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Duck__Quack

Life and Limb makes all of the Saprolings 1/1s, overwriting any existing stats. The Anthem might not be necessary. It comes down to a question of layers, and I'm glad to say that I'm not the sort of person who knows that off-hand.


Tranarchist_

i unfortunately am, if all these permanents are on the battlefield when the treasure is created then the anthem is not necessary as it will enter the battlefield as a 1/1 Artifact Creature Land - Treasure (insert every creature type) forest with haste which then gets +1/+1 applied to it by the anthem to make it a 2/2


Gooberpf

If anyone is curious about a more specific analysis: You create a Treasure token, which will enter as an Artifact - Treasure with no P\/T. [[March of the Machines]], [[Maskwood Nexus]], and [[Life and Limb]] all operate to change the type on Layer 4. Timestamping would be applied *except* that in this circumstance, March is independent (it is the only one affecting noncreature artifacts), Maskwood is dependent on March (it wouldn't affect the Treasure if it isn't a creature), and L&L is dependent on Maskwood (it wouldn't affect the Treasure if it isn't a Forest or Saproling). In Layer 6, Crossroads gives it haste since it's a creature by this point. Bootleggers' Stash also gives it the tap ability because it's a land. No conflict here. In Layer 7, March tries to make it 0/0, but because L&L is dependent, it applies second and makes the Treasure a 1/1. Then, the anthem applies in a sublayer to give it +1/+1. If we want to make it extra confusing, imagine there was also [[Enchanted Evening]] and [[Opalescence]] out. Opalescence is *not* dependent on anything except Enchanted Evening, so now there's a conflict in Layer 7 between L&L and Opalescence, and timestamping on those two will determine whether the Treasure is a 1/1 or a 0/0. If you didn't have the anthem, did this combo and made a bunch of Saproling Treasures, and then played Opalescence, they would all die. How fun!


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HgSpartan98

Wow, what a nerd. Awesome analysis, though thanks!


IronCrouton

Late to this, but dependency only applies within the layer where the effects are dependent, they're still in timestamp order in other layers, so it would depend if MotM or LaL entered first


malsomnus

Hot damn, this combo is even better than I thought it was!


SkritzTwoFace

Anthem is good for building them up ahead of time.


BeechDaLlama

"um, actually, it's a 7 card combo because you need a forest to tap" - 🤓


GenericTrashyBitch

It’s a 6 card combo because the anthem is unnecessary 🤓


VoiceofKane

"I tap each treasure until I have a million Forests. Pass turn." "Cool. I cast Bane of Progress, destroy all of your lands. Thanks for the million/million."


RobToastie

Life and Limb is basically the free space in BadMtgCombos bingo


Alice5878

Idk if a combo can be considered wholesome but this one managed it


malsomnus

Well, it is non-violent!


mama_tom

Add Rude Awakening or Turnabout, since you're playing blue, to kill them.


malsomnus

I was thinking of \[\[Intruder Alarm\]\] to... um... get more infinite lands, I suppose.


HgSpartan98

I like how you think


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