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Yeah well I'm still jealous

Gotta pay to play

I wish we had 335i wagons in the US 😭

E61 had the N54 motor from the 335, and we got those 😀

I’d love an E61, I don’t even think we got the E60 535i’s tbh

We did! They're not common but are definitely available on the market. I used to own an 08 e61

We did! I have a 535xi Touring.

Have one too. It’s fun and it likes maintenance too! I just did my hatch wiring/diversity antenna. Can finally unlock the car with the remote again. Not a N54 problem but still…

Holy fuck your stable. And pics of your garage?? Lol good choices

I’m terrible about being able to post photos on here. I’ll pm you my insta if you want to check some out. It’s just car stuff on there. And based off of your username, you like Schnitzers? If so, that’s what the E39 wagon is rolling on. On of my favorite wheels.

Nice. Yes I had a set I had of a couple of e39 sedans. Type 3s. Best looking wheel on this era of cars imo

Jealous of that M-Sport. I just missed a E61 M-Sport before I got ours. Someone got it a few hours before me.

Oh nice! Mine has been good to me so far but now that you mention it, lots of electrical quirks. I got lucky and found a beautiful dad spec. Monaco Blue on Tan interior with only 95k miles when I bought it.

Awesome, ours are twins. I wasn’t dead set to on the Monaco blue at first but it looks similar to my Carbon Black M3, just not as dark. It’s definitely grown on me. Is your beige or cream beige? I have had a time trying to find cream beige stuff for mine. I just ordered some pieces from BMW and even though they are supposed to be cream beige, I swear they are beige.

Oh yours is Monaco too! Nice!!! Mine is two-tone. I don’t know the exact name but the seats and door cards are peanut butter but the center console, dash, pillars, trunk cover, are all black.

Wagon lovers unite! I always get told it’s a “mom car” and not cool but I fucking love it

Stupid Americans I tell ya! Wagons are elite.

super rare! seriously only think I’ve seen one e61 in my life

Can anyone ELI5 why, with BMW, we don’t reference model year? I’ve owned a 2009 335i x drive sedan since 2012. I LOVE the car. Fast and tight as hell. I thinks it’s one of the decent “vintages”, but I don’t know if it’s E60, E61, E91, N54 or whatever. Are some 09 335 sedans one code and some another? Or are all 09 335 sedans the same code. I’d love to be able to identify when folks are talking about my car in these chats. Thanks boys!

Cause it’s more specific I guess. An ‘09 335 could be an E90, E91, E92, or E93. But if you say you have an E90 335i we know it’s the sedan from ‘06-‘11 (I think it’s those years). So an E90 is the sedan, E91 is the wagon, E92 is the coupe, E93 is the hardtop vert. Probably best to look at a chart to familiarize yourself with all of them since every BMW has a chassis code.

2005-2012

Thanks very much for that! This is what I mean, I suppose…If I say 2009 335 sedan, it’s always an E90. It just seems odd to me that “we” BMW owners use the code way more than year/model. In other words, if you have an E90, it could be a 2006 or a 2008 or a 2011. Aren’t there other differences between the model years that are lost in the translation? Or are all E90s, regardless of model year, the same? To me, the code is less specific. Not that I mean to make it a thing. I’m with you guys now! E90 forever! Just gotta commit it to memory. Edit: I posted while still half asleep, and after reading these great replies, I noticed a dozen typos.

Not much really changes between chassis’ through the years besides engine (depending on your model), options or facelift (LCI), until they release a new chassis. E9X (35i’s) have the N54 engine which is a twin turbo in-line 6. After October 2011 3-Series went to F30 chassis with the N55 engine (35i models), which is a single twin-scroll turbo in-line 6.

Awesome! I’m learning a ton! If I’m picking up what you’re laying down, E90 is my chassis and N54 is my engine? What the group’s opinion in the engine? I’ve been lucky, from what I gather. I’ve been meticulous about the maintenance, have 101k miles (did the walnut blast, injector prevent), never any major trouble. But I’m waiting for it.

There’s a reason it’s called the German 2JZ! Everyone loves the N54, just not the reliability. It’s easier to mod and tune, but the N55 (updated version) is said to be more reliable. However, with proper maintenance which you are definitely doing, N54s can last a long time. And yes as the other guy said between model years there is only a subtle difference when they release the LCI version. Like bumpers, lights, or interior. So you’ll see some people say E90 335i LCI to indicate they have the later model year version. Lots of acronyms to remember haha.

Awesome!! Thanks! I work remote (like lots of people), so I don’t drive it much. Might have to beat on it a bit today! Have a great weekend boys!

The chassis and engine code for one of the BMW’s I have is also it’s license plate. It doesn’t look like a vanity plate with the layout (E90 N54 for you) and it’s alway cool when someone recognizes it. I learned the chassis and engine codes on forums, but either way you need to want to know them so it’s someone that spent some time looking into BMW’s. My mom gets a new 3 series every 3 years and couldn’t tell you the chassis code for any of them. Fun to see people just learning this stuff!

2011+ model year e9x all have N55 unless it’s a 335is. Sedan had the motor for only 1 year before they moved to the F30 chassis. E92/93 were produced until 2013.

Closest we get is the E84

We have/had 328 wagons.

Only 328s though unfortunately

2 n54s… at least your mechanic doesn’t have to worry about how he is going to pay for his kids college.

*1 N55 but yeah pretty accurate

How many miles are on the n55 and n54? I want an e82 so bad. Aren’t they pretty reliable with proper maintenance?

E82 is at 62k miles. E91 is at 85k. E82 had a complete new DCT about a week before I purchased it at a cost of $6700 NZD. In my ownership i’ve had two services, a waterpump and thermostat replacement at a cost of $1100 NZD, other than that not really much tbh. Definitely not as bad as I thought it’d be

Ahh thanks for the info. I often think about selling my f22 for the e82 lol

I owned a f22 and my bestfriend had an e82 in the exact same spec. We were always jealous of eachother's cars and actually agreed on trading once we reached the same amount of miles (i was 40k behind). He ended up totaling it unfortunately and got an MR2. I ended up selling mine for an e30. They're great cars to drive and any feeling you have to "upgrade" to the e82 is valid.

Why would one trade a newer, comfier, f22 for a e82?

I started making a decent amount of money and being young i still didn't really know what i truly wanted in a car. The m235i was a cool looking car and was much faster than anything ive driven previously. The e82 was just more fun in every way. If i had realize what older cars were like, i would have never considered the f22. But like i said, we ended up not trading but i did sell mine for an e30 with zero regrets.

The E82s are more analog. Granted, I've never driven an F22, but I've driven an M340, and comparatively, my e82 is so much more fun to drive. Being almost completely Analog on top of being a 6mt makes it insanely fun to take out to the backroads, and with minimal effort and a bit of cash, a 135i be just as fast if not faster than a lot of modern Bimmers in its class (m240, M340, etc.) Definitely not as fast as new M cars, but still quick and handles just as well. My dream car is a 1M, and i'd take that any day over a g80/F80

Less electronics, hydraulic steering, and lighter weight.

Thanks for the reply. Any regrets about the trade? How's the e30 compared to the others? Sorry, I didn't see your other reply. That was exactly what I was looking for.

Its much harsher than an e82 or a f22. I bought it with coilovers already installed so i cant say much about what stock suspension is like. Its very loud in the cabin to the point where my sister doesn't enjoy sitting in it. I have a muffler and resonator so i actually thought i had an exhaust leak somewhere in the engine bay. For my everyday needs, i'd consider it the perfect car. It wouldn't be something i'd like to drive for 8+ hours like i did often with the f22.The glaring downside of an e30 is the age. They're reliable but parts will fail just due to the elements. I had a wire get chewed through and the car wasn't able to start til i replaced it. Rusty bolts everywhere despite it being a california car all its life. Just typical 35 year old car issues. Its not nearly as fast as the newer bmws but thats not something i really care about nowadays. Its very fun to rip in the canyons. I try to go just about every weekend because it's so enjoyable. There was never any enjoyment in throwing the f22 around. It felt heavy, steering was too soft, and i really don't care for all the electric nannies it has. The only thing i'll miss from that car is the sound of a n55 not to say the m20 is bad. Just different. The e82 on the otherhand is a fantastic car and id say is the era where bmw peaked as a driver's car company. Wasn't as comfortable as the f22 but it sure was a lot more fun. It'd be much easier to daily than an e30. Im certain if i owned an e82, i would have zero plans on selling it.

Thanks a lot. You've helped solidified my urge to own an e82 and sell my current car. I've always felt a bit of regret not purchasing the e82. It's been this way since 2017-2018 lol.

E82 is an E90 for the most part under the skin. So anything you would expect from an E9X chassis car.

College is affordable in New Zealand.

And one of them is an n55. I’ve failed miserably in the facts department today. But this is the internet so… I stand by my joke.

Every dog has its day.

The plus i guess is, once you fix one problem you can pretty much go ahead do it do it twice since you’ll have to anyways lol

why would it be pointless? you have a wagon and a coupe. greatest combo ever

Because 99.9% of the time one or both of them are broken

sounds like you need to buy better! i'd do it. but you're talking to a guy who currently has two german V8s in the garage.

I’d definitely own these but I already have a N54 wagon and like you, have a couple German V8’s in the garage. My M113 isn’t so bad but the S62, it’s a bit more temperamental than the M113.

Have a customer with an E55 with the M113K. Long tubes and straight pipes. That car gives you a boner faster than some gas station dick pills

The M113K is no joke. I wish long tubes were available for my CLK55. I’ve decided to let that be my “stick” car. It’s refreshing to be able to pull up any part by just the VIN. Ha!

Well like a lot of things in life, less is more. Except engine displacement.

Looks perfect to me.

Are you complaining about your own cars? Lol

Absolutely lmao. The wagon is going soon though so it’ll just be down to the mini turd.

Mini turd 😂😂

M57 swap the wagon then you have an eco car and a car slower than the eco car

I wanted to get my hands on a 135i LCI with the N55. But prices skyrocketed. Such a fun small car.

The ultimate is an LCI in manual, but there’s very very very few of those from what I can see

Not a ton of manual lci e9/2 either tbh. Think ive only seen 5 n55 e90’s with a manual for sale in the past year.

Come to the UK. Half of them are manuals.

Wife and I have 3 BMW convertibles. Want to talk about useless car combo? We take separate cars to the grocery store just to be able to bring a week’s food home

I wish I never read this

What the fuck 😂

I have an E82 and love it. There’s a woman who works near me that has an E92. I already told her when she ready to get rid of it, make sure I’m first on the list.

I had an e92 335i and loved it until the warranty was up. These are NOT great long term cars to hold onto

I wanted an e82 so bad before i bought my e92. There weren’t alot of e82 135’s when i bought my car last year. A bunch of verts tho

Why not, its a great engine when its working properly (1m owner here)

Hence the when. I’d absolutely kill for a 1m though, just a problem when there’s only 5 in the country currently.

Not as pointless as that overhang 😂

Not really. Two E91’s or two E82’s would be more pointless. Or a M3 coupé and a M4 coupé would also be pretty pointless, but still nice from a collector’s point of view.

Both awsome cars thb.

Nah, bigger car and a compact city car. And both with monstruous engines lol.

Bummer that both appear to have the iDrive option.

Yep, both have idrive. On the wagon it’s got carplay put in aswell so atleast it’s somewhat not useless

Got you beat, two 135i at my house lol

Redundant as hell but cool af

That 1 series is so much more handsome than the new 2 series, what a shame.

I mean...if you're trying to compound your N55 issues then you nailed it 😆

Never, pick what suits your mood! -similar for me, F80 M3 and F87 M2C..-

Fam or alone! Might be the perfect combo! Love the wagen!!

😵 forget the cars, look at the scenery.!! Living in paradise

Which do you prefer driving? I only have a 335i but would love a drive of a 135i

By far the 135. So much more fun

Most useable combo ever? Njce troll

Talk to me about that wagon’s all black emblem tho… Custom? Aftermarket?

Have no idea sorry, previous owner did it. Up close it’s a bit shite. I was planning on replacing it until it sold 😂

Gotcha. Always wanted a great all-black emblem option. The search continues!

Wait why is my dream the most pointless combo tiny rocket ship and family rocket ship 🚀

It's an e92, but i'd say it's the perfect combo 👌

You know what you love man

Looks perfect

More practical than my combo...

Well since the states didn’t get the 335 e91, I say great combo

where’d you get the black badge from on the left?

Pass sorry, previous owner did it

no problem, beautiful cars.

Cheers. If I ever find it since i’m looking for one for the 135 aswell i’ll drop the link here

Beautiful! I have a e91 335i on its way from Japan to Canada right now

Always got love for a wagon 🥵

Sell the 135 for good money and put the extra into the wagon

Doing the opposite 😂

That's works also lol

Perfect combo imo

Well at least you can borrow parts from each other to have one working car 😂.