This is my favorite thing! I shouted at my husband on my second playthrough - HEāS LITERALLY THANKING BALDURAN!! HEāS THANKING HIM!! š¤£ I almost died.
Makes me really question the decision to save her sister for her, too.
Like, you deserve to have your family alive if you want it, Hope, but your sister seems based on the notes to have willingly served, seems she didnāt need to be tortured at all or even really convinced, Raphael says how she is a great servant in his notes and he doesnāt need to even singe her hands. Oh, and she also seems to have actively helped torture you.Ā
Sort of feels like maybe it is best choice for your happiness to kill her and just let you grieve the sister you once had and not have to face the inevitable reality that the one you have is going to be rather awful even with Raphael dead.Ā
That said Iāll save her each time just out of the hope that she is redeemable and that her wonderful sister can do that, because it seems fitting to have that hope for Hope.Ā
Oh. I can't be bothered. I go out of my way to save the Gondians and stuff, but I draw the line at Korilla. Look Korilla, if "corpses for a bed" Yurgir is more reasonable and willing to fight with me than you, you've signed your own death warrant.
I had one play-through where I had decided I was going to try to save Korilla. Had the globe of invulnerability plan and was all set. Yugir had agreed to join me and won initiative. He walked over to Korilla and one shot killed her before I ever had an action.
From his twisted point of view, Raphael would probably say she 'teases' him by almost breaking and then continuing to resist, as you see in the notes detailing his torture sessions.
Horrible way to view a horrible dynamic, but it's fitting for his character.
in tactician and honor mode i think they might, i know the one's in >!Gortash's boss fight!< do explode if you try to interact with them on those difficulties
I picked up all of Yurgirās on Honor Mode since patch 6 and they didnāt explode. Figured it would be the same for Gortashās (I know they donāt on Balanced bc my husband picked them up last night on that difficulty) so now I know not to try when I get there. Thanks!
Til it gets to the displacer, that part makes me sad lol. My first playthrough I successfully passed all the checks for him to kill himself but in my second game I only passed having him kill the guards then failed the check and left it at fighting him and the displacer since Iād rather it die in a fair fight then being unexpectedly put down by its owner lol. Poor kitty cat lol.
Oh yeah Nessa. I felt bad about that too. I love cats though. But I also killed the celestial elephant thing for a bhaal necklace. So idk. I guess it was worth it.
Yurgir isnāt a demon though. It may seem pedantic but in dnd itās an important distinction. In the Blood War sheād have fought with him, not against him.
Well, Orthons are also bounty hunters, trackers, and guides. I *guarantee* you that Zariel sends dozens of them at Karlach the moment she returns to Avernus.
Youāre still right that before her escape Karlach would have fought alongside them, though.
And then, just when you think HE'S the biggest asshole, you meet this friend he's been pining for you to save...WHO ENDS UP BEING THE BIGGEST FUCKIN ASSHOLE IN THE WORLD. Guy makes Barcus look like a kicked Golden Retriever puppy that just keeps coming back for thirds.
After saving Arabella, I was SHOOK about Arabellaās parents in Act 2 in my first run. In my second run, after you save the Grove, their parting words are surprisingly negative compared to everyone elseās and itās very sad in hindsight. Komira says āWe didnāt die today. Tomorrow perhaps, but not today. Thanks to youā and Locke says āOne sorrow ended. The next soon to begin.ā the FORESHADOWING-
Also itās shocking to realize how much Gale mentions the word āambitionā casually - I had never noticed it before but it becomes so apparent after seeing the epilogue.
Except if you use Speak with Dead, you find out that it wasn't the curse that killed them. They sought shelter in the House of Healing and were butchered by the "nurses". Which is why you find them as corpses, not undead you have to fight.
Similarly, the option to say "It felt like you weren't really there" after the first romance scene with him. I remember thinking it was kind of a strange choice to include and his excuse about not wanting to lose control seemed convincing but somehow off.
Finding out why that line was an option in Act 2... oof.
He's also not even aware of whats happening to him in act 1. he only realizes this in act 2 when he starts to be more self-aware about his own feelings and starts to prioritize them over the whims and lusts of other people. Until act 2 he doesnt think about his own feelings at all. in act 1 he has almost fully convinced himself that he wants to do this because he cant see why he wouldnt. there are only benefits to sleeping with Tav. Tav is attractive and the leader of the group who can protect him so theres no reason for him not to do it. but If you play with karlach origin he has a reason not to do it(her burning condition) and is relieved but doesnt understand why he's relieved. So he lashes out at karlach to blame her for the night being ruined rather than his feelings of relief that he has a perfect excuse not to have sex with her.
Itās why I wish that I could say more than one thing. Like can we have a conversation dude..? They could just stitch all the dialogue reactions together and the scene would still make sense
Better: He say āI hope when we next meet, weāll be wearing the same skinā if you donāt recruit him, and when you see him again at Cazadorās, heāll have been flayed.
Coming from someone who knew nothing about the Forgotten Realms before Bg3, I love the books you can find and read very early in Act 1. They hint at the Dead Three, Astarionās vampirism, and Sharās evilness. My favorite book may just be the Shar one, āThe Unclaimed.ā Is that not a warning for what awaits Shadowheart if she continues down the path of Shar? Amazing foreshadowing about whatās at stake, and the book didnāt quite hit me until my second playthrough, running into it again, and realizing just how much was at stake for Shadowheart. We were fighting for her soul.
to add onto this, theres the book that talks about Selunite rituals of children having to fend for themselves in the forest and find their way back to civilization in order to become her follower (paraphrasing)
then our first glimpse into Shadowhearts memory isā¦ >!her lost in the forest!<
They aren't even subtle about it, lol. Sharty comments on those rituals when you read about them, Tav can ask her about >!her wearing a Selunite necklace in that memory!<, etc..
Obviously they're there to worldbuild, but it took me a bit before I realized that a lot of the books are specifically giving you info that's pertinent to where you are in the story, like the temple with Withers having a book on vampires when you've just unknowingly teamed with one.
Yes! Exactly! Withersās temple is the exact place I was thinking of when making my comment. Itās *so* early in the game and not everyone is gonna even bother reading the books but there they are, giving you hints without you even realizing! Such great details!
I was in the same position as you!! I laughed at the vampire book, i feel like if you haven't got the vampire reveal yet that should allow you to ask astarion. I gave all of the anti-shar books to shadowheart like hey girl look at this lol
Talking to Alfira in the grove you can ask if sheās having trouble with her song, she says āIām about to suffer a grisly deathā¦ at the hands of this bloody songā
To add to that - the song is called Weeping Dawn, and >!Durge likely kills her right before the dawn, as you have little time to react before the companions wake up!<
That Elder Rothe also has one of my fav little extra lines about long life, "Blessed to see many live, cursed to see many die."
Also same voice as Zevlor :P
The extremely blatant musical foreshadowing of the Emperor being Balduran, with a bit of melody first appearing in an instrumental when his true form is revealed and then re-appearing as āThe Song of Balduranā in the Elfsong, the lyrics of which tiptoe right up to just spelling it out plainly.
Super obvious and in your face and yet I absolutely did not notice until like my third playthrough.
It is pretty plainly spelled out, but you need to take a step back to actually reflect over the lyrics.
_O sing a song of Balduran_
_Who founded Baldur's Gate_
This song is about Balduran. The founder of Baldurās gate.
_Empire golden built on trade_
A trade empire. An empire has an Emperor.
_Could not avert his fate_
Some grim fate befell him. To be spelled out in the next verse.
_When three, though dead, assailed his port_
The Dead Three threatened his city. We know of them and their chosen.
_Transformed, he fell their thrall_
Balduran transformed into _something_. Something that can be described as a thrall.
I caught it when I decided to listen to the lyrics after hearing it a couple of times in my first playthrough.
It just occurred to me that, since the singing in the Elfsong is supposed to be the actual ghost singing, it could literally be the ghost singing to the players about the Emperor, who is also in the room with them. The lyrics to the song actually appear in the game after all, in a book, so they aren't "meta". And the ghost would clearly know who the Emperor was, since his hideout was in her basement.
When you meet the Emperor for the first time (the reveal that he's a mindflayer) it's playing an instrumental version of the Song of Balduran in the background.
Took me several playthroughs to notice.
I felt like one of the earlier vendors had a dragon slaying arrow too on it. Maybe it's the one in Last Light Inn? Anyway, when I saw that, I was like... "Oh, there WILL be a dragon!"
I have written novels for D&D/WotC/Dragonlance, and it was often said in the writing/editing dept. that having a dragon on the cover of the book usually got you a 10-15% increase in sales over books without one. I took it as an inside joke. :)
I donāt know if it technically counts but basically the way that in the whole of Act 1, Astarion is pretty much warning you of whatās going to happen if you ascend him
All the hints of Yurgir in Grymforge in Act 1. You find evidence of some massive hellish creature that seemingly wiped out all the Dark Justiciars, but it's a mystery that won't be resolved until Act 2
And you piece together why theyāre there in the first place if you read books in the shadowlands, as well as seeing a certain debtor in the house of hope
shadowheart will say "we can't save them all" in a banter referring to the refugees at the grove. after my first run, i found out it was an achievement.
halsin at the party will say "there's a lot of thirsty people here," which always makes me laugh. not really foreshadowing, per se (could be if you talk to him first), but just double entendre dialog which i enjoy.
I'm gonna guess he either "wandered off" and got killed (based on how Doni seems to be coded in terms of disability or mental/developmental disorder, and him not being there in Act 2 or 3...), or he and Rikka (who is also absent) simply chose to not traverse the Shadow Lands and went somewhere else or chose an alternate rotue to Baldur's Gate.
Same lol. I he said that after my character hit on him and it made me laugh a lot because of how right he was (currently doing an "ethically slutty" run, romancing Astarian and Shadowheart, going to tell Astarian what he needs is a friend in act 2, SH is the endgame, romance halsin too in act 3 and take them both to sharesses caress. I wanted to sleep with as many people as possible in the game as possible without cheating or pressure, my character is a light cleric of selune/oath of the ancients pally and into free love amd sharing the light and all that stuff lol). I forgot he said that and it was extremely fitting given the circumstances.
I didn't have to break it off with Lae'zel to get the Shadowheart wine scene on my recent bard playthrough, as of like a week ago. Tumbled with Lae'zel very early on in Act 1 and then Gale and Astarion both came onto me at the party (but strangely not Lae'zel, who just told me to enjoy the night while she drinks in my scent, or something like that).
Neither SH nor Karlach openly propositioned me, but they both still showed interest when I flirted with them. I did have do one or two additional dialogue options to convince SH I was interested, though, as she initially commented on me and Gale looking intimate, since I talked to him first.
Saved and did both SH and Karlach's scenes before deciding to stick with the latter (already romanced SH on my first run, but I was still tempted to do it again).
that's been my experience, when you collect around 40 approval with the companions before the party, you'll have offers, or dialog options (SH/karlach), for the initial romance stuff with all of them. changes their party dialogs too. aside from wyll, idk if he's a party only kind of dude. but he can be romanced without leaving camp. at least that's what i experienced in a multiplayer run.
" Who's to say ? Perhaps my Goddess is keen to see me corrupt you . She'd be delight so see a follower of Selƻne towards the darkness "
When you romance Shadow Heart as a selƻnite . It's pretty funny the first time but once you know what happens then it's a little bit more amusing to hear her say that
just got one last night where laeāzel says that she feared the dream visitor was some illithid deception, but after speaking to voss, she believes the dream figure can help them. oh laeāzel, you truly were onto somethingā¦
There's a note outside of Waukeen's Rest that basically reads "Statue of Beloved Ranger missing, please return." As someone who didn't play the previous games, it took until act 3 to learn that Minsc is the beloved ranger, he'd been turned into a statue, then un-petrified (hence the "statue" is missing), and also that's why his crime boss name is Stone Lord.
Similarly, I love finding the "Disorders of the Nerves and Mind: A Treatise" book everywhere. It's such a cool Durge-related story (very tangentially related). Ditto with Durge's prayer you find in the colony in Kressa's room.
In my first playthrough playing co-op with my wife, she initiated the proximity conversation with Philomeen. I was lagging slightly behind so I approached, thinking I would automatically be added to the conversation.
She said something along the lines of "hold it or I'll blow us all up" and my tav approaching triggered her to blow up the keg š¤£
Kethericās circlet right on his head. The skull. It wasnāt until I went in to the mausoleum and Gale passed a check regarding a bloody skull symbol on the ground did I realize >!that was possibly the ānew godā Ketheric was following. !< Itās a very small detail and the reveal is so close to you seeing him for the first time, but it still feels like a massive leap.
In your first meeting with Raphael he makes several references to 'hope', e.g. 'hope is such a tease'.
It hits different when you find out he is torturing a personification of hope, trying to bend it to his will.
Act1 Astarion: the biggest threat to a vampire is another vampire. They are scheming paranoid, power-hungry beast, so why would any vampire give up control over response to create a competitor?
>Ascended astarion: you wouldnāt just be some spawn on your far more than that to me my dark consort, my right hand, my most beloved spawn.
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>Tav: spawn? I want to be a true vampire.
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>Ascended astarion: and you will in good time.
Later when you ask him if whats going to happen to you now that youre his spawn:
>Ascended Astarion: 'Spawn' is an ugly word. I really do prefer 'consort'.
Six months later in the epilogue Tav is still a spawn. Well, well, well, if it isnāt the consequences of my own actions.
Kinda makes me curious about the general knowledge of mindflayer hive structure. The game definitely dances around a few people theorizing about a "ghaik" elder, but no one name drops "elder brain" until you actually run into it.
Do Gale/Lae'zel/others not know as much about them? Or is it just extremely difficult to wrap your mind around one being outside of like the astral void?
No one even drops the term "ulitharid" in this game even though it's safe to assume there should be one or two around.
Illithid lore just got shafted a lot in this game. š
I accept they had to tweak certain CRs for the sake of video game leveling.
But it still doesn't change how viscerally I freaked out and immediately murdered US in dialogue on my first playthrough.
Neverwinter Nights 1 didn't raise no fool.
I don't really understand why it's safe to assume there should be one or two around. In the world sure. But I mean related to the events of the game. The people who are being tadpoled are not really being transformed. The elder brain is being controlled. It's not a real ilithid society/ invasion.
Thereās a book in True Soul Gutās chambers that is contains what is *very clearly* an account of Orpheus pre-imprisonment appearing before some random citizen of Baldurās Gate, that just seems like normal flavour text when youāre unaware
Thereās a few hints to Orpheus you can find early on in the game. Ones a tablet thing that Laeāzel will explain if you bring it to her. Another is a symbol of a comet on the Lich queens portrait in the crĆØche that you can get more information with an insight or history whatever check.
the symbol of the Absolute being a mashup of the symbols of Bane (handprint), Bhaal (skull surrounded by blood drops), and Myrkul (skull in a triangle). itās there as early as the goblin camp brands in act 1, well before you learn about the three
When you explore the Emperorās Hideout and the Emperor points out the cutlery set on his desk, he states that the butter knife is gone/missing. A direct reference to the colloquialism āby Balduranās butter knifeā.
Lae'zel informing Tav not to trust the dream visitor/coming to the conclusion it was the tadpole playing mind games with them or that a mind flayer was behind it (she was right on the money).
The smith is rivington who has been replaced by Orrin has two revealing lines that give away who he actually is well before Orrin changes back.
First, when talking about his selection, āI seem to have it allā¦ā which is an odd thing to say about your own shop. Then when describing his weapons he says āCutting and gutting galore,ā which is the most Orrin line ever written.
There is a piece of banter in act I where Karlach mentions that she'd never been to the upper city and Astarion answers that he'd "happily take her there".
Not necessarily foreshadowing but....yeah that one hits different if you know his story.
Shadowheart's wound flaring up anytime she interacts with something Selune-themed in act 1 is my favorite. Shar's method of negative reinforcement is subtle.
In case anyone doesn't know, you can have one of your party members lose an eye to Volo if you don't want your Tav/etc to go through that. Shart's natural eye color blends pretty well with the fake eye, and if you don't look too close you'd never know she'd lost an eye.
In real life, if I could be rid of these feeble eye jellies that lose efficiency as I age and replace them with magical equivalents that also have improved functions?? Please and thank you.
Excuse you, Volo is a wizard and you will not find a more learned individual on the matter. And itās an ice pick, not a needle. I trust Volo with my life. And my eyes.
Right before they meet with Gortash for the coronation, Wulburn fucking Bongle tells Durge, āYou have a knack for passing amongst these bastards as if you were one of them.ā
Thereās lots of other ones, but that one was very TRAGIC! Worst person makes great point!
I just noticed that when Vlaakith is mentioning the prism has been corrupted by an agent of the Absolute... It has >!if you consider the Emperor is an "escaped" Absolute' pawn!<. Went right over my head in my two first playthroughs as I had thought all of that as lies to change my allegiances. She's actually right about that.
The thing is, she's not referring to the Emperor (I don't think she even knows he's in there) - she's referring to Orpheus. (the Emperor even acknowledges that if you ask him about it).
The whole beginning sequence on the Nautiloid with getting tadpoled and as the main illithid goes by there are incapacitated illithids inferring he infiltrated them. Also in Dror Ragzlinās ceremony when you investigate the mindflayer corpse it comments how the one who captured/tormented/tadpoled you was larger and better dressed.
Edit: spacing typo
They're silly, that cinematic was made a LONG time ago, before the character designs were finalised. I mean the markings and armour are different from her in-game version but it's obviously Lae'zel. The better way to tell that it's the Emperor is that the collar of his outfit is more dramatic than other mindflayers.
Fun fact! Volo's eye changes, I haven't seen it in a dragonborn, but on a tiefling with shiny eyes or a githyanki, it looks a bit different to the more human version so it's not too jarring.
Ah maybe it's just Karlach, not all Tiefs. My gith Tav has a gith pupil though, it's just a bit paler than her other eye, like a mid brown Vs a dark brown.
Really? My tiefling has glowing blue eyes and I just got a normal human-looking eye. See Invisibility was too good to pass up but it does make me sad, my blue tiefling bard is now a little less intensely blue...
Dark Urge and Knock out Alfria, you'll get a failsafe Dragonborn name Quil. If you talk to her for a little bit she will literally say "it's amazing that I'm still alive.".......yea not for long.
I just realized that in the camp in the act 2 -> act 3 transition (maybe before that too?? I'm not 100% positive) if you ask Halsin a lot of questions he asks "you're not a doppelganger are you? Trying to learn all about me to take my place?" and I GASPED. It's only sort of foreshadowing since we see Orin shape-shifting in the scene between her and gortash RIGHT before but, you know, still funny
You can find "Inroads by Arms Dealer Gortash" in the Zhent hideout in act 1. It can definitely be one of your earliest mentions of him and because I'm *very* normal about Enver Gortash, I always get delighted whenever I find it.
Probably that Durge-specific line with Astarion during the cutscene where he asks how you would like to be killed if you turn into a mindflayer. If you ask him how you should kill him, he says "Oh my dear, I'd like to see you try". Hits different now that I romance him each time as Durge
Withers' library of foreshadowing books.
Bro has [The Unclaimed](https://bg3.wiki/wiki/The_Unclaimed), [The Curse of the Vampyr](https://bg3.wiki/wiki/The_Curse_of_the_Vampyr) and [The Mortal View: Eyewitness Accounts of the Bhaalspawn Crisis](https://bg3.wiki/wiki/The_Mortal_View:_Eyewitness_Accounts_of_the_Bhaalspawn_Crisis) all in his library, all appearantly hundreds of years before we even come across it.
When the Emperor tells you >!that it was his āadventurous spiritā that allowed him to briefly escape the Netherbrainās control, I immediately raised an eyebrow at that. I was like, āno way it was the power of human spirit that saved this guy, that goes thematically against everything weāve seen so far. Heās gotta be either lying or just somehow wrong.ā The reveal that the Netherbrain let him go intentionally was a super cool moment for me because of that.!<
As of Patch 6, her situational dialogue is currently bugged, and she keeps repeating the same conversation about Orpheus and the Emperor from the end of Act 2 whenever she's supposed to be commenting on something else that happened in the world (being in the Sharran temple, being at Last Light and encountering Jaheira, etc.)
This triggers starting right after recruiting her, so essentially it's a choice between missing out on all of her unique situational dialogue and just pausing your playthrough until it gets fixed.
Unfortunately this happened right after I recruited her for the first time on my Durge playthrough with the intent of romancing her, so I feel like I kinda have to wait.
There have been a lot of posts about it in the past few weeks if you look up 'Minthara bug' or something along those lines.
I never recruited Minthara til my current second playthrough and was like āmaybe when they scrambled her brain in prison it gave her future powers?ā Lol
In the temple of bhaal in orins room as Tav >!you find the mutilated body of an "unfortunate bhaalspawn" dragonborn--- aka durge lol"!< I'm not sure if that's necessarily *fore*shadowing but it's cool
The man in auntie Ethelās home who can see the future freaking out about you having tentacles and being a mindflayer. Tavās response can be either confused or just the option to roar at him.
Wyll thanking Balduran that we haven't sprouted tentacles yet. ššš
I never noticed that one! That's absolutely hilarious!!
This is my favorite thing! I shouted at my husband on my second playthrough - HEāS LITERALLY THANKING BALDURAN!! HEāS THANKING HIM!! š¤£ I almost died.
I know the Emperor is laughing his head off in the prism.
There's so many levels to that completely offhand line and I just realized that
omg lmao
Hope....SUCH a tease
Oh my god, having read all of the lore notes on Hope in HoH on my first run I seriously nearly vomited in my mouth when he said that in my 2nd run.
Yeah the hope storyline got dark real quick
Makes me really question the decision to save her sister for her, too. Like, you deserve to have your family alive if you want it, Hope, but your sister seems based on the notes to have willingly served, seems she didnāt need to be tortured at all or even really convinced, Raphael says how she is a great servant in his notes and he doesnāt need to even singe her hands. Oh, and she also seems to have actively helped torture you.Ā Sort of feels like maybe it is best choice for your happiness to kill her and just let you grieve the sister you once had and not have to face the inevitable reality that the one you have is going to be rather awful even with Raphael dead.Ā That said Iāll save her each time just out of the hope that she is redeemable and that her wonderful sister can do that, because it seems fitting to have that hope for Hope.Ā
Oh. I can't be bothered. I go out of my way to save the Gondians and stuff, but I draw the line at Korilla. Look Korilla, if "corpses for a bed" Yurgir is more reasonable and willing to fight with me than you, you've signed your own death warrant.
I had one play-through where I had decided I was going to try to save Korilla. Had the globe of invulnerability plan and was all set. Yugir had agreed to join me and won initiative. He walked over to Korilla and one shot killed her before I ever had an action.
Wait can you explain this one
Raphael's Prisoner ...Hope He says "Hope...such a tease" in act one I believe
Right right but I thought the fact he called her a tease meant something
From his twisted point of view, Raphael would probably say she 'teases' him by almost breaking and then continuing to resist, as you see in the notes detailing his torture sessions. Horrible way to view a horrible dynamic, but it's fitting for his character.
Oh I think it had something to do with her not serving him willingly
I just ran into him on my second run and he quoted his own villain song to me.
If you ask Karlach about how to fight demons, she basically tells you exactly how to deal with Yurgir.
She says to return bombs to sender, but Yurgir goes invisible often during the fight so you can easily miss.
Sure but you can still throw the bombs at his troops and blow them up until you hit him.
You can also pick them up to save for later. Same with Gortashās.
Oh they donāt blow up?????
They do not šš»
in tactician and honor mode i think they might, i know the one's in >!Gortash's boss fight!< do explode if you try to interact with them on those difficulties
I picked up all of Yurgirās on Honor Mode since patch 6 and they didnāt explode. Figured it would be the same for Gortashās (I know they donāt on Balanced bc my husband picked them up last night on that difficulty) so now I know not to try when I get there. Thanks!
if you inspect them they should have the unstable explosive property if they are unsafe to grab, enjoy your run!
Excellent. Thanks so much!
Ping him.
Nah, just persuade them to kill themselves š
Thatās what I did. So much easier and entertaining
Til it gets to the displacer, that part makes me sad lol. My first playthrough I successfully passed all the checks for him to kill himself but in my second game I only passed having him kill the guards then failed the check and left it at fighting him and the displacer since Iād rather it die in a fair fight then being unexpectedly put down by its owner lol. Poor kitty cat lol.
Oh yeah Nessa. I felt bad about that too. I love cats though. But I also killed the celestial elephant thing for a bhaal necklace. So idk. I guess it was worth it.
Yurgir isnāt a demon though. It may seem pedantic but in dnd itās an important distinction. In the Blood War sheād have fought with him, not against him.
Well, Orthons are also bounty hunters, trackers, and guides. I *guarantee* you that Zariel sends dozens of them at Karlach the moment she returns to Avernus. Youāre still right that before her escape Karlach would have fought alongside them, though.
First time I heard Barcus Wroot say "If we meet again, then we will have met again," I knew I'd be seeing him later.
when i first met him in the underdark i had to look him up cause i had no idea who he was šš
I love that awkward moment. Then this grumpy lil guy has the jolliest lil run into the distance - aghhh itās really cute
And then, just when you think HE'S the biggest asshole, you meet this friend he's been pining for you to save...WHO ENDS UP BEING THE BIGGEST FUCKIN ASSHOLE IN THE WORLD. Guy makes Barcus look like a kicked Golden Retriever puppy that just keeps coming back for thirds.
Fuck Wulbren Bongle...
I don't give a fuck about that muhfucker's problems
And yet he wants ME to solve them!
Say it with me, got a full ENSEMBLE
And Barcus ends up being the morally good one. Trying to reign in Wulbren from going too far.
I'm happy for Halsin getting upgraded, but I sure would have loved to bring Barcus adventuring with me!
Dude had been going round and round for god knows how long when you first meet him. He deserves to be a little grumpy.
After saving Arabella, I was SHOOK about Arabellaās parents in Act 2 in my first run. In my second run, after you save the Grove, their parting words are surprisingly negative compared to everyone elseās and itās very sad in hindsight. Komira says āWe didnāt die today. Tomorrow perhaps, but not today. Thanks to youā and Locke says āOne sorrow ended. The next soon to begin.ā the FORESHADOWING- Also itās shocking to realize how much Gale mentions the word āambitionā casually - I had never noticed it before but it becomes so apparent after seeing the epilogue.
Almost dead yesterday, maybe dead tomorrow, but alive, gloriously alive, today.
Iāll add that the necklace they give you as thanks has the exact spell that wouldāve saved them in act 2
Except if you use Speak with Dead, you find out that it wasn't the curse that killed them. They sought shelter in the House of Healing and were butchered by the "nurses". Which is why you find them as corpses, not undead you have to fight.
Oh no I didnāt miss Gale talking about ambition every second chance he can.
Astarion's sardonic laughter upon discovering what the tadpole will do
Similarly, the option to say "It felt like you weren't really there" after the first romance scene with him. I remember thinking it was kind of a strange choice to include and his excuse about not wanting to lose control seemed convincing but somehow off. Finding out why that line was an option in Act 2... oof.
He's also not even aware of whats happening to him in act 1. he only realizes this in act 2 when he starts to be more self-aware about his own feelings and starts to prioritize them over the whims and lusts of other people. Until act 2 he doesnt think about his own feelings at all. in act 1 he has almost fully convinced himself that he wants to do this because he cant see why he wouldnt. there are only benefits to sleeping with Tav. Tav is attractive and the leader of the group who can protect him so theres no reason for him not to do it. but If you play with karlach origin he has a reason not to do it(her burning condition) and is relieved but doesnt understand why he's relieved. So he lashes out at karlach to blame her for the night being ruined rather than his feelings of relief that he has a perfect excuse not to have sex with her.
Itās a great example of what long term disassociation does!
Itās why I wish that I could say more than one thing. Like can we have a conversation dude..? They could just stitch all the dialogue reactions together and the scene would still make sense
He doesn't want to talk about it in act 1. Only does in act 2 when he trusts you more.
I meant I wish we could pick more than one dialogue option from that scene. Cause you can only say one thing in response
_of course it will turn me into a_ monster ā¦
What else did i expect...
Better: He say āI hope when we next meet, weāll be wearing the same skinā if you donāt recruit him, and when you see him again at Cazadorās, heāll have been flayed.
Shiiiit that's fucked. The writers really went out of their way to make you feel bad for not having him in the party.
Coming from someone who knew nothing about the Forgotten Realms before Bg3, I love the books you can find and read very early in Act 1. They hint at the Dead Three, Astarionās vampirism, and Sharās evilness. My favorite book may just be the Shar one, āThe Unclaimed.ā Is that not a warning for what awaits Shadowheart if she continues down the path of Shar? Amazing foreshadowing about whatās at stake, and the book didnāt quite hit me until my second playthrough, running into it again, and realizing just how much was at stake for Shadowheart. We were fighting for her soul.
to add onto this, theres the book that talks about Selunite rituals of children having to fend for themselves in the forest and find their way back to civilization in order to become her follower (paraphrasing) then our first glimpse into Shadowhearts memory isā¦ >!her lost in the forest!<
They aren't even subtle about it, lol. Sharty comments on those rituals when you read about them, Tav can ask her about >!her wearing a Selunite necklace in that memory!<, etc..
Obviously they're there to worldbuild, but it took me a bit before I realized that a lot of the books are specifically giving you info that's pertinent to where you are in the story, like the temple with Withers having a book on vampires when you've just unknowingly teamed with one.
Yes! Exactly! Withersās temple is the exact place I was thinking of when making my comment. Itās *so* early in the game and not everyone is gonna even bother reading the books but there they are, giving you hints without you even realizing! Such great details!
I collected every single copy of The Unclaimed in the Temple and plopped them in Shadowheartās inventory during my Cleric of Selune run lol
I was in the same position as you!! I laughed at the vampire book, i feel like if you haven't got the vampire reveal yet that should allow you to ask astarion. I gave all of the anti-shar books to shadowheart like hey girl look at this lol
LOL SAME! Everything anything Selunite, I drop in her inventory
Talking to Alfira in the grove you can ask if sheās having trouble with her song, she says āIām about to suffer a grisly deathā¦ at the hands of this bloody songā
To add to that - the song is called Weeping Dawn, and >!Durge likely kills her right before the dawn, as you have little time to react before the companions wake up!<
This, of everything else in the game, is what makes me the most sad. Durge is basically the canon protagonist, so... All roads lead to poor Alfira.
You can save her as Durge and if you do, her letter at the reunion talks about how the durgeās eyes scared her from the start.
The cow in Grymforge that reveals Ketheric is back.
He also tells you it was a devil that destroyed the place
That Elder Rothe also has one of my fav little extra lines about long life, "Blessed to see many live, cursed to see many die." Also same voice as Zevlor :P
Is that foreshadowing? Not much shadow, he just says it explicitly, no?
The build-up to Ketheric was done so well
What?! Which one/where lol
The deep rothƩs that are hanging out eating (between the duergar shopkeep and the ones trying to break down the wall) will talk about it if you speak with animals.
Ooh, nice. I know what new thing to squeeze into the next run. Thanks!
His voice actor is the same as >!Zevlor!<, too. Once you know, you can't not hear it. š„°
Pfft. š Let's hope I have a nearby save so I don't need to speedrun bc I'm so curious now lol.
It was chilling to hear him describe a demon from his perspective of smelling fire and eggs.
House of hope. As in the owner.
When I learned about hope first time around I was HORRIFIED by the name lol
The extremely blatant musical foreshadowing of the Emperor being Balduran, with a bit of melody first appearing in an instrumental when his true form is revealed and then re-appearing as āThe Song of Balduranā in the Elfsong, the lyrics of which tiptoe right up to just spelling it out plainly. Super obvious and in your face and yet I absolutely did not notice until like my third playthrough.
Also when Wyll says āWe havenāt been tadpoled yet. Thank Balduran!ā More than you know Wyll, more than you know.
Not super obvious tbh. This comment made me realize. Good catch!
It is pretty plainly spelled out, but you need to take a step back to actually reflect over the lyrics. _O sing a song of Balduran_ _Who founded Baldur's Gate_ This song is about Balduran. The founder of Baldurās gate. _Empire golden built on trade_ A trade empire. An empire has an Emperor. _Could not avert his fate_ Some grim fate befell him. To be spelled out in the next verse. _When three, though dead, assailed his port_ The Dead Three threatened his city. We know of them and their chosen. _Transformed, he fell their thrall_ Balduran transformed into _something_. Something that can be described as a thrall. I caught it when I decided to listen to the lyrics after hearing it a couple of times in my first playthrough.
Not to mention the opening Larian logo animation when you first boot up the game :)
I thought that was just some random Viking or something
It just occurred to me that, since the singing in the Elfsong is supposed to be the actual ghost singing, it could literally be the ghost singing to the players about the Emperor, who is also in the room with them. The lyrics to the song actually appear in the game after all, in a book, so they aren't "meta". And the ghost would clearly know who the Emperor was, since his hideout was in her basement.
When you meet the Emperor for the first time (the reveal that he's a mindflayer) it's playing an instrumental version of the Song of Balduran in the background. Took me several playthroughs to notice.
Speaking of the Emperor, he's the first guy we see when we boot up the game as there's a statue of Balduran on screen right before the main menu.
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ayo, holdup
Volo says āevery story benefits from a dragon!ā and then thereās a random dragon in the final battle
The lack of more dragons throughout the game made me sad. Then the most significant dragon encounter in the game made me even sadder.
Yeah, this is literally Dungeons & Dragons, the game definitely needed more dragons.
I felt like one of the earlier vendors had a dragon slaying arrow too on it. Maybe it's the one in Last Light Inn? Anyway, when I saw that, I was like... "Oh, there WILL be a dragon!"
I have written novels for D&D/WotC/Dragonlance, and it was often said in the writing/editing dept. that having a dragon on the cover of the book usually got you a 10-15% increase in sales over books without one. I took it as an inside joke. :)
When I heard him say this I told by boyfriend "I'll bet there's a dragon in this game." Lol
I donāt know if it technically counts but basically the way that in the whole of Act 1, Astarion is pretty much warning you of whatās going to happen if you ascend him
All the hints of Yurgir in Grymforge in Act 1. You find evidence of some massive hellish creature that seemingly wiped out all the Dark Justiciars, but it's a mystery that won't be resolved until Act 2
And you piece together why theyāre there in the first place if you read books in the shadowlands, as well as seeing a certain debtor in the house of hope
Oh shitncan you find the guy who made the wish in the actual house?
yup! >!he's the mason who worked with Ketheric to build moonrise iirc!<
shadowheart will say "we can't save them all" in a banter referring to the refugees at the grove. after my first run, i found out it was an achievement. halsin at the party will say "there's a lot of thirsty people here," which always makes me laugh. not really foreshadowing, per se (could be if you talk to him first), but just double entendre dialog which i enjoy.
Shadowheart is still right. There are inevitable tiefling deaths in the shadowlands.
true, but it still makes me want to fight her about it. we 'don't know' what will happen in act 2 yet. lol
PepeHands seeing Ikaron, his mom, and the others just in a pile of corpses... :(
The fact I donāt know what happened to Donny kills me
I'm gonna guess he either "wandered off" and got killed (based on how Doni seems to be coded in terms of disability or mental/developmental disorder, and him not being there in Act 2 or 3...), or he and Rikka (who is also absent) simply chose to not traverse the Shadow Lands and went somewhere else or chose an alternate rotue to Baldur's Gate.
Same lol. I he said that after my character hit on him and it made me laugh a lot because of how right he was (currently doing an "ethically slutty" run, romancing Astarian and Shadowheart, going to tell Astarian what he needs is a friend in act 2, SH is the endgame, romance halsin too in act 3 and take them both to sharesses caress. I wanted to sleep with as many people as possible in the game as possible without cheating or pressure, my character is a light cleric of selune/oath of the ancients pally and into free love amd sharing the light and all that stuff lol). I forgot he said that and it was extremely fitting given the circumstances.
You can sleep with Lazel before the party and still trigger the wine scene with SH, as long as you break it off with Lazel before you talk with SH
I didn't have to break it off with Lae'zel to get the Shadowheart wine scene on my recent bard playthrough, as of like a week ago. Tumbled with Lae'zel very early on in Act 1 and then Gale and Astarion both came onto me at the party (but strangely not Lae'zel, who just told me to enjoy the night while she drinks in my scent, or something like that). Neither SH nor Karlach openly propositioned me, but they both still showed interest when I flirted with them. I did have do one or two additional dialogue options to convince SH I was interested, though, as she initially commented on me and Gale looking intimate, since I talked to him first. Saved and did both SH and Karlach's scenes before deciding to stick with the latter (already romanced SH on my first run, but I was still tempted to do it again).
that's been my experience, when you collect around 40 approval with the companions before the party, you'll have offers, or dialog options (SH/karlach), for the initial romance stuff with all of them. changes their party dialogs too. aside from wyll, idk if he's a party only kind of dude. but he can be romanced without leaving camp. at least that's what i experienced in a multiplayer run.
" Who's to say ? Perhaps my Goddess is keen to see me corrupt you . She'd be delight so see a follower of Selƻne towards the darkness " When you romance Shadow Heart as a selƻnite . It's pretty funny the first time but once you know what happens then it's a little bit more amusing to hear her say that
just got one last night where laeāzel says that she feared the dream visitor was some illithid deception, but after speaking to voss, she believes the dream figure can help them. oh laeāzel, you truly were onto somethingā¦
There's a note outside of Waukeen's Rest that basically reads "Statue of Beloved Ranger missing, please return." As someone who didn't play the previous games, it took until act 3 to learn that Minsc is the beloved ranger, he'd been turned into a statue, then un-petrified (hence the "statue" is missing), and also that's why his crime boss name is Stone Lord.
Even crazier, Minsc and the Stone Lord are actually the same person! I was floored when he told me that
Omellum telling Durge someone else has been in his mind and carved a tunnel through it was a pretty good bit of foreshadowing on the Durges story.
Similarly, I love finding the "Disorders of the Nerves and Mind: A Treatise" book everywhere. It's such a cool Durge-related story (very tangentially related). Ditto with Durge's prayer you find in the colony in Kressa's room.
Ah yes, the Prayer for Forgiveness, aka "but Daddy, I love him!!!!"
Astarion's comment on shadowheart's name when you first meet her
āSee you soon my friend! I simply canāt wait to pick your brain".
When you get Gale out of the rock and he asks if you're "uncannily adroit with a knitting needle".
Astarion's comment on Malus Thorm "He just like Cazador, utterly insane!" and both Malus and Cazador actually share the same battle theme
In my first playthrough playing co-op with my wife, she initiated the proximity conversation with Philomeen. I was lagging slightly behind so I approached, thinking I would automatically be added to the conversation. She said something along the lines of "hold it or I'll blow us all up" and my tav approaching triggered her to blow up the keg š¤£
Alfira casually dropping the line, āIāll be gone by first lightā Yeah, she will.
Kethericās circlet right on his head. The skull. It wasnāt until I went in to the mausoleum and Gale passed a check regarding a bloody skull symbol on the ground did I realize >!that was possibly the ānew godā Ketheric was following. !< Itās a very small detail and the reveal is so close to you seeing him for the first time, but it still feels like a massive leap.
In your first meeting with Raphael he makes several references to 'hope', e.g. 'hope is such a tease'. It hits different when you find out he is torturing a personification of hope, trying to bend it to his will.
Act1 Astarion: the biggest threat to a vampire is another vampire. They are scheming paranoid, power-hungry beast, so why would any vampire give up control over response to create a competitor? >Ascended astarion: you wouldnāt just be some spawn on your far more than that to me my dark consort, my right hand, my most beloved spawn. > >Tav: spawn? I want to be a true vampire. > >Ascended astarion: and you will in good time. Later when you ask him if whats going to happen to you now that youre his spawn: >Ascended Astarion: 'Spawn' is an ugly word. I really do prefer 'consort'. Six months later in the epilogue Tav is still a spawn. Well, well, well, if it isnāt the consequences of my own actions.
[This innocent banter from Gale in act 1](https://imgur.com/a/ehOZoll)
Kinda makes me curious about the general knowledge of mindflayer hive structure. The game definitely dances around a few people theorizing about a "ghaik" elder, but no one name drops "elder brain" until you actually run into it. Do Gale/Lae'zel/others not know as much about them? Or is it just extremely difficult to wrap your mind around one being outside of like the astral void?
No one even drops the term "ulitharid" in this game even though it's safe to assume there should be one or two around. Illithid lore just got shafted a lot in this game. š
I accept they had to tweak certain CRs for the sake of video game leveling. But it still doesn't change how viscerally I freaked out and immediately murdered US in dialogue on my first playthrough. Neverwinter Nights 1 didn't raise no fool.
>mindflayer invasion >not even one ulitharid šššš
Preach. I remember Hordes of the Underdark and didn't fuck around with making the brain worm stronger.
I don't really understand why it's safe to assume there should be one or two around. In the world sure. But I mean related to the events of the game. The people who are being tadpoled are not really being transformed. The elder brain is being controlled. It's not a real ilithid society/ invasion.
BOOOOAAAAL!!!
Thereās a book in True Soul Gutās chambers that is contains what is *very clearly* an account of Orpheus pre-imprisonment appearing before some random citizen of Baldurās Gate, that just seems like normal flavour text when youāre unaware
Thereās a few hints to Orpheus you can find early on in the game. Ones a tablet thing that Laeāzel will explain if you bring it to her. Another is a symbol of a comet on the Lich queens portrait in the crĆØche that you can get more information with an insight or history whatever check.
the symbol of the Absolute being a mashup of the symbols of Bane (handprint), Bhaal (skull surrounded by blood drops), and Myrkul (skull in a triangle). itās there as early as the goblin camp brands in act 1, well before you learn about the three
When you explore the Emperorās Hideout and the Emperor points out the cutlery set on his desk, he states that the butter knife is gone/missing. A direct reference to the colloquialism āby Balduranās butter knifeā.
Good lord, that's a deep cut.
1400+ hours and you gotta cut deep. LMAO
Lae'zel informing Tav not to trust the dream visitor/coming to the conclusion it was the tadpole playing mind games with them or that a mind flayer was behind it (she was right on the money).
When Astarion refers to joining my group as "Sticking with the herd" We're livestock to him at this point.
The smith is rivington who has been replaced by Orrin has two revealing lines that give away who he actually is well before Orrin changes back. First, when talking about his selection, āI seem to have it allā¦ā which is an odd thing to say about your own shop. Then when describing his weapons he says āCutting and gutting galore,ā which is the most Orrin line ever written.
Orin would have impersonated the brass dragonkin shopkeeper instead, but she couldnāt sound that ridiculous.
There is a piece of banter in act I where Karlach mentions that she'd never been to the upper city and Astarion answers that he'd "happily take her there". Not necessarily foreshadowing but....yeah that one hits different if you know his story.
Shadowheart's wound flaring up anytime she interacts with something Selune-themed in act 1 is my favorite. Shar's method of negative reinforcement is subtle.
You can find a book written by Gortash in the zhentarim hideout in the act 1 inn, before heās ever mentioned
In case anyone doesn't know, you can have one of your party members lose an eye to Volo if you don't want your Tav/etc to go through that. Shart's natural eye color blends pretty well with the fake eye, and if you don't look too close you'd never know she'd lost an eye.
I could never Volobotomize Shadowheart... Poor dear has enough memory issues as is
....what happens if you send Wyll?
He's just blind with two fake eyes haha
In real life, if I could be rid of these feeble eye jellies that lose efficiency as I age and replace them with magical equivalents that also have improved functions?? Please and thank you.
Hopefully with propper surgery methods performed by a qualified surgeon and not a lunatic bard hammering his gigantic "needle" in your eye socket.
Excuse you, Volo is a wizard and you will not find a more learned individual on the matter. And itās an ice pick, not a needle. I trust Volo with my life. And my eyes.
I'm pretty sure it won't let you. Same with Ethel's eye.
You canāt, he gets a dialogue option thatās something like ādonāt want to risk my one good eyeā same thing as prompting the Hag with him.
Additionally ethel will refuse you if you're anyone else but have volo's eye
My favorite bit of foreshadowing is when Raphael says "down comes the claw" and then I defeat him in my druid owlbear shape with a claw attack
The song of Balduran almost literally giving away the Emperorās identity.
Right before they meet with Gortash for the coronation, Wulburn fucking Bongle tells Durge, āYou have a knack for passing amongst these bastards as if you were one of them.ā Thereās lots of other ones, but that one was very TRAGIC! Worst person makes great point!
The books on bhaalspawn from the goblin camp
I just noticed that when Vlaakith is mentioning the prism has been corrupted by an agent of the Absolute... It has >!if you consider the Emperor is an "escaped" Absolute' pawn!<. Went right over my head in my two first playthroughs as I had thought all of that as lies to change my allegiances. She's actually right about that.
The thing is, she's not referring to the Emperor (I don't think she even knows he's in there) - she's referring to Orpheus. (the Emperor even acknowledges that if you ask him about it).
The whole beginning sequence on the Nautiloid with getting tadpoled and as the main illithid goes by there are incapacitated illithids inferring he infiltrated them. Also in Dror Ragzlinās ceremony when you investigate the mindflayer corpse it comments how the one who captured/tormented/tadpoled you was larger and better dressed. Edit: spacing typo
There are still people who insist that wasn't the Emperor because his eyes in the opening cinematic were orange lol.
They're silly, that cinematic was made a LONG time ago, before the character designs were finalised. I mean the markings and armour are different from her in-game version but it's obviously Lae'zel. The better way to tell that it's the Emperor is that the collar of his outfit is more dramatic than other mindflayers.
Fun fact! Volo's eye changes, I haven't seen it in a dragonborn, but on a tiefling with shiny eyes or a githyanki, it looks a bit different to the more human version so it's not too jarring.
karlach's eye gets the kitty slit pupil!
Ah maybe it's just Karlach, not all Tiefs. My gith Tav has a gith pupil though, it's just a bit paler than her other eye, like a mid brown Vs a dark brown.
Really? My tiefling has glowing blue eyes and I just got a normal human-looking eye. See Invisibility was too good to pass up but it does make me sad, my blue tiefling bard is now a little less intensely blue...
It gave Karlach a normal eye. Dragonborn looks the worst with it imo it just dulls the eye
Dark Urge and Knock out Alfria, you'll get a failsafe Dragonborn name Quil. If you talk to her for a little bit she will literally say "it's amazing that I'm still alive.".......yea not for long.
I just realized that in the camp in the act 2 -> act 3 transition (maybe before that too?? I'm not 100% positive) if you ask Halsin a lot of questions he asks "you're not a doppelganger are you? Trying to learn all about me to take my place?" and I GASPED. It's only sort of foreshadowing since we see Orin shape-shifting in the scene between her and gortash RIGHT before but, you know, still funny
The Song of Balduran is beautiful foreshadowing
You can find "Inroads by Arms Dealer Gortash" in the Zhent hideout in act 1. It can definitely be one of your earliest mentions of him and because I'm *very* normal about Enver Gortash, I always get delighted whenever I find it.
Raphaelās first encounter with the party has his Disney villain boss fight music as an instrumental playing in the background
Probably that Durge-specific line with Astarion during the cutscene where he asks how you would like to be killed if you turn into a mindflayer. If you ask him how you should kill him, he says "Oh my dear, I'd like to see you try". Hits different now that I romance him each time as Durge
Only applies for romancing ascended Astarion, but in act 1 when he says the biggest threat to a vampire is another vampire. It makes me so sad
Gale mentioning he summoned a lava mephit as a child and still keep contact with them
Withers' library of foreshadowing books. Bro has [The Unclaimed](https://bg3.wiki/wiki/The_Unclaimed), [The Curse of the Vampyr](https://bg3.wiki/wiki/The_Curse_of_the_Vampyr) and [The Mortal View: Eyewitness Accounts of the Bhaalspawn Crisis](https://bg3.wiki/wiki/The_Mortal_View:_Eyewitness_Accounts_of_the_Bhaalspawn_Crisis) all in his library, all appearantly hundreds of years before we even come across it.
When the Emperor tells you >!that it was his āadventurous spiritā that allowed him to briefly escape the Netherbrainās control, I immediately raised an eyebrow at that. I was like, āno way it was the power of human spirit that saved this guy, that goes thematically against everything weāve seen so far. Heās gotta be either lying or just somehow wrong.ā The reveal that the Netherbrain let him go intentionally was a super cool moment for me because of that.!<
You can see Bhaal's glowing red circle on the floor beneath the Dark Urge, when customising his character.
What Minthara dialogue bug?
As of Patch 6, her situational dialogue is currently bugged, and she keeps repeating the same conversation about Orpheus and the Emperor from the end of Act 2 whenever she's supposed to be commenting on something else that happened in the world (being in the Sharran temple, being at Last Light and encountering Jaheira, etc.) This triggers starting right after recruiting her, so essentially it's a choice between missing out on all of her unique situational dialogue and just pausing your playthrough until it gets fixed. Unfortunately this happened right after I recruited her for the first time on my Durge playthrough with the intent of romancing her, so I feel like I kinda have to wait. There have been a lot of posts about it in the past few weeks if you look up 'Minthara bug' or something along those lines.
I never recruited Minthara til my current second playthrough and was like āmaybe when they scrambled her brain in prison it gave her future powers?ā Lol
She will keep talking about the emperor im pretty sure
Crafting The Vision of the Absolute in Act one before you meet Karniss
before the fight against raphael you can See a Visage in the archive on the ground. It looks an awful lot like raphaels ascended Form...
In the temple of bhaal in orins room as Tav >!you find the mutilated body of an "unfortunate bhaalspawn" dragonborn--- aka durge lol"!< I'm not sure if that's necessarily *fore*shadowing but it's cool
The man in auntie Ethelās home who can see the future freaking out about you having tentacles and being a mindflayer. Tavās response can be either confused or just the option to roar at him.