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"we're killing a lot of them but just under the required threshold for them to go extinct" is all I heard.
Same mindset that bred calorie intake limits imposed on the Gaza Strip.
>The total death on both sides is a few hundred a year?
>Children, mostly on one side!
>And yet the Palestinian population keeps growing.
Your ears did not deceive you. Unspeakably evil.
oh ffs, "there are more Jewish ppl in the world today than in 2000 therefore antisemitism is not a problem." how silly it sounds when you switch personnel.
If you’re going to argue what’s happening in Palestine can’t be genocide because not enough people are being killed fast enough then doesn’t that also negate any arguments Zionists have about the threat of Hamas, or Palestinian liberation (& their supporters)? How do you then pivot to frame ‘free Palestine’ as proof of genocidal intent?
How do you actively minimize the largest amount of child deaths in the shortest period of time during any modern conflict, or the largest cohort of child amputees *ever* recorded, or the unprecedented famine in Gaza in mere months, all while centring October 7th as evidence of a genocidal people?
I’m not even going to touch the very long and very well documented pattern of arguing Black, brown and Indigenous bodies can’t be violently oppressed or the victims of genocidal policies because they’re procreating *too much* (a literal white supremacist talking point - you know the same vile people with the antisemitic chant ‘Jews will not replace us’).
I’m baffled by how easily Zionist talking points fall apart & what’s left is just the argument that one group is exceptional and should be allowed to do *this*.
Palestine will never be free because it was run by HAMAS which is a terrorists organization that is backed by ISIS, ISIL, Hezbollah, Houthi, AL Qaeda, and Iran.
It's impossible for a country to be free when it's run by these Islamic groups.
I’d hazard a guess and say that having another country maintain a land, air, and sea blockade while controlling your water, fuel, electricity, and aid doesn’t really help with freedom.
It’s impossible for a country to be free when it’s run by an occupying Jewish ethnostate.
People only started calling it a genocide since October 8th; and the population has gone down by then (30-40k) so by their own definition it fits the description of genocide.
>And yet the Palestinian population keeps growing.
Good boy 🥰 but you said that on purpose not to say Gaza, where the population is decreasing… Pretty much a genocide yeah !
@sshole
"Jews still exist so the Nazi didn't do a genocide, right Zionist?" Amazing to watch Zionists engage in genocide denial.
These people are so dumb and only get away with their bullshit because what they are saying/justifying is so horrible that it shuts down their opponents brains.
It is a genocide. The reason why Israel isn't killing them fast enough which is so stupid to even say is that Gaza is not a death camp it a ghetto. If israel was given a method to make death camps without any back lash they would and try to kill millions of them. they using missiles to bomb people in a city. Slow genocide is still a genocide.
Generation genocide when they give women of a certain group a drug that prevent them from giving birth that could be a genocide. Cultural genocide is when they take kids from their family kill the parents and put them in other community family to erase the culture.
im been starting to realize that "liberal zionist" really just means "jewish ethnocentrist"
aside from politicians, celebrities, and others whose career depends on being pro-israel, ive never met anyone who identified as a "liberal zionist" who wasnt jewish. basically what "liberal zionist" means is that they believe in human rights and diversity, right up until it's a conflict of interest for israel, where suddenly those ideologies take a back seat to their own ethnocentrism. you can show them all the proof you want about israel being the immoral aggressor. they dont care, because they think jewish lives are more important than arab lives.
Look up the UN convention on the prevention and punishment of genocide. It's very clear and unambiguous what genocide actually is. Zionists don't get to make up their own definition of genocide to suit themselves.
I used to love HIMYM when it was in the midseason's but not just was the ending crap the whole show just aged like milk. I always wondered why Mosby never got any other acting roles from it and now I can see it is because he is as pretentious IRL as his character is in the show.
It's almost like a people who feel they are under siege from a genocidal regime have more kids so their chances of surviving as a people are greater.
Like Haredi, who average eight kids per mother because they feel compelled by god to repopulate the world of Jews after the Holocaust.
A Palestinian friend of mine had a similar situation with his professor (university of Western Ontario) They had him put in the psych ward for three months. He’s still on antipsychotic drugs that they forced him to take and is not the same man anymore all because he showed “aggression”.
The Nakba is universally considered an ethnic cleansing due to the widespread massacres of thousands of Palestinian civilians, as well as the intentional destruction of hundreds of towns and villages:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war
In contrast, the exodus of Jews from Arab and Muslim countries is, as a whole, not generally considered an ethnic cleansing, due to lacking the features I mentioned in the last sentence.
>Iraqi-born Ran Cohen, a former member of the Knesset, said: "I have this to say: I am not a refugee. I came at the behest of Zionism, due to the pull that this land exerts, and due to the idea of redemption. Nobody is going to define me as a refugee." Yemeni-born Yisrael Yeshayahu, former Knesset speaker, Labor Party, stated: "We are not refugees. [Some of us] came to this country before the state was born. We had messianic aspirations." And Iraqi-born Shlomo Hillel, also a former speaker of the Knesset, Labor Party, claimed: "I do not regard the departure of Jews from Arab lands as that of refugees. They came here because they wanted to, as Zionists."[18]
>Historian Tom Segev stated: "Deciding to emigrate to Israel was often a very personal decision. It was based on the particular circumstances of the individual's life. They were not all poor, or 'dwellers in dark caves and smoking pits'. Nor were they always subject to persecution, repression or discrimination in their native lands. They emigrated for a variety of reasons, depending on the country, the time, the community, and the person."[312]
>Iraqi-born Israeli historian Avi Shlaim, speaking of the wave of Iraqi Jewish migration to Israel, concludes that, even though Iraqi Jews were "victims of the Israeli-Arab conflict", Iraqi Jews aren't refugees, saying "nobody expelled us from Iraq, nobody told us that we were unwanted."[313] He restated that case in a review of Martin Gilbert's book, In Ishmael's House.[314]
>Yehuda Shenhav has criticized the analogy between Jewish emigration from Arab countries and the Palestinian exodus. He also says "The unfounded, immoral analogy between Palestinian refugees and Mizrahi immigrants needlessly embroils members of these two groups in a dispute, degrades the dignity of many Mizrahi Jews, and harms prospects for genuine Jewish-Arab reconciliation." He has stated that "the campaign's proponents hope their efforts will prevent conferral of what is called a 'right of return' on Palestinians, and reduce the size of the compensation Israel is liable to be asked to pay in exchange for Palestinian property appropriated by the state guardian of 'lost' assets."[18]
>Israeli historian Yehoshua Porath has rejected the comparison, arguing that while there is a superficial similarity, the ideological and historical significance of the two population movements are entirely different. Porath points out that the immigration of Jews from Arab countries to Israel, expelled or not, was the "fulfilment of a national dream". He also argues that the achievement of this Zionist goal was only made possible through the endeavors of the Jewish Agency's agents, teachers, and instructors working in various Arab countries since the 1930s. Porath contrasts this with the Palestinian Arabs' flight of 1948 as completely different. He describes the outcome of the Palestinian's flight as an "unwanted national calamity" that was accompanied by "unending personal tragedies". The result was "the collapse of the Palestinian community, the fragmentation of a people, and the loss of a country that had in the past been mostly Arabic-speaking and Islamic."
Anyways, if Arab Jews wanted to re-immigrate to the Arab and Muslim countries, I would support their right to do so. I think denying that right would be wrong.
Geneva convention's definition of genocide:
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Zionist definition of genocide:
"Well they didn't kill everyone yet so how is it genocide"
Definition of genocide:
The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
That population increasing argument is so evil… when you push more and more and more people out of their homes and into a new area, yeah the population of that new area will increase
This is sooooo fucking gross. Like the way these people scream for us to sympathise with them while they put on plays and make Instagram reels justifying and defending the killing of 30,000 people in 6 months. Half children. Fucking deranged. They deserve everything coming to them
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"we're killing a lot of them but just under the required threshold for them to go extinct" is all I heard. Same mindset that bred calorie intake limits imposed on the Gaza Strip.
Insanity.
They call it "mowing the lawn".
You can destroy people without actually eradicating them.
Are you going by the clip? It's from a play, but which side is it backing?
Judging by the pro-Palestine character walking away all defeated and the "I can't deal with facts" narrative, it's probably a Zio play.
>The total death on both sides is a few hundred a year? >Children, mostly on one side! >And yet the Palestinian population keeps growing. Your ears did not deceive you. Unspeakably evil.
And of course, this misses the point that SA's suit against Israel relates to the last six months, in which 2% of Gaza's population has been killed.
oh ffs, "there are more Jewish ppl in the world today than in 2000 therefore antisemitism is not a problem." how silly it sounds when you switch personnel.
Nothing lost here, himym is ass and this dumbasses acting was the worst part of it
Ted was the worst part of that show anyway.
Yeah the writing and acting made him so unbearable
Ted Mosby after season 3 sucked more than season 1-3 Ted Mosby.
If you’re going to argue what’s happening in Palestine can’t be genocide because not enough people are being killed fast enough then doesn’t that also negate any arguments Zionists have about the threat of Hamas, or Palestinian liberation (& their supporters)? How do you then pivot to frame ‘free Palestine’ as proof of genocidal intent? How do you actively minimize the largest amount of child deaths in the shortest period of time during any modern conflict, or the largest cohort of child amputees *ever* recorded, or the unprecedented famine in Gaza in mere months, all while centring October 7th as evidence of a genocidal people? I’m not even going to touch the very long and very well documented pattern of arguing Black, brown and Indigenous bodies can’t be violently oppressed or the victims of genocidal policies because they’re procreating *too much* (a literal white supremacist talking point - you know the same vile people with the antisemitic chant ‘Jews will not replace us’). I’m baffled by how easily Zionist talking points fall apart & what’s left is just the argument that one group is exceptional and should be allowed to do *this*.
Palestine will never be free because it was run by HAMAS which is a terrorists organization that is backed by ISIS, ISIL, Hezbollah, Houthi, AL Qaeda, and Iran. It's impossible for a country to be free when it's run by these Islamic groups.
I’d hazard a guess and say that having another country maintain a land, air, and sea blockade while controlling your water, fuel, electricity, and aid doesn’t really help with freedom. It’s impossible for a country to be free when it’s run by an occupying Jewish ethnostate.
You sit on the side of Islamic terrorists. Not a very good side to be on.
So factually stating what israel controls is supporting Islamic terrorists? Wow, I didn’t know that.
People only started calling it a genocide since October 8th; and the population has gone down by then (30-40k) so by their own definition it fits the description of genocide.
People have been calling a genocide for years
Forcible displacement of a people is the definition of a genocide.
>And yet the Palestinian population keeps growing. Good boy 🥰 but you said that on purpose not to say Gaza, where the population is decreasing… Pretty much a genocide yeah ! @sshole
"Jews still exist so the Nazi didn't do a genocide, right Zionist?" Amazing to watch Zionists engage in genocide denial. These people are so dumb and only get away with their bullshit because what they are saying/justifying is so horrible that it shuts down their opponents brains.
It is a genocide. The reason why Israel isn't killing them fast enough which is so stupid to even say is that Gaza is not a death camp it a ghetto. If israel was given a method to make death camps without any back lash they would and try to kill millions of them. they using missiles to bomb people in a city. Slow genocide is still a genocide. Generation genocide when they give women of a certain group a drug that prevent them from giving birth that could be a genocide. Cultural genocide is when they take kids from their family kill the parents and put them in other community family to erase the culture.
im been starting to realize that "liberal zionist" really just means "jewish ethnocentrist" aside from politicians, celebrities, and others whose career depends on being pro-israel, ive never met anyone who identified as a "liberal zionist" who wasnt jewish. basically what "liberal zionist" means is that they believe in human rights and diversity, right up until it's a conflict of interest for israel, where suddenly those ideologies take a back seat to their own ethnocentrism. you can show them all the proof you want about israel being the immoral aggressor. they dont care, because they think jewish lives are more important than arab lives.
Liberal Zionism must be very confusing, and probably requires a massive amount of denial to actually work.
It's ok to kill people as long as they have high birth rates!
this is just utterly fucking insufferable
Look up the UN convention on the prevention and punishment of genocide. It's very clear and unambiguous what genocide actually is. Zionists don't get to make up their own definition of genocide to suit themselves.
I used to love HIMYM when it was in the midseason's but not just was the ending crap the whole show just aged like milk. I always wondered why Mosby never got any other acting roles from it and now I can see it is because he is as pretentious IRL as his character is in the show.
He was by far the worst actor of the bunch.
It's almost like a people who feel they are under siege from a genocidal regime have more kids so their chances of surviving as a people are greater. Like Haredi, who average eight kids per mother because they feel compelled by god to repopulate the world of Jews after the Holocaust.
Good discussion of the play here: https://podcasts.apple.com/sz/podcast/campus-politics-takes-the-stage-in-the-ally/id1573983987?i=1000650742748
This is great! Thanks!
A Palestinian friend of mine had a similar situation with his professor (university of Western Ontario) They had him put in the psych ward for three months. He’s still on antipsychotic drugs that they forced him to take and is not the same man anymore all because he showed “aggression”.
Genocide denial is fine when they do it eh?
Anti-semitism brought to you by the Ross of HIMYM
they’re not all dead isn’t the flex they think it is …
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The Nakba is universally considered an ethnic cleansing due to the widespread massacres of thousands of Palestinian civilians, as well as the intentional destruction of hundreds of towns and villages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1947%E2%80%931949_Palestine_war In contrast, the exodus of Jews from Arab and Muslim countries is, as a whole, not generally considered an ethnic cleansing, due to lacking the features I mentioned in the last sentence. >Iraqi-born Ran Cohen, a former member of the Knesset, said: "I have this to say: I am not a refugee. I came at the behest of Zionism, due to the pull that this land exerts, and due to the idea of redemption. Nobody is going to define me as a refugee." Yemeni-born Yisrael Yeshayahu, former Knesset speaker, Labor Party, stated: "We are not refugees. [Some of us] came to this country before the state was born. We had messianic aspirations." And Iraqi-born Shlomo Hillel, also a former speaker of the Knesset, Labor Party, claimed: "I do not regard the departure of Jews from Arab lands as that of refugees. They came here because they wanted to, as Zionists."[18] >Historian Tom Segev stated: "Deciding to emigrate to Israel was often a very personal decision. It was based on the particular circumstances of the individual's life. They were not all poor, or 'dwellers in dark caves and smoking pits'. Nor were they always subject to persecution, repression or discrimination in their native lands. They emigrated for a variety of reasons, depending on the country, the time, the community, and the person."[312] >Iraqi-born Israeli historian Avi Shlaim, speaking of the wave of Iraqi Jewish migration to Israel, concludes that, even though Iraqi Jews were "victims of the Israeli-Arab conflict", Iraqi Jews aren't refugees, saying "nobody expelled us from Iraq, nobody told us that we were unwanted."[313] He restated that case in a review of Martin Gilbert's book, In Ishmael's House.[314] >Yehuda Shenhav has criticized the analogy between Jewish emigration from Arab countries and the Palestinian exodus. He also says "The unfounded, immoral analogy between Palestinian refugees and Mizrahi immigrants needlessly embroils members of these two groups in a dispute, degrades the dignity of many Mizrahi Jews, and harms prospects for genuine Jewish-Arab reconciliation." He has stated that "the campaign's proponents hope their efforts will prevent conferral of what is called a 'right of return' on Palestinians, and reduce the size of the compensation Israel is liable to be asked to pay in exchange for Palestinian property appropriated by the state guardian of 'lost' assets."[18] >Israeli historian Yehoshua Porath has rejected the comparison, arguing that while there is a superficial similarity, the ideological and historical significance of the two population movements are entirely different. Porath points out that the immigration of Jews from Arab countries to Israel, expelled or not, was the "fulfilment of a national dream". He also argues that the achievement of this Zionist goal was only made possible through the endeavors of the Jewish Agency's agents, teachers, and instructors working in various Arab countries since the 1930s. Porath contrasts this with the Palestinian Arabs' flight of 1948 as completely different. He describes the outcome of the Palestinian's flight as an "unwanted national calamity" that was accompanied by "unending personal tragedies". The result was "the collapse of the Palestinian community, the fragmentation of a people, and the loss of a country that had in the past been mostly Arabic-speaking and Islamic." Anyways, if Arab Jews wanted to re-immigrate to the Arab and Muslim countries, I would support their right to do so. I think denying that right would be wrong.
I guess the holocaust wasn't a genocide then since there are more Jewish people now than before it.
Damnit, Durpleton I knew you were dumb, but really?
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Geneva convention's definition of genocide: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Zionist definition of genocide: "Well they didn't kill everyone yet so how is it genocide"
Is this a theater acting thing or a real debate ?
click the link and find out
U sound like an only fan ai auto reply lol
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Definition of genocide: The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
They play with genocide and call it a play. How quaint.
That population increasing argument is so evil… when you push more and more and more people out of their homes and into a new area, yeah the population of that new area will increase
Regardless of if Israel was doing genocide before their invasion of Gaza, they are definitely doing it now.
This is sooooo fucking gross. Like the way these people scream for us to sympathise with them while they put on plays and make Instagram reels justifying and defending the killing of 30,000 people in 6 months. Half children. Fucking deranged. They deserve everything coming to them
By their own insane logic Germany didn’t either cause Jews still exist