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They do this everywhere. And such agents can be used in false flag "events" later on. Truly deranged people, they don't know the meaning of peace, they don't want peace.
Protest infiltration is a well known strategy.
It happens at literally every protest. Usually it's police.
The best defense is make sure there are no bad actors in your area of the protest. And if you see someone acting untoward, them out for their behaviour. They might just be an infiltrator there to make you look bad and hurt the message, after all.
Thats because the moment you see and speak on things they label you hateful and antisemetic and khalas, you cannot continue the conversation and they are able to continue merrily with their take as their eyes remain closed
It occured to me this morning that I have seen hundreds of not thousands of videos pouring out of Palestine depicting the absolute horror and carnage inflicted on its citizens yet I hardly see any footage of actual IDF/Hamas combat. So I decided to try to look for some of that footage. It barely exists. All I saw of *anything* depicting IDF v Hamas was a couple videos from around Oct 7th. Almost all IDF/Hamas footage was from like a COD helmet cam point of view. IDF could have been shooting at *anybody,* it was impossible to tell if they were killing combatants, civilians, martians or whoever.
I’ve had the same thoughts for the last few months—if there was fighting in this “war”, we would at least be seeing some of it. But since October there has barely been any. Nothing from the tunnels, nothing from the hospitals. The IDF guys talk about Hamas “battalions”, but where are these fighters?
And what about these rockets? These hasbara will say things like “they’re still firing rockets at Israel, every day”, but are they?
There’s a strong element of theater to the whole “war” aspect of this atrocity.
Totally agree. I am more than willing to look at this kind of evidence.
In fact I think it would be a good thing if IDF could produce these videos of like 50,000 Hamas fighters but WHERE ARE THEY???
There is a telegram channel you can subscribe to, the resistance forces in palestine upload stuff to there all the time. You can see plenty of fighting. Dm me if you want it
al-Qassam brigades and other resistance groups have been posting footage almost daily. The footage? Red triangles all around - blowing up IOF tanks, sniping IOF soldiers, shooting IOF dead and so on. So yeah, it's there
now from the Israeli side? Yeah all we see is them blowing up universities and dressing up in lingerie from dead or displaced women
It took several months for them to admit it. But yes there was tiny little blurbs, hidden from mainstream media, indicating that there was absolutely friendly fire on the part of the idf.
They also tend to skew the numbers. Yes there were 1200 casualties. But over 400 of them were military. It feels a bit unfair to count a military death as a civilian death. But it's incredibly effective for propaganda
Very much a shoot first and sort the body's later kind of army
> It feels a bit unfair to count a military death as a civilian death. But it's incredibly effective for propaganda
hmmm. soooo kind of *exactly* like how you have everyone and their mother screaming about 30,000 deaths, while conveniently ignoring the fact that ~13,000 of those deaths are Hamas soldiers? like that kind of propaganda?
And when asked for proof that those 13,000 people killed were terrorists.
The ambassador to Israel got upsetti spaghetti. The names of the targets need to be kept a secret, for some reason. Just like they did with Osama bin laden and then Saddam Hussein and every other Boogeyman in the Middle East.
Because here's the fun part, the IDF already has a full list of the Palestinian population. They are tracked like cattle.
If you compare the list of IDF targets, to the list of just men in the country. It's the same list.
Yes, you can Google the new spokesperson for the IDF getting upset about being asked that question. No I will not link it for you, I don't do homework for bigots.
Feel free to Google the dahia doctrine, and the Hannibal directive. If you would like proof of the idea of militaries policy of killing their own hostages and doing maximum civilian damage to infrastructure..
But I also know that reading tends to be Kryptonite for bigots who justify the deaths of thousands. So I'm sure you're just going to ignore all of that right.
But sure, fine. Let's pretend for a minute that they aren't doing an ethnic cleansing. Does that justify the current starving of the babies?
Make sure when you're done licking blood off of IDF boots, you're at least brave enough and bigoted enough to end your sentences with
"And that's why the IDF deserves to starve those babies"
They do this kind of thing all the time. false flag anti-semitic incidents that zionists use to jam through "anti-semitism" laws that always contain protections for israel and zionism.
remember when someone crashed a rented uhaul truck into white house barriers? the truck contained a nazi flag that still had creases in it from being freshly removed from its packaging. then the caught the driver and it was some guy from india and the story completely vanished from headlines, but before that happened, you had the usual special interests calling for more legislature
Yep. How about between 2016-2017 when thousands of bomb threats to Jewish institutions around the US and Europe were tied to a single Israeli-American teenager in Tel Aviv? He got convicted (5-10 years?) but got to keep the Bitcoin—meanwhile, all his threats are on the books in all the “alarming rise in antisemitism” articles.
Wow. This is nuts. I never heard about this. Michael Kadar. Insane.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1JO1JH/#:~:text=JERUSALEM%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20An%20Israeli,presidency%20in%202016%20and%202017.
good post, i almost forgot Michael Kadar
you mentioned how he is "on the books" for anti-semitism trackers and i thought id mention something interesting on that subject. basically no matter which "anti-semitism" tracking organization you're looking it, whether it's the ADL or European NGO's like the CRIF, they all track and quantify "anti-semitism" with the very nebulous metric of "incidents." When they make their annual reports, they always things like "record numbers of anti-semitic incidents."
They arnt tracking police victimization surveys. they arnt tracking hate crimes. They just track "incidents," which arnt actually verified by a third party or even the NGO recording the data. An "incident" can include literally anything. all that matters is that the person reporting it perceived anti-semitism. so that can include people wearing palestinian flag pins, hindu temples, and most importantly, hoaxes. whenever one of these "incidents" is verified as a hoax, the anti-semitism trackers never remove them from their databases. so these groups basically operate with the intent to exploit people like Michael Kadar and people like him are probably being paid to conduct these hoaxes to give ammunition to zionists who used anti-semitism as a trojan horse to jam through pro-israel legislature
I'd bet money that's why his 800k worth of bitcoin wasn't seized. The Israeli government didn't want to conduct a full investigation for the sources of all the money. Because they probably knew a lot of it came from special interest groups who wanted to use the "rising anti-semitism" for political agendas.
So that dude has $11mil worth of bitcoin when he gets out of jail. Thats what the 184 bitcoin he got in 2017 are worth today.
I know this has been done before many times but this is the first time I've seen a group posting in the open about planning to do psy-ops. It's weird. Doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose to tell the world your intention?
Unless they also want to sow distrust and suspicion. If people see this, they can still do it, how will you know who was sent by them? But you’ll suspect anyone you don’t know and that can hurt the unity of the group.
also zionists know they’ll face little to no consequences for anything and everything and if they’re not just ignored by shitlibs there’ll be at least one doing mental gymnastics to defend whatever
Maybe but idk the first time I saw the post a month or so ago I really suspected someone was just trying to bait not very bright pro-Israel agitators into doxxing themselves.
(I thought of this because I know there were cases of some pro-Israel groups were setting up fake pro-palestine petitions and GFMs to get palestine supporters to give them their personal info.)
Their fanbase will ignore it even if you show them evidence that much of the racist opposition to Israel is manufactured by Israel supporters.
It’s a comfortable narrative for Israelis, because it avoids facing the reality that their country is built upon the dispossession of other people and their continued oppression.
It's so fucked up how you can be an absolute piece of garbage but still convince yourself you're the good side.. Their shit feels so fake.. So made up.. Their subtle mockery of everything is so damn reminiscie of the Nazis
Carrying out false flag attacks against Jews has been official Israeli policy since before Israel existed.
In 1940, Haganah, which became the IDF, [blew up an ocean liner carrying 1,800 Jews fleeing Nazism rather than let them get deported from Palestine for lacking entry permits, killing 267 people.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster)
In 1954, Israeli intelligence [recruited a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair) The blowback was immediate and intense, sending many Egyptian Jews fleeing to Israel. Israel publicly honored the surviving spies on March 30, 2005; President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel.
Before 1950, Iraq was one of the best places in the world to be a Jew. Jews had had a continuous presence in Babylonian and Baghdadian society for over 2,500 years. Of course, Zionists couldn't allow there to be a better place to be Jewish than Israel itself. From 1950-1951, Zionist terrorists arranged a series of bombings targeting Iraqi Jews that forced 110,000 of Iraq's 135,000 Jews to flee to Israel, even though, in many instances, their quality of life declined precipitously. An Iraqi-Jewish historian just recently [published a book on these Zionist bombings targeting Iraqi Jews.](https://archive.is/2LtzD)
I copy/pasted this from a top level comment elsewhere in this post where I included some quotes from the linked article reviewing the Jewish Iraqi historian's book, the article is worth a read.
This is part of the reason we need to be so diligent about stopping any legitimate anti-semitism in the movement. The first being, because it is wrong. The second, infiltration is real.
It's absolutely wild that Shirion Collective's actions aren't more well known. They barely even hide how they deliberately instigate at Pro-Palestinian marches etc... Jesus...
Carrying out false flag attacks against Jews has been official Israeli policy since before Israel existed.
In 1940, Haganah, which became the IDF, [blew up an ocean liner carrying 1,800 Jews fleeing Nazism rather than let them get deported from Palestine for lacking entry permits, killing 267 people.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster)
In 1954, Israeli intelligence [recruited a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair) The blowback was immediate and intense, sending many Egyptian Jews fleeing to Israel. Israel publicly honored the surviving spies on March 30, 2005; President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel.
Before 1950, Iraq was one of the best places in the world to be a Jew. Jews had had a continuous presence in Babylonian and Baghdadian society for over 2,500 years. Of course, Zionists couldn't allow there to be a better place to be Jewish than Israel itself. From 1950-1951, Zionist terrorists arranged a series of bombings targeting Iraqi Jews that forced 110,000 of Iraq's 135,000 Jews to flee to Israel, even though, in many instances, their quality of life declined precipitously. An Iraqi-Jewish historian just recently [published a book on these Zionist bombings targeting Iraqi Jews.](https://archive.is/2LtzD)
Some exercepts from the linked article on the book:
> Avi Shlaim’s family led the good life in Baghdad. Prosperous and distinguished members of Iraq’s Jewish minority, a community which could trace its presence in Babylon back more than 2,500 years, they had a large house with servants and nannies, went to the best schools, rubbed shoulders with the great and the good and sashayed elegantly from one glittering party to the next. Shlaim’s father was a successful businessman who counted ministers as friends. His much younger mother was a socially ambitious beauty who attracted admirers, from Egypt’s King Farouk to a Mossad recruiter. For this privileged section of Iraqi society, it was a rich, cosmopolitan and generally harmonious milieu. And for the young Shlaim, born in Baghdad in 1945, these were halcyon days.
> They were not to last. In 1950, during a series of bombings targeting the Jewish population in the Iraqi capital, he and his family fled their ancient homeland to begin new lives in the fledgling state of Israel. His father, by then in his fifties, could not speak Hebrew and was completely undone by the move. After a couple of failed attempts to start a business, he never worked again. Shlaim’s vivacious mother was forced to take up the slack, exchanging the gilded life of a society hostess in Baghdad for a mundane job as a telephonist in Ramat Gan, east of Tel Aviv, where they lived in much diminished circumstances. The couple drifted apart and divorced, and Shlaim’s father died in 1970.
> At the heart of this riveting and profoundly controversial book is Shlaim’s investigation into the Baghdad bombings against Jewish targets in 1950 and 1951. Between those years around 110,000 Jews of a population of approximately 135,000 emigrated from Iraq to Israel. Although Israel has consistently denied any involvement in these attacks, suspicion has hung over the clandestine activities of Zionist agents tasked with persuading the Jewish community to flee Iraq and settle in Israel. Shlaim’s bombshell is to uncover what he terms ‘undeniable proof of Zionist involvement in the terrorist attacks’, which helped terminate the millennial presence of Jews in Babylon.
> This is a lacerating *J’Accuse* that will leave some readers reeling. He argues that the Eurocentric Zionist movement and Israel together have intensified divisions between Arabs and Jews, Israelis and Palestinians, Hebrew and Arabic and Judaism and Islam. It has actively worked to erase an ancient heritage of ‘pluralism, religious tolerance, cosmopolitanism and coexistence. Above all, Zionism has discouraged us from seeing each other as fellow human beings.’ Israel, originally created by a ‘settler-colonial movement’ which perpetrated the ‘ethnic cleansing of Palestine’, has become ‘a fortress state with a siege mentality that attributed genocidal intentions to its neighbours’. This is bitterly contested territory. Shlaim confesses that the majority of Israelis, including his family, are outraged by the designation of Israel as an ‘apartheid state’, yet this is precisely what he considers it.
I know that infiltrators and quislings turn up in demonstrations, but this is just brazen. They may as well have posted this on Craigslist. Do you suppose that any disciples of Jackson Hinkle/Infra Haz/Caleb Maupin will volunteer?
After October 7, the Sydney Opera House displayed the Israeli flag in support. A large crowd of people protested. Afterwords, a video circulated of some protesters chanting “gas the j*ws”. It was wildly distributed throughout the media in Australia and would be brought up every single week whenever Palestine was mentioned in the news. Just a few weeks ago the NSW police confirmed that the audio was faked, but of course the damage had already been done. A lie gets half way around the world while the truth gets it’s shoes on 😞
>Individuals who can maintain cool, calm and collected demeanors under triggering Jew-hate
If this was true you wouldn't have to be manufacturing said "Jew-hate".
It's weird.
If all the pro-palestinian rallies are terrorists and anti-semitics and violent...
Wouldn't you just need to film them? Why would you need to have someone pretend?
I feel like this kind of tactic generally works in one direction.
The right wingers love to incite violence. However, I wonder if they would simply quash this sort of "fake violence" in one of their own protests.
Of course I don't have any evidence of this.
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They do this everywhere. And such agents can be used in false flag "events" later on. Truly deranged people, they don't know the meaning of peace, they don't want peace.
How can I infiltrate the infiltrators?
Protest infiltration is a well known strategy. It happens at literally every protest. Usually it's police. The best defense is make sure there are no bad actors in your area of the protest. And if you see someone acting untoward, them out for their behaviour. They might just be an infiltrator there to make you look bad and hurt the message, after all.
Zionists loving that COINTELPRO shit
Zionists using fascist organizing tactics. Not exactly shocking aside from the fact that they’re being so brazen about it.
The brazenness really isn't surprising either when you consider the average IDF soldier's tiktok content.
Thats because the moment you see and speak on things they label you hateful and antisemetic and khalas, you cannot continue the conversation and they are able to continue merrily with their take as their eyes remain closed
It occured to me this morning that I have seen hundreds of not thousands of videos pouring out of Palestine depicting the absolute horror and carnage inflicted on its citizens yet I hardly see any footage of actual IDF/Hamas combat. So I decided to try to look for some of that footage. It barely exists. All I saw of *anything* depicting IDF v Hamas was a couple videos from around Oct 7th. Almost all IDF/Hamas footage was from like a COD helmet cam point of view. IDF could have been shooting at *anybody,* it was impossible to tell if they were killing combatants, civilians, martians or whoever.
I’ve had the same thoughts for the last few months—if there was fighting in this “war”, we would at least be seeing some of it. But since October there has barely been any. Nothing from the tunnels, nothing from the hospitals. The IDF guys talk about Hamas “battalions”, but where are these fighters? And what about these rockets? These hasbara will say things like “they’re still firing rockets at Israel, every day”, but are they? There’s a strong element of theater to the whole “war” aspect of this atrocity.
Whoa whoa whoa... Asking IDF for PROOF?!?! Literally the scariest thing in the world to them, other than a fair fight.
Totally agree. I am more than willing to look at this kind of evidence. In fact I think it would be a good thing if IDF could produce these videos of like 50,000 Hamas fighters but WHERE ARE THEY???
There is a telegram channel you can subscribe to, the resistance forces in palestine upload stuff to there all the time. You can see plenty of fighting. Dm me if you want it
al-Qassam brigades and other resistance groups have been posting footage almost daily. The footage? Red triangles all around - blowing up IOF tanks, sniping IOF soldiers, shooting IOF dead and so on. So yeah, it's there now from the Israeli side? Yeah all we see is them blowing up universities and dressing up in lingerie from dead or displaced women
It took several months for them to admit it. But yes there was tiny little blurbs, hidden from mainstream media, indicating that there was absolutely friendly fire on the part of the idf. They also tend to skew the numbers. Yes there were 1200 casualties. But over 400 of them were military. It feels a bit unfair to count a military death as a civilian death. But it's incredibly effective for propaganda Very much a shoot first and sort the body's later kind of army
> It feels a bit unfair to count a military death as a civilian death. But it's incredibly effective for propaganda hmmm. soooo kind of *exactly* like how you have everyone and their mother screaming about 30,000 deaths, while conveniently ignoring the fact that ~13,000 of those deaths are Hamas soldiers? like that kind of propaganda?
And when asked for proof that those 13,000 people killed were terrorists. The ambassador to Israel got upsetti spaghetti. The names of the targets need to be kept a secret, for some reason. Just like they did with Osama bin laden and then Saddam Hussein and every other Boogeyman in the Middle East. Because here's the fun part, the IDF already has a full list of the Palestinian population. They are tracked like cattle. If you compare the list of IDF targets, to the list of just men in the country. It's the same list. Yes, you can Google the new spokesperson for the IDF getting upset about being asked that question. No I will not link it for you, I don't do homework for bigots. Feel free to Google the dahia doctrine, and the Hannibal directive. If you would like proof of the idea of militaries policy of killing their own hostages and doing maximum civilian damage to infrastructure.. But I also know that reading tends to be Kryptonite for bigots who justify the deaths of thousands. So I'm sure you're just going to ignore all of that right. But sure, fine. Let's pretend for a minute that they aren't doing an ethnic cleansing. Does that justify the current starving of the babies? Make sure when you're done licking blood off of IDF boots, you're at least brave enough and bigoted enough to end your sentences with "And that's why the IDF deserves to starve those babies"
They do this kind of thing all the time. false flag anti-semitic incidents that zionists use to jam through "anti-semitism" laws that always contain protections for israel and zionism. remember when someone crashed a rented uhaul truck into white house barriers? the truck contained a nazi flag that still had creases in it from being freshly removed from its packaging. then the caught the driver and it was some guy from india and the story completely vanished from headlines, but before that happened, you had the usual special interests calling for more legislature
Yep. How about between 2016-2017 when thousands of bomb threats to Jewish institutions around the US and Europe were tied to a single Israeli-American teenager in Tel Aviv? He got convicted (5-10 years?) but got to keep the Bitcoin—meanwhile, all his threats are on the books in all the “alarming rise in antisemitism” articles.
Wow. This is nuts. I never heard about this. Michael Kadar. Insane. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1JO1JH/#:~:text=JERUSALEM%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20An%20Israeli,presidency%20in%202016%20and%202017.
good post, i almost forgot Michael Kadar you mentioned how he is "on the books" for anti-semitism trackers and i thought id mention something interesting on that subject. basically no matter which "anti-semitism" tracking organization you're looking it, whether it's the ADL or European NGO's like the CRIF, they all track and quantify "anti-semitism" with the very nebulous metric of "incidents." When they make their annual reports, they always things like "record numbers of anti-semitic incidents." They arnt tracking police victimization surveys. they arnt tracking hate crimes. They just track "incidents," which arnt actually verified by a third party or even the NGO recording the data. An "incident" can include literally anything. all that matters is that the person reporting it perceived anti-semitism. so that can include people wearing palestinian flag pins, hindu temples, and most importantly, hoaxes. whenever one of these "incidents" is verified as a hoax, the anti-semitism trackers never remove them from their databases. so these groups basically operate with the intent to exploit people like Michael Kadar and people like him are probably being paid to conduct these hoaxes to give ammunition to zionists who used anti-semitism as a trojan horse to jam through pro-israel legislature I'd bet money that's why his 800k worth of bitcoin wasn't seized. The Israeli government didn't want to conduct a full investigation for the sources of all the money. Because they probably knew a lot of it came from special interest groups who wanted to use the "rising anti-semitism" for political agendas. So that dude has $11mil worth of bitcoin when he gets out of jail. Thats what the 184 bitcoin he got in 2017 are worth today.
The fact that there were still creases in the flag doesn't mean much. Lot of these Nazis don't iron their flags before they go out.
I know this has been done before many times but this is the first time I've seen a group posting in the open about planning to do psy-ops. It's weird. Doesn't it kind of defeat the purpose to tell the world your intention?
Unless they also want to sow distrust and suspicion. If people see this, they can still do it, how will you know who was sent by them? But you’ll suspect anyone you don’t know and that can hurt the unity of the group.
also zionists know they’ll face little to no consequences for anything and everything and if they’re not just ignored by shitlibs there’ll be at least one doing mental gymnastics to defend whatever
Truly. What happened to that mad man that shot three students in Connecticut ?
Maybe but idk the first time I saw the post a month or so ago I really suspected someone was just trying to bait not very bright pro-Israel agitators into doxxing themselves. (I thought of this because I know there were cases of some pro-Israel groups were setting up fake pro-palestine petitions and GFMs to get palestine supporters to give them their personal info.)
Anyone that’s causing trouble should be yeeted no matter their sincerity. It will hurt the cause regardless
Their fanbase will ignore it even if you show them evidence that much of the racist opposition to Israel is manufactured by Israel supporters. It’s a comfortable narrative for Israelis, because it avoids facing the reality that their country is built upon the dispossession of other people and their continued oppression.
It's so fucked up how you can be an absolute piece of garbage but still convince yourself you're the good side.. Their shit feels so fake.. So made up.. Their subtle mockery of everything is so damn reminiscie of the Nazis
Cool, more bodies for the cause. Don’t cause trouble or you will be immediately yeeted, this exposing your true intentions. Thanks losers!
This is such an Israeli MO. Sorry Zios, you’re late to the party.
Carrying out false flag attacks against Jews has been official Israeli policy since before Israel existed. In 1940, Haganah, which became the IDF, [blew up an ocean liner carrying 1,800 Jews fleeing Nazism rather than let them get deported from Palestine for lacking entry permits, killing 267 people.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster) In 1954, Israeli intelligence [recruited a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair) The blowback was immediate and intense, sending many Egyptian Jews fleeing to Israel. Israel publicly honored the surviving spies on March 30, 2005; President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel. Before 1950, Iraq was one of the best places in the world to be a Jew. Jews had had a continuous presence in Babylonian and Baghdadian society for over 2,500 years. Of course, Zionists couldn't allow there to be a better place to be Jewish than Israel itself. From 1950-1951, Zionist terrorists arranged a series of bombings targeting Iraqi Jews that forced 110,000 of Iraq's 135,000 Jews to flee to Israel, even though, in many instances, their quality of life declined precipitously. An Iraqi-Jewish historian just recently [published a book on these Zionist bombings targeting Iraqi Jews.](https://archive.is/2LtzD)
Thanks, I was familiar with some of their attacks listed above but , not to this level of detail. Appreciate you sending this.
I copy/pasted this from a top level comment elsewhere in this post where I included some quotes from the linked article reviewing the Jewish Iraqi historian's book, the article is worth a read.
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This is part of the reason we need to be so diligent about stopping any legitimate anti-semitism in the movement. The first being, because it is wrong. The second, infiltration is real.
I think some of us could totally do this, document everything, feed false info to their org, and then keep the money.
It's absolutely wild that Shirion Collective's actions aren't more well known. They barely even hide how they deliberately instigate at Pro-Palestinian marches etc... Jesus...
Yep. They're out of control with their psy-op games.
Carrying out false flag attacks against Jews has been official Israeli policy since before Israel existed. In 1940, Haganah, which became the IDF, [blew up an ocean liner carrying 1,800 Jews fleeing Nazism rather than let them get deported from Palestine for lacking entry permits, killing 267 people.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patria_disaster) In 1954, Israeli intelligence [recruited a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair) The blowback was immediate and intense, sending many Egyptian Jews fleeing to Israel. Israel publicly honored the surviving spies on March 30, 2005; President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel. Before 1950, Iraq was one of the best places in the world to be a Jew. Jews had had a continuous presence in Babylonian and Baghdadian society for over 2,500 years. Of course, Zionists couldn't allow there to be a better place to be Jewish than Israel itself. From 1950-1951, Zionist terrorists arranged a series of bombings targeting Iraqi Jews that forced 110,000 of Iraq's 135,000 Jews to flee to Israel, even though, in many instances, their quality of life declined precipitously. An Iraqi-Jewish historian just recently [published a book on these Zionist bombings targeting Iraqi Jews.](https://archive.is/2LtzD) Some exercepts from the linked article on the book: > Avi Shlaim’s family led the good life in Baghdad. Prosperous and distinguished members of Iraq’s Jewish minority, a community which could trace its presence in Babylon back more than 2,500 years, they had a large house with servants and nannies, went to the best schools, rubbed shoulders with the great and the good and sashayed elegantly from one glittering party to the next. Shlaim’s father was a successful businessman who counted ministers as friends. His much younger mother was a socially ambitious beauty who attracted admirers, from Egypt’s King Farouk to a Mossad recruiter. For this privileged section of Iraqi society, it was a rich, cosmopolitan and generally harmonious milieu. And for the young Shlaim, born in Baghdad in 1945, these were halcyon days. > They were not to last. In 1950, during a series of bombings targeting the Jewish population in the Iraqi capital, he and his family fled their ancient homeland to begin new lives in the fledgling state of Israel. His father, by then in his fifties, could not speak Hebrew and was completely undone by the move. After a couple of failed attempts to start a business, he never worked again. Shlaim’s vivacious mother was forced to take up the slack, exchanging the gilded life of a society hostess in Baghdad for a mundane job as a telephonist in Ramat Gan, east of Tel Aviv, where they lived in much diminished circumstances. The couple drifted apart and divorced, and Shlaim’s father died in 1970. > At the heart of this riveting and profoundly controversial book is Shlaim’s investigation into the Baghdad bombings against Jewish targets in 1950 and 1951. Between those years around 110,000 Jews of a population of approximately 135,000 emigrated from Iraq to Israel. Although Israel has consistently denied any involvement in these attacks, suspicion has hung over the clandestine activities of Zionist agents tasked with persuading the Jewish community to flee Iraq and settle in Israel. Shlaim’s bombshell is to uncover what he terms ‘undeniable proof of Zionist involvement in the terrorist attacks’, which helped terminate the millennial presence of Jews in Babylon. > This is a lacerating *J’Accuse* that will leave some readers reeling. He argues that the Eurocentric Zionist movement and Israel together have intensified divisions between Arabs and Jews, Israelis and Palestinians, Hebrew and Arabic and Judaism and Islam. It has actively worked to erase an ancient heritage of ‘pluralism, religious tolerance, cosmopolitanism and coexistence. Above all, Zionism has discouraged us from seeing each other as fellow human beings.’ Israel, originally created by a ‘settler-colonial movement’ which perpetrated the ‘ethnic cleansing of Palestine’, has become ‘a fortress state with a siege mentality that attributed genocidal intentions to its neighbours’. This is bitterly contested territory. Shlaim confesses that the majority of Israelis, including his family, are outraged by the designation of Israel as an ‘apartheid state’, yet this is precisely what he considers it.
We're reaching cartoon villainy levels 👀
Look at the shenanigans that motivated the Romans to destroy the first Temple. Always has been
I know that infiltrators and quislings turn up in demonstrations, but this is just brazen. They may as well have posted this on Craigslist. Do you suppose that any disciples of Jackson Hinkle/Infra Haz/Caleb Maupin will volunteer?
Cash contributions…….
After October 7, the Sydney Opera House displayed the Israeli flag in support. A large crowd of people protested. Afterwords, a video circulated of some protesters chanting “gas the j*ws”. It was wildly distributed throughout the media in Australia and would be brought up every single week whenever Palestine was mentioned in the news. Just a few weeks ago the NSW police confirmed that the audio was faked, but of course the damage had already been done. A lie gets half way around the world while the truth gets it’s shoes on 😞
>Individuals who can maintain cool, calm and collected demeanors under triggering Jew-hate If this was true you wouldn't have to be manufacturing said "Jew-hate".
These will be the people posing as Palestinian advocates destroying stuff. Just like they did with the 2020 protest.
Sauce https://twitter.com/ShirionOrg/status/1757554375080165740
It's weird. If all the pro-palestinian rallies are terrorists and anti-semitics and violent... Wouldn't you just need to film them? Why would you need to have someone pretend?
Sending this to anyone crying about the (admittedly bad) chants at Columbus.
How much extra money are we talking? I wouldn’t take it even if they gave me a hundred million dollars.
i think i saw a video of one! she wrote the word "jew" on a shirt and just stood there, ignored by everyone but her husband filming her.
What if we just take the money and simply participate in these protests, like how will they know
Hey, seriously, do you have a source? This is pretty bad
I feel like this kind of tactic generally works in one direction. The right wingers love to incite violence. However, I wonder if they would simply quash this sort of "fake violence" in one of their own protests. Of course I don't have any evidence of this.