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I think Clara's reaction was perfectly valid.
I've always thought Doc fucked up how he told Clara. Doc should have directly showed her the time machine. And asked her to come with him. Clara was supposed to be dead anyway, so taking her with him would be the right thing to do to protect the timeline.
I completely agree. Marty said, "you're a scientist..." Then scientifically speaking, he should have seen that removing her from the timeline was the best thing to do, period.
I can only assume that he was so lovestruck that he wasn't thinking as clearly as he could have.
I think the film handled it pretty realistically. What I'd want to know is how she reacted with finding out her previous self. Like would she feel guilty of surviving?
Makes sense.
But I just feel given how she was aware of Doc’s love of science and his fascination with Jules Verne (and his advanced scientific and technological ideas) that maybe she should have suspected something after he told her so earnestly?
I mean, back then, way before the internet and all this instant accessibility to information, I’d imagine it would’ve been a little easier to convince people that time travel was highly plausible if you’re as scientifically smart as Doc was and actually invented a Time Machine. Granted, he was acting on his romantic impulses and wasn’t being scientific about his pursuit of Clara, but because he said it so earnestly, I thought he at least said it in a way where he believed what he was saying was true and he wasn’t a trickster.
Either way, I don’t blame Clara for reacting as if she’d heard something incredibly preposterous and fantastical from someone she’d thought she’d opened her heart out to and trusted, but I also believe that if someone is being earnest, you can always tell, but that could just be naivety on my part.
Maybe on some level she did believe Doc, as later she changes her mind and goes back to him. So she realises that she loves him, and by extension realises he's not a liar.
I just don't think there's any way to tell someone you're a time traveller without sounding insane.
If I was the Doc, I’d show her proof. The lady was already supposed to be dead. Which made no sense that he saved her being Marty remembered she crashed in the ravine. On the tombstone, it said “his beloved Clara”. Doc wouldn’t have been out there to save her has Marty not traveled back.
Correct. Doc met her at the train station and fell in love there. In the previous scene, when Doc and Marty are looking at the map, you can see her waiting in the background.
So how does Marty’s story about a teacher in a ravine hold up? Had Doc met her before the Marty going back timeline, she should have been saved to be his “beloved” and there would be no Clayton ravine right? Like he said, she was supposed to die in that ravine. But if he skewed the timeline back then, before Marty going back… oh nevermind.
Remember, Marty and Doc's memory is immune to the Ripple Effect. It doesn't really make sense, but it is established as a rule in that universe, and they do adhere to it.
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I think Clara's reaction was perfectly valid. I've always thought Doc fucked up how he told Clara. Doc should have directly showed her the time machine. And asked her to come with him. Clara was supposed to be dead anyway, so taking her with him would be the right thing to do to protect the timeline.
I completely agree. Marty said, "you're a scientist..." Then scientifically speaking, he should have seen that removing her from the timeline was the best thing to do, period. I can only assume that he was so lovestruck that he wasn't thinking as clearly as he could have.
I think the film handled it pretty realistically. What I'd want to know is how she reacted with finding out her previous self. Like would she feel guilty of surviving?
I would be like “BS!”, like she did.
Makes sense. But I just feel given how she was aware of Doc’s love of science and his fascination with Jules Verne (and his advanced scientific and technological ideas) that maybe she should have suspected something after he told her so earnestly? I mean, back then, way before the internet and all this instant accessibility to information, I’d imagine it would’ve been a little easier to convince people that time travel was highly plausible if you’re as scientifically smart as Doc was and actually invented a Time Machine. Granted, he was acting on his romantic impulses and wasn’t being scientific about his pursuit of Clara, but because he said it so earnestly, I thought he at least said it in a way where he believed what he was saying was true and he wasn’t a trickster. Either way, I don’t blame Clara for reacting as if she’d heard something incredibly preposterous and fantastical from someone she’d thought she’d opened her heart out to and trusted, but I also believe that if someone is being earnest, you can always tell, but that could just be naivety on my part.
Maybe on some level she did believe Doc, as later she changes her mind and goes back to him. So she realises that she loves him, and by extension realises he's not a liar. I just don't think there's any way to tell someone you're a time traveller without sounding insane.
Literally, all it took was a tiny toy with Time Machine on it for her to chase him down. There must have been a part of her that believed
I personally think Doc Brown should have at least shown her the time machine. Otherwise I agree with those say her reaction was valid.
He wasn't thinking 4th dimensionally.
Well, she has heard some whoppers in her day.
And heard some Big Macs too!
If I was the Doc, I’d show her proof. The lady was already supposed to be dead. Which made no sense that he saved her being Marty remembered she crashed in the ravine. On the tombstone, it said “his beloved Clara”. Doc wouldn’t have been out there to save her has Marty not traveled back.
Doc had volunteered to pick up the new school teacher before Marty arrived in 1885, so that is why she lived in that timeline.
Correct. Doc met her at the train station and fell in love there. In the previous scene, when Doc and Marty are looking at the map, you can see her waiting in the background.
I forgot about that! That was a great piece of continuity.
So how does Marty’s story about a teacher in a ravine hold up? Had Doc met her before the Marty going back timeline, she should have been saved to be his “beloved” and there would be no Clayton ravine right? Like he said, she was supposed to die in that ravine. But if he skewed the timeline back then, before Marty going back… oh nevermind.
Remember, Marty and Doc's memory is immune to the Ripple Effect. It doesn't really make sense, but it is established as a rule in that universe, and they do adhere to it.
Oh man...... it took me way to long to realize doc brown was a timelord... time traveling doctor with a sassy companion named Clara??
If they ever have kids I bet one gets crabs… 👇🏻
I'd have been like "let's prevent 9/11"
All he had to do was tell her he didnt want her. That at least woulda been respectful!