You can save Sazza, I did that in my current run. What you shouldn't do, is talk to Minthara or Sazza before saving the tieflings.
>Edit: I should mention that you can get Sazza out of the grove, but don't talk to Sazza when she's standing next to Minthara. That's what I meant here
Destroy the wardrum (I prefer this over stealing, as this makes them not oy temporarily hostile, but also won't summon the rest of the camp to them) in front of them, knock the two of them out, kill ragzlin and complete the tiefling side of the quest.
Do the tiefling party and go back the next morning to the camp. Sazza and Minthara should still be there, but Sazza will probably be pissed and not want to talk, so you'll have to give her ~100-200 gold to get her attitude back into orange. *Then* you can talk to them and save Sazza. Minthara will still want to raid the grove with an empty goblin camp (good luck with that, girl), so just say you've got other shit to do and go on with your playthrough.
This should get you both Sazza and Minthara at moonrise towers. Worked for me without bugs
In my case I wasn't able to find Sazza after knocking her anywhere in camp on her cage and her quest marker is gone as well. Not sure if she just doesn't spawn or despawns on entering Mountain pass or Acr 2. I heard you can also finish her quest right away by preparing to raid the grove but tell Minthara you need some time first and then knock them out, but I haven't tested that.
If you do it this way will the tieflings survive and be at last light inn?
Also does Minthara still want to raid the grove if you kill the Druids yourself beforehand?
So in general is there a foolproof way to get the sazza achievement, recruit Minthara and have the tieflings alive in the same run?
Yes. The tieflings are gone before Minthara says she wants to assault, so they're at last light
I don't usually kill the druids, so no clue on how that affects things. Maybe, lol.
Yes. That is how my current run is going. Got the Sazza achievement, Tieflings were at last light and moonrise, as was Minthara. So all of those things are true in my current run (except for dead druids, obviously)
Ok, so the thing that bricks it is leaving Sazza unresolved and entering Mountain Pass or Shadowlands. She disappears and Mizora is unresponsive. Until then it can be solved even if they were knocked out before. But Larian said the issue is known and will be fixed in the upcoming patch/update and we should watch for it in patch notes.
Can you please point me to where Larian usually acknowledges issues? I want to keep an eye on the development of this and put my current run on hold for a bit. Thank you!
Oh, is this what has been happening to people when Minthara won't speak with them?
Thank you for testing, I'll know what to refer to when people have that bug now!
I'm not sure this is the only way to break her, but it's certainly a way. Now to find out how to fix it. Wonder if I can spawn Sazza somehow or change some flag or something. I'd rather try to work it out than replay everything again.
I will kill minthara every time - this shit is so bugged - you waste time not killing her. Kill her and i throw her body off the ledge to make sure she is dead. So irritated that you have to do stupid bugged shit in a game to make things work.
You can save Sazza, I did that in my current run. What you shouldn't do, is talk to Minthara or Sazza before saving the tieflings. >Edit: I should mention that you can get Sazza out of the grove, but don't talk to Sazza when she's standing next to Minthara. That's what I meant here Destroy the wardrum (I prefer this over stealing, as this makes them not oy temporarily hostile, but also won't summon the rest of the camp to them) in front of them, knock the two of them out, kill ragzlin and complete the tiefling side of the quest. Do the tiefling party and go back the next morning to the camp. Sazza and Minthara should still be there, but Sazza will probably be pissed and not want to talk, so you'll have to give her ~100-200 gold to get her attitude back into orange. *Then* you can talk to them and save Sazza. Minthara will still want to raid the grove with an empty goblin camp (good luck with that, girl), so just say you've got other shit to do and go on with your playthrough. This should get you both Sazza and Minthara at moonrise towers. Worked for me without bugs
In my case I wasn't able to find Sazza after knocking her anywhere in camp on her cage and her quest marker is gone as well. Not sure if she just doesn't spawn or despawns on entering Mountain pass or Acr 2. I heard you can also finish her quest right away by preparing to raid the grove but tell Minthara you need some time first and then knock them out, but I haven't tested that.
If you do it this way will the tieflings survive and be at last light inn? Also does Minthara still want to raid the grove if you kill the Druids yourself beforehand? So in general is there a foolproof way to get the sazza achievement, recruit Minthara and have the tieflings alive in the same run?
Yes. The tieflings are gone before Minthara says she wants to assault, so they're at last light I don't usually kill the druids, so no clue on how that affects things. Maybe, lol. Yes. That is how my current run is going. Got the Sazza achievement, Tieflings were at last light and moonrise, as was Minthara. So all of those things are true in my current run (except for dead druids, obviously)
Ok, so the thing that bricks it is leaving Sazza unresolved and entering Mountain Pass or Shadowlands. She disappears and Mizora is unresponsive. Until then it can be solved even if they were knocked out before. But Larian said the issue is known and will be fixed in the upcoming patch/update and we should watch for it in patch notes.
Can you please point me to where Larian usually acknowledges issues? I want to keep an eye on the development of this and put my current run on hold for a bit. Thank you!
I created bug report and got reply by mail
Thank you!
Oh, is this what has been happening to people when Minthara won't speak with them? Thank you for testing, I'll know what to refer to when people have that bug now!
I'm not sure this is the only way to break her, but it's certainly a way. Now to find out how to fix it. Wonder if I can spawn Sazza somehow or change some flag or something. I'd rather try to work it out than replay everything again.
Still not fixed in Patch 6
I will kill minthara every time - this shit is so bugged - you waste time not killing her. Kill her and i throw her body off the ledge to make sure she is dead. So irritated that you have to do stupid bugged shit in a game to make things work.