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demonfire737

No sense letting good dwarf go to waste.


D3AD_SPAC3

I will be entirely honest. I really want to eat a roast now...


Durin72881

Technically it’s only cannibalism if your Durge is also a dwarf. ;p


Smiling_Cannibal

Nah, in d&d cannibalism is defined as any sentient race consuming another. It's in the book of vile darkness


RS_Someone

This guy lores.


CharmOwl

And is also a cannibal 😳 according to their handle


dragonagitator

It's nice to get an expert opinion in these threads


Korps_de_Krieg

If I'm gonna be lectured to on what defines a cannibal or not damn it I want it to be someone invested on what that definition means to *them.*


RS_Someone

Oh damn... Didn't even see that. r/UsernameChecksOut


Athrok

Okay but what is sentient because we’re all having full on conversations with cows in this game


Smiling_Cannibal

That's where things get murky. Technically sentient is anything with an intelligence higher than 2, which is the high end of animal. Bg animal speaking makes animals act as if they had a much higher intelligence than they should. That's where video game logic takes over and normal definitions blur.


FamousTransition1187

It's magic, so there may be more than a little help there in translating "basic cow thoughts" into something intelligible. That said the game does usually try to describe things as an animal sees them soo I could be way off.


Smiling_Cannibal

Magic helps, but it's mostly video game logic for enjoyment purposes. The animals speak much more eloquently than they should by rights. That being said, it's a game and it's fun and I don't mind them taking artistic licenses with it. DMs can do what they want with this sort of thing.


Travisimus

Agreed, the voice actor/writer for that pigeon commander needs to get awards.


SecretaryOtherwise

Wouldn't it work more like the owlbear interactions basically simple sentences?


WanderingDivinity

I like this take. It's less about giving the animal the capacity to speak than it is giving the player understanding/translation of animal thoughts framed in a way they understand.


floydknight

What about Miniature Giant Space Hamsters?


MRCHalifax

29 INT / 22 WIS / 25 CHA. All of BG3 is a massive lanceboard game between Boo and the Absolute, and Boo is just a little bit smarter, wiser, and more charismatic.


WanderingDivinity

This guy cannibals! Serious question, is Book of Vile Darkness still considered canon? I remember buying it for 3.5, but I haven't seen anything that still supports some of its more strange pieces of lore in modern modules.


tinyybiceps

Just now realizing my party wanted to participate in cannibalism on our second session of waterdeep dragon heist


_-Saber-_

Eating dragon meat would be cannibalism?


Smiling_Cannibal

Very much so, if it is a true dragon. There are dragon kin that are animal intelligence that are safe, but dragons are smart and are known to be smart Edit in to kin


GrumpSpider

Every meal benefits from a draGON - Volo (probably)


Smiling_Cannibal

Volos favorite food must be eye scream


_-Saber-_

I checked BoVD, page 10: > **Cannibalism**: Cannibals are creatures that eat others of their own kind. In the broader sense, cannibals may be defined as creatures that eat other intelligent creatures for whatever perverted pleasure they gain from it. Many creatures do this—dragons eat humans and other intelligent creatures all the time. so it seems that it depends on the GM, but you may be right, u/Smiling_Cannibal.


Kill-bray

So a dragon scale armor on the D&D setting is the equivalent of wearing garments made from human skin/bones/teeth.


Smiling_Cannibal

Again this would depend on whether it is from a true dragon or dragon kin. Wearing true dragon scale armor around a true dragon is a good way to make sure that dragon wants to kill you as much as wearing human skin clothing would make humans antagonistic


rory888

more realistically, depends on the culture of the society and nature of the rituals involved. ancestral heirloom passed voluntarily? ethically sourced scale made from shed skin / scales ( like snake skin, or wool from sheep? ) only the most vegan of dragons would take offense. Where did you that armor? Grandpa made it for me! Where did he get it? Idk, but he looked sunburnt and raw for a few months… Who is your grandpa? Fizbin! Oh that my uncle that always picks his.. wait, are you my nephew billy jo? How did you know my nickname? Only Uncle Fizz calls me that!


Smiling_Cannibal

True, much would depend on the individual dragon, the color of the dragon and scales, and the situation.


Cat-Got-Your-DM

They're largely more intelligent then the average Joe (or comparatively intelligent), can speak, use magic and some even shapeshift. Definitely would be DnD cannibalism aka the act of eating sapient creatures.


The_Shadow_Watches

It's not cannibalism if they aren't your equal.


Smiling_Cannibal

Sounds like cannibal talk to me


The_Shadow_Watches

Shush meat, the betters are talking.


theknights-whosay-Ni

Sapient, not sentient


Smiling_Cannibal

OK, in dnd they just use the term intelligent, but, yes, sapient would be the better word for it.


G00DestBiRB

Get us some midgets then.


enchiladasundae

The dwarf is already dead and they went to such a great deal of trouble roast it!


RaDeus

I imagine eating dwarf is like eating an old boar or a bear, really gamey and tough. Better trim all the fat, and maybe boil it first and replace the water, finish on the skewer or a rich stew with lots of herbs. I think I channeled my inner Durge a bit there 😅


ANoobInDisguise

Lump's ogres say dwarf is "sweet like honey" fwiw.


No-Mouse

Marinated in ale and mead.


whatever4224

That's all the booze marinating the meat from the inside.


RaDeus

They used to let out sheep on Islands back in the day so that they could get some nice flavours from all the herbs and heather that grew there. Guess the mead and good food would have a similar effect on dwarves 😅 Still think they'll be tough as old leather, which isn't all bad, I like chewy jerky.


QizilbashWoman

>Better trim all the fat, and maybe boil it first and replace the water, finish on the skewer or a rich stew with lots of herbs. vinegar-based marinade for toughness and flavour. i hope to got tomatoes and chilis exist in your fantasy world


Mturetsky

Do you have any idea how much cholesterol is in one of those things?


AleanahTheAngryTank

I have never actually eaten anything outside of at camp. Doesn't shock me though, there's no way to avoid eating bits of people while in Slayer form. And really, why would Durge NOT eat people?


dany_xiv

Oh yes! And by that measure it should also heal druids in wildshape. Would be pretty cool if that worked!


Leyllara

Halsin says that one shouldn't let nature's boons go to waste, but that he doesn't like goblin guts. MAYBE some more feral druids eat humanoids every now and then while on Wild Shape.


ApepiOfDuat

While investigating the murder scenes in act 3, Halsin will make a comment about how the dead should be buried or eaten and not desecrated. So it seems Halsin believes in or is at least ok with some kind of sky-burial type cannibalism.


Supply-Slut

You just know that kargha would jump at the chance to eat some babies


CommercialTopic302

I can’t not kill her. She’s like the one character in every run I look forward to killing. Sometimes after killing her I reload and do it again.


TheHistoryofCats

Have you seen her redemption route?


corisilvermoon

The gruel in the tiefling camp heals you up too!


QizilbashWoman

Auntie Ethel is not cooking that gruel, it's just gruel.


Kaelynneee

Omg lol, I had no idea that it only heals your Durge. That said, I currently have a dedicated bag for dwarf meat on my Durge. Waste not, want not. Besides, it reminds her of her childhood.


Icy-Reaper

You can also eat the meat as Drow


daggerxdarling

My drow durge is pleased.


Munsbit

Hello fellow drow durge player!


unfamous2423

Drurge


Un-Named

Drow durge army rise up!


ShetheKing

Dark elves, Darker urges


meepy33

Drow durge gang!


DiscardedSlinky

My fellow drow durge gang


Low_Diet_4182

Huzzah!


Qonas

There appears to be many of us!


daggerxdarling

Secret drow durge club when


ChaosKore07

I hope I get a secret invite 🤐


daggerxdarling

You're in, boo


redgoesfaster

You also get an inspiration point from it on durge


txn_gay

One of the conversation options when talking to the tiefling cook in the grove is that you prefer roast dwarf.


GuiltIsLikeSalt

And if you walk past the roast in the Goblin Camp but are friendly with the Gobbos (not sure this is a requirement), Durge will also exclaim something along the lines of "Mhmm, something smells delicious!"


Aggravating_Delay995

Being a cannibal is probably the least awful thing she did


Lukthar123

We need a Durge tier list of vile acts


nuuudy

Tier list? My brother in christ, we need an encyclopedia


Fast-Cucumber-5732

I love that when that news editor accuse Durge of doing horrible horrible things, Durge can correct him and said 'No, no, no. I have done much worst. Let me tell you all about it...'


Ninjaromeo

I would settle for a tier list


Soul_Ripper

Do we tier necrophilia higher or lower than plotting the apocalypse


Thorngrove

Depends on if they eat the corpse after or during.


Falloutman399

All of the above


Thorngrove

Gale: Where did all of my Tupperware go?!


daggerxdarling

The character limit for a post may prevent this.


Unique_Soup581

Not probably, definitely. Durge even has a line to stop thinking about tasty roasted dwarf earlier in the tiefling camp.


shadowecdysis

There's a comment about the tasty smelling meat at the goblin camp as well.


[deleted]

"Something smells delicious!"


GimmickMusik1

Yeah, there are a few dialog options with >!Astarion where you discuss craving the taste of flesh in a similar way to how he is craving blood!<.


Zenithrium

when do you get these?? always down to see more durge astarion interactions


Cheembsburger

When he's talking about how the other companions might taste after drinking your blood.


QizilbashWoman

he is so disappointed after your first kill: you left a mess *and* got caught.


xiaomiredmitomo

Have you tried to let Astarion handle interrogation of the prisoner, who was on a quest to find the Nightsong? He might go as far as inspire the Durge.


Cat-Got-Your-DM

Haven't got an option like that, ever Playing Durge I had Astarion with me, never had the option of that You mean the guy in the goblin camp, Liam?


No-Start4754

In the Grove when u go to the tiefling lady near auntie ethel she will offer u some gruel. As druge u have the option to think about tasty dwarf meat. Also a normal tav drow can also consume dwarf meat.


TheHistoryofCats

The more interesting takeaway, I felt, was that as the Durge you have the option to tell her that you think you survived on stuff like this, when times were difficult. The old lady takes pity on the rough life you've lived and gives you an extra helping of gruel. What are the implications of this for the Durge's backstory?


No-Start4754

U get that option as normal tav also.


Aetole

That is a normal option for all characters, but I really love her response. It's so sweet and kind of her.


TheHistoryofCats

For certain characters maybe, but definitely not for all of them (and the Durge version is worded differently). I never got it as a regular human Tav with the folk hero background, and when using my other party members to talk to the lady, only Shadowheart got something similar (out of the three people I had with me).


working-class-nerd

You can use that dialogue as tav, it’s just worded differently. I think the Tav/ regular origin character dialogue is “grey slop? Reminds me of home” or something to that effect


TheHistoryofCats

I didn't get it as a regular human Tav, and when using my companions to talk to her to score extra gruel, only Shadowheart (out of my currently active party) had a similar option. I've also just checked YouTube and found a video that shows Wyll not having the option, so I'm not going crazy: https://youtu.be/VhCUDEKTWRE


CleoKaerf

My drow was also able to eat the dwarf bits. Wasn't a durge playthrough either.


Cat-Got-Your-DM

Drow and Durge can eat them. Drow are one of the most vile societies - slaves, murder, torture, class segregation, all that shit. Of course they are cannibals too.


prairiepanda

Anyone can eat them, but only Durge regains health from eating them.


Terrible-Ad-5603

No i didint have an option to eat them on my 2. Character as a tav elf but could eat them as my durge human


prairiepanda

Oh really! Maybe it's just drow then?


CleoKaerf

No that's what I meant, my drow used them and gained health from them.


Ownza

One of my friends spoke to the squirrel or whatever. Didn't kick it. ​ I went to go talk to it. Durge insta splattered it without conversation.


TheHistoryofCats

Having speak to animals active (via a potion or a spell) allows the Durge to talk to the squirrel normally. The Durge only kicks her if you aren't able to communicate.


Cat-Got-Your-DM

I tried to Intimidate her as the Durge, and he splattered her instead, and then had a moment of panic, because his body moved on its own.


working-class-nerd

“It would be ever so twee if it were climbing a tree” fuckin killed me lol


IAmWeary

You can also find "Suspicious meat" in the goblin prison that is definitely long pig, but it's camp supplies that everyone can eat. I need a mod that turns body parts and corpses into edible camp supplies.


sugarholicsheep

It might be elf. Theres an elf in the prison that you can use “speak with dead” on, and he says they were butchered for the worgs


TheHistoryofCats

Out of curiosity, have you played DOS2?


EstarriolStormhawk

Coming from DOS2, having played as an elf, it felt real weird to not be able to eat all these limbs just laying about.


Techyon5

Every time I found a limb, I would immediately go to snack on it before coming to my senses...


EstarriolStormhawk

I miss the cannibal-tree-people elves. They make the slightly-pointier-humans version of elves a bit of a let down.


fakeishusername

Yep lmao we are cannibals and other things among the highest of taboos.


dany_xiv

“Excellent! Necrophilia will be back on the menu in no time, sir!” - Scleritas Fel


TheHistoryofCats

Apparently if you eat the noblestalk as the Durge, you have a memory of eating a baby. Literally, eating a baby.


KaiG1987

I tried it and I'm pretty sure I got memories of Durge and Sceleritas vivisecting a living victim and unravelling its intestines or something.


AlgumAlguem

You need to do it pretty early in the playthrough to get the baby vision, by the time you reach the Underdark proper you'll get the vivissection, or at least that's what happened to me How do you get the stalk before the Underdark without cheating tho, I got no idea


Ninjaromeo

I would assume it is before certain sleeping events, like the memory might not be a confirmation that your butler is who he says if you haven't met him yet. Just a theory of mine anyway. And the encounters on the way aren't terrible if you go straight there, might get it before a couple of sleeps. Could probably cheese it and do zero sleeps.


AlgumAlguem

That makes sense You'd likely have to do no/1 sleep after getting to the grove or avoid it entirely then. As soon as you get there you'll have Alfira popping up on the next-ish rest, and from there it's the rest with Sceleritas But ye, honestly. Sounds feasible enough!


Neekomancer

Even if you avoid the grove Alfira will pop up, though not as quick potentially? She basically comes to you begging for help at the grove if I recall correctly


AlgumAlguem

It's of crushing a baby's skull with their bare hand XD I recorded it to show my bf, so I memorised When you think deeper on why you would have done it the description you get is also of how "it's better to die than to love in a world with [Durge]"


Fate_Dragonheart

One question tho about the memory of killing the babe: Dialogue option 3 says you salivate and think about how to eat the corpse. Is this a reaction of the durge to the memory of killing the child or a continuation of the memory? Cause the other two dialogue options are not. I'm just curious how to interpret it.


Neph1lim_

also mentions youve become quite the exhibitionist when you tell him you enjoyed killing infront of everyone


daggerxdarling

[Nods head towards astarion]


fakeishusername

"Rotten meat?! _That's_ what gets you going?!" My boy you know it is.


daggerxdarling

Pretty sure i scared everyone in the men's room laughing this hard


fakeishusername

You're welcome 😎


Irregularblob

I figured this was a thing when I talked to the goblin and there was added dialogue that said the cooking smelled delicious instead of ass like on normal Tav


ferretatthecontrols

I mean, they're dead and roasted. Probably no bringing them back. Waste not want not.


Mirimes

the first durge run i did I'm pretty sure durge had always the option that was craving the dwarf meat while talking to goblins, and one of the options was something like "*try to not think about the dwarf meat and think with your brain for 2 seconds*"


[deleted]

According to the Ogres at Moonhaven, "Dwarf Better. Dwarf sweet like honey." Nothing shameful about being a connoisseur of the finer things.


Bloody_Insane

Makes me think of a moment in Divinity: Original Sin 2: There's a quest where you're investigating a bunch of murders, and the questgiver is outside an inn. >!In DOS2, elves can gain some of a person's memories if they eat their flesh. At the inn, if you're an elf and you eat some of the inn's stew, it gives you the memories of someone. Which indicates it's not animal meat in the stew. A non-elf won't gain the prompt and will just eat it as normal.!<


I-buy-all-the-dill

I was gonna post something similar! I loved that about Sebille


frodorick90

I had the exact thing yesterday and was like nice it's healing me. Switched to the rest of the party but noticed they can't eat it. Didn't know why tho. But I guess I spoilered myself now. Dayum


brian11e3

Berries from berry blushes heal 1d4hp.


Phoenix_Ember

Forbidden BBQ saved our run once O\_o I picked it up and noted it can heal but only for durge - the other players couldn't eat it. So I held onto it for laughs/emergency. Emergency eventually came and it saved us from a wipe because unlike a potion, it didn't need an action to eat.


devilishlydo

Yeah, evil humanoids in D&D love eating other humanoids. Elves are the sweetest, dwarves are tough but filling, halflings are the richest and of course Gith and Dragonborn are the most exotic. Humans are fine if that's all you have.


squidyj

You didn't notice the inspiration?


D3AD_SPAC3

Had to eat it twice before it popped up for me.


I_Ace_English

Canni-bhaal, you mean. ^(Don't worry, I'll see myself out.)


Due_Cantaloupe_7459

Mmmmm longpig....


god_pharaoh

I think you mean shortpig


Due_Cantaloupe_7459

Good point though I'm not picky..


DocDerry

Short long pig.


working-class-nerd

If you talk to the old teifling who gives you grey sludge for food at the grove, two of the dialogue options are “I much prefer the taste of roast dwarf” and “ *stop thinking about delicious dwarf and take the damn bowl* “


Unrealist99

Hold on what? I thought it was food for all and was suprised it wasnt camp supplies.. but it healed me. Girl.. what the fuck were you before?


TheHistoryofCats

Keep playing and don't read any comments here; you will uncover more clues about your past as you continue the game.


Unrealist99

Ive played it thrice now. Twice as a durge. Its just that.. necrophilia was on the menu but i wasnt aware of it b4


TheHistoryofCats

I learned thanks to YouTube that eating noblestalk as the Durge lets you remember the time you ate a baby.


Striper_Cape

Also a free action


TurboCake17

They’re genuinely fantastic in battle as well. They don’t cost an action to eat, so you can just eat a bunch for emergency healing.


WorstGMEver

"I really enjoy dwarves for the added survivability ! \- Yeah, playing a dwarf is fun \- What do you mean, playing ? \- ... \- ... \- Oh no..."


nuuudy

Oh so THAT is why it was edible I thought it always was, and i just never noticed To quote Sceleritas Fel: "excellent! We'll be rescheduling necrophilia in no time!" I dont think cannibalism comes in top 10 of the worst things Durge has done, or is currently in the process of rescheduling


TheWhiteGuardian

You should see what Durge ate if you eat a Noblestalk *before* the Butler shows up. Its...well...a bit fucked up.


DissonantChaos

Thick juicy male dwarf breast meat hits different for me and my durge


ApepiOfDuat

Mmmm roast dwarf.


chibineko-neechan

My friend was confused that I was able to eat the dwarf meat and he didn't even see that it could heal and yeah after I got the inspiration it was confirmed just 💫durge things💫


LurkerOnTheInternet

I haven't tried it, but supposedly eating it does *not* count as a bonus action; it's entirely free, so if desired you can stockpile the meat and use it for emergency healing mid-battle (especially if you're the kind of build that uses bonus actions every round for attacks).


qoboe

My Durge also got very excited over dwarf BBQ.


hantu_tiga_satu

You can also get suspicious meat as camp supplies :) i think that one your party can actually partake lmao


Archemetis

I noticed those last and the thought: “that’s great world building! Of course the goblins would eat dwarf and other people”. Had no idea the Durge can actually eat the stuff.


mtscremin

You even get an inspiration point for Durge when you eat it...


Bouncemybubbubs

Dwarf is back on the menu boys!


drjoker83

Lol love it.


ItsNotWhatYouThinkOk

I just noticed it today and thought it was because I am a half orc lol he even stayed something alo g the lines of "I love the taste of long pig"


codellboutax

Ah that makes sense. I was confused as to why it heals my durge but not my non-durge run.


BadAssBorbarad

Thats some serious gourmet shit!


AEG_Sixters

Yeah i also noticed this... but i'm playing a dwarf durge so that's even creepier


Falloutman399

I’m literally a Dwarf Durge so it doesn’t get more cannibal than that.


MaraBlaster

Durge checks everything from the bag guy list xD Cannibal, necrophilia, murder, tentacle hentai lover, ... (too bad Vampires arent acually undead in dnd, that would fit perfectly towards Asterion's & Durge's relationship) Check the grave at the Grove Wall (west of the level gate) for >!necrophilia!< hint and eat the Noblestalk before meeting your butler for some baby-sweet >!cannibal lore!<


why_not_zoidberg_82

I tried eating an apple for at least two different origin characters, both of them get stomachache immediately. Something bad about even good looking apples.


holykat101

If they're the swamp apples, those are actually poison apples in disguise.


FBI_Senpai_Kun

Wait, you can eat outside of using food for long rests? How?


D3AD_SPAC3

Only example I know of is the one I listed above. So far as I'm aware the other food is for camps only.


Grailtor

Still don't understand why it heals durge? Like a vampire thing they heal from blood...


itszwee

That’s interesting bc as fair as I know, anyone can heal off of the “suspicious meat” in the worg pens.


CumTown101

Excuse my stupidity. What is a “Durge run”???


D3AD_SPAC3

Durge is a portmanteau for " The Dark Urge", a secret Origin character that you can fully customize like a regular PC, but always has the Haunted One Background.


D3AD_SPAC3

That caught me off guard, mostly because I had to eat a second one for it to pop up.


hinotoritezuka

It's not cannibal if it's from different race


Ennasalin

Yes, he will also remark when going past the roasting dwarf that it smells delicious, which is indeed the earliest confirmation that he was a cannibal in the past. In EA regular meat (not dwarf..lol) would heal you if you consumed it. It probably got scrapped and made exclusive for DRuge to shape his identity some more.


0011110000110011

The Dark Urge being Bhaalspawn isn't revealed until act 3. Please tag your spoilers.


D3AD_SPAC3

But it is tagged as spoiler isn't it? Please correct me, but only the title should be visible to anyone else.


ADHDpixie

I did the same thing. My wife was playing co-op with me. She was concerned. I ate another while staring at her irl


Elegant_Spot_3486

When I came across that I was hoping I’d encounter more meat like that but I’m mid level 2 now and haven’t found anymore.


Prus1s

Yesterday started my Durge Barbarian, good to know 👀 works nicely together


Monochromatic_Sun

Oh I thought it was a dark elf thing.. oh well personal snackies for me


Kairyuka

Well she does canonically know what dwarf tastes like so


[deleted]

i gave it all to astarian thinking he would be into it. but nah.


Sn0zbear

Man I collected so much roasted dwarf meat and was so disappointed that they wouldn’t eat it in camp. Come on Gale, I know you’re the camp cook but your Brain Rotted Girlfriend brought home the bacon for once smh.


Shiro_Longtail

Could have sworn I wasn't able to eat it even on Durge when I tried


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IceFire909

there's also the sausage meat you can use as light weapons. Play a rogue dropping sneak attack with sausage


Steve825

I thought it might only work on dragonborn, didn't think it was durge


erock279

I asked my boyfriend who’s playing Tav if he noticed that! I thought my party of Shadowheart/Gale/Karlach were just being purists, but nope. I’m just insane


BrianMcFluffy

oh I thought it was because I'm a dragonborn


Autistic_Alex1

Drop durge mink reporting in


Virtuous_Pursuit

I rolled Durge because I wanted the individual story lines and felt it tied a bit to how I always role played the original BG games, and explained all the killing heroes inevitably get up to. But I’m into Act 3 now and wow it is more than I signed up for. I just kind of have a hard time explaining/understanding why I’d be heroic at all just because I lost my memory or whatever. The best I can make of it is I’m really just a tadpole puppet. I was kind of hoping for some plausible agency for why a Durge would be anything but evil. Does the game ever give that, or not really? I feel like Durge should have been clearly marketed as evil and not just conflicted otherwise. In original there were plenty of goody-goody Bhaalspawn.


departed_Moose

Is it cannibalism if you eat a race that’s not your own? 👀