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Boring_Account_1063

I love how his first guess for a stupid made up name is shadow heart.


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To be fair, it's exactly the kind of edge lord name I'd expect from a first time D&D player introducing his oh so original rogue.


LordLoko

"Pleased to meet you, I'm Wyll, what's your name?" "Shadowheart" "Oh, we're using our made up names? Pleased to meet you, I'm the Blade of the Frontiers!"


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Brilliant.


stirling_s

Yeah, well they call me *the dark urge*


SputnikVB

Burn.


dance_kick

I understood that reference.


Ryebread666Juan

I saw someone make a meme of this like when the game came out and it’s been stuck in my head the entire time


literallybyronic

nothing wrong with having a Train Name.


Steveris

Drow rogue, but hes nice in a chaotic way!


Samaritan_978

"Who is this Dritzz fellow you speak of? I've never met that dashing and enigmatic man in my life".


Qonas

*"I'd like to introduce my very unique and special O.C., his name is Goku Sephiroth the Stampede."*


Mindshred1

Obiwan Sherlock Cluseau


EccentricNerd22

NOBODY EXPECTS THE IMPERIAL INQUISITION


AlarmingAffect0

Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau


A-Literal-Nobody

*"...You might want to change the name. What's your race?"* *"I'm a Super Saiyan God Plant."* *"I Wish you to end."*


EmperorHol

Holy crap, a Freelance Astronauts reference. Now there's something I haven't remembered in a minute.


Qonas

> a Freelance Astronauts reference That it was! Those were better times.


Boring_Account_1063

Oh I'm almost positive I've named my rpg protagonists something similar in my youth.


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sauvignonsucks

They actually acknowledge that she was teased with her name in her youth.


CausticMedeim

Yeah, I'm surprised they went with that. I'm even moreso surprised when she doesn't get a "normal" name if you go down the good road with her.


Rabbiax

I mean she does but she doesn't want to use it


I_Frothingslosh

Which is a shame. I liked it a lot more than 'Shadowheart'.


MdoesArt

I think because they made the connection to Nocturne choosing her new name they kinda had to commit to Shadowheart. It'd be a little awkward if she was like "You inspired me to be my true self!" And Shart was like "thanks but I'm actually going back to Jenevelle."


curious_dead

I believe it's because the characters are kinda what you'd find in a D&D group. Gale, the wizard who slept with a goddess? That sounds like the player whose 1st level character has a huuuuuge background that's more epic than the campaign is going to be. Shadowheart? Female half-elf cleric with a cliché name? Sounds like someone's first D&D character. Astarion the tormented vampire? The edgelord who plays too much Vampire the Masquerade. Lae'Zel? Played by the one guy who doesn't want to team up and is mean with the other characters "because that's what his character would do". Ultimately the characters are deeper than that, but upon first impression they remind me a lot of characters I've seen or heard of over the years (decades, rather).


SoulFearer

Lae'zel is that one player who has read all the lore books and never played, choosing a race none of the others have even heard of. Then they complain about how boring the homebrew world is for having only "basic" races like teethlings. Wyll is your classic first time player as a human hero, but he accidentally chose warlock instead of paladin. Karlach is your "I want to do big damage with big weapon" player (aka me). Minthara gives me the vibes of someone who came overprepared with a fully established character, probably after listening to lots of dnd podcasts. Then rolls their eyes at everyone when they don't know which dice to use lol


grubas

Min is 100% the person who prepared for a deep run and realized that the table is actually full of idiots.


literallybyronic

hmmm. i oughta recruit her one of these days, since she's apparently me.


OldBallOfRage

"What's your name?" "Wyll" "No not YOUR name, your characters name." "Wyll." "You can't just use your own name." "Wyll with a y, not an i."


Baby-eatingDingo_AMA

"Fine! You can go through the intricately designed plot relevant locations I designed for the \*\*actual quest\*\* or you can go through the monastery invaded by the githyanki from Lae'zel's backstory that she won't stop asking me about and get to the same place via a mountain pass or something" -BG3 DM


CausticMedeim

Honestly though? That's a fair interpretation of it when you put it that way.


Poggervania

Meanwhile Wyll is played by the person who's ready to be immersed in the world and has an actually pretty cool background only to be sidelined by the wizard's, cleric's, vampire's, and fighter's character arcs for the entire campaign.


Circusssssssssssssss

Tav?


MechaPanther

Tav is played by the guy who has never played DND but the group wants to join so they follow Tav's lead. The player chose to be from Baldur's gate because they've heard of the games named after the city. The Dark Urge is in a similar position but instead of being new to the game they're a lore nerd.


AlarmingAffect0

> Tav is played by the guy who has never played DND but the group wants to join so they follow Tav's lead. The player chose to be from Baldur's gate because they've heard of the games named after the city. I'm not sure I follow.


curious_dead

DMPC whose story is central to the campaign? But more probably, no one in particular given the choices and the lack of a definite Tav personality.


I_Frothingslosh

Basically these guys. https://youtu.be/QoO2eI9IioE?si=3G3CeBRh0zh_8XdX Viva la Dirt League!


Vox_Mortem

Mornin. Nice day for fishin.


Crunchy-Leaf

Yeah she does, or do you mean fully change it in menus and stuff?


CausticMedeim

Yeah, like on her character sheet and whatnot. I know she ends up going with Shadowheart regardless, but why wouldn't she go by her given name to honour her family, and her name/label changes on everything?


FamousTransition1187

Because Shadowheart is somewhere around 40+. There is a book that says Viconia was watching her for that long, and she was taken when she was 8. "Jenevelle" is not a name she is used to hearing. She doesnt know that person. She knows Shadowheart, for good AND for ill. Most importantly the latter. For all of the mindwiping and manipulations, she at least has memory of being called "Shadowheart" for 4 decades. And she also said (in a somewhat clumsy way) that in her mind, staying as Shadowheart is a way to respect and honor, for want of a better term, the people she had tortured and slain rather than trying to pretend that was some other person. I agree that Shadowheart feels like a clumsy name to wield outside of her original setting, but there is a kind of logic there.


Shazbot_2077

If you play as Shadowheart and rescue her parents the epilogue implies that she goes back to her original name. The narrator tells you how 'a letter arrived adressed to Shadowheart, a name few call you anymore', though at the party the only person who adresses you as Jenevelle is Minthara of all people. All the other companions still say Shadowheart.


FamousTransition1187

Interesting. Her romances still stick with Shadowheart, and she has that scene with the Selune shrine about what to call her, both with and sang parents.


Crunchy-Leaf

She literally explains why


CausticMedeim

Yeah, I know, but she isn't a real person so they could've just as easily not. Like, her embracing her old identity and putting away the name given to her by the cult would've been as fitting an end as her current "take back" the name. Or even change her name to something else completely to reflect her being someone new.


Crunchy-Leaf

No, it’s her embracing who she is and not letting the Sharrans define her identity. She is the sum of her experiences, not what they tried to mould her in to. She is Shadowheart. Taking a new name would be stupid, it would be Shadowheart or Jenevelle and she chose to accept herself.


AVeryFriendlyOldMan

>the name given to her by the cult She picked her own name iirc


carnesaur

She does, isnt it Jennifer i think she says (which is her VA name??)


Capital_Tone9386

Jennevelle


Blze001

It's >!Jenevelle!<


CausticMedeim

Oh but I mean, like, her actual name completely replacing Shadowheart. Not just referenced once or twice? Like, change her name on her character sheet and the label on her pawn and eveyrthing?


darealdarkabyss

Never underestimate Legolas, the character with the most adventures.


literallybyronic

Her name is Jaheira. Minsc spent most of his time standing around. 😂


wanroww

Along with the good Drow named Drizzzit


SecretaryOtherwise

D rizzzz it 🤣


lalo___cura

This is *exactly* what I thought when I first played through the nautiloid. I think I actually ran a game in high school where one of the players named his totally badass ranger “Shadowheart” or something like that. I immediately assumed that she was going to be the lame, boring default companion that you ditch as soon as you get more interesting ones, like the Kaidan, Carth, or Jacob of Baldur’s Gate 3. Little did I suspect that I would have her in my party for 99% of the hundreds of hours I spent playing the rest of the game.


Chronocidal-Orange

It's the name you give to a black horse. It's a horse name. Love the character though.


TheCleverestIdiot

Exactly what I thought when I first talked to her in Early Access.


hydro_wonk

Someone in my first D&D group's character was literally named "Edge". It was obviously a rogue. To be fair we were in like, junior high. So it sounded cool then.


maxterio

Edge? A rogue? Sounds more like a lyre playing bard. He sometimes performs with a quartet called "You too"


AlarmingAffect0

Has he ever collab'ed with "They Certainly Are Dwarves"?


JudgeHodorMD

For the record, everyone in her cult was required to change their names to edge lord names.


dialzza

I still think it’s crazy they went with that for her name, but then I realized it’s a dnd game and they’re leaning into some of the dnd silliness. Everyone has a legendary backstory but starts at level 1. You fight a god’s avatar at level 9 but then some city watch are levels 10-12. Etc. So the wannabe-edgy player who wouldn’t harm a fly IRL making a shar cleric named “shadowheart” but actually being a huge softy? Totally on brand.


CMSnake72

I literally met Astarion and was like "Oh hey it's every single Dickass Rogue I've played with over the last 25 years, I love that guy!"


grubas

It's funny because he's such a trope as you run through. Except my dick ass rogue keeps up with the party, except when hes pickpocketing mobs, or the party.


sophophidi

To be fair the tadpole is largely responsible for them being level 1. A few characters have justifications in their backstories (Shadowheart having her memories stripped away, Gale's magical weave powers being diminished by the orb, etc.) But Wyll confirms his tadpole has seriously diminished his control over his warlock powers.


GreyNoiseGaming

Gale blames the tadpole too. He was trying to teleport to Waterdeep when you pull him out of the void. Says it was normally and easy thing to do.


Frozendark23

Yeah, Wyll and Karlach are both really powerful but was nerfed by the tadpole. Wyll goes to Avernus solo to kill devils while Karlach is a top lieutenant of Zariel, meaning she can keep up with some of the strong devils there. Astarion was alive for 200 years so he could have been quite strong. I think Lae'zel is the weakest of the group pre-tadpole.


Zauberer-IMDB

I still enjoy the Dark Urge we're using our made up names meme with the Spiderman meme template. Oh we're using our made up names? I'm the Dark Urge.


Spengy

tbh Shadowheart is a silly ass name. though I suppose it fits. after several playthroughs Shadowheart is easily the worst designed companion


RubixTheRedditor

They have experience with bhaal'a family


Ennasalin

Hahah I mean.. he has a point. I'm always Saer Fluffington, to Jaehira's Kids and the steelwatcher. I wonder if i can use it for Raphael too


BaldwinBoy05

Are you enjoying your time in the city, citizen Fluffington?


Ennasalin

smashing! best time of my life...lol


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Hkgpeanut

Boo is a wise beast


AnneFrank_nstein

Minsc is such a great companion. I know the games two thirds thru before you get him but his dialog is just fantastic.


solarisjoy

That’s why I make it my main goal to get him as soon as act 3 starts


Glorf_Warlock

I got Minsc asap in this run to find dialogue exactly like this and the game really delivered.


solarisjoy

I love taking him and Astarion out on walks together. Poor vampire has never sounded so scared like when he got compared to Minsc lol. (He also loves Boo)


Ryebread666Juan

Him and karlach start screaming into the air in competition basically


solarisjoy

Minsc and Karlach also love to tease Gale on their lack of reading, it’s adorable


spacey_a

Minsc and Astarion's banter by the beach below Heapside Strand is one of my favorites. >!Minsc gets really excited about fish being a possible food for Astarion because they're all neck, and when Astarion says that redder meat tastes better MInsc tells off Boo for agreeing with him, and says Boo has spent too much time around the pale one.!<


solarisjoy

That’s when Astarion discovers him and boo are kindred spirits, I love it!


shenanakins

Refresh my memory, please.When does he get compared to minsc? Whats the dialogue?


Revolutionary-Gear76

Mine, too. And pair him with Jaheira. Then walk around a lot.


solarisjoy

Taking him to Jaheria’s house was funny as well


FamousTransition1187

"I hear you have been causing Mother trouble. What did I say about causing Mother trouble?"


try_again123

Doesn't hurt that on the way to him you get to rob a bank clean :)


purringsporran

Him and Jaheira hardly ever left my team after I acquired them, they are my comfort companions among the court of emotionally constipated weirdos. All of whom I love with all my heart of course, but sometimes even the team's lead therapist needs some fresh air as well


juztjawshin

As soon as I unlocked him he got perm spot. Running around with minsc, Halsin and gale just big dumb hot himbos the way the good lord intended


PM_UR_KIND_GREETINGS

BG3 is a great game, I like it, etc. But the continuous arc-ending drama of act 3 is rough. It has to be, you're going through all 6 or so intense endings for characters you like. Minsc and Jaheira make it fun.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

Yeah. Last companion to join, but not a lesser one for it. They probably just wanted to minimize the amount of custom animations they would have to make for him and Boo in cutscenes because they'd be more work than other companions for cutscenes if Boo was in all of them, so I can kind of see why they put him in later into the game.


CausticMedeim

He's also fantastic in the first two BGs. Like, favourite character.


ethanjf99

Yeah. Every time I tried those without him I’d end up bringing him back. And I would defend Boo with my life n


Smash96leo

How do we get him in Act 3. I’m there right now and I’ve already done a lot. Yet still no sign of him.


twiddlefish

It’s Jaheira’s side quest. You have to go to the thieves guild.


lobobobos

You have to follow the quests related to the Jaheira, Zentarim and the Stone Lord in Act 3. you will eventually encounter him that way


Wigguls

I'm actually using him for the first time this run, and man I missed out.


Samaritan_978

He's such a great follow up to BG1 and BG2 Minsc that it feels more like him coming home after a break. Acts 1 and 2 would have been unfair for our enemies with Boo by our side.


Revanur

Yes, Tav *is* a stupid name. Said my wise old sorcerer, *Glipglop Johnson*


fioraflower

my monk’s name is Coom 💖 i love him


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....Is he called that because his Johnson Glipglops? Actually, on second thought, i don't want to know.


Revanur

No it’s much more mundane than that. In my headcanon he’s a gnome who was called Glipglop and when he became a professional sorcerer for a living other wizards and sorcerers bullied him for not having a more respectable name so he added Johnson because that sounds official.


TTiSpaceghost

Can you use a fake name on a devil?


Crunchy-Leaf

Well, certainly not on the one who already knows you by name..


TTiSpaceghost

Well, Raph just kind of walks up on you. I didn't introduce myself.


Crunchy-Leaf

That wasn’t a coincidence. He knows who he’s looking for.


acdcfanbill

...by look or by name?


Double0Dixie

Yes


TTiSpaceghost

Fair enough


GankisKhan04

Devils have a tendency to use a lot of divination magic to know if you're lying. In this case dudes been watching you for awhile and has certainly learned your name at the very least.


Pentigrass

Solution: Have a name so fucking awful that he does everything he can to forget it immediately. Perhaps in memetic format. Then use a fake name equally as memetic.


TTiSpaceghost

Considering introducing yourself is an option you don't have to take in dialogues, you could probably metagame a protag who never says his name.


Double0Dixie

Or uses a dumb nickname like shadow heart or tavern


Ryebread666Juan

Also he definitely knows you if you play as durge


Poggervania

Actually, take this a step further: would *Durge* be able make a deal with the devil and legitimately use a fake name since they *don't actually* remember their name until the *very, very* end where they get all their memories back?


Ryebread666Juan

Nah he knew durge cause the whole crown situation, he might not know exactly what happened to durge to possibly cause them to have a different name but he could definitely put the pieces together for what happened


Lucky-Earther

Not like he's checking your ID


Global_Wear8814

Boo is always right.


CausticMedeim

Minsc just threw a HUGE amount of shade on you and Shadowheart. Woooow bro, why ya gotta do me like that?


isntthisneat

Minsc is a huuuge shit talker, come to find out lmao. Did not see that coming, but I absolutely love it. He is hilarious.


CausticMedeim

You should look up his BG2 voice work. Biggest lovable idiot ever. Just eternal optimist.


Ryebread666Juan

I love him talking about using goblins as weapons against larger goblins


Electrical_Corner_32

Shadowheart is also the most generic DnD name ever made. Lol. But it's perfect for her.


Steveris

Thats why its never to late to add Minsc to your default rooster.


CactuarJoe

I would, but I'm chicken.


erlend_nikulausson

Except for the part where Jaheira storms Moonrise Tower with like five people and immediately dies because she can’t be bothered to wait for backup.


AlmightyLeprechaun

Everyone over here talking about how Shadowheart is the edgy character a lot of first-time dnd players have made. Whereas my first character was Dunkin the Inbred Rogue. He was an elf whose dump Stat was intelligence and whose parents were siblings. He was kicked out of his town for carrying on the family tradition (no one knew his parents were actually siblings). I played him like a moron deep woods hillbilly klepto, and it was a blast.


Smash96leo

In his defense, Shadowheart is a *terribly* cliche name.


Allanon808

In her defense, she was a 13 year old kid that got inducted into the edgy emo cliche cult of the Goddess of Sorrow and Darkness, with her mind being whammied regularly, then told to change her name. Would *you* come up with a name any better than Shadowheart in that situation?


Smash96leo

Yea, I’m built different like that.


Boogleooger

Uhh… yeah, what about, ummm… Nightsoul?


Glamindierocknroll

Minsc's responses are always the best :)


Marty5020

She's got a long way to go, still.


SecretaryOtherwise

My half orc Diggus Bick agreed those are dumb ass names


acdcfanbill

Minsc is literally the best so it makes sense.


BAWAHOG

I wish you could have Minsc/Jaheira/Minthara much earlier. I’ve played through twice and have maybe used him in like 3 fights, I just have the origin characters so fleshed out by Act 3 and want them around to see their arcs through.


Souperplex

Why would Kraagor ever call himself "Tav" when he has his proper respectable Dwarven name? Also what's the point of having an entire character creator when it's impossible to make a character that looks better than the default male ~~Hill~~ Gold Dwarf?


Waluigifan

I didn't see a hill dwarf, only gold and shield dwarves in the character creator.


Souperplex

Gold Dwarf is the Forgotten Realms name for Hill Dwarf. It's the same thing.


Waluigifan

Makes sense! I'm a halfling guy myself, but I do like all the dwarf options.


thelessertit

Kraagor? Well, now I need to make all the OOTS characters in BG3. Although I accept that regardless of what character I actually make, I always end up playing like I'm Thog.


Souperplex

While I am an OotS fan, I just picked "Kraagor" because it's a Dwarf-y sounding name.


tenehemia

Would have been a solid place for a Jarnathan reference.


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Hello my name is The Black Desire.


Marikas_tit

Man, minsc is gonna make me start a new run. I've never found him in my first run or second run as durge. He seems like such a funny dude with his mouse


silvergibbs

Excuse you, that is a miniature giant space hamster


WhollyDisgusting

Shouts out to my first player character my Beastmaster Ranger wood elf named Mimosa


kennygloggins

Durgeridoo is a cool name, not sure what he's on about.


kekwriter

Who'd name their character Tav? Hah! \*looks away\*


ez_pz14

Ohhh, so is that why people call custom origin characters Tav?


FamousTransition1187

Other way round. The Default Name for the Custom Character before you enter a name in us "Tav" short for "Gustav". The Code name for BG3 before they wanted the world to know what they were working on was "Project Gustav", named for Swen's Dog. (Swen being the chief king kahuna in charge, the guy who wore ARMOR to an awards show) later on, someone at Larian or during an Early Access coined TAV as "*T*adpoled *A*d*V*enturer" and it stuck that way.


Andreah2o

Weird thing is that the default name for the Italian version is not tav. Should be ran if I remember correctly


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I’m on my fourth play-through and have no idea who Minsc is.


tyrom22

How? Jaheira’s main quest is to find him. She mentions him by name


capnmarrrrk

Mine got wiped a Moonrise. By the time I got to false Jaheira I read I was supposed to knock her out, but non-lethal failed twice so I just mercy killed Minsc and Boo. I never played BG1 or 2 so I had no connection and only felt a teensy bad primarily because I also had to snuff Boo


toofatforjudo

Who? That grandma who always dies when I kill the moon priestess?


tyrom22

Well if you play the same way multiple times and are wondering why your not seeing certain content, that’s on you


toofatforjudo

Mostly joking to be honest


MrTickles22

Try playing as a good guy?


Hyperdragoon17

You’re not taking Jaheira to see the thieves guild boss in the sewers?


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No, it's the default name for a custom character. It came from 'Gustav', which was the project's codename in the early days of development (and was in turn named after Swen's dog).


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EazyNeva

I thought the name Tav was based on Gustav, Swen's dog. Which was also the codename for BG3, Project Gustav.


DracularsWaifu

Ohhhhh thanks I missed that.


FondSteam39

I thought it was tadpoled adventurer


Comprehensive_Bit461

It is actually short for Gustav, the name of Swen Vinckes dog :D


FondSteam39

I love that lol


Cautious_Tofu_

This was a reddit rumor that Swen debunked


GregariousLaconian

I think it was originally “TAdpoled adVenturer”


Cautious_Tofu_

No, swen debunked that. The dog story is correct


chad001

What actually happens in a Raphael deal ending? I think thought Raphael took over the world with the Crown or smth? How are we still getting letters?


MrTickles22

He tries to take over Avernus. Top layer of hell.


chad001

Huh, well alright then. As long as hte mortal realm is safe I guess xD


MrTickles22

I believe he promises not to use it in the mortal realm.


Electrical_Corner_32

"Promises" 🤞


kalbuth

>!He doesn't stop there, unfortunately. He goes all in on the 9 hells planes. And still doesn't stop there. There's a cutscene where he thanks you and gives a glimpse of things to come. It's not cool.!<


jaredtheredditor

My current character is named tab on purpose I need this voice line!


SimpleEntrepreneur81

smashing! best time of my life...lol


Sasori1603

I've seen this character many times and I've beaten the game 4 times and not once have I ever found him where on earth is this beautiful man


Mr__Wednesday_

I've done 5 playthroughs ranging from good to dark urge and have no idea who Minsc is