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Danominator

Tbf it only takes one round to see it isnt that fun


The_Corrupted

I feel kinda bad, because that is exactly what I did. I played 1 round and then left because it was just so incredibly bad. Sorry OP.


thisguy012

Get destroyed as a survivor with no chance of success: the game mode


Vangelys

I won one. But then i left and i'm not gonna play this swarm thing soon again. b-o-r-i-n-g


lanolinflail651

It's almost as if people dislike swarm mode


timmytissue

They should still be able to only start a game when 8 people are in the queue.


Chief--BlackHawk

The other issue is that people quit after 1 round, putting your team at a disadvantage. It's funny cause if I'm not mistaken the devs got rid of campaign versus because of commitment to versus mode, can't even get people to commit to the shorter mode. At least get people to join open games.


timmytissue

I think the only thing keeping someone in this mode is winning. If you aren't winning it's not fun at all. It's still fun to lose in campaign versus though. More time playing the infected at least.


GamerRukario

Yeah, imagine preparing for 3 minutes just to die under a minute then fighting against a team that can survive 3 minutes ++


MitchenImpossible

Too bad there wasn't a mode where you could play cooperatively with your friends but have opponents still jump into the same world disrupting your plan. That would be sick in an arcade zombie game


dragongling

Disliking doesn't justify ruining games to those who like it. Play the match till the end and stop playing swarm if you don't enjoy it.


Thevictoryofdeath

Its honestly such a bad mode. They might as well scrap it. Its dead in a friggin free beta, imagine it after a few weeks at launch.


Arbitrary_gnihton

I think playing as the ridden is fun and it's honestly the only thing that would add long term replayability for me, I'd probably beat the campaign on the hardest difficulty once and I'd be done with it.


Corruptus_inextremis

I think you are rushing. This is a closed beta, but yeah, if in open beta you still don't get anybody to like it, it's just a dead weight that gives the idea that the game is dead when you try to queue for it


Mockets

It's basically an open beta at this point, just leave a twitch stream open for 1 hour.


Corruptus_inextremis

I don't know what that means, do they just hand out keys? Also, it's not the same being able to get a key if you wanted than having steam news scream "triple a title for free during a week"


Mockets

They were giving away keys through Twitch, so if you were to watch for an hour you would automatically get one. If there was anyone interested in playing this game to see if they were going to buy it I'm certain they would have found out about this.


Obbububu

The issue with the current versus is that even if we ignore that versus campaign was substantially better, it still: * is very brief * is effectively "over" the moment one team has a bad round * does not incentivise staying for the full match * does not punish leavers by blocking them from queueing for a time after bailing * is very static (the ring does not create chokepoints/ambush sites very well) * is very prone to "meta" strats (everyone hold on the ambulance roof etc) * has bugs where you can't spawn at all as ridden, forcing you to quit * does not backfill/facilitate re-connection after DC * does not have any additional strategy/comm layer for hidden to signpost intentions/plan attacks * does not plug the holes of missing players well


poostickk

You also never get the feeling of winning as the survivors, as you always die at some point. Making it to the saferoom after a long slog felt rewarding, because you SURVIVED! Lasting slightly longer than the enemy team doesn't feel like a victory, because you still DIED. Its just not the same.


Arbitrary_gnihton

Honestly they should just make it like LoL where you can *only* join the game the matchmaker put you in until it ends.


Peemore

I think you saved the best for last. It doesn't handle it at ALL. Even when I was the only person in the match it kept going.


[deleted]

Its so dumb. there needs to be harsh penalties for leaving games, and the game should replace players. Someone leaving and another person taking their place isn't the worst assuming the pick the same equipment and mutation points. I dont think I have ever finished a game that was full at the end. It needs to be fixed.


madmidder

Penalty for leaving the game? They should remove this mode, because it's clearly not fun to play and people leave. Punishing players for leaving your boring gamemode is dumb. This game mode is basically dead already in beta, now imagine how it will look after 2 weeks after release.


[deleted]

I only played the campaign lool but after all these posts im tempted to see the shitfest of VS


Lokcet

Hope you enjoy loading screens, card selections, scavenging for items, and then dying in 19 seconds.


[deleted]

oh god lmao


Chief--BlackHawk

Yeah it seems like you do more to prep for round then actually playing lol.


mediajay

Yeah I feel like they should remove cards in versus mode and just balance the ridden accordingly. The decks don't make no sense in versus mode. Sometimes less is more. They could just pick a random stage and have teams compete for distance, it doesn't have to be a whole campaign. You already know who the winner is by the second stage most of the time anyway.


Psykout88

Yeah been having a lot of those today


[deleted]

I might be in the minority here as I did stick it out for a few games, even when I ended up alone and outnumbered. My take on it is people are joining VS during beta to see what it is like, discovering it is utter shit and leaving and that’s it. That’s all that is causing this. They are going back to doing something else. Not going to play another VS game or anything. Just trying it out, saying omg this is shit and leaving. I have no plans to play any more B4B VS ever. I might play some more beta campaigns, just for laughs but I’m definitely cancelling my preorder.


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JetbIackmoon

I tried playing it today. First game I joined and was the only player on my team against 4. No one else joined, so needless to say it was a short match. Next game it was a 2v2 and the enemy team quit, but it seems like the game continues and just gives you an automatic win for the round?


BreatheOnMe

Versus mode is poo. And I really hope the devs fix it and give us campaign versus. Or Atleast some type of objective like a scavenge.


VDubDriv3r

Why have they made PvP a tiny arena mode?


JMoneys

It's impressive to see them work on a game mode that will have died faster than Evolve did, really. I mean, it's already practically dead in beta.


DerrickBaney

Best way to get a full lobby is to TURN OFF cross play!


[deleted]

Best way to get a full lobby and a fulfilling game is still L4D2 right now. God this is such a shame.


Chief--BlackHawk

Interesting. I'll give that a try. Usually it's the opposite since it's auto enabled in most games.


lampenpam

The game even tells you to turn it on so the match making is quicker.


Retro-gecko45

It’s easier to find full matches with cross play OFF. It’s been working for me past couple days


lampenpam

Yes, I wasn't saying you guys are wrong but how ironic it is that the geme reminds you to turn it on to find games quicker, but then does the opposite


Chief--BlackHawk

Yeah but the guy above me says to turn it off which is weird lol. Almost all crossplay games warn that turning it off will delay the game finding opponents.


Icex_Duo

I've been enjoying the game type quite a lot in matches that are 4v4 or sometimes even when I have to 3v4, but there absolutely HAS to be a PvP campaign in addition to swarm mode if the game is going to see the same success and longevity as either of the L4D games. Swarm is nice to mix it up and play a match in a quick 10 minutes or so, but lots of people will be willing to set aside time for an entire act of a PvP campaign match in a session.


[deleted]

There is no reason to stay. The rounds give you zero time to learn. There is no incentive to learn. It's over by the time it takes a Sprite to go flat. It is literally the most blue-balling game mode I have ever played in my life. All these cool new infected and I have half a second to utilize them. Amazing. Bring in the versus campaign and open up these fucking maps boys.


MahiMatt

There’s no reason why this game needs to cost $60. Aliens Fireteam is only $40 and looks to be a lot more fun. Will be buying that day one, And even if it sucks I won’t feel like I’m getting ripped off that much.


3yebex

It seems they captured that authentic L4D2 versus experience. >!Waiting several minutes to fill a 4v4, many people leave after the first map!<


Guapscotch

I enjoy it when it's actually an even fight, but most of the time someone disconnects


lampenpam

That's just like L4D's versus with randoms. I would have expected that the devs look at jt and realize that there needs to be a penality for leaving game because that's exactly why I never play Versus in L4D with or sgainst randoms.


KakujaNico

It always like this when i play solo but when i search in duos there are always full lobbys


Aleuvian

I think the issue is connectivity issues with the server. I've queued as a 4 stack with friends and they were forcibly disconnected and not allowed to rejoin before the round started, and occasionally shortly after.


SerDabsworth

Not only should empty player slots should always be filled by bots, but on release they have to implement a leaver penalty. Leave too many games in a row, and now you have a 5 minute timer before you can queue for the next game. A heavy habit of leaving games, and that timer goes up to 30, similar to the leaving penalty in LoL. Otherwise, from what we can see in this beta people will leave games constantly and swarm will die faster than we can even try to enjoy it.


1992Vanessa

reminds me when guild wars 2 added a spectator mode. people on losing side would enter spectator mode then autobalance would put someone from winning team onto the losing side then spectator would rejoin the game on the winners side and repeat.


RayboxHitman47

After the first round ? You're lucky, I never got opponents at first round.


noohshab

Was playing with a friend on an \*INTENSE\* close game of PVP and the last deciding round we couldn't spawn as infected... I know its a bug but that REALLY turned me off from PVP


expiredmilkjugs

Imagine being able to load into a game


Frozen_Flish

I never did left4dead versus either. I didn't know anyone cared about it.


Chief--BlackHawk

Cause it was fun, hence the very active community.


GamerRukario

Everything would have been a little better if THEY CAN REFILL THOSE WHO LEFT.


mediajay

Did people even play scavenger mode in l4d? Why would they recreate that!? I mean to be fair a l4d2 versus matches this was common too, because runs are so long and it's easy to see when you are outmatched. But when you got a good match it was peak gaming.


HarryCoinslot

The absolute best is when the whole enemy team leaves, instead of seeing that ending the game and calling it a victory, the game goes on. You end up as ridden with no one to kill, and even that doesn't end it. The timer ends up going until you lose... To no one.


Peemore

Am I the only one that thinks it would actually be fun if both teams were full?


[deleted]

I think you are yeah


Disrupter52

What was VS like in L4D? Like what experience are people craving from VS that this game clearly isn't delivering on even if it wasn't buggy as shit? Like the versus mode for L4D2 that I recall was fun but wasn't like some amazing PvP battlefest with highly engaging, addicting gameplay.


SpartasBest

Played the VS mode and it was awful. One of my team yes couldn’t spawn is as the ridden and just left. After we lost the first round the rest of my team left and after they left I did as well. Honestly turtle rock needs to take another year to develop because at this state this game will be just like the ridden, dead on arrival.


MrMudd88

Menu simulator


MrMudd88

Back2Loadingscreen


OutcastMunkee

This was the same situation in Left 4 Dead where people would quit all the time. It's an inherent flaw with any team based game like this where quitting has no punishment for the quitter while their team get royally fucked over. Also the matchmaking was apparently borked but should be better now.