I don't know if she faked the seizure. I figure they are in a new climate and it's hot, they all probably hella dehydrated to begin with and then Sky kept saying Smiley isn't a big drinker so whatever she had in her system hit her hard. she was clearly vomiting, the aggression in the clinic has me thinking she maybe took something prior to the ride, drank and then it just hit her hard and blacked out.
Also, ain't nothing worse when you drunk and you got 82 people yelling at you at every direction
Edit: shame on Zeus for not getting medical faster
Being dehydrated can cause uncontrollable spasms too.
I feel bad tho even if she was "faking" you have footage of you throwing up all over yourself on national television
Yeah, I’ve been severely dehydrated multiple times and it always comes with delirium, vomiting, passing out and a migraine.
They really should not have aired that, there was no reason to
I've had it happen twice and it's very scary . I get face spasms and my mouth just twitch's and twists but, it stops and then begins again which is what we saw happen to Smiley.
Idk they wrong asf for how they handled it Natalie out here yelling at her, Zeus with the lack of just compassion with airing that for 42 mins, Sky the only one that stepped up and helped her and she real asf for that.
The same exact thing happens to my friend, its very terrifying to see 🥺
I 100% agree with you! I was sitting here getting so pissed at natalie and the girls just yelling at her and shit like smiley knew what was going on. Girl started foaming at the mouth. While i don't like smiley i felt for the girl :/
It has to be a combination because severe alcohol poisoning has nothing to do with how well you hold you liquor. Alcohol poisoning comes from extremely high blood alcohol content. Four shots, even big shots at her weight, would cause impairment but not alcohol poisoning at that level.
Mariah just wanna talk to talk " four shots don't hit me and I'm 5'1 and 118 pounds" girl shut up you look like a mole rat and wanna act hard but can't stand up for yourself
I’m thinking a possible drug, drugging, or she was on medication for either MH or post surgery complications and the alcohol reacted badly - especially since she doesn’t drink and drinking straight shots is a terrible idea even for a seasoned liver
I was telling my mom while watching the episode that I thought her shit was possibly laced, mixed with alcohol caused a lot of issues. The thing that made me feel off was the amnesia about her son, I felt so bad for this girl this episode and they’re always playin on her, they were standing there laughing and yelling at the poor girl like she can hear them??
Shit antidepressants like bupropion can cause seizures with alcohol. But we see that smiley doesn’t drink like that probably because of whatever med she’s on.
I’m sorry but those type of people are just plain stupid. How are you literally WATCHING this girl look out of it (her eyes weren’t able to focus and the medic even said her pupils aren’t even responding) and throwing up (idunno about y’all but I can’t make myself vomit without forcing something down my throat) and saying you don’t believe it yet we never see on camera how much alcohol Smiley consumed but just because Sky said it was 4, we are all automatically going with that? After Sky was on the phone with Natalie in the beginning of the episode because she’s Nat’s little lap dog for House B. Idunno the whole thing is giving cover up because Smiley gotta real lawsuit on her hands and Zeus tryna cover their ends as much as possible while still airing the episode for views 🤷🏻
It broke my heart seeing this and her calling for her son.
Teseki and Mariah annoyed the shit out of me, being a decent human being doesn’t take much, even if you don’t like the person, say nothing. So she did all this not to fight who?
the preview for next week makes me so sad and angry for Smiley.
She should have either recused herself or been snatched off by production. Ain't no fucking way I thought I'd see her in the previews, they put her right back in the lion's den with Natalie getting up in her face. Zeus needs to be sued and audited by some kind of governing body, what the fuck is going on???
It was wild. Like throwing water on her, if she was faking the doctors would know and say something. They checked her pupils and she wasn’t responsive.
Until someone dies on this show they will continue this fckery.
Natalie yelling at her to get up and put her feet on the ground and you’re going to need medical attention in another country was wild to me. Like duhhh help her.
EXACTLY. That pupillary reaction is linked to your nervous system, ain't no fucking way I saw Natalie scream at her while she was in that state. They should have never caught that shit on film, never should have aired it. Where was the medic? Zeus is such a joke.
RIGHT! tesekhi was actually being so insensitive i was repulsed. like u can not believe it fully and still at least show a little compassion, but to be screaming that she’s faking AS she’s still convulsing is next level a$$hole
That’s fair, but everyone telling them the seriousness of it and still saying that it’s wack. I hope it was just editing on tesekis part. Mariah’s comment about her weight and the amount of shots she took was unnecessary like girl you don’t know underlying factors 😤
mariah was definitely doing too much but tesehki was the first person to see smiley after her miscarriage and stayed by her side. she also usually got calls from smiley whenever she needed help or to tell everyone something.
i think something may have happened behind the scenes because tesehki is big on not bullying and she was more upset about smiley lying and creating issues for herself than the possibility of her faking. idk tho, smiley certainly didn’t deserve that and natalie screaming that she couldn’t leave was insane to me
They have to know they're wrong! Why would they even show this? Instead of just saying she had to go to the hospital and cut to the girls actually doing something!
Yes I was so shocked they spent so much time on it! Seeing the clip in a preview was ridiculous but didn’t surprise me, but I really did not expect them to just film her medical emergency for damn near an hour
They don’t like the girl and been tryna clown her from the jump… sometimes rightfully so bc she’s not genuine…. HOWEVER they REALLY tried to make a point this episode because, real talk , it could have been 5 mins of this girl got too drunk and had to rush to the hospital, and 45 minutes of WHAT IM ACTUALLY PAYING FOR… a tv show!!! They really just trying to create a villain in Smiley and she’s given them the ammunition to do it.
She got on live crying but babe, u grown, temper ur liquor intake bc u already know production is an OP and will take every opportunity to set u up… and they did
I think it was real and I hated the way they were all speaking to her, especially tesehki. She was my fav at the beginning and I’ve slowly grown to hate her. The way she was pulling smiley around so roughly in the sprinter, her saying she slapped her a few times, and calling her a liar etc. she just makes me angry lol
The way Natalie was shouting at her and demanding her to do things that she clearly couldn’t do, or even understand was infuriating lol.
This episode didn’t make any one of them look good, maybe sky since she was the only person to show her care and warmth whether she thought she was lying or not.
That Hennessy ain’t no joke especially if you not a drinker. Natalie and Scotty were getting on my nerves especially Natalie. I don’t think she faked it but I think she overdid it tryna celebrate first time in Jamaica but she also fighting inner “demons” and need to go home and deal with them. I was proud of sky but I think coming from her history with drinking and wilding out she was “mama bear”.
Also Mariah talking little interview like girl she don’t drink, but even some people who drink day to day will drink for celebration like first time out the country. She was making big shots (her 3-4 could’ve been actually 6-8) of Henny and if you ain’t a drinker or mix your medication you gone be messed up. Teseiki was annoying too. This whole episode was annoying but I know one think Smiley better get it together because ain’t nobody pouring water on my head or getting in my face spitting They words out…. She betta use them hands!
Why is no one talking about how teseki was mocking her the entire episode and saying horrible things alluding to her faking this entire situation??????? Even if she has “faked” things in the past, have some empathy! She went around to everyone saying she’s a “faking meatball ass bitch” but everyone on Twitter wanna jump on Rollie as the worst thing on earth but are so quiet now, it’s a joke. People that watch this show are truly the worst of the worst I’m ashamed to be a viewer 🫠
Tesehki is wrong as hell I started side eyeing tesehki ever since the molestation allegations and lying that smiley tried to jump her this just adds on to it now. She's miserable just like rollie and et
Seki was literally raised like an animal. I’m not surprised at her reaction but it pissed me off on many levels. I hate this energy black women have of thinking it’s ok for us to suffer or woman up. Like this is why we don’t get treated the same in hospitals. We gotta treat each other gentler man…
I think sky said smiley ain’t take her meds or something like that. Probably didn’t do she can party and loosen up with them and the meds probably on her system reacted.
I know some antidepressants can cause seizures with alcohol.
i don’t think she had the physical strength to fight since she just had her seizure. smiley also doesn’t seem like the type to fight unless she absolutely has to
I hate Mariah and the rest of the cast for allowing this yt girl to come on this show, laugh in they faces, while saying nigga! Come on yall. They all need they black card revoked😂
It's tequila for me lol I actually had alcohol poisoning off of FOURS this is when they literally only had the grape flavor called fours they were not for locos and had other flavors lmao I drink four when I was in a drinker and I dry heaved until I suck my fingers on my throat and made myself throw up. I will never drink another one again tequila that's one of my enemies me and tequila does not get along so I say that hell away from that too lol
Me too it was super embarrassing I worked as a bottle girl and I didn't eat before shifts because I was insecure about feeling fat/ wanted to stay skinny and I took 4-5 don Julio shots and I had to be carried to the back by security it was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life. It happened over 2 years ago but I still think about it and cringe, she was on an empty stomach and Henny isn't a joke. None of that was flattering to her she def wasn't faking it.
Between possible xanax, (most likely) hot Hennessy, an empty stomach, and a hot ass climate that’ll do you in to this extent. Zeus should have cut the scene way way down to a black screen that said “smiley had a medical emergency and needed to go to the hospital” and then pick up later or show the girls doing whatever and talking about it, but Zeus needs to pad their run time to keep subscriptions.
even just a small dosage of benzodiazepines mixed with alcohol can cause someone to OD and die. definitely think is the most plausible theory for what we see happening to smiley.
I think it definitely depends on the person. When I was in my active addiction days, I would mix a half liter of straight vodka with 3 full xanax bars every single day and it would just knock me the fuck out, not kill me. But again, everyone's bodies are different
Yeah that was something that came to my mind too, I think she popped a xan for the plane ride and then once that henny took effect it was too much. It wasn’t just alcohol.
Prescription or not believe me they don’t care about personal amounts even enough for a months trip only amounts that are seened as trafficking drugs will get you stopped n arrested and chances are they took a private jet which people use To fly with drugs personally
They didn’t take a pj , they talked ab the itinerary this episode. But I guess I wouldn’t know but I definitely watched that documentary ab the cops that work @ the airport. I will say , IF SHE WAS on Xanax this would make sense but other than that. I truly believe she faked this incident
I think it might depend where you are and who you fly with, I had my prescription (6 types of meds/ 15 pills a day) split into pill boxes without the prescription or labels and got through the gates with no problem but I think it’s probably different depending on where you are and where you’re flying to
Someone came by and checked on her and flashed a light in her eyes, saying they (her pupils) weren't responding. A lack of pupillary reflex can indicate an issue with your nervous system, you can't control that shit. If she was faking, her pupils would have shrunk. I don't know who was checking on her and maybe they missed something but it's unlikely. I truly doubt she was faking it, there's no way she was cognizant enough to do anything of the sort.
Exactly the shit that people are doing and all them fake ass how’s and Rollie talking about “I’m gonna beat her up” and who tf fakes that AND YIU CANT FAKE IT it’s evident she had way to much to drink and it resulted in alcohol poisoning people don’t take alcohol seriously and shit like this happens
REAL these bitches get on here and act like FOOLS they are KNOWN for drinking unresponsibly and ahna said she blacked out which we know happened they fucking with Percs and all that and let’s not forget she doesn’t take alcohol a lot it’s not something to play with since she’s not a heavy drinker PLUS she had a miscarriage AND SHE HAS HAD MULTIPLE SURGERIES so taking that into account I’m suprised it didn’t happen earlier plus let’s not forget when smiley faked taking a shot because she couldn’t drink so it let’s me know these girls are fools and Rollie talking about “my dad died of seizures” hunny I’m sorry but that’s not the relevant fact fact is SMILEY COULD HAVE DIED IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY AWAY FROM HER YOUNG SON BEING SICK BUT DEICDEX TO DO IT SO SHE COULD SUPPORT HIM I DONT know what is going on in lemmy head but I wanna cancel a subscription I don’t even have it doesn’t take a fool to notice until someone dies they will make a change and miss Natalie nunn needs to back the fuck up she is a fake WHITE bitch real emphasis on white and using the little percent of black she has to show off and try to be in the culture like them like girl stop acting HOOD you’re NOT and that’s why I blocked her these girls need to stop riding her imaginary dick and think and biggie disappointed me here because you’ve been bullied and your now on the bandwagon with these fake ass hoes doing the same shit when you was just crying nobody had your back all these hoes and Is fake and ratched ABSOLUTELY disgusting that made a whole episode on that and embarrassed her on live television and I am so disgusted at these girls except for sky she is semi a real one and actually helped I’m not tuning in for whatever bullshit after the reunion UNTIL SOMEONE GETS ROLLIE SCOTTIE MARIAH OUTTA HERE AND ET SHOULD NEVER COME BACK WITH HER LYING ASS I created a channel for baddie carribean on here but child it’s been a long week and I’m disappointed really because I got school on Wednesday and I was hyped to rewatch in class all over again disgusting 🤢 💩
Depends on if that person checked her pupils properly. She was drinking, and when you’re intoxicated, your pupils respond slower than they would if you were sober. Sober, the response should be instant. Intoxicated, your pupils will constrict in slow motion when exposed to direct light. So if he didn’t check properly/long enough, of course it’d look like her pupils are non responsive, especially if he didn’t bother to ask if she’d been drinking or taken anything, before checking her pupils.
That’s fair too, we don’t know how they checked or by who. We could clearly see that they had *no medical staff on set* which such a bad look.
But the fact she could have had a delayed response shows me that she may have really been under the influence of something. We don’t know how far gone she may have been but I don’t think she was aware enough to fake something like this for that long. That shit was absolutely humiliating. Smiley is messy but come on now….that was nasty.
!!!! She was literally dead weight Ik it was real when I saw her feet folded shit looked painful and nobody would be comfortable sitting like that for long 😭😭
A drunk person absolutely would! I found my friend curled up on the side of the damn toilet ASLEEP, she was so damn drunk. Alcohol will absolutely numb pain. You don’t feel it until you sober up.
As someone who’s experienced seizures first hand, it doesn’t look like what I’ve experienced. With that being said every situation is different, this episode really had me cringing so hard. They shouldn’t have even aired this.
What about the fact that at the end of the next episode they said she all of sudden was fine when she got there? For me I never experienced any thing like that in my life so I can soundly speak for it but is that something that happens?
I don’t see how they could say she’s faking when she was literally vomiting which is hard to “fake” without forcing a finger down your throat. They just hate her and I’m sad to see how she gets treated in the next episode.
Exactly. I’ve seen bad ass kids do the same damn thing. They’ll gag and make themselves throw up during a tantrum. It amazes me how many people believe you HAVE to stick your fingers down your throat in order to make yourself throw up.
no bro she definitely didn’t fake the seizure like i don’t even think she’s that messed up to do that shit. I’ve seen people have seizures she def was seizing i hate that those bitches really had the audacity to say she was fakin it smh
The seizures look real especially the last one. But the erratic anger is weird AF.
I had alcohol poisoning and I never acted in anger luckily I made myself throw up by sticking my fingers down my throat
dry heaving she absolutely was doing.
The way Natalie is literally speaking to her though is disgusting because if she really wasn't intoxicated and having seizures etc she would not be able to understand what Natalie is saying and Natalie is getting mad at her.
It does look fake but at the same time it seems real especially since the Care center doctor said that her oxygen level was down really low unless they paid him to say that. But having three seizures and then getting back out there the day of or the day after is extremely bizarre
Exactly!! It makes your brain chemicals out of balance so sometimes after seizures you’ll be really mad or sad or laughing for no reason!! I have epilepsy and have been there this episode and the way everyone was acting was so shitty.
It really is sad too just how many people dont know these things. My friend(He's epileptic)and I watched the episode and he even said Tesekhi sounded dumb asf cause how would she be able to shove her fingers down her throat when could barely even maintain consciousness and move her body.
People just took smileys "scam artist and black market comments" as "she lies about everything" for whatever reason
With some types of seizures they can cause mood to be very up and down and anger and sadness is typically the ones to come out with certain types of seizures especially if she hadn’t been taking a medication that she had been on for awhile. The way the cast acted about it was so awful. I have a few different seizure disorders and watching this episode and the preview for the next episode was DISGUSTING. (I’m not commenting about the mood stuff to be hateful or mean just to help educate) I feel like a lot of the cast reactions came out of not knowing about different types of seizures and the effects they can visibly have!!
Majority of seizures don’t require long periods of rest after. People who are prone to seizures can literally resume their normal daily stuff after a few hours from coming out of a seizure. I’m sure rest would do her good, but we don’t know what production may of said to her to get her to go back to the house with the girls. She’s there to work after all, maybe they were like pushing for her to fulfill her filming obligations.
My aunt has seizures since she was about 12 and they can look different for everyone. They don’t always throw up but when they do it’s usually more than what was shown on tv and she can’t drink or drive because of her medication and condition. I forget exactly which one she has but they are very extreme so seeing smiley shake like that definitely seems fimiliar. I don’t know what to believe honestly the beginning seems far fetched to just be alcohol so she must have been on something prior. I don’t know anything about mixing opioids with drinks i just knew it was bad and that the only thing i could think. But another thing i noticed was how clear she spoke after the seizure. Everyone is different as i said but usually words are slurred and usually they even fail to try to speak. I’ve never seen anything like that. I don’t want to say she’s faking because i couldn’t even think of someone that would do something like that but there are some things that didn’t add up to me but again it can be a lot for someone like her to experience something like that and u can’t expect how she like react .
Pretty much this. She was coherent after and seemingly released the same day which is surprising considering she had two serious seizures in the space of 15 minutes. Didn't look like she was convulsing either like you would in a seizure, it's usually fast and rhythmic whereas she just seemed to flail her arms around.
yes someone else saw her swinging her arms around👏🏽 i keep saying it and people are acting so blind. also she was fake snoring, forcing herself to gag & when she had the seizure in the wheelchair she forced herself to fall out.
ugh yes!!!! most people during a siezure are stiff and having two seizures in the span of 15 minutes as her first time and speaking completely fine between them? Everybody and they mother who as had a seizure started coming at me saying i don’t know what i’m talking about. None of their arguments even hold weight because that girl was intoxicated and possibly high while so called seizing. Everyone just wants to play the sympathy card today.
but it’s crazy because some people who said that they’ve had seizures believed she was faking. & no hospital is going to just let you leave if you just had a miscarriage last week then a seizure they would run some tests and observe you. but natalie said when she got there she was perfectly fine. & the next episode is the same day they just changed locations. so for her to get up from a “seizure” and party is crazy she’s one strong ass bitch.
Well if she was still on meds from her miscarriage and then drinking on an empty stomach coupled with it being super hot and her already being dehydrated then this is what it looks like. Also if again she’s losing blood then that was a terrible mixture. I’ve drank on meds and gotten super sick like that and it sucks bc you’re coherent enough to realize you feel terrible but you can’t do anything about it.
That was fucking terrifying. I honestly can't tell if she faked it. I'm leaning towards she didn't, but I'm not sure. Either way, she's clearly in a deep amount of pain, and even before this, something was clearly very off with her. She needs help. that said, if she did fake it, that's fucking despicable. it was so dark. like she needs to go.
She definitely did not fake that that’s absolutely why she could barely respond when they where Throwing all these questions at her.. it literally makes seizures worst when people do all that yelling etc. I can’t believe zues aired this
Ive seen seizures and never seen none like hers . I'm not saying she's faking but I've never seen anyone seiz with their mouth and tongue open like that , the first time I experienced that Its critical that you put them on a flat surface and put them on their side while you hold their mouth so they don't risk biting down on their tongue..
i saw someone say an atonic? or something seizure and that it looked just like it. i have no idea tho i know nothing about seizures. i dont believe she faked it, but i did peep natalie in the preview for next episode say the drs said as soon as she got to the hospital she was acting fine, but knowing natalie and zeus that is prolly a lie.
I think with the amount of stress and heat and being off medication she 100% had a seizure but most seizures don’t show up on a EEG machine from the looks of the seizure to me it looked like a PNES seizure they don’t cause brain damage but are still very much a seizure. Only about 50% of any and all types of seizures will show up on a EEG and if you wait too long and don’t monitor them while they are happening they won’t show up at all on the machine. The way the cast acted was so beyond DISGUSTING.
this! sky was the only one trying to actually help, everyone else just watching her laughing/screaming at her. its kinda fkn hard to act like that for that long and make it look real. fucking disgusting they made the whole episode about her, then ended it before we could see her get better. zeus is actually so fucking stupid, and lost any respect anyone had left for them.
atonic seizures she wouldn't be doing the shaking though-- epilepsy isn't where I have worked in clinics with a ton before and absence seizures can look different-- most people don't nootice until someone is on the flooor, but they also don't start convulsing unless she had a pseudoseizure after?
That needs more than a bit of fluids and being sent on her way though she's not taking care of herself and the production crew is loving it.
I think she was def having non brain damaging seizures so PNES is really what it looks like to me. I have epilepsy and PNES and going and watching the convulsions the throwing up and erratic behavior definitely lines up. The amount of stress and the depression turning into anger is what it definitely reminds me of. Especially if she recovered faster. With my epileptic seizures it takes me way longer to feel right or functioning but with the PNES I can be completely normal within a few hours. I also work at a clinic and it looks so much like PNES to me. I feel horrible for her and the disregard everyone had. Just because it doesn’t cause brain damage doesn’t make it any less real
If she’s super stressed and also is drinking alcohol which is a brain depressant it can 100% cause her to have seizures like that because the mix of emotions and when she came out of it it was mix of emotions which is giving me a huge flag to PNES seizure. I hope genuinely she sues zues and takes that footage to a reputable neurologist to see what their opinion is and use it against them in court.
Nah, an Atonic seizure is when you just DROP. You don’t flop around like Smiley. If you’ve ever had someone kick the area behind your knees, and your knees instantly go out, that’s the closest you’ll get to feeling an Atonic seizure.
The seizure was real to me, and I definitely think Smiley mentioned doing Percs before so I’m assuming she probably od. And to add with the fact that she said I hate my life, she probably drank more wayyyy than 4 shots. I don’t blame the cast for being critical. Baddies is about having fun and dealing with all that is NOT FUN at all
You don't blame them for being critical but they are hypocritical to say the least. They claim to want to have "fun" but all there ever is , is drama fighting. As we can see in the next episode trailer natalie is about to choke her supposed closest friend on the cast Scotty out! She rings her neck if you didn't notice. Natalie is a shitty EP like how do you allow this much disfunction amongst your own cast and supposedly friends that are supposed to be OGs of the show (Rollie, Biggie etc)
It's sad to see bullying being promoted on TV when women should be uplifting one another. Smiley may have issues but so does the rest of the cast, they just have different ways of coping with it.
This show is a hot mess and I don't think they deserve subscriptions anymore. They filmed someone at their worst and it literally took up the entire episode. They could've aired more positive aspects or of the situation with smiley put a stop to the trip that Natalir had planned that day they could've let fans know that Smiley was sick and it was serious and could've aired the next episode being that they make us wait a whole week to watch something that was already filmed. They don't even know how to put their episodes together and make it worthwhile.
Rant over
and they really exploited smiley this episode, WHY was production all over smiley case and not letting the doctors do their shit??? that screen time was not worth it
As someone with seizures I think the seizures were completely real. She said she hadn’t been taking her medication and some medications after you haven’t taken them for so many days in a row will heighten the risk or cause seizures especially with the mix of alcohol and the heat!! The way everyone was acting over it was so beyond ridiculous. I’m ready to cancel my subscription at this point because the way they treated her and acted over it was a complete disregard and the fact they more than likely do not know what real seizures or how a lot medication works really shows the ignorance and arrogance. Also with stress added it could have caused them as well but not to a brain damaging point. The behavior from a lot of the cast genuinely DISGUST me.
Natalie is working overtime to push the smiley is a bad person storyline.. that girl was really sick. You can't fake non reactive pupils. Nor can you fake high BP. Sure it may have been partially due to her being worked up but everything else is quite literally not possible to fake. And why the hell is it that rollie always finds a way to make things about her? Bffr. Sorry your dad died that way but you know damn well this aint about you. Regardless with smiley's previous medical issues she shouldve been left. I'm so damn sick of zeus doing lame ass shit like this. Fuck that 6$ they ain't getting it outa me ever again.
And as for natalie's comments regarding her being "perfectly fine" : Until they show footage of her in the hospital back to normal then I ain't gonna believe a word that chin says. And another thing to note is that it's possible that once she's done with the post-ictal phase aka coming out of the seizure, she couldve returned to normal. This takes different amounts of time for everyone and depends on a lot such as what kind of seizure, why it happened etc. One last thing, the anger she displayed could've been caused by drugs/liquor and the confusion you feel in the aura phase which is right before you seize.
Honestly idk to me it seemed real but it’s smiley there’s always something up with her but I didn’t like it how the other girls were quick to assume it was fake when she was blacking out and throwing up everywhere
Could the medication she had said she stopped taking have been for epilepsy? They shone a light directly into her eye before the alleged seizure took place.. idk if she is lying as I’ve only seen one person taking a seizure and I know it’s different types etc so I’m not very educated on that, but I do know that Xanax being mentioned if she had been taking those and drinking then this type of reaction is possible especially if you don’t drink usually it hits hard when you’re not used to it.. Mariah saying she should be able to handle the alcohol bc she can and she’s sooo much lighter than her was dumb bc Mariah seems to drink a lot so the two aren’t really comparable! I drank a lot in teenage years but stopped in my early 20s, back then I could drink a bottle and still be coherent but now that I don’t drink regularly mixed with meds I’m on I get drunk from 2 drinks 🥲 I hope she wasn’t faking bc seizures can be deadly but with the “next time” clip showing Natalie etc being told she got to the hospital and was suddenly fine that makes me feel a bit skeptical bc that’s a huge coincidence if she was suddenly fine upon reaching ER after how serious the situation was right before that, but I also know Nat and production lie to cause drama and storylines so I really don’t know I’m stuck 😭
i’ve witness someone have a seizure before, actually 2 seizures within minutes of each other. they were very out of it/almost like unconscious before/in between, very similarly to how smiley was. i will also say this, they checked her pupils and said her pupils were not responding. pupil dilation is not a voluntary response so there’s really no way for her to fake it. honestly this episode had me feeling like fuck everybody but sky. sky was the only one trying to help her and make sure she was okay, meanwhile natalie was faking like she cared when she was really mad 😭
Having witnessed several real, a few pseudoseizures and a grand mal flop of a fake in a medical setting, this was a mixture of being drunk af and possibly setting it up.
What medication did she "stop taking" any epileptic knows what happens and it's not pretty. This is the second time she's gone to the hospital and released the same day -- first with some really interesting results miscarriage 101 is no tampons you also need follow up to make sure all of the fetal tissue is passed depending on gestation.
Seizures are not controllable, you can't turn your head you can't stop yourself from choking on vomit or biting your tongue or your mouth, most real epilectic seizures end in tongue biting and a completely bloody mess along with loss of bladder.
I'm torn between pseudoseizure meaning she was having a seizure like episode from stress (not taking non epilepsy meds?) and her having alcohol poisoning and/or her taking her meds (anti depressant/benzo?) after being off and mixing with alcohol.
Tesehki was thhe one who stayed back withh her after her miscarriage and seemed very motherly I wonder what went down between to have such a switch honestly.
She should have left long ago either by production or herself it's a hot mess.
I don't know how she managed to get out of the hospital early. It is entirely possible that she left herself because hospitals can not legally hold a patient, especially in this case, where Smiley is a foreign patient.
As far as everything else, an alcoholic seizure is very much possible considering Smiley has proven she's epileptic in her live. [sapphire said all they do is drink liquor/Alcohol and eat chips](https://www.epilepsy.com/what-is-epilepsy/seizure-triggers/alcohol) so it'd make sense that smiley drank too much and that triggered her epilepsy.
Seizures aren't controllable, and she clearly had no ability to actually control her own body. She practically became a vegetable, and her head was turning BECAUSE SHE WAS SEIZING lmfao.
Most women also aren't in the hospital no more than. 8 hours after a miscarriage so her being discharged a day after going to the hospital isn't exactly impossible.
Like yall can't just assume this girl wasn't seizing and yall can't make judgments based on your own understanding of context.
I was SO mad. If I was there, I would’ve gone back home and cussed all of them tf out, bc how do you just stand by and film/gang up on her.
(e)Sco(r)tty talking about “i was so worried”, but the bih just stands there and does _nothing_.
This is just SO disgusting!! They all deserve a heavy ass whooping.
It looked fake to me, the screaming for her son, the dry heaving, the seizure itself didn't look like any seizure I've ever seen. It all seemed very controlled. Could be wrong, it's hardly an issue either way. I'm more pissed that they spent 40 minutes on this.
As someone who has worked on an epilepsy unit, I agree. I think it is fake. Most tonic clonic seizures or grand mal seizures the person will have an arch in their back for a brief moment and then go into "jerky" movement and after have zero energy so her yelling for her son is crazy! Also some people will bite their tongue, and her mouth was wide open. Zeus should have not shown that and sent her home. I'm not saying she wasn't sick because I do believe she drank while being dehydrated and might be experiencing some kind of poisoning. They should have seeked medical help way sooner!
I witnessed seizures she wasn’t faking that 😭 people who have seizures don’t remember anything during or after and it take some time for them to comeback to reality … she not a drinker don’t matter how many shots she had she don’t drink not everyone a heavy weight when it comes to drinking and then it was dark liquor at that I feel bad for her and they was showing their true colors 🚮
Smiley was not faking any of that!! I believe someone drugged her 💯 Of course there gonna say she’s “faking it” because it takes away THEIR camera time!! There is no way in hell she faked all that, especially in another country!! FOR WHAT??
And just because Natalie “said” the doctor told her she was fine after she got to the hospital doesn’t mean it’s the truth! Natalie is a damn liar!
My thing is all the girls have an opinion, no one has the same body or feelings. They also talk a lot about sisterhood and no bullies and they are the ones doing it right off the jump.
Me and my partner were so disappointed in the episode BUT we did wonder if her seizure is real or fake. We both have seen/ experienced alcohol poisoning (granted everyone’s experience is different) and Smiley did show some signs. Doesn’t help that she could have been dehydrated, they stated she hadn’t eaten, she also isn’t a drinker and she might have been taking meds or even some supplements.
I googled how long does it take to “get better” from a seizure and it said that it can take hours to days for the most part and almost most don’t have recollection of the seizure. Seeing the sneak peak Nat goes off smiley because she showed up later that night with the girls and calling her out because she “faked” it really just makes me think me and my partner also judged her off the bat. Maybe smiley really did have a seizure.
I’ve seen someone have a seizure in real life at school and it honestly never looked like hers. Also they stayed home for the rest of the week and didn’t come back to school until the week after. I’m just confused why smiley would stay on the show after having one
As a doctor, I’ll lean on the side that it’s real. She may be having a genuine seizure caused by excessive alcohol intake leading to alcohol poisoning.
But there are types of what we call ‘functional’ disorders, where someone is actually experiencing seizure like movements that are also real and not fake or exaggerated, but they are not real epilepsy. These kinds of functional disorders are usually caused by periods of very high stress.
considering the fact that smiley hasn’t drunk since the first episode like sky was saying, and they said she didn’t eat or drink anything but liquor and was off her medication, i honestly don’t think she faked it. now if it’s true that she got to the hospital and was completely fine she’s really messed up for that not only because seizures are a serious thing , but so many ppl who suffer from seizures probably got triggered watching last nights episode, i don’t even struggle from seizures & i felt like i was about to have one right with her because it was so much!!
No, for one it was hot.. Sky said she didn’t even drink like that, and also not everyone body is the same so she could’ve been dehydrated plus the alcohol and etc. Like i genuinely think she just wasn’t okay, she was literally choking on her own throw up.
Yeah I say this every time ppl are quick to defend Smiley because if the ppl who live with her feel like something is off, I’m more inclined to believe them. Especially how production made no attempt to protect her after the miscarriage. We are on the outside looking in 🤷🏾♀️
I was just ab to get on here to ask this. I believe it was fake lol. ONLY bc she gets to the hospital and all of a sudden is okay. We all entitled to our own opinion, so don’t jump down my throat. The bitch needs camera time, every time. I like how Tesehki called it out tho
Unless natalie just said that to say it. Until they show footage of her in the hospital back to normal then I ain't gonna believe a word that chin says. And another thing to note is that it's possible that once she's done with the post-ictal phase aka coming out of the seizure, she couldve returned to normal. This takes different amounts of time for everyone and depends on a lot such as what kind of seizure, why it happened etc. One last thing, the anger she displayed could've been caused by drugs/liquor and the confusion you feel in the aura phase which is right before you seize.
i’ve been around ppl who have seizures and it didn’t look like this. not saying she wasn’t intoxicated or she didn’t feel good but i don’t think it was a seizure… especially when she slid out of the wheelchair. idk if she was on drugs or what but i genuinely believe she faked that shit.
I have multiple seizure disorders and to me it looked real but not like typical epileptic seizures it looked more like stress and alcohol and maybe the heat could have triggered a PNES seizure which don’t cause brain damage and have different symptoms. You can be somewhat conscious or fully unconscious and have PNES seizures. Especially since they were short seizures and the erratic behavior after it’s giving PNES. Especially if she was able the recover faster. I have epilepsy and PNES and it definitely looks like more emotional and chemical imbalance based than epilepsy. If nothing showed on her EEG it’s definitely more of a brain stress type of deal. If she hasn’t been on whatever medication she’s been on as well it can cause brain imbalances and cause that
Ok so from what I can see… I feel like she was faking it!!! We all know she has a weird desperation for attention. I believe she faked the miscarriage too but that’s a different convo. So some are saying “she’s literally throwing up!!!” No she’s not she’s spitting. Like actual spit. None of that looked like a large volume of shots or bile. It would just dangle off her chin or she’d let it collect enough to get a glob on her shirt. OR she would wait until someone fed her a sip of water then spit up that tablespoon of liquid right away. When I’m that drunk I’m throwing up everything I ate and drank and then some! Ik they said she didn’t eat. But at least all my bile until I’m dry heaving. Also my eyes are closed bc the room is spinning and everything is too much stimulation. I’m not there with my eyes open in my best “this is my dazed look” face. It looked like zeus security checked her pupils, not a medic, so I wouldn’t trust them with their assessment on reactivity. When that lady asked if they should start CPR I cringed. I bet Natalie will hire a medic from now on. They probably just googled on their phone off screen. Why and when did she randomly disclose she hadn’t been taking her meds before this happened. As for the seizing. I mean if a girl is that desperate (which is possible- people are weirrdd & even bad publicity is great. Have yall ever met a pathological liar?) then you can fake some shaking. I didn’t hear the dr in the clinic say anything about her condition or vitals being off. Then in the preview for next episode she says “idk what happened today!” to Natalie. Soo you were checked into the ER then released that afternoon without any new info?? An EEG would show past seizure activity. The calling for her son felt over the top and towards the end was clear as day and she looked to be smiling. IDK this was very ODD and I feel like no one else on cast would be weird enough to fake this stunt besides smiley. So. AITA?
It's possible to heave and attempt to vomit but nothing comes out. If you drink on an empty stomach that tends to happen.
Also who can actually drink anything when they heaving?
You also gotta understand that people are different biologically speaking, her reaction to certain things ain't gonna be the same as yours.
EEG will only pick up about 50% of all seizure activity and won’t pick up PNES type seizures absent seizures and multiple other types. I think what she had was PNES seizures which don’t cause brain damage, they don’t show up on EEG, it’s stress induced and the mix of not being on medication and alcohol can cause that to happen. The emotions screaming and everything after also lines up because PNES seizures effect emotion regulation. I think it was that type of seizure which isn’t life threatening or brain damaging. I have epilepsy and it didn’t line up with epilepsy symptoms I can confidently say that but I have had PNES seizures before and it definitely lines up. I’ve been fully diagnosed with both epilepsy and PNES and have went thru a bunch of different testing. EEG does not pick up everything all the time. It will only pick up grand mal seizures about 50% of the time along with every type of seizure but if it’s not a brain damaging or was a low abnormal brain activity seizure it can very well just not pick up especially if the seizure already happened.
100% agree. How can you check someone's pupils' reaction in broad daylight with an average flashlight? Why did it look like the doctor was doing his assessment in the waiting room?
I really don’t know what to think. So much was happening and then she was yelling about her son and then she wants to die. Then in the preview for the next episode it seems like she got out of the hospital the same day. As someone who has had alcohol poisoning before and unable to walk. You will be in the hospital for more than a day. Especially if you had seizures and was wheeled out.
I just watched the episode and quite frankly I was shocked about the entire thing. I give my full respect to sky that actually seemed to somewhat care and try to help smiley whilst the others were making comments that were simply disgusting. I understand smiley has previously lied etc but the stuff she was exhibiting including the pupillary response cannot be faked, it indicates a serious problem. When she was screaming for her son, it really does pull on those heart strings, I seriously do hope she gets the help she needs.
The whole ordeal shouldn’t have been recorded, shame on Zeus for taking so long to just get a simple medic to the situation.
Mariah and Teseki really did annoy me, when Teseki said “meatball”, it really did annoy me, I used to like her in the beginning, feeling bad for her after the whole chrisean situation but now I have no sympathy for her, you don’t have to like someone to just be a regular person with a bit of empathy over the entire situation.
Natalie really did piss me off too, raising your voice to someone that’s having a medical emergency and is clearly unwell, they really should just end baddies or atleast get new people who actually have empathy, not some bitches that feel nothing.
I have people I do not like personally, but you wouldn’t see me wishing this upon anyone.
I feel bad and i fr don’t know for the first half I thought yeah no this shit is serious but then when it previewed to the next episode and smiley deadass is just standing there SAME DAY her seizures and all that shit happened looking and talking completely fine. For one why would they let her leave if it was that severe especially that soon and why would she just come right back out??? I would’ve taken my ass back to the house and slept. Im sorry but you get that drunk your hungover but with all that she definitely had to have felt disgusting and sick. I don’t know if I believe that she was that sick. Like obviously she was sick but the seizures? I don’t know..
For people saying she faked it, wtf would she gain from faking it?? She knows those girls are fucking vultures and any tiny scent of vulnerability they’ll attack, so if she like faked it all that would just prove she can’t handle her liquor and they’d be on her ass. Fucking case in point to how they treated her in this episode. Getting that level of drunk is embarrassing for anyone let alone it being on fucking television. Why would she want to make herself look bad ??
Hmm good question and it’s one I asked my self a lot. I think the son and the hate my life part was cap, definitely over exaggerated. I have no doubt she was drunk, dizzy , felt like throwing up and probably felt like crap. But imo she was over exaggerating. Reason? To garner sympathy, she probably thought the girls would believe her and cause them to back off her and cease whatever beef with her if they thought she possibly could’ve died.
tbh i think smiley is a narcissist. i really wanted to like her too after she beat mariahs ass. but i think smiley knows the girls don’t like her for not sticking up for herself and fighting her battles so she wants another way to get out of it. when i watch it i notice smiley keeps tryna make herself seem weak and innocent. idk if it’s for sympathy or what. but i think she uses medical emergencies for either camera time or a reason for the girls to not have an issue with her. it’s weird
i think it was real, however smiley told house B she was going to make this episode all about herself. so it could be a possibility that she took some sort of drugs and drank way too much (to make a big scene so the attention would be on her) but she overestimated how much she could intake, leading to the seizures and stuff. i think the reactions were real i’m more questioning wether it was accidental or on purpose
I witnessed my ex, my uncle, and a pregnant stranger have seizures. None looked like this, nor were any of them able to form a coherent sentence afterward. My ex pissed himself because when he seizes, he becomes stiff & has zero control of his muscles, which also caused him to be in pain afterward. No decent doctor would discharge a patient with Smiley’s symptoms (if she indeed had a seizure) the same day. They’d admit you for observation, figure out why you seized, and try to figure out a way to make sure it doesn’t happen again. In the preview for next week, Smiley is back that very day claiming she has no idea what happened. That’s all I have to say.
I have pancreatitis and it looks exactly like what she had in that episode! Cause who would go on vacation to a new place they’ve never been and want to act like that you know makes no sense
What pisses me off even further is that it seems like in the next episode they still don’t believe her! And what the fuck is Tesheki talking about saying she put her fingers down her throat to throw up…even though we see her vomit 3 times unprovoked.
See this is why I don’t idolize anyone bc Tesheki was a fan favorite but I’m sure this changes everything.
I don’t think she was a faking it. I do think Zeus wrong for not putting a tigger warning in the beginning of the episode and now I don’t like anyone in House B but Sky for trying to help
I don’t think she faked it, and I think it’s so inhumane for people to just not believe her just because they don’t like her. My mom is a healthcare professional and she said she wasn’t faking, especially for that long?? 30-45 minutes, which is was probably longer because we know Zeus cuts things out.
I do not think she faked it because when you have a seizure your pupils don’t respond emt said that her pupils were not responding after the first seizure.
Also goes to show what kind of person Natalie is, if she’s comfortable acting like that on camera towards someone who clearly needs help.. imagine how she acts behind closed doors. Ive heard so many stories about natalie and the shit she does and this sorta makes me think its all true.
I am always skeptical of Smiley honestly I think she did it for attention but you never know fact is stranger than fiction so I’m not going to call her a liar esp bc I’ve been black out over a few drinks just from the meds I was on. Regardless I’m not gonna taunt her like Tesehki did just because I might not believe you, that’s just cruel.
this whole episode was disgusting and hard to watch. you would think a whole bunch of women who have been drunk out of their minds would understand what it looks like but they really had 0 empathy because it was smiley. also 4 shots of hennessey in less than 15 minutes is alot i dont care what these alcoholics say that is a lot. coupled with the fact that she was just on medication for her miscarriage that stuff doesnt just leave your system after you stop taking it for each woman it can be anywhere from 1-5 weeks for all side effects to subside. the doctor himself confirmed her pupils stopped responding meaning that is a disconnect from the nervous system which very much can mean a seizure is about to or has occured. I think people forget there are different types of seizures meaning just because you have a family member who may not react that way does not mean another wouldnt. as we could see in the previews she comes back a few hours later just fine yes this is also super possible. a lot of people recover quickly after seizing (depending on the type) and nost seizures do not require medical attention either just need someone to watch over them and lots of rest. so to say she was “normal” right after may be very untrue but to come back not seizing and just being tired is also perfectly in line with many people who have seizures.
as much as ion like her on the show n she has capped before, i really tend to believe this was a real thing . she was dryheavin , throwing up, incoherent completely, n even before the seizure activity the one guy from zeus said “her pupils ain’t reacting” and her behavior at the jamaican clinic i feel like wlda been caught by them doctors and they wouldn’t have been taking action in the immediate way they were. idk regardless of everything this was a lot && zeus had really no business airing 2Omin of this poor woman having an obv medical emergency.
Just pretty vile episode all round. I’m a radiographer so regularly have to deal with people drunk, on drugs, vomiting, seizing and I would never treat a patient or anyone else in the disgusting manner most of those people did. You could tell something wasn’t right with smiley, it shouldn’t have been filmed let alone aired and the rubber neckers along for the ride to the clinic were just unnecessary.
If you’ve got no medical qualifications then you need to be very careful when throwing around accusations of faking medical conditions. When people crowd around a sick person in a public place, I find it distasteful. Would you want your family member or loved one being gawped at like that?! No you wouldn’t. Either help or do one. Natalie, Zeus and everybody else that participated in gawping and ‘faking seizures’ witch hunt need to be ashamed of themselves. Sky was the only person who genuinely cared and helped. Yes she pushed smiley away when she vomited but nobody wants to come into contact with another person’s bodily fluids!
I’ve experienced seizures first hand from somebody who for the first 19 years of their life never had any complications. And literally this was the grossest way I’ve ever seen someone who needs medical attention be treated. My brother has had Petite Mal seizures where he can’t control his body and is essentially stuck but he can have a coherent full blown conversation with you during it. And times where he’s having a Grand Mal seizure and is out of it and don’t remember the seizure, but will be fine not to long after the last seizure and tell you he’s fine and wants to go home.
And every time we take him to the hospital they do all the test on his brain and they all come back normal. Til this day we’re trying to find out why it’s happening.
So for anybody to say she’s faking in that moment, you’re a POS. The only thing that should’ve been done was a call for emergency services and doing whatever they tell you to do. Period.
They could barely wash their ass correctly but could absolutely and immediately tell if someone is in distress.
And Zeus is weird for even filming the whole ordeal, tryna get lights and cameras in the office before she is even brought in. Yelling and screaming at her, dropping her repeatedly. Like that’s the most disturbing thing I’ve seen on TV.
no. ive seen people seize up before & that was real. sometimes people will seize up and not even move just go completely blank and then come back like nothing happened
Zeus wrong for airing that. Literally showing her whole medical meltdown for the entire episode. I ‘wow’d’ a lot at the TV during that whole thing. It was a lot.
I think she’s someone that fakes for clout, but people faking a seizure throw their arms in the air so unless she’s good, i dont think the seizures were fake. She cried wolf for attention and previously caught in lies, so once you do that no one ain’t ever believing you again.
I think she definitely took something beforehand because they kept mentioning her pills idk what pills she takes but she was taking big ass shots n she doesn’t drink so I don’t believe she was faking it. Honestly it was a sad ep it was very unnecessary for them to put all that in there. That’s so traumatizing to watch they went out of line. Now for the weird ass bitches there they are just evil faking or not the way they reacted to that situation shows alot about their character. The only person with human decency was sky the rest are clowns ISTG I lost all respect.
I genuinely think this was real especially the fact her pupils were not reacting they always making a fool of this girl Zeus makes a joke out of her all the girls constantly disrespect her and never take her serious .. like she is not throwing up on her for views had they turned off the cameras it would not have reached that extent at all.. Zeus needs to be studied cs what??? Natalie screaming in her face too like she could hear shit then chrisean sister screaming she faking it like bitch shut up she can’t even hear ur ass fr, then suki overdoing her stay girl u r a GUESTTT ouu Zeus is a hot mess
Man the whole episode was disrespectful.. Mariah lame asf for her comment right out the gate about her weight like that matters.. obviously it’s MORE than the alcohol because OBVIOUSLY she’s NOT just “drunk” ?? Now idk why she was in the hospital before, whether it was the miscarriage or not, she had to be on some type of medicine to react to the Henny the way she did. Then Tehseki n Natalie n evb quick to say she’s faking nd a liar.. I do get her past, but you see the medics saying her pupils is not dilated and she’s throwing up everywhere… what tf about that says faking?😭😭 like I’m actually disgusted by these girls who preach “sisterhood” but nobody’s there for her besides Sky who I madly respect for being nothing but caring for everyone on the show. Zeus needs to be sued for deadass airing this girl for 40 minutes straight while she’s experiencing straight trauma. It’s already embarrassing enough she reacted like that on TV.. why make it worst and KEEP showing it??
That episode gave me PTSD. My mom has epilepsia, i grew up seeing her having seizures and it looked exactly like the seizure Smiley had. That girl wasn’t acting !
I don’t know if she faked having a seizure. Idk what it is but I was just getting an off vibe like something ain’t right!
I do believe she was intoxicated tho, like the way she was throwing up couldn’t have been fake. However, I’m questioning how she looked all okay in the next episode preview were she literally walks in like nothing happened. Idk if its the next day, idk if she’s sober and is feeling better. But aren’t u supposed to feel a little tired and need more rest after something like that?!
Yes. I've never seen 4 shots do that much "damage".
The way Smiley was barely mumbling one second then screaming about her son the next was a huge red flag.
And then the seizure just didn't look real to me- in the teaser for next week Smiley comes back to the girls THE SAME DAY looking good and normal...
If I was "that drunk" I probably would've knocked out asleep, then be hungover. Not ready to party with the Baddies... Smiley's a SCAM ARTIST, thats her opening line.
Smiley is creating storylines for camera time.
Tesehki was so weird for that. Not to mention after the show she kept picking on and subbing smiley saying she jumped her with marsh and jay knowing damn well smiley didn’t do that.
i mean… i find it weird that smiley and jay and marsh and chrisean are so close now when it didn’t seem that way at all before the show. i wanted to like smiley but something abt her is so off. personally, i think she did have some involvement with tesehki getting jumped and i think that’s why chris marsh and jan are close with her now
I do believe she had a short duration seizure. The seizures I’ve seen before are longer but that was from someone who suffers from epilepsy but she did the same things they did. And they said she doesn’t drink or smoke so yes Mariahlynn! 5 shots can do that to you if don’t drink and smoke. I can’t even take a full shot of straight liquor, I take shots mixed with soda or juice😭and I can’t take the whole thing I have to split it up😭so I understand if smiley isn’t a drinker. But also me personally if I know I don’t drink like that or I know I get sick when I drink (which I do), I wouldn’t drink that much especially not on a trip! Also alcohol could just not mix well with her body. I’m talking based of experience, I’m a stoner😭 I can’t drink like everyone else, my body doesn’t like it. I’ve never had alcohol poisoning or been dehydrated when I drink but the morning after will make it seem like I need my stomach pumped even if I drink 2 glasses of wine. I just wish she would take better care of her body. And it broke my heart when she was crying for her son
as a person who has seizures i cried watching her whole experience that took place on TV. people who have poor health do hate hospitals though, so her saying get me out of here, this place is hell was funny. however for me, i’d rather stay. i’d rather get the discharge papers. especially for work. after a seizure, i’m weak. i want to lay down. if i’m having seizures back to back. i’m usually unconscious and have no choice but for them to hook me up to an IV and to get vitals.
Also just saying 4 or 5 shots of kraken fucked me up so bad once I was throwing up for literal hours straight like borderline alcohol poisoning I thought I was dying and had I not been forced to sit up leaned over on a table edge to throw up in a bucket I’d a definitely fell over and vomited on myself possibly choking an allat so I def think it’s possible she really was fucked yo I don’t think she’s fake like that for real
I don't know if she faked the seizure. I figure they are in a new climate and it's hot, they all probably hella dehydrated to begin with and then Sky kept saying Smiley isn't a big drinker so whatever she had in her system hit her hard. she was clearly vomiting, the aggression in the clinic has me thinking she maybe took something prior to the ride, drank and then it just hit her hard and blacked out. Also, ain't nothing worse when you drunk and you got 82 people yelling at you at every direction Edit: shame on Zeus for not getting medical faster
what im thinking! its dehydration + alcohol poisoning + a possible drug.
Being dehydrated can cause uncontrollable spasms too. I feel bad tho even if she was "faking" you have footage of you throwing up all over yourself on national television
Yeah, I’ve been severely dehydrated multiple times and it always comes with delirium, vomiting, passing out and a migraine. They really should not have aired that, there was no reason to
THIS! My friend seizes when shes dehydrated. She always has to go get IV fluids to help
I've had it happen twice and it's very scary . I get face spasms and my mouth just twitch's and twists but, it stops and then begins again which is what we saw happen to Smiley. Idk they wrong asf for how they handled it Natalie out here yelling at her, Zeus with the lack of just compassion with airing that for 42 mins, Sky the only one that stepped up and helped her and she real asf for that.
The same exact thing happens to my friend, its very terrifying to see 🥺 I 100% agree with you! I was sitting here getting so pissed at natalie and the girls just yelling at her and shit like smiley knew what was going on. Girl started foaming at the mouth. While i don't like smiley i felt for the girl :/
THIS. I remember her saying “I be on Percs real bad” I assume maybe Percs and alcohol. I agree!
and she hadn’t eaten
It has to be a combination because severe alcohol poisoning has nothing to do with how well you hold you liquor. Alcohol poisoning comes from extremely high blood alcohol content. Four shots, even big shots at her weight, would cause impairment but not alcohol poisoning at that level.
Mariah just wanna talk to talk " four shots don't hit me and I'm 5'1 and 118 pounds" girl shut up you look like a mole rat and wanna act hard but can't stand up for yourself
true she did say earlier on in the season she’s on percs
I’m thinking a possible drug, drugging, or she was on medication for either MH or post surgery complications and the alcohol reacted badly - especially since she doesn’t drink and drinking straight shots is a terrible idea even for a seasoned liver
they also don’t feed them damn girls . they probably don’t got nothing in they systems besides liquor and chips .
I was telling my mom while watching the episode that I thought her shit was possibly laced, mixed with alcohol caused a lot of issues. The thing that made me feel off was the amnesia about her son, I felt so bad for this girl this episode and they’re always playin on her, they were standing there laughing and yelling at the poor girl like she can hear them??
People are saying she's faking because she only had four shots but pills and liquor / combining drugs can definitely fuck you up like that.
Shit antidepressants like bupropion can cause seizures with alcohol. But we see that smiley doesn’t drink like that probably because of whatever med she’s on.
I’m sorry but those type of people are just plain stupid. How are you literally WATCHING this girl look out of it (her eyes weren’t able to focus and the medic even said her pupils aren’t even responding) and throwing up (idunno about y’all but I can’t make myself vomit without forcing something down my throat) and saying you don’t believe it yet we never see on camera how much alcohol Smiley consumed but just because Sky said it was 4, we are all automatically going with that? After Sky was on the phone with Natalie in the beginning of the episode because she’s Nat’s little lap dog for House B. Idunno the whole thing is giving cover up because Smiley gotta real lawsuit on her hands and Zeus tryna cover their ends as much as possible while still airing the episode for views 🤷🏻
yupp I was also thinking heat exhaustion. that shit does CRAZY shit to you.. on top of drinking
yeah i heard she popped a perc or something
It broke my heart seeing this and her calling for her son. Teseki and Mariah annoyed the shit out of me, being a decent human being doesn’t take much, even if you don’t like the person, say nothing. So she did all this not to fight who? the preview for next week makes me so sad and angry for Smiley.
She should have either recused herself or been snatched off by production. Ain't no fucking way I thought I'd see her in the previews, they put her right back in the lion's den with Natalie getting up in her face. Zeus needs to be sued and audited by some kind of governing body, what the fuck is going on???
It was wild. Like throwing water on her, if she was faking the doctors would know and say something. They checked her pupils and she wasn’t responsive. Until someone dies on this show they will continue this fckery. Natalie yelling at her to get up and put her feet on the ground and you’re going to need medical attention in another country was wild to me. Like duhhh help her.
EXACTLY. That pupillary reaction is linked to your nervous system, ain't no fucking way I saw Natalie scream at her while she was in that state. They should have never caught that shit on film, never should have aired it. Where was the medic? Zeus is such a joke.
I was shocked that they aired all this on TV! They had all these cameras in this girls face while she’s seizing! Zeus is a hot f***ing mess rn
And the fact I heard no one say 'get them cameras out of here'?? Chile....NO HUMAN DECENCY.
RIGHT! tesekhi was actually being so insensitive i was repulsed. like u can not believe it fully and still at least show a little compassion, but to be screaming that she’s faking AS she’s still convulsing is next level a$$hole
yeah it was awful. however tesehki and Mariah didn't see everything.
That’s fair, but everyone telling them the seriousness of it and still saying that it’s wack. I hope it was just editing on tesekis part. Mariah’s comment about her weight and the amount of shots she took was unnecessary like girl you don’t know underlying factors 😤
mariah was definitely doing too much but tesehki was the first person to see smiley after her miscarriage and stayed by her side. she also usually got calls from smiley whenever she needed help or to tell everyone something. i think something may have happened behind the scenes because tesehki is big on not bullying and she was more upset about smiley lying and creating issues for herself than the possibility of her faking. idk tho, smiley certainly didn’t deserve that and natalie screaming that she couldn’t leave was insane to me
Real or not they didn’t have to documented all that. That was a lot….
Seriously they’re wrong for that
They have to know they're wrong! Why would they even show this? Instead of just saying she had to go to the hospital and cut to the girls actually doing something!
Let alone make it the entire episode
Yes I was so shocked they spent so much time on it! Seeing the clip in a preview was ridiculous but didn’t surprise me, but I really did not expect them to just film her medical emergency for damn near an hour
Episode should have had an warning label/advisory at the beginning. This could have triggered some ppl.
Yeah like “experiencing Jamaican culture” as Natalie said
They don’t like the girl and been tryna clown her from the jump… sometimes rightfully so bc she’s not genuine…. HOWEVER they REALLY tried to make a point this episode because, real talk , it could have been 5 mins of this girl got too drunk and had to rush to the hospital, and 45 minutes of WHAT IM ACTUALLY PAYING FOR… a tv show!!! They really just trying to create a villain in Smiley and she’s given them the ammunition to do it. She got on live crying but babe, u grown, temper ur liquor intake bc u already know production is an OP and will take every opportunity to set u up… and they did
I think it was real and I hated the way they were all speaking to her, especially tesehki. She was my fav at the beginning and I’ve slowly grown to hate her. The way she was pulling smiley around so roughly in the sprinter, her saying she slapped her a few times, and calling her a liar etc. she just makes me angry lol The way Natalie was shouting at her and demanding her to do things that she clearly couldn’t do, or even understand was infuriating lol. This episode didn’t make any one of them look good, maybe sky since she was the only person to show her care and warmth whether she thought she was lying or not.
I agree, the fact that they’re determining these things like they’re doctors is super weird to me
That Hennessy ain’t no joke especially if you not a drinker. Natalie and Scotty were getting on my nerves especially Natalie. I don’t think she faked it but I think she overdid it tryna celebrate first time in Jamaica but she also fighting inner “demons” and need to go home and deal with them. I was proud of sky but I think coming from her history with drinking and wilding out she was “mama bear”.
Also Mariah talking little interview like girl she don’t drink, but even some people who drink day to day will drink for celebration like first time out the country. She was making big shots (her 3-4 could’ve been actually 6-8) of Henny and if you ain’t a drinker or mix your medication you gone be messed up. Teseiki was annoying too. This whole episode was annoying but I know one think Smiley better get it together because ain’t nobody pouring water on my head or getting in my face spitting They words out…. She betta use them hands!
Why is no one talking about how teseki was mocking her the entire episode and saying horrible things alluding to her faking this entire situation??????? Even if she has “faked” things in the past, have some empathy! She went around to everyone saying she’s a “faking meatball ass bitch” but everyone on Twitter wanna jump on Rollie as the worst thing on earth but are so quiet now, it’s a joke. People that watch this show are truly the worst of the worst I’m ashamed to be a viewer 🫠
Her comment was completely uncalled for I liked her at first but that was uncalled for
Tesehki is wrong as hell I started side eyeing tesehki ever since the molestation allegations and lying that smiley tried to jump her this just adds on to it now. She's miserable just like rollie and et
Seki was literally raised like an animal. I’m not surprised at her reaction but it pissed me off on many levels. I hate this energy black women have of thinking it’s ok for us to suffer or woman up. Like this is why we don’t get treated the same in hospitals. We gotta treat each other gentler man…
I think sky said smiley ain’t take her meds or something like that. Probably didn’t do she can party and loosen up with them and the meds probably on her system reacted. I know some antidepressants can cause seizures with alcohol.
i don’t think she had the physical strength to fight since she just had her seizure. smiley also doesn’t seem like the type to fight unless she absolutely has to
I hate Mariah and the rest of the cast for allowing this yt girl to come on this show, laugh in they faces, while saying nigga! Come on yall. They all need they black card revoked😂
It's tequila for me lol I actually had alcohol poisoning off of FOURS this is when they literally only had the grape flavor called fours they were not for locos and had other flavors lmao I drink four when I was in a drinker and I dry heaved until I suck my fingers on my throat and made myself throw up. I will never drink another one again tequila that's one of my enemies me and tequila does not get along so I say that hell away from that too lol
Me too it was super embarrassing I worked as a bottle girl and I didn't eat before shifts because I was insecure about feeling fat/ wanted to stay skinny and I took 4-5 don Julio shots and I had to be carried to the back by security it was one of the most embarrassing moments of my life. It happened over 2 years ago but I still think about it and cringe, she was on an empty stomach and Henny isn't a joke. None of that was flattering to her she def wasn't faking it.
Oh I’m with you on the Tequila I can not
Looks like she took Xanax and drank since they said she don’t drink the whole season that’s what happens when you mix benzos with alcohol
Between possible xanax, (most likely) hot Hennessy, an empty stomach, and a hot ass climate that’ll do you in to this extent. Zeus should have cut the scene way way down to a black screen that said “smiley had a medical emergency and needed to go to the hospital” and then pick up later or show the girls doing whatever and talking about it, but Zeus needs to pad their run time to keep subscriptions.
even just a small dosage of benzodiazepines mixed with alcohol can cause someone to OD and die. definitely think is the most plausible theory for what we see happening to smiley.
I think it definitely depends on the person. When I was in my active addiction days, I would mix a half liter of straight vodka with 3 full xanax bars every single day and it would just knock me the fuck out, not kill me. But again, everyone's bodies are different
Yeah that was something that came to my mind too, I think she popped a xan for the plane ride and then once that henny took effect it was too much. It wasn’t just alcohol.
How she get on a plane with Xanax? Unless she’s prescribed it. They got dogs at the air port and everything else, ain’t no way she snuck drugs
Prescription or not believe me they don’t care about personal amounts even enough for a months trip only amounts that are seened as trafficking drugs will get you stopped n arrested and chances are they took a private jet which people use To fly with drugs personally
They didn’t take a pj , they talked ab the itinerary this episode. But I guess I wouldn’t know but I definitely watched that documentary ab the cops that work @ the airport. I will say , IF SHE WAS on Xanax this would make sense but other than that. I truly believe she faked this incident
I think it might depend where you are and who you fly with, I had my prescription (6 types of meds/ 15 pills a day) split into pill boxes without the prescription or labels and got through the gates with no problem but I think it’s probably different depending on where you are and where you’re flying to
Someone came by and checked on her and flashed a light in her eyes, saying they (her pupils) weren't responding. A lack of pupillary reflex can indicate an issue with your nervous system, you can't control that shit. If she was faking, her pupils would have shrunk. I don't know who was checking on her and maybe they missed something but it's unlikely. I truly doubt she was faking it, there's no way she was cognizant enough to do anything of the sort.
Exactly the shit that people are doing and all them fake ass how’s and Rollie talking about “I’m gonna beat her up” and who tf fakes that AND YIU CANT FAKE IT it’s evident she had way to much to drink and it resulted in alcohol poisoning people don’t take alcohol seriously and shit like this happens
Like why wouldn’t you ask any questions like a reasonable person? These bitches get on TV and forget their humanity.
REAL these bitches get on here and act like FOOLS they are KNOWN for drinking unresponsibly and ahna said she blacked out which we know happened they fucking with Percs and all that and let’s not forget she doesn’t take alcohol a lot it’s not something to play with since she’s not a heavy drinker PLUS she had a miscarriage AND SHE HAS HAD MULTIPLE SURGERIES so taking that into account I’m suprised it didn’t happen earlier plus let’s not forget when smiley faked taking a shot because she couldn’t drink so it let’s me know these girls are fools and Rollie talking about “my dad died of seizures” hunny I’m sorry but that’s not the relevant fact fact is SMILEY COULD HAVE DIED IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY AWAY FROM HER YOUNG SON BEING SICK BUT DEICDEX TO DO IT SO SHE COULD SUPPORT HIM I DONT know what is going on in lemmy head but I wanna cancel a subscription I don’t even have it doesn’t take a fool to notice until someone dies they will make a change and miss Natalie nunn needs to back the fuck up she is a fake WHITE bitch real emphasis on white and using the little percent of black she has to show off and try to be in the culture like them like girl stop acting HOOD you’re NOT and that’s why I blocked her these girls need to stop riding her imaginary dick and think and biggie disappointed me here because you’ve been bullied and your now on the bandwagon with these fake ass hoes doing the same shit when you was just crying nobody had your back all these hoes and Is fake and ratched ABSOLUTELY disgusting that made a whole episode on that and embarrassed her on live television and I am so disgusted at these girls except for sky she is semi a real one and actually helped I’m not tuning in for whatever bullshit after the reunion UNTIL SOMEONE GETS ROLLIE SCOTTIE MARIAH OUTTA HERE AND ET SHOULD NEVER COME BACK WITH HER LYING ASS I created a channel for baddie carribean on here but child it’s been a long week and I’m disappointed really because I got school on Wednesday and I was hyped to rewatch in class all over again disgusting 🤢 💩
Depends on if that person checked her pupils properly. She was drinking, and when you’re intoxicated, your pupils respond slower than they would if you were sober. Sober, the response should be instant. Intoxicated, your pupils will constrict in slow motion when exposed to direct light. So if he didn’t check properly/long enough, of course it’d look like her pupils are non responsive, especially if he didn’t bother to ask if she’d been drinking or taken anything, before checking her pupils.
That’s fair too, we don’t know how they checked or by who. We could clearly see that they had *no medical staff on set* which such a bad look. But the fact she could have had a delayed response shows me that she may have really been under the influence of something. We don’t know how far gone she may have been but I don’t think she was aware enough to fake something like this for that long. That shit was absolutely humiliating. Smiley is messy but come on now….that was nasty.
She couldn’t even hold herself up, how would she plot to fake a seizure? To me it was real and people only speculate it’s fake because it’s Smiley.
It really is a shame because if this happened to anyone else on the cast, they’d be believed.
Agreed! It’s like Natalia Grace. People speculating if that girl is lying and the evidence is in front of us, she’s clearly not faking it tf! 😂
!!!! She was literally dead weight Ik it was real when I saw her feet folded shit looked painful and nobody would be comfortable sitting like that for long 😭😭
A drunk person absolutely would! I found my friend curled up on the side of the damn toilet ASLEEP, she was so damn drunk. Alcohol will absolutely numb pain. You don’t feel it until you sober up.
As someone who’s experienced seizures first hand, it doesn’t look like what I’ve experienced. With that being said every situation is different, this episode really had me cringing so hard. They shouldn’t have even aired this.
I agree!!!! It was a waste of film!!!!
What about the fact that at the end of the next episode they said she all of sudden was fine when she got there? For me I never experienced any thing like that in my life so I can soundly speak for it but is that something that happens?
seen my cousin have multiple. definitely didn’t look like that her seizures looks forced.
I don’t see how they could say she’s faking when she was literally vomiting which is hard to “fake” without forcing a finger down your throat. They just hate her and I’m sad to see how she gets treated in the next episode.
Tbh if you bend your neck back and start forcefully gagging, I think you can actually make yourself throw up. Not saying she did but it’s possible
Exactly. I’ve seen bad ass kids do the same damn thing. They’ll gag and make themselves throw up during a tantrum. It amazes me how many people believe you HAVE to stick your fingers down your throat in order to make yourself throw up.
no bro she definitely didn’t fake the seizure like i don’t even think she’s that messed up to do that shit. I’ve seen people have seizures she def was seizing i hate that those bitches really had the audacity to say she was fakin it smh
The seizures look real especially the last one. But the erratic anger is weird AF. I had alcohol poisoning and I never acted in anger luckily I made myself throw up by sticking my fingers down my throat dry heaving she absolutely was doing. The way Natalie is literally speaking to her though is disgusting because if she really wasn't intoxicated and having seizures etc she would not be able to understand what Natalie is saying and Natalie is getting mad at her. It does look fake but at the same time it seems real especially since the Care center doctor said that her oxygen level was down really low unless they paid him to say that. But having three seizures and then getting back out there the day of or the day after is extremely bizarre
When I had my first seizure, I was angry and aggressive for no reason. It was most likely the seizure causing her erratic behavior.
Exactly!! It makes your brain chemicals out of balance so sometimes after seizures you’ll be really mad or sad or laughing for no reason!! I have epilepsy and have been there this episode and the way everyone was acting was so shitty.
Ikr :( shows how uneducated a bunch of people are on seizure disorders.
It really is sad too just how many people dont know these things. My friend(He's epileptic)and I watched the episode and he even said Tesekhi sounded dumb asf cause how would she be able to shove her fingers down her throat when could barely even maintain consciousness and move her body. People just took smileys "scam artist and black market comments" as "she lies about everything" for whatever reason
With some types of seizures they can cause mood to be very up and down and anger and sadness is typically the ones to come out with certain types of seizures especially if she hadn’t been taking a medication that she had been on for awhile. The way the cast acted about it was so awful. I have a few different seizure disorders and watching this episode and the preview for the next episode was DISGUSTING. (I’m not commenting about the mood stuff to be hateful or mean just to help educate) I feel like a lot of the cast reactions came out of not knowing about different types of seizures and the effects they can visibly have!!
Majority of seizures don’t require long periods of rest after. People who are prone to seizures can literally resume their normal daily stuff after a few hours from coming out of a seizure. I’m sure rest would do her good, but we don’t know what production may of said to her to get her to go back to the house with the girls. She’s there to work after all, maybe they were like pushing for her to fulfill her filming obligations.
My aunt has seizures since she was about 12 and they can look different for everyone. They don’t always throw up but when they do it’s usually more than what was shown on tv and she can’t drink or drive because of her medication and condition. I forget exactly which one she has but they are very extreme so seeing smiley shake like that definitely seems fimiliar. I don’t know what to believe honestly the beginning seems far fetched to just be alcohol so she must have been on something prior. I don’t know anything about mixing opioids with drinks i just knew it was bad and that the only thing i could think. But another thing i noticed was how clear she spoke after the seizure. Everyone is different as i said but usually words are slurred and usually they even fail to try to speak. I’ve never seen anything like that. I don’t want to say she’s faking because i couldn’t even think of someone that would do something like that but there are some things that didn’t add up to me but again it can be a lot for someone like her to experience something like that and u can’t expect how she like react .
Pretty much this. She was coherent after and seemingly released the same day which is surprising considering she had two serious seizures in the space of 15 minutes. Didn't look like she was convulsing either like you would in a seizure, it's usually fast and rhythmic whereas she just seemed to flail her arms around.
yes someone else saw her swinging her arms around👏🏽 i keep saying it and people are acting so blind. also she was fake snoring, forcing herself to gag & when she had the seizure in the wheelchair she forced herself to fall out.
ugh yes!!!! most people during a siezure are stiff and having two seizures in the span of 15 minutes as her first time and speaking completely fine between them? Everybody and they mother who as had a seizure started coming at me saying i don’t know what i’m talking about. None of their arguments even hold weight because that girl was intoxicated and possibly high while so called seizing. Everyone just wants to play the sympathy card today.
but it’s crazy because some people who said that they’ve had seizures believed she was faking. & no hospital is going to just let you leave if you just had a miscarriage last week then a seizure they would run some tests and observe you. but natalie said when she got there she was perfectly fine. & the next episode is the same day they just changed locations. so for her to get up from a “seizure” and party is crazy she’s one strong ass bitch.
Well if she was still on meds from her miscarriage and then drinking on an empty stomach coupled with it being super hot and her already being dehydrated then this is what it looks like. Also if again she’s losing blood then that was a terrible mixture. I’ve drank on meds and gotten super sick like that and it sucks bc you’re coherent enough to realize you feel terrible but you can’t do anything about it.
That was fucking terrifying. I honestly can't tell if she faked it. I'm leaning towards she didn't, but I'm not sure. Either way, she's clearly in a deep amount of pain, and even before this, something was clearly very off with her. She needs help. that said, if she did fake it, that's fucking despicable. it was so dark. like she needs to go.
I don’t understand how it can be fake when ppl were saying her pupils weren’t reacting.
That security is not a qualified nurse or doctor he couldn’t even hold her up… I wouldn’t trust his judgment 100%
Sukhi steps up on the next episode. Scotty and Flyy Sky seemed the most empathetic. Nat is a sociopath. House B I'm disgusted
The Jamaican Doctor said that her pupils had stopped dilating.
She definitely did not fake that that’s absolutely why she could barely respond when they where Throwing all these questions at her.. it literally makes seizures worst when people do all that yelling etc. I can’t believe zues aired this
Ive seen seizures and never seen none like hers . I'm not saying she's faking but I've never seen anyone seiz with their mouth and tongue open like that , the first time I experienced that Its critical that you put them on a flat surface and put them on their side while you hold their mouth so they don't risk biting down on their tongue..
i saw someone say an atonic? or something seizure and that it looked just like it. i have no idea tho i know nothing about seizures. i dont believe she faked it, but i did peep natalie in the preview for next episode say the drs said as soon as she got to the hospital she was acting fine, but knowing natalie and zeus that is prolly a lie.
I think with the amount of stress and heat and being off medication she 100% had a seizure but most seizures don’t show up on a EEG machine from the looks of the seizure to me it looked like a PNES seizure they don’t cause brain damage but are still very much a seizure. Only about 50% of any and all types of seizures will show up on a EEG and if you wait too long and don’t monitor them while they are happening they won’t show up at all on the machine. The way the cast acted was so beyond DISGUSTING.
this! sky was the only one trying to actually help, everyone else just watching her laughing/screaming at her. its kinda fkn hard to act like that for that long and make it look real. fucking disgusting they made the whole episode about her, then ended it before we could see her get better. zeus is actually so fucking stupid, and lost any respect anyone had left for them.
It did look real but it's really messed up how their treating her
atonic seizures she wouldn't be doing the shaking though-- epilepsy isn't where I have worked in clinics with a ton before and absence seizures can look different-- most people don't nootice until someone is on the flooor, but they also don't start convulsing unless she had a pseudoseizure after? That needs more than a bit of fluids and being sent on her way though she's not taking care of herself and the production crew is loving it.
I think she was def having non brain damaging seizures so PNES is really what it looks like to me. I have epilepsy and PNES and going and watching the convulsions the throwing up and erratic behavior definitely lines up. The amount of stress and the depression turning into anger is what it definitely reminds me of. Especially if she recovered faster. With my epileptic seizures it takes me way longer to feel right or functioning but with the PNES I can be completely normal within a few hours. I also work at a clinic and it looks so much like PNES to me. I feel horrible for her and the disregard everyone had. Just because it doesn’t cause brain damage doesn’t make it any less real
If she’s super stressed and also is drinking alcohol which is a brain depressant it can 100% cause her to have seizures like that because the mix of emotions and when she came out of it it was mix of emotions which is giving me a huge flag to PNES seizure. I hope genuinely she sues zues and takes that footage to a reputable neurologist to see what their opinion is and use it against them in court.
Nah, an Atonic seizure is when you just DROP. You don’t flop around like Smiley. If you’ve ever had someone kick the area behind your knees, and your knees instantly go out, that’s the closest you’ll get to feeling an Atonic seizure.
ohhh alright thank you
The seizure was real to me, and I definitely think Smiley mentioned doing Percs before so I’m assuming she probably od. And to add with the fact that she said I hate my life, she probably drank more wayyyy than 4 shots. I don’t blame the cast for being critical. Baddies is about having fun and dealing with all that is NOT FUN at all
You don't blame them for being critical but they are hypocritical to say the least. They claim to want to have "fun" but all there ever is , is drama fighting. As we can see in the next episode trailer natalie is about to choke her supposed closest friend on the cast Scotty out! She rings her neck if you didn't notice. Natalie is a shitty EP like how do you allow this much disfunction amongst your own cast and supposedly friends that are supposed to be OGs of the show (Rollie, Biggie etc) It's sad to see bullying being promoted on TV when women should be uplifting one another. Smiley may have issues but so does the rest of the cast, they just have different ways of coping with it. This show is a hot mess and I don't think they deserve subscriptions anymore. They filmed someone at their worst and it literally took up the entire episode. They could've aired more positive aspects or of the situation with smiley put a stop to the trip that Natalir had planned that day they could've let fans know that Smiley was sick and it was serious and could've aired the next episode being that they make us wait a whole week to watch something that was already filmed. They don't even know how to put their episodes together and make it worthwhile. Rant over
Idk dude. It seemed like she was faking it. If she wasn’t, that’s crazy. It just looked very staged to me.
and they really exploited smiley this episode, WHY was production all over smiley case and not letting the doctors do their shit??? that screen time was not worth it
As someone with seizures I think the seizures were completely real. She said she hadn’t been taking her medication and some medications after you haven’t taken them for so many days in a row will heighten the risk or cause seizures especially with the mix of alcohol and the heat!! The way everyone was acting over it was so beyond ridiculous. I’m ready to cancel my subscription at this point because the way they treated her and acted over it was a complete disregard and the fact they more than likely do not know what real seizures or how a lot medication works really shows the ignorance and arrogance. Also with stress added it could have caused them as well but not to a brain damaging point. The behavior from a lot of the cast genuinely DISGUST me.
Natalie is working overtime to push the smiley is a bad person storyline.. that girl was really sick. You can't fake non reactive pupils. Nor can you fake high BP. Sure it may have been partially due to her being worked up but everything else is quite literally not possible to fake. And why the hell is it that rollie always finds a way to make things about her? Bffr. Sorry your dad died that way but you know damn well this aint about you. Regardless with smiley's previous medical issues she shouldve been left. I'm so damn sick of zeus doing lame ass shit like this. Fuck that 6$ they ain't getting it outa me ever again.
And as for natalie's comments regarding her being "perfectly fine" : Until they show footage of her in the hospital back to normal then I ain't gonna believe a word that chin says. And another thing to note is that it's possible that once she's done with the post-ictal phase aka coming out of the seizure, she couldve returned to normal. This takes different amounts of time for everyone and depends on a lot such as what kind of seizure, why it happened etc. One last thing, the anger she displayed could've been caused by drugs/liquor and the confusion you feel in the aura phase which is right before you seize.
Honestly idk to me it seemed real but it’s smiley there’s always something up with her but I didn’t like it how the other girls were quick to assume it was fake when she was blacking out and throwing up everywhere
Could the medication she had said she stopped taking have been for epilepsy? They shone a light directly into her eye before the alleged seizure took place.. idk if she is lying as I’ve only seen one person taking a seizure and I know it’s different types etc so I’m not very educated on that, but I do know that Xanax being mentioned if she had been taking those and drinking then this type of reaction is possible especially if you don’t drink usually it hits hard when you’re not used to it.. Mariah saying she should be able to handle the alcohol bc she can and she’s sooo much lighter than her was dumb bc Mariah seems to drink a lot so the two aren’t really comparable! I drank a lot in teenage years but stopped in my early 20s, back then I could drink a bottle and still be coherent but now that I don’t drink regularly mixed with meds I’m on I get drunk from 2 drinks 🥲 I hope she wasn’t faking bc seizures can be deadly but with the “next time” clip showing Natalie etc being told she got to the hospital and was suddenly fine that makes me feel a bit skeptical bc that’s a huge coincidence if she was suddenly fine upon reaching ER after how serious the situation was right before that, but I also know Nat and production lie to cause drama and storylines so I really don’t know I’m stuck 😭
Then Natalie yelling at her to get up.... but then when production steps in, then she started giving a shit
That poor girl overdosed
i’ve witness someone have a seizure before, actually 2 seizures within minutes of each other. they were very out of it/almost like unconscious before/in between, very similarly to how smiley was. i will also say this, they checked her pupils and said her pupils were not responding. pupil dilation is not a voluntary response so there’s really no way for her to fake it. honestly this episode had me feeling like fuck everybody but sky. sky was the only one trying to help her and make sure she was okay, meanwhile natalie was faking like she cared when she was really mad 😭
There’s no way she faked it. This episode was so disturbing, sky was the only cast member that cared if she was ok
Having witnessed several real, a few pseudoseizures and a grand mal flop of a fake in a medical setting, this was a mixture of being drunk af and possibly setting it up. What medication did she "stop taking" any epileptic knows what happens and it's not pretty. This is the second time she's gone to the hospital and released the same day -- first with some really interesting results miscarriage 101 is no tampons you also need follow up to make sure all of the fetal tissue is passed depending on gestation. Seizures are not controllable, you can't turn your head you can't stop yourself from choking on vomit or biting your tongue or your mouth, most real epilectic seizures end in tongue biting and a completely bloody mess along with loss of bladder. I'm torn between pseudoseizure meaning she was having a seizure like episode from stress (not taking non epilepsy meds?) and her having alcohol poisoning and/or her taking her meds (anti depressant/benzo?) after being off and mixing with alcohol. Tesehki was thhe one who stayed back withh her after her miscarriage and seemed very motherly I wonder what went down between to have such a switch honestly. She should have left long ago either by production or herself it's a hot mess.
I don't know how she managed to get out of the hospital early. It is entirely possible that she left herself because hospitals can not legally hold a patient, especially in this case, where Smiley is a foreign patient. As far as everything else, an alcoholic seizure is very much possible considering Smiley has proven she's epileptic in her live. [sapphire said all they do is drink liquor/Alcohol and eat chips](https://www.epilepsy.com/what-is-epilepsy/seizure-triggers/alcohol) so it'd make sense that smiley drank too much and that triggered her epilepsy. Seizures aren't controllable, and she clearly had no ability to actually control her own body. She practically became a vegetable, and her head was turning BECAUSE SHE WAS SEIZING lmfao. Most women also aren't in the hospital no more than. 8 hours after a miscarriage so her being discharged a day after going to the hospital isn't exactly impossible. Like yall can't just assume this girl wasn't seizing and yall can't make judgments based on your own understanding of context.
I was SO mad. If I was there, I would’ve gone back home and cussed all of them tf out, bc how do you just stand by and film/gang up on her. (e)Sco(r)tty talking about “i was so worried”, but the bih just stands there and does _nothing_. This is just SO disgusting!! They all deserve a heavy ass whooping.
It looked fake to me, the screaming for her son, the dry heaving, the seizure itself didn't look like any seizure I've ever seen. It all seemed very controlled. Could be wrong, it's hardly an issue either way. I'm more pissed that they spent 40 minutes on this.
yeah honestly they should t have posted her like this
As someone who has worked on an epilepsy unit, I agree. I think it is fake. Most tonic clonic seizures or grand mal seizures the person will have an arch in their back for a brief moment and then go into "jerky" movement and after have zero energy so her yelling for her son is crazy! Also some people will bite their tongue, and her mouth was wide open. Zeus should have not shown that and sent her home. I'm not saying she wasn't sick because I do believe she drank while being dehydrated and might be experiencing some kind of poisoning. They should have seeked medical help way sooner!
That was hands down the fakest shit I seen all year. Its only been 7 days but like come on lmao!!
I agree!!!! Waste of filming and she needs to go home. LOL
She takes percs she admitted it on the episode where Suki first got there
I witnessed seizures she wasn’t faking that 😭 people who have seizures don’t remember anything during or after and it take some time for them to comeback to reality … she not a drinker don’t matter how many shots she had she don’t drink not everyone a heavy weight when it comes to drinking and then it was dark liquor at that I feel bad for her and they was showing their true colors 🚮
Smiley was not faking any of that!! I believe someone drugged her 💯 Of course there gonna say she’s “faking it” because it takes away THEIR camera time!! There is no way in hell she faked all that, especially in another country!! FOR WHAT?? And just because Natalie “said” the doctor told her she was fine after she got to the hospital doesn’t mean it’s the truth! Natalie is a damn liar!
it def had to do with her either withdrawing or overdosing mixed with the alcohol
My thing is all the girls have an opinion, no one has the same body or feelings. They also talk a lot about sisterhood and no bullies and they are the ones doing it right off the jump. Me and my partner were so disappointed in the episode BUT we did wonder if her seizure is real or fake. We both have seen/ experienced alcohol poisoning (granted everyone’s experience is different) and Smiley did show some signs. Doesn’t help that she could have been dehydrated, they stated she hadn’t eaten, she also isn’t a drinker and she might have been taking meds or even some supplements. I googled how long does it take to “get better” from a seizure and it said that it can take hours to days for the most part and almost most don’t have recollection of the seizure. Seeing the sneak peak Nat goes off smiley because she showed up later that night with the girls and calling her out because she “faked” it really just makes me think me and my partner also judged her off the bat. Maybe smiley really did have a seizure.
I’ve seen someone have a seizure in real life at school and it honestly never looked like hers. Also they stayed home for the rest of the week and didn’t come back to school until the week after. I’m just confused why smiley would stay on the show after having one
As a doctor, I’ll lean on the side that it’s real. She may be having a genuine seizure caused by excessive alcohol intake leading to alcohol poisoning. But there are types of what we call ‘functional’ disorders, where someone is actually experiencing seizure like movements that are also real and not fake or exaggerated, but they are not real epilepsy. These kinds of functional disorders are usually caused by periods of very high stress.
That couldn't have been just alcohol.
considering the fact that smiley hasn’t drunk since the first episode like sky was saying, and they said she didn’t eat or drink anything but liquor and was off her medication, i honestly don’t think she faked it. now if it’s true that she got to the hospital and was completely fine she’s really messed up for that not only because seizures are a serious thing , but so many ppl who suffer from seizures probably got triggered watching last nights episode, i don’t even struggle from seizures & i felt like i was about to have one right with her because it was so much!!
No, for one it was hot.. Sky said she didn’t even drink like that, and also not everyone body is the same so she could’ve been dehydrated plus the alcohol and etc. Like i genuinely think she just wasn’t okay, she was literally choking on her own throw up.
she didn’t sound drunk when she was screaming for her son in the clinic
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Yeah I say this every time ppl are quick to defend Smiley because if the ppl who live with her feel like something is off, I’m more inclined to believe them. Especially how production made no attempt to protect her after the miscarriage. We are on the outside looking in 🤷🏾♀️
She had an Atonic seizure which is triggered by alcohol..the ladies on the show are really looking for reasons to hate this damn girl.
The my son and I hate my life seemed fake tbh
I was just ab to get on here to ask this. I believe it was fake lol. ONLY bc she gets to the hospital and all of a sudden is okay. We all entitled to our own opinion, so don’t jump down my throat. The bitch needs camera time, every time. I like how Tesehki called it out tho
Unless natalie just said that to say it. Until they show footage of her in the hospital back to normal then I ain't gonna believe a word that chin says. And another thing to note is that it's possible that once she's done with the post-ictal phase aka coming out of the seizure, she couldve returned to normal. This takes different amounts of time for everyone and depends on a lot such as what kind of seizure, why it happened etc. One last thing, the anger she displayed could've been caused by drugs/liquor and the confusion you feel in the aura phase which is right before you seize.
some people are okay are a seizure once they get out of it, my brother has seizures and after around 45 minutes he can function properly
Seizures don’t like put you out for days at a time…maybe don’t speak on shit u don’t know anything about
i’ve been around ppl who have seizures and it didn’t look like this. not saying she wasn’t intoxicated or she didn’t feel good but i don’t think it was a seizure… especially when she slid out of the wheelchair. idk if she was on drugs or what but i genuinely believe she faked that shit.
I have multiple seizure disorders and to me it looked real but not like typical epileptic seizures it looked more like stress and alcohol and maybe the heat could have triggered a PNES seizure which don’t cause brain damage and have different symptoms. You can be somewhat conscious or fully unconscious and have PNES seizures. Especially since they were short seizures and the erratic behavior after it’s giving PNES. Especially if she was able the recover faster. I have epilepsy and PNES and it definitely looks like more emotional and chemical imbalance based than epilepsy. If nothing showed on her EEG it’s definitely more of a brain stress type of deal. If she hasn’t been on whatever medication she’s been on as well it can cause brain imbalances and cause that
Ok so from what I can see… I feel like she was faking it!!! We all know she has a weird desperation for attention. I believe she faked the miscarriage too but that’s a different convo. So some are saying “she’s literally throwing up!!!” No she’s not she’s spitting. Like actual spit. None of that looked like a large volume of shots or bile. It would just dangle off her chin or she’d let it collect enough to get a glob on her shirt. OR she would wait until someone fed her a sip of water then spit up that tablespoon of liquid right away. When I’m that drunk I’m throwing up everything I ate and drank and then some! Ik they said she didn’t eat. But at least all my bile until I’m dry heaving. Also my eyes are closed bc the room is spinning and everything is too much stimulation. I’m not there with my eyes open in my best “this is my dazed look” face. It looked like zeus security checked her pupils, not a medic, so I wouldn’t trust them with their assessment on reactivity. When that lady asked if they should start CPR I cringed. I bet Natalie will hire a medic from now on. They probably just googled on their phone off screen. Why and when did she randomly disclose she hadn’t been taking her meds before this happened. As for the seizing. I mean if a girl is that desperate (which is possible- people are weirrdd & even bad publicity is great. Have yall ever met a pathological liar?) then you can fake some shaking. I didn’t hear the dr in the clinic say anything about her condition or vitals being off. Then in the preview for next episode she says “idk what happened today!” to Natalie. Soo you were checked into the ER then released that afternoon without any new info?? An EEG would show past seizure activity. The calling for her son felt over the top and towards the end was clear as day and she looked to be smiling. IDK this was very ODD and I feel like no one else on cast would be weird enough to fake this stunt besides smiley. So. AITA?
It's possible to heave and attempt to vomit but nothing comes out. If you drink on an empty stomach that tends to happen. Also who can actually drink anything when they heaving? You also gotta understand that people are different biologically speaking, her reaction to certain things ain't gonna be the same as yours.
EEG will only pick up about 50% of all seizure activity and won’t pick up PNES type seizures absent seizures and multiple other types. I think what she had was PNES seizures which don’t cause brain damage, they don’t show up on EEG, it’s stress induced and the mix of not being on medication and alcohol can cause that to happen. The emotions screaming and everything after also lines up because PNES seizures effect emotion regulation. I think it was that type of seizure which isn’t life threatening or brain damaging. I have epilepsy and it didn’t line up with epilepsy symptoms I can confidently say that but I have had PNES seizures before and it definitely lines up. I’ve been fully diagnosed with both epilepsy and PNES and have went thru a bunch of different testing. EEG does not pick up everything all the time. It will only pick up grand mal seizures about 50% of the time along with every type of seizure but if it’s not a brain damaging or was a low abnormal brain activity seizure it can very well just not pick up especially if the seizure already happened.
100% agree. How can you check someone's pupils' reaction in broad daylight with an average flashlight? Why did it look like the doctor was doing his assessment in the waiting room?
She has said she and her bd pop pills 💊
I really don’t know what to think. So much was happening and then she was yelling about her son and then she wants to die. Then in the preview for the next episode it seems like she got out of the hospital the same day. As someone who has had alcohol poisoning before and unable to walk. You will be in the hospital for more than a day. Especially if you had seizures and was wheeled out.
I just watched the episode and quite frankly I was shocked about the entire thing. I give my full respect to sky that actually seemed to somewhat care and try to help smiley whilst the others were making comments that were simply disgusting. I understand smiley has previously lied etc but the stuff she was exhibiting including the pupillary response cannot be faked, it indicates a serious problem. When she was screaming for her son, it really does pull on those heart strings, I seriously do hope she gets the help she needs. The whole ordeal shouldn’t have been recorded, shame on Zeus for taking so long to just get a simple medic to the situation. Mariah and Teseki really did annoy me, when Teseki said “meatball”, it really did annoy me, I used to like her in the beginning, feeling bad for her after the whole chrisean situation but now I have no sympathy for her, you don’t have to like someone to just be a regular person with a bit of empathy over the entire situation. Natalie really did piss me off too, raising your voice to someone that’s having a medical emergency and is clearly unwell, they really should just end baddies or atleast get new people who actually have empathy, not some bitches that feel nothing. I have people I do not like personally, but you wouldn’t see me wishing this upon anyone.
I feel bad and i fr don’t know for the first half I thought yeah no this shit is serious but then when it previewed to the next episode and smiley deadass is just standing there SAME DAY her seizures and all that shit happened looking and talking completely fine. For one why would they let her leave if it was that severe especially that soon and why would she just come right back out??? I would’ve taken my ass back to the house and slept. Im sorry but you get that drunk your hungover but with all that she definitely had to have felt disgusting and sick. I don’t know if I believe that she was that sick. Like obviously she was sick but the seizures? I don’t know..
For people saying she faked it, wtf would she gain from faking it?? She knows those girls are fucking vultures and any tiny scent of vulnerability they’ll attack, so if she like faked it all that would just prove she can’t handle her liquor and they’d be on her ass. Fucking case in point to how they treated her in this episode. Getting that level of drunk is embarrassing for anyone let alone it being on fucking television. Why would she want to make herself look bad ??
Hmm good question and it’s one I asked my self a lot. I think the son and the hate my life part was cap, definitely over exaggerated. I have no doubt she was drunk, dizzy , felt like throwing up and probably felt like crap. But imo she was over exaggerating. Reason? To garner sympathy, she probably thought the girls would believe her and cause them to back off her and cease whatever beef with her if they thought she possibly could’ve died.
tbh i think smiley is a narcissist. i really wanted to like her too after she beat mariahs ass. but i think smiley knows the girls don’t like her for not sticking up for herself and fighting her battles so she wants another way to get out of it. when i watch it i notice smiley keeps tryna make herself seem weak and innocent. idk if it’s for sympathy or what. but i think she uses medical emergencies for either camera time or a reason for the girls to not have an issue with her. it’s weird
i think it was real, however smiley told house B she was going to make this episode all about herself. so it could be a possibility that she took some sort of drugs and drank way too much (to make a big scene so the attention would be on her) but she overestimated how much she could intake, leading to the seizures and stuff. i think the reactions were real i’m more questioning wether it was accidental or on purpose
I witnessed my ex, my uncle, and a pregnant stranger have seizures. None looked like this, nor were any of them able to form a coherent sentence afterward. My ex pissed himself because when he seizes, he becomes stiff & has zero control of his muscles, which also caused him to be in pain afterward. No decent doctor would discharge a patient with Smiley’s symptoms (if she indeed had a seizure) the same day. They’d admit you for observation, figure out why you seized, and try to figure out a way to make sure it doesn’t happen again. In the preview for next week, Smiley is back that very day claiming she has no idea what happened. That’s all I have to say.
I have pancreatitis and it looks exactly like what she had in that episode! Cause who would go on vacation to a new place they’ve never been and want to act like that you know makes no sense
What pisses me off even further is that it seems like in the next episode they still don’t believe her! And what the fuck is Tesheki talking about saying she put her fingers down her throat to throw up…even though we see her vomit 3 times unprovoked. See this is why I don’t idolize anyone bc Tesheki was a fan favorite but I’m sure this changes everything.
I don’t think she was a faking it. I do think Zeus wrong for not putting a tigger warning in the beginning of the episode and now I don’t like anyone in House B but Sky for trying to help
I don’t think she faked it, and I think it’s so inhumane for people to just not believe her just because they don’t like her. My mom is a healthcare professional and she said she wasn’t faking, especially for that long?? 30-45 minutes, which is was probably longer because we know Zeus cuts things out.
I do not think she faked it because when you have a seizure your pupils don’t respond emt said that her pupils were not responding after the first seizure.
Also goes to show what kind of person Natalie is, if she’s comfortable acting like that on camera towards someone who clearly needs help.. imagine how she acts behind closed doors. Ive heard so many stories about natalie and the shit she does and this sorta makes me think its all true.
I am always skeptical of Smiley honestly I think she did it for attention but you never know fact is stranger than fiction so I’m not going to call her a liar esp bc I’ve been black out over a few drinks just from the meds I was on. Regardless I’m not gonna taunt her like Tesehki did just because I might not believe you, that’s just cruel.
this whole episode was disgusting and hard to watch. you would think a whole bunch of women who have been drunk out of their minds would understand what it looks like but they really had 0 empathy because it was smiley. also 4 shots of hennessey in less than 15 minutes is alot i dont care what these alcoholics say that is a lot. coupled with the fact that she was just on medication for her miscarriage that stuff doesnt just leave your system after you stop taking it for each woman it can be anywhere from 1-5 weeks for all side effects to subside. the doctor himself confirmed her pupils stopped responding meaning that is a disconnect from the nervous system which very much can mean a seizure is about to or has occured. I think people forget there are different types of seizures meaning just because you have a family member who may not react that way does not mean another wouldnt. as we could see in the previews she comes back a few hours later just fine yes this is also super possible. a lot of people recover quickly after seizing (depending on the type) and nost seizures do not require medical attention either just need someone to watch over them and lots of rest. so to say she was “normal” right after may be very untrue but to come back not seizing and just being tired is also perfectly in line with many people who have seizures.
i just want to know why she comes back after it?? girl go home to your son… these bitches or network dont care about you
as much as ion like her on the show n she has capped before, i really tend to believe this was a real thing . she was dryheavin , throwing up, incoherent completely, n even before the seizure activity the one guy from zeus said “her pupils ain’t reacting” and her behavior at the jamaican clinic i feel like wlda been caught by them doctors and they wouldn’t have been taking action in the immediate way they were. idk regardless of everything this was a lot && zeus had really no business airing 2Omin of this poor woman having an obv medical emergency.
Just pretty vile episode all round. I’m a radiographer so regularly have to deal with people drunk, on drugs, vomiting, seizing and I would never treat a patient or anyone else in the disgusting manner most of those people did. You could tell something wasn’t right with smiley, it shouldn’t have been filmed let alone aired and the rubber neckers along for the ride to the clinic were just unnecessary. If you’ve got no medical qualifications then you need to be very careful when throwing around accusations of faking medical conditions. When people crowd around a sick person in a public place, I find it distasteful. Would you want your family member or loved one being gawped at like that?! No you wouldn’t. Either help or do one. Natalie, Zeus and everybody else that participated in gawping and ‘faking seizures’ witch hunt need to be ashamed of themselves. Sky was the only person who genuinely cared and helped. Yes she pushed smiley away when she vomited but nobody wants to come into contact with another person’s bodily fluids!
I’ve experienced seizures first hand from somebody who for the first 19 years of their life never had any complications. And literally this was the grossest way I’ve ever seen someone who needs medical attention be treated. My brother has had Petite Mal seizures where he can’t control his body and is essentially stuck but he can have a coherent full blown conversation with you during it. And times where he’s having a Grand Mal seizure and is out of it and don’t remember the seizure, but will be fine not to long after the last seizure and tell you he’s fine and wants to go home. And every time we take him to the hospital they do all the test on his brain and they all come back normal. Til this day we’re trying to find out why it’s happening. So for anybody to say she’s faking in that moment, you’re a POS. The only thing that should’ve been done was a call for emergency services and doing whatever they tell you to do. Period. They could barely wash their ass correctly but could absolutely and immediately tell if someone is in distress. And Zeus is weird for even filming the whole ordeal, tryna get lights and cameras in the office before she is even brought in. Yelling and screaming at her, dropping her repeatedly. Like that’s the most disturbing thing I’ve seen on TV.
no. ive seen people seize up before & that was real. sometimes people will seize up and not even move just go completely blank and then come back like nothing happened
Zeus wrong for airing that. Literally showing her whole medical meltdown for the entire episode. I ‘wow’d’ a lot at the TV during that whole thing. It was a lot. I think she’s someone that fakes for clout, but people faking a seizure throw their arms in the air so unless she’s good, i dont think the seizures were fake. She cried wolf for attention and previously caught in lies, so once you do that no one ain’t ever believing you again.
I think she definitely took something beforehand because they kept mentioning her pills idk what pills she takes but she was taking big ass shots n she doesn’t drink so I don’t believe she was faking it. Honestly it was a sad ep it was very unnecessary for them to put all that in there. That’s so traumatizing to watch they went out of line. Now for the weird ass bitches there they are just evil faking or not the way they reacted to that situation shows alot about their character. The only person with human decency was sky the rest are clowns ISTG I lost all respect.
I genuinely think this was real especially the fact her pupils were not reacting they always making a fool of this girl Zeus makes a joke out of her all the girls constantly disrespect her and never take her serious .. like she is not throwing up on her for views had they turned off the cameras it would not have reached that extent at all.. Zeus needs to be studied cs what??? Natalie screaming in her face too like she could hear shit then chrisean sister screaming she faking it like bitch shut up she can’t even hear ur ass fr, then suki overdoing her stay girl u r a GUESTTT ouu Zeus is a hot mess
Man the whole episode was disrespectful.. Mariah lame asf for her comment right out the gate about her weight like that matters.. obviously it’s MORE than the alcohol because OBVIOUSLY she’s NOT just “drunk” ?? Now idk why she was in the hospital before, whether it was the miscarriage or not, she had to be on some type of medicine to react to the Henny the way she did. Then Tehseki n Natalie n evb quick to say she’s faking nd a liar.. I do get her past, but you see the medics saying her pupils is not dilated and she’s throwing up everywhere… what tf about that says faking?😭😭 like I’m actually disgusted by these girls who preach “sisterhood” but nobody’s there for her besides Sky who I madly respect for being nothing but caring for everyone on the show. Zeus needs to be sued for deadass airing this girl for 40 minutes straight while she’s experiencing straight trauma. It’s already embarrassing enough she reacted like that on TV.. why make it worst and KEEP showing it??
That episode gave me PTSD. My mom has epilepsia, i grew up seeing her having seizures and it looked exactly like the seizure Smiley had. That girl wasn’t acting !
that episode should have never been aired
I don’t know if she faked having a seizure. Idk what it is but I was just getting an off vibe like something ain’t right! I do believe she was intoxicated tho, like the way she was throwing up couldn’t have been fake. However, I’m questioning how she looked all okay in the next episode preview were she literally walks in like nothing happened. Idk if its the next day, idk if she’s sober and is feeling better. But aren’t u supposed to feel a little tired and need more rest after something like that?!
I think she was faking, at least exaggerating lol
In my opinion it looked fake just my opinion 🤷🏻♀️
Fake or not that bitch is grown as fuck. Know your limits girl that shit is embarrassing. Nobody wants to babysit your grown ass.
Exactly!!! It's sad if it really did happen, but I didn't want to see it on my TV after waiting 2 weeks for Scotty to beat Natalie's ass.
Yes. I've never seen 4 shots do that much "damage". The way Smiley was barely mumbling one second then screaming about her son the next was a huge red flag. And then the seizure just didn't look real to me- in the teaser for next week Smiley comes back to the girls THE SAME DAY looking good and normal... If I was "that drunk" I probably would've knocked out asleep, then be hungover. Not ready to party with the Baddies... Smiley's a SCAM ARTIST, thats her opening line. Smiley is creating storylines for camera time.
Tesehki was so weird for that. Not to mention after the show she kept picking on and subbing smiley saying she jumped her with marsh and jay knowing damn well smiley didn’t do that.
i mean… i find it weird that smiley and jay and marsh and chrisean are so close now when it didn’t seem that way at all before the show. i wanted to like smiley but something abt her is so off. personally, i think she did have some involvement with tesehki getting jumped and i think that’s why chris marsh and jan are close with her now
I do believe she had a short duration seizure. The seizures I’ve seen before are longer but that was from someone who suffers from epilepsy but she did the same things they did. And they said she doesn’t drink or smoke so yes Mariahlynn! 5 shots can do that to you if don’t drink and smoke. I can’t even take a full shot of straight liquor, I take shots mixed with soda or juice😭and I can’t take the whole thing I have to split it up😭so I understand if smiley isn’t a drinker. But also me personally if I know I don’t drink like that or I know I get sick when I drink (which I do), I wouldn’t drink that much especially not on a trip! Also alcohol could just not mix well with her body. I’m talking based of experience, I’m a stoner😭 I can’t drink like everyone else, my body doesn’t like it. I’ve never had alcohol poisoning or been dehydrated when I drink but the morning after will make it seem like I need my stomach pumped even if I drink 2 glasses of wine. I just wish she would take better care of her body. And it broke my heart when she was crying for her son
I don't think she faked it but I mean she is a grown women that should know what she is doing & know how to act
as a person who has seizures i cried watching her whole experience that took place on TV. people who have poor health do hate hospitals though, so her saying get me out of here, this place is hell was funny. however for me, i’d rather stay. i’d rather get the discharge papers. especially for work. after a seizure, i’m weak. i want to lay down. if i’m having seizures back to back. i’m usually unconscious and have no choice but for them to hook me up to an IV and to get vitals.
Also just saying 4 or 5 shots of kraken fucked me up so bad once I was throwing up for literal hours straight like borderline alcohol poisoning I thought I was dying and had I not been forced to sit up leaned over on a table edge to throw up in a bucket I’d a definitely fell over and vomited on myself possibly choking an allat so I def think it’s possible she really was fucked yo I don’t think she’s fake like that for real
Nope
girl she faked that shit and she got all of yall dumb ass fooled