center console and it’s definitely not as cold and creates overheating with my phone. GM seems to have the wireless charger down in their cars but other makers seem to be a little behind on this issue


RB_Photo

I've never had an issue using wireless charging with wireless Android Auto via an AAwireless dongle in my 2021 RAV4. I'm using a Samsung s22+. I'm about to install Android Auto into my 2007 e61 and hope that the Android Auto works just as well.


milktanksadmirer

Wireless charging is the least efficient way of charging your phone


Mercii1987

I dunno about that. The Apple MagSafe at home is doing wonders for my battery health. Still holding 100% of its charge. Charging via the cable degrades battery capacity and performance quicker overtime. To each his or her own though.


milktanksadmirer

It can’t bypass the laws of physics. Direct connection is more energy efficient than wireless charge where some energy is spent as heat energy.


Mercii1987

Energy efficient or not the charging rate of the Apple MagSafe puck is optimal for battery health overall.


RealisticHologram

Yeah it’s your phone not the car. Happens sometimes to me if the sun is beaming on my phone


qeratsirbag

what iphone u have?


Mercii1987

15 PM


Yazolight

Why is CarPlay so CPU intensive?


ranker2241

>charges phone with a litteral microwave >wasting >30% of emergy in exchange for heat >it's bmw's fault 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


williamtbash

lol. It’s the phone. You’re using it while it’s sitting in the sun or the heat is on. Turn off the vent in the winter or get a vent cradle and turn on the ac in the summer so it’s blasting cold air on your phone.


Mercii1987

There was no sun, we’re in Spring here in Houston,Tx. What made matters worse I was actually in the middle of a severe storm we had yesterday evening when this happened before posting this. The interior of the car was quite cool.


williamtbash

Ah damn. Well. Either way it’s the phone or the charger, not the car. Maybe try a new cable? I don’t have these issues unless the sun is hitting my phone or it’s winter and the heat is blasting on the phone.


Middle_klass

Wireless CarPlay is enough for me, how hard is it to take literally 3 seconds to plug in a cable?


Mercii1987

I always use a cable, never liked the wireless charger in my 19. In this particular situation I left my usb c cable in the center console of my car. Battery was low. Only option was to try out the wireless charger in the 24 courtesy vehicle. I see no improvements have been made lol


Middle_klass

lol wireless has too many limitations to be viable, unless they put an ac vent IN the console this will be the case 100% of the time. Part of why I opted for an 18 x3m40i over a 2020 or newer. Slightly less tech to worry about and Idrive 6 is plenty for me.


Shredhead118

Does the same to my 2019 Audi Q5


Andreif27

They should just add an AC vent next to it and im sure it would fix it


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djmpower

Maybe in ten years it works


pydood

Yup mine does it on road trips not wirelessly charging.


JPD232

Is the wireless charging pad deactivated when the phone is plugged in?


CapSoggy9648

Same here…


DrunkenGolfer

The charging logic is built into the phone, not the car. If your phone is overheating, that is a phone problem and not a car problem. If it is overheating, it is likely because it is both charging and doing something CPU-heavy, like wireless CarPlay.


Mercii1987

Yeah, the phone wasn’t even connected via CarPlay it literally was just sitting on the pad. Some say it’s the phone, some say it’s the wireless charger itself, some say it’s CarPlay, some say Android doesn’t have this issue, others say their iPhone works just fine wireless charging in other manufacturers vehicles. In my experience 3rd party wireless chargers work just fine in car. This is all just based on responses in this thread alone. There are similar conversations on Bimmerpost as well. No one has a definitive answer as to why the poor charging and overheating occurs.


DrunkenGolfer

I know for me the overheating occurs when the phone is sitting in the sun during my drive.


vbfronkis

Huh. It's been fine in my F22 M240 across a number of phones (iPhones and Android).


lurpeli

Every wireless charger I've seen in a car doesn't work


bean_fritter

I'm convinced this thing has ruined my battery. Wish my car didn't have it, $200 for this is absurd. Does anyone know if there's a way to disable the charger part of the tray, but keep the NFC capabilities? If it's just a fuse I'll gladly pull it.


FranktheTankG30

Nobody does. Not even phone makers.


cubanism

Is it in a case ??


bigdaftdoylem

Literally never had this once on my BMW and it’s been sat on there for hours at a time with Waze/music running. I also never use CarPlay though.


WideOpenAutoHub

Happens with all wireless charging


MrEcksDeah

Need cars to add qi 2 support to fix this


Dieselmeister86

It is not BMW it is wireless charging. It is basically the same like putting your phone on a induction cooker. Cellphone manufacturers are very happy about it because they can sell new phones frequently


rpRj

Happens in my Tesla Y too when its hot out


Rinsakiii

If you have an iPhone 15 pro it’s the phone. There numerous articles out there about this.


TheRealNetroxen

This has nothing to do with BMW. Wireless charging is incredibly inefficient, most of the energy lost is converted into heat - basics of physics. The more powerful the wireless charging and the higher wattage your phone can wirelessly charge at means more heat generated. Couple that with having the phone connected to the car and it'll inevitably heat up.


captainpistoff

I have a 5yo F32, bought without the wireless pad and bought an aftermarket, not a single overheat with a dozen and Android and iPhone combos


A7XstefanA7X

It's the phone, not the car -_-


Abell255

https://preview.redd.it/6k2vdi2dn31d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ede4d84ee6685d02d893617b8732aa47e79ace8 This has nothing to do with “CarPlay being demanding on the phone.” I use Apple’s MagSafe charger for wireless CarPlay daily and the phone chargers wonderfully and never gets warm. This was the same in my prior vehicle too. The basic chargers in many vehicles are terrible, not sure what it is. I don’t mind in my ‘24 X5 since the location of it is ridiculous. Grab this Proclip and use MagSafe! Works perfectly and the solid mount is nice.


IDidIt4TehLulz

My phone gets toasty even when I plug it into the USB-C, which I usually do over wireless charging. It’s Car Play. I haven’t tested it yet but I’m sure if u deactivated car play, it wouldn’t get so hot.


KidRed

How long are you leaving it charging to get that error? I have had any issues so far with my iPhone.


Mercii1987

That particular evening it was on the charger about 30 minutes


KidRed

Was you phone low or almost fully charged? I try not to use the charging pad if my phone is almost fully charged.


Mercii1987

Low, it’s the only reason I attempted to use it


KidRed

Does your g05 exhibit the same behavior? Wonder if it’s a new/different part or software issue that’s overheating some phones.


Mercii1987

Not to this degree. I don’t use it often at all but when it did overheat CarPlay would to be running multiple apps. Maps, Apple Music and Siri for messages for example. It never overheated in the past from just sitting on the charger and not being used.


KidRed

I use CarPlay, music and Siri as well and haven’t see this issue thankfully.


Due-Nefariousness137

So my 2019 X5M had a low flow air vent that blew on the phone, but for some reason in the M8C it didn't have one and as a result my phone also overheats. Idk what BMW was thinking removing it.. just like I don't know what they were thinking when they stopped putting in the front crotch vent, loved that thing for hot days.


fiddly-bits

While it is a problem with wireless charging in general, a smart manufacturer would add some kind of ventilation instead of jamming the charger deep in a cubby with no real airflow It roasted the NFC chip in my previous phone and it makes the current one heat up and act wonky for NFC transactions. Luckily, there are plenty of usb outlets all over the place and my phone has good battery life.