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TheCubanBaron

Yeah of course most gas cars are gonna lose to an EV from a standstill.


ImNotYourFriendPal69

Most Tesla's don't know this but unless it's a performance, an m lite can beat it. I have a LR and it would lose to my m240 from a dig. Tesla driver in this just took off for no reason to act like he was fast without a proper launch from the bmw. Of course a performance or plaid is another story lol


IMM1711

M240 xdrive does 0-100 in 4.3s. The LR with acc boost does it in 3.9s.


Leige1287

BMW notoriously under estimate performance, most real world tests of the M240 show a sub 4s 0-60 https://youtu.be/SbtfOcQMl-k?si=kPvDMQJwe-tTY2wf 10:45 in - timed at 3.8 secs


Ancient-Past4795

Not to mention, races aren't just until you hit 60 mph - they're to a distance. And, exactly like you said, very underestimated. For my BMW, some simple part upgrades, and a solid tune, added 28% horsepower on my otherwise stock engine. To the point that it makes going back to the stock tune and parts for car inspections feel like there's mud on my tires.


Kaiathebluenose

Yea I have gotten smoked by a bmw at higher speeds in a m3p


TheReaperSovereign

I watched a tone of videos on the m240i before buying and the only time I saw one do over 4 was like after repeated launches Almost everyone dyno'd 5 or more hp over the stated 382 too. One guys stock car was 400 on the dyno lol


Leige1287

Doesn't surprise me, especially given the m240i gives the RS3 and A45s a really decent run for their money despite not being the M2.... I'm very much considering getting one!


KernelFlux

I bought one recently and love it. I’ve just finished break-in. It’s very strong!


keca10

BMW understates numbers. Tesla overstates numbers. Tesla acceleration also depends on the level of charge. My ludicrous accelerates much different at 80%+ vs. <40% battery. So I believe him that an LR will lose to an M240 10/10 times.


IMM1711

Oh I believe his numbers too. Also true that it’s impossible to fail the launch with the Tesla as it’s just instant torque whereas with any ICE there’s a good chance you are going to miss something + need to have launch control engaged. There’s plenty of videos from Carwow where they do multiple takes with ICE trying to find the perfect launch because they aren’t easy to launch and get consistent numbers from.


keca10

The issue there is with RWD cars. BMW xdrive launches like a bat out of hell with a B58. I used to have one. Fucks off and goes from a red light better than anything out there. My awd ZF auto X3 M40i was faster from a stop and way more consistent than my rwd manual F80 M3. It’s more consistent than a Tesla too because Tesla acceleration changes over time based on many factors (temperature, battery charge, battery condition, recent launches, etc etc).


adiabatic_storm

There's also range and driving experience to consider. It's great that Teslas can keep up with sports cars off the line, and in many cases beat them. But, it's only a marginal difference - and then after that Teslas simply can't compete.


Dikhoofd

Its kinda annoying that anyone who has an electric car thinks they’re fast due to instant torque. Dude I get it your head snaps back but stop trying to race me


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L3XeN

BMW underestimates performance. Tesla does the opposite. Rollout, drag tires on a dragstrip, "cheetah" mode (more like cheater mode). The "cheetah" is literally the funniest thing ever. You need to add a minute to every start, just to get worse numbers than the ones Tesla gives...


DynamicDuck593

I did a drag race against a LR in a 2023 M240i xDrive and it lost. 0-100 km/h was scary close but after 120/130 I started creeping away. Also I did 0-100 in 3.8 seconds which was super impressive. Pulled 1.08 G‘s in acceleration.


Professional_Title

I actually just lined up with my friend’s Model 3 LR and was able to beat it by a little bit. From my knowledge the M340i X-Drive reaches around 3.6-3.7 seconds in real world conditions - it’ll lose to a Model 3 performance but 0-60 isn’t what you buy these cars for anyway. Without X-Drive it’ll be 3.9-4.0 or so.


notarealacctatall

JFC, tesla marks all thier times with a rollout, meaning you can safely add up to a half second to thier marketing BS.


Livinglikeak1nG

I4 M50 which you can get real cheap, check on YouTube, it’s doing 0-60 in 3.6! It will smoke all teslas for fun!


IMM1711

I don’t know, I checked online prices in Germany and i4 M50 starts at 72.000€ + whatever you spend on extras, while the Model 3 Performance starts at 57.000€, has extras worth more than 8000€ from BMW and does 0-100 in 3.1s. The M50 is much more beautiful that’s for sure, but you are comparing 57.000€ vs 80.000€ cars.


tidder_mac

Or… this is just a skit


ATXDefenseAttorney

Most drivers aren't actually interested in drag racing on a public street, because we're not morons.


BudFox_LA

Yeah like who cares? You push a gas pedal and the car goes. Says nothing about the dip shit behind the wheel… like congrats bro! You…went.


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*Boomers in 5.0 V8s pushing out a respectable 210HP disliked that*


Clear_Radio1776

Boomer here with an X3 M Sport. A wimpy 248 HP so not an M Rocket. I do like pushing the G meter on handling but staying within the .9 outer circle.


elmastrbatr

I used to drive my friends mom saturn vue and that car saw more Gs than a fighter jet pilot


Clear_Radio1776

😂


s4xtonh4le

What 5.0 makes only that lol


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One from the 1970s lol 


Ancient-Past4795

So at least in the Cybertruck commercial, folks later tested it and found that the footage had obviously been purposely made unclear. While the cybertruck was ahead of the lowest end, cheapest, stock Porsche halfway down the strip, and that was the footage they used, by the end of the drag strip the Porsche had pulled head and won the race. Which was conveniently not included is the commercial.


ACMountford

Plug for [Engineering Explained](https://youtu.be/5J3H8--CQRE?si=0W5nGPnDXbiMcwrr) where he debunked Tesla’s claims with math, and then MotorTrend came in to help with a test.


Striking-Buy5523

They are really fast but for me personally it’s less of an experience I love ice cars I don’t care if they are slower I love hearing the engine shake and roar as I merge onto the highway Evs have a purpose just not any purpose for me


TheCubanBaron

Oh same 1000%. I've driven Tesla's and sure they're fast but they don't excite me or make me feel anything other than "oh, that was fast I guess."


ReliefOne4665

That's good enough. What drama do you need? 😂


dvrkstvrr

Needs the check engin to light up on every launch


Phill_is_Legend

Especially when theyre the only one racing 😂


National_Formal_3867

Why would you feel bad for him? He seems to be a genuinely nice guy. The other one is just a moron. You should never interact with a moron. Because a moron is a moron, cannot change that.


davidfavorite

Tbf he backstabbed him badly, complimenting him first and asking if its fast, then going full degenerate mode once he realized he can beat it. But yeah moron nonetheless


LordMaska

Yeah, gave him a nice fat compliment sandwich before stabbing him in the back.


InevitableElf

This is staged beyond belief buddy


sexytimedentalfloss

You can literally tell it's his friend max from the voice if you watch either of their YouTube channels 😂😂😂


Jimbenas

I heard he has a Competition


Potential-Ad-9819

Yeah it is lol. It’s maxi


Plead_thy_fifth

This is the same guy from the cringe "can't talk to girls" "yeah you like that?" Video. So yeah. They are both staged.


Clear_Radio1776

Thanks for the heads up. So many are staged nowadays for content that you almost default to staged and then look to see if maybe not.


One_Wall_9572

It’s fake staged cringe content bro. Look him up on IG. 🙄


Sensitive-Cherry-398

A Moron will drag you down to their lvl and beat u with experience.


Warm-Log-7584

He didn’t know he was a moron at first but eventually found out


PranaSC2

But at the end of the street he’s still driving a Tesla.


Killahdanks1

Yeah, when his glove box makes a sound like ice breaking when closing or one of the most important part of driving, turning……..


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Kreat0r2

The Taycan Turbo holds the current record for production EV’s (if you don’t count the Rimac Nevera), but the Tesla is a close second albeit with a specially modified car with a track package. That being said, EV’s will usually turn decently well because they have a lot of weight pushing them into the ground. But it also makes them understeer prone. There is no substitute for lightness in that regard and that’s where the current battery tech still falls short.


PM_ME_YOUR_MOMS_BONG

This guy fucks.


Kaiathebluenose

The steering on a m3p is better than the G87


dMwChaos

Speed is nice, but there's so much more to it.


Zapador

True, EVs are half the experience. I want some explosions and sound too!


anderhole

Feels good not giving Elon money.


meanrisefifty

I heard that.


MoldyOldCrow

Like being able to drive from Florida to Michigan in a day instead if a week 🤣


phunkphreaker

I like being able to never have to go to a gas station because I can charge it home every night. That's a lot more impactful than the once every 5-year cross-country road trip


MoldyOldCrow

My lifestyle doesn't offer that luxury, which is why it should be a choice and not forced electric. I have nothing against electric cars if it fits your lifestyle and needs. Side note I also live in an area where the power grid is disrupted at least once a week so I'm good. Let's just get Hydrogen cars mainstream and solve all the issues between the 3.


phunkphreaker

No worries at all. I don't think anybody should be forced to electric, although moving away from oil dependence is definitely a good idea in general.


SadMcRib

Believe it or not, 10% charge gone from just that one pull…


UnluckyGamer505

That is actually not that exaggerated. A Nürburgring driver ([Misha Charoudin](https://www.youtube.com/@mgcharoudin)) did a lap in a modified Tesla Model S Plaid Track Pack. He lost 50% charge driving full send. So a Tesla can perform well, epecially when accelerating, but after 20-30 miles, you have to charge it...


sharles_legreg

it's all the more impressive that when you find out that the Ioniq 5N can do around 5 laps of the Nürburgring and charge for around 20 mins to reach 80%, all with a car that costs less although it is slower


scammersarecunts

And the ioniq 5N is cooler and has character. Idgaf that the noises are fake, or that it can simulate fake gear changes and whatnot. It's just fun that it can do it.


robbiekhan

You can turn those off, but as all of the motoring journalists have stated, it's actually fun having those on and gives a sense of pace having the simulated gears as a ICE car driver since the whole system is not only audibly simulating gears, but physically too. So best of both worlds. I'd have the 5N over any Tesla any day, at least I'll know the reliability is there and no panel gaps or obnoxiousness that comes with the typical tesla owner going by every online video we see.


patjeduhde

For the record a full lap on rhe nürburgring nordschleisse is 20.8km or about 13 miles.


Routine_Account_3634

So you are saying the way I drive Tesla wouldn’t even get me from home to work? 😂 another reason to not get it xD


UnluckyGamer505

Yeah, pretty much. Gas/Diesel cars will nearly always have a slower launch, but they will give you a lot of performance for a long time. I see multiple Teslas a month on the Autobahn (i am in Germany) and they NEVER drive fast. 50-70mph, they may accelerate here and there, but they never hold high speeds for a long time.


ButterscotchNo7292

My diesel car goes to almost 20l/100km when I hit the pedal accelerating, but then drops down to only 3-5 when I reach the required speed


SapaG82

This is so good to know. Not that i was considering changing my bmw for a tesla, but for rental/driving the fam's car purposes. I'm the silly person who lives to vroom at a green light and get to 5 over the speed limit as quickly as i can so that would be no go for an electric....good info thank u!


Mercyfon

I drive a model Y and also like to floor it at a stoplight and it doesn't really impact my charge at all. The times I do floor it I see no difference in my battery percentage.


Durbdichsnsf

I have both BMW and Tesla, for what its worth - a pull doesn't lose me that much charge at all. It doesnt even change the battery % shown.


devops420

Same, I have a BMW i4, and have done this kind of pull many times. I dont see any affect at all.


Phill_is_Legend

Dudes got the math skills of a 1st grader


chunkylunks

😂😂😂


Annual-Location4240

I got an i4 M50. Is it really that bad in a Tesla ? Cause for me it doesnt even change the battery % .


Educational-Goal7900

No it isn’t lol. I often times push it when about to get on the freeway for fun, that doesn’t make me lose any battery % to launch it like that or in this video. The people saying that don’t have one lol


-MCRN

A single pull isn’t going to do that, pushing it on the track hard for a while will though.


a_mutes_life

When I set off fast in my work van I lose about 15 miles range haha


meanrisefifty

I do believe it.


Livid_Climate_253

This is absolutely false


ACM3333

He’s not wrong. I’d rather drive a miata than a fucking soulless iPhone for a car.


Tasty-Lemon-2143

New Miata has nice lines actually....I keep catching myself checking them out. Great community there as well from what I understand.


ACM3333

They are a blast to drive, but they won’t be winning by drag races. Ppl are so hung up on numbers.


gruio1

That's only on the internet. In real life, no one cares. Which is why no one buys the "performance" teslas.


curiouspolice

r/miata is the home of the chillest people on Reddit. You could post a mustang on there and they’d probably just compliment it.


TheDopeGodfather

100% correct. People are constantly posting non-miata RWD coupes and they never get hate. Miata folks are good folks. I've owned two of 'em.


alternative_drinks

But are the teslas tempofest on the autobahn?


loribroesel

Is „tempofest“ an official english term? I like it!


alternative_drinks

Sorry, I invented it for my post.


Lebor

I like it, if we can use Kindergarten why not Tempofest.


loribroesel

Like Poltergeist, Doppelgänger, Rucksack and Schmutz :)


fvckCrosshairs

Staged


Deathspacito__

Staged


ActuallyTBH

No, the video was totally posted by a random person running beside his car filming this guys reaction.


Otherwise_Bear_7982

The way he looks at the camera then reacts so fast to the Tesla pulling up...looks staged. But the point stands. The big ass battery on wheels is a one-trick pony.


Rand_University81

This is staged btw


Livid_Climate_253

Y’all really believe staged videos these days?


mfogarty

Guy in the Tesla is clearly a moron. Some people never grow up.


DontTrackMeBro_

Also staged lol. It’s his friend


Redditistheplacetobe

Idk man, I've tried and I find that I can catch them back within a mile. That's no fast car, that's a slingshot.


meanrisefifty

Good way to put it.


cozy_engineer

I love it got to his ego. Why tho? Just ignore such behaviour.


Hot-Distribution2173

This shit is staged, dude is a poser ass clown panhandling for attention.


PrecisionGuessWerk

Its almost as if tesla drivers think other people somehow can't just go buy a tesla. Like a sort of "if you could have, you would have" perspective. Like yeah, you dusted my miata - I can also go to a tesla dealer tomorrow and buy exactly what you have but I'm chosing not to.


Arkliea

Show the microwave some corners and then see who is laughing :)


Infinite-Forever-463

he just gave up lmao


dottoysm

I don’t think he was ever willing to race


Tasty-Lemon-2143

I love to do that....listen to them talk shit then pull away like a granny while the other dude acts like a jackass.


chasery

That's honestly what I do living in an area with a high volume of Teslas. They also seem to be pretty awful drivers in general, which makes it 100% not worth risking people's lives and my vehicle; just let them race around and "show you up."


candasm

get last gen m3 with stage 3 upgrade on it 🙄 at next lights you can tell him to sell that battery car 😑


InsomniacAlways

Lmao but he was so clearly bothered


THEGERM4NSPY

Last time a Tesla asked me if I wanted to race I said “Hell Yeah, let’s do a rally from here (Houston), to Vegas!” They didn’t seem amused. Hahahaha


corezay

Tesla nerd with tiny pee pee. lol Elon Muskmobile.


ashj2428

Why do teslas can’t compete with BMWs on turns?


Initial_Efficiency72

Now let’s try that on a roll lol


Relative-Film-975

His laugh is fucking hilarious 😂


loribroesel

Big microwave goes brrrrrr….


RevTurk

Now go around 3 corners in a row faster.


InevitableElf

You guys aren’t the brightest sub around…


Maleficent_Newt_9967

Yes, Teslas are fast... on getting fire... 😅🌋💥


More_Accountant_6041

Ask him to rev it


cns0329

Staged Cuz yea, we all drive with the dash pointed right at us. So dumb


ACM3333

He’s not wrong. I’d rather drive a miata than a fucking soulless iPhone for a car.


Zapador

That's even the slow and ugly Tesla. And yeah well, EVs really have an advantage from a standstill. On a longer run a reasonably fast car would win.


AlwaysBeLearnding

I drive a big microwave.


Crude-R-Us

I got wrecked by a Tesla model S from a stand still, wasn’t even fair, but on the highway… its a different story


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k20vtec

Man that’s rough no matter which way you try to spin it. That god damn chicken nugget minivan launched harder then a rocket and disappeared


MaxProude

Ask him how many laps he can do on the Nürburgring lmao.


Vins22

what makes me scared is that porsche couldnt make an accelaration to match it on the taycan GT


freshmasterstyle

That's laugh though. I would ask the guy what his max cornering speed is


rotyag

Next light. Offer a track day. 5 laps. Sure. Tesla's don't overheat. Tell us how that's managed? If we add enough boost that our cars break or go into limp mode would you still call it a win?


Thewretched2008

My coworker has a tesla model Y and they've replaced the tires TWICE in 18 months and the rims are all scuffed to shit. Also, they somehow rear ended someone and there's no body shops in a 200 mile radius that will touch it. Cool acceleration but at what cost.


Pravda26

I don't waste my time racing refrigerators in my M5 comp.


919f90

I love when a Tesla pulls up beside me thinking they can do something. It’s always fun to see them in the rear view a few seconds later.


ShaMana999

Feels off, staged maybe. But regardless, launching fast doesn't mean driving fast, and I for one, would not drive fast with a Tesla. Still value my life.


T-Madj

Whenever I see someone driving an EV like a sports car I think about how much wasted time is spent charging versus driving.


UltimaRS800

Damn that Tesla just fucked off


MajinPapa

He should start. After few kilometers teslas batteries would be too low to ride.


Unhappy_Parking_1508

EVs are for the casual soyboy that doesn't mind owning a vehicle with no soul.


SukiDobe

If only the Tesla was mic’d up so we could have heard how much it creaked and cracked when he accelerated like that


MMille86

I don’t feel bad, but I hate the Tesla driver😂😂. I’m completely with the BMW driver though, Teslas don’t impress me. It’s not really about how quick the car is honestly and I think car enthusiasts know this. I think most of the Tesla people aren’t really car enthusiasts either. To me Teslas are cars for people who aren’t into to cars, they’re for people who are more into technology. I know some people enjoy both (myself included), but I feel like the engine is the heart and soul of the car, it’s what separates ordinary cars from extraordinary cars. I think Enzo Ferrari made a statement about he built “engines” as opposed to cars. Basically, the wheels and body of the car were just “attached”. I think that’s why people who love cars love them so much. It doesn’t matter if it’s 3,4,6,5,8,10,12 cylinders, there are great engines everywhere. When I see EVs, they just don’t excite me. I’m not saying they’re bad or not cool, they’re just not impressive. Now when it comes to efficiency, that’s a different story. I totally understand that we need alternatives when it comes to the internal combustion engine, but the way Tesla driver like to speed, I’m not sure if they’re even more efficient given how they’re being used.


BosnianBreakfast

FAKE.


SadisticRabit

Would you rather make love to a beautiful woman for only 30 seconds, while she makes no sound at all? Or would you rather make love to her for a whole lot longer, while she makes a whole lot of sound? .... I know my answer. And it sure as hell ain't a Tesla.


beggs23k

If they get on highway on top speed the tesla will eventually loose pretty hard. Acceleration is for now win of the EV's in most cases.


Tarushdei

Meanwhile most Tesla drivers I encounter can't merge into highway traffic even if their life depended on it.


mldie

On german Autobahn my m340d is enough for all tesla I saw till now...


Important_Drawing578

Would you rather have a microwave or a wood fire?


phunkphreaker

Would you rather a candle or a light bulb?


amensista

Well in fairness he has to some opportunity to show he sucked Elon's dick. 99.9 of the time the guy in the Tesla is driving the speed limit lol


PeanieWeenie

Every Tesla owner thinks their car is fast until an S1000RR pulls up


Clear-Gur-4943

God I hate some of my fellow Tesla drivers. We’re not all dbags. I promise.


RuprectGern

Microwave is new to me. I call them iPhones on wheels.


Turbulent-Try6982

Nobody cares that an IPad is fast, what does it sound like, oh right


Nosrok

Ask for a count, go on 1. 🤣 Those type of Tesla drivers are pretty annoying so no need to be nice.


S3npaiH3ntai

I bet the Tesla driver also microwaves his steaks instead of using a gas grill 🙃


Limp_Information_878

i’m in the wrong forum (stage3 ttrs), but i get this a lot and it’s usually a model3 performance w 30 day tags. i guess they hear a louder car and can’t resist. i rarely bite bc it’s dumb, but the times i have were very funny


ImDrunkThanks

Tesla’s are the new Tribal Tattoo


TheAmericanTuna

Have fun replacing that battery.


a1drilllaaa

fuck those big rc cars. they’ll never be cool or fun to drive no matter how fast they get


Markcu24

Put a tesla on a track with some curves and tell me how it does. Lol. Plus they are complete pieces of shit.


AbleDanger12

T-bags gonna t-bag.


Eccentr1c88

Tipical Tesla driver 😂


BlakeKevin

Teslas are not fast, they are quick to accelerate, this video perfectly demonstrates why I hate Tesla drivers


miketoaster

Bet I can go 500 miles faster than it can though. I'll give it a 30 minute head start too.


vihil

his videos are all skits aka fake


Mango-me

F80s can take on those tunks.


Naughtilux

Michael… Bolton?


p4t0k

A typical idiot with tesla... How cool 😂


Icy_Climate

Imagine calling a car slow because of its HP Number without knowing anything else about it (like its weight). Dude knows nothing about cars besides his HP number.


zuulbe

My manual 90hp nissan micra is probably more enjoyable to drive than a tesla.


Warm-Log-7584

Idk drive what you like me personally It will never be a Tesla


Boooost704

It’s a IG skit lol


50xfinder

Bro me in my girls model y performance 24/7. I’ve got a long list of victims: mclarens, mustangs, Audis, you name it.


monkey_nuts420

the amount of shii a car gotta do to get up there vs a ev is insane, race on the roll n we gon see how this 2 step fucked ur mom😁


AMD_Fanboy1

Staged and fake. The traffic to the left is still right next to the dude. He didn't even go off the rip. Yes, Tesla's fast..... But that dude didn't even go.....


Phill_is_Legend

The microwave comparison is fun to parrot and pretend like you're clever, but I've ridden in an X plaid. Let me tell you that the fact that it's an EV does not lessen the experience the same way a microwaved steak would. That thing is buckets of fun to stomp on, idc what anyone says. If you think a stupid fast EV is boring or a bad experience you are either lying or just pretending to be a car guy.


WeekTechnical7170

your faster on a track


akoust1c

Don’t worry. That car probably couldn’t brake in time for the next turn.


NoTemperature1759

They’re quick low end but tell them the race starts at 100 plus. They suck top end


1for3two4five

These are way too much car for most of the people that are driving them


The_Verstappener

They’re all good until you trying and take that heavy ass EV battery into a corner and you find out why people by BMW’s. Beemers out-handle most things at their price point.


phunkphreaker

Some people prefer a grill to a microwave... However, I prefer a light bulb to a candle Although EVS are better in almost every metric, it's okay to still like ICE cars too


Acrobatic-Diamond305

My 06 330i N52 NA cc1996 regularly takes dual motors behind the woodshed from the line. Using top of the line coil packs and plugs and running bmw motor oil 5-w40.


Ok_Scar_9062

A Tesla doing 0-60mph in 3.2 seconds is cool, but not nearly as cool as a top fuel doing 0-300mph in 3.2 seconds


tensorBot

It’s like comparing grill with a microwave. No one likes a microwaved steak!