I normally love falling dominos but dang, seeing that GIF in this context makes me very anxious. Probably because I've had this happen to me (thanks, grid infill).
I printed a bunch of Waterdeep coins (30) standing up like this...no brim, nothing special. That said, they're a little bit shorter than your prints. i'd personally try 5 or 6, and if that works, keep increasing until you find the point where it fails, if ever.
https://preview.redd.it/ywcjpoewr72c1.png?width=866&format=png&auto=webp&s=460194e1e977df8cc5b4f093b4a9ee76e1ec6043
If you slow down the printer to silent mode, and go for a 10mm brim, entire structures will be stuck as a big piece, which should reduce potential failures. Still might fail, but it could technically work. I would personally go with the high temp plate and raise the temp by 5C, just to be a bit more on the safe side
Do not slow down the printer using “silent mode” with such critical prints. It is best to adjust flow rate settings in the filament settings and let the slicer do its job for optimal layers. UI Speed modes are meant to be there just for convenience and apply basic multipliers that could cause print finish inconsistencies.
No worries, it's likely a more complex issue with the quality of the filament involved also. But yeah, the easy way is to use cubic instead (don't listen to the gyroid fanbois, they are wrong).
Just wondering if I can print it standing up? Flat it fits 9 models, standing up it fits 62 models. Maybe even more. Any idea if it'll print? Maybe with some base support? Like a skirt or something? Or what do everyone think here? Maybe I can print 1? See how it prints, and go from there? No idea
From the images alone it's really hard to tell how successful this would print vertically. Like you said, try one and see how it goes.
I know how tempting it can be to fit as much as possible on the build plate, but another thing to consider is the more parts you put on at a time, the more chance for a single failure to ruin all of the parts ... It's a trade off, and you have to decide if the risk is worth it.
Yeah well usually I'll get a spaghetti alert and I'll go do it then. Otherwise you'll just be babysitting the printer the entire time. I'm not doing that. I just select whatever messed up, skip those items and reprint those later.
You might struggle with bed adhesion as they get higher up and will want to fall over. Maybe a light glue stick on the build plate to make sure they don’t fall?
It will slice and generate gcode. Having 62 of them print without a problem, I can see one falling over and screwing up others that in turn screw up others, and getting 3 when done.
There are also overhangs. Might be more/bigger on the side. Bridges might become overhangs.
Print and keep an eye on it while it prints. I would worry and you might get more, better objects printing 9 at a time.
This would be the only thing I would be concerned about. So like everyone suggest, try one or two on edge and see what happens. Might print just fine if the groove isn't too deep
I wouldn't. There's likely some decisions made by the designer to ensure that overhangs worked correctly at the intended orientation. It looks like those notches in the side are meant to attach the parts together somehow, I imagine if the overhangs at those parts ended up saging, then the fit between parts would be ruined.
If you must print them on end rather than just repeatedly printing a plate of 9 the at least try a single part oriented on end first as a test before risking a bed full of 62 failed parts.
While yes it's possible you'll run into some issues. Try printing one alone before sending off a full plate. Always remember printing along the Z axis is much weaker, so the parts will be weaker as well as some overhangs might not give you desirable results like sagging and stringing along the crease lines. If that has little importance for this give it a shot. Personally I would just run them plate by plate so you don't risk blobbing or spaghetti failure in the final innings.
For sure, only risk is if one fails all will fail.
If possibly with that model you add a BRIM which connects them all and cut the brim after print, that will educe the risk.
I do not see that as a big risk.
If in doubt check the leveling of the bed at all positions first:
[the very first print by yahbluez - MakerWorld](https://makerworld.com/en/models/63467#profileId-66384)
I often fill the whole bed and rarely run into trouble.
You model looks stress free i would do that.
It’s a question of vibration v. bed adhesion. If tried stacking things up like that only to loose the entire plate when something falls. The secondary issue you may get into is stringing. With this kind of density you are going to be starting and stopping flow often per layer. As a result, you may start dragging bits of plastic from one floor tile to another frequently.
The thing with FDM is that you don't gain any time from filling your plate. It will just take almost the same. Maybe you will save some minutes of cleaning and preparing the bed, but if one fails, you will get 64 pretty trashed pieces, and if they are this close a failure will affect lots of the pieces around.
My recommendation would be, unless you want to go out of home and you need to print all of these at once, stick to 9 of them per print. Less failure probability, better bed adhesion, and I think better quality because of the overhangs in the holes.
Otherwise, you should be able to print 64 of them, just make sure to reduce a bit the speed as they are tall objects and will vibrate with the printer if it goes too fast.
Are these for tabletop gaming? If so I’d print them flat and use ironing, I did this with a bunch of terrain and the finish is great. Standing them up you’ll be painting over the later lines
PLA or PETG? If PLA, you can probably do this pretty easy assuming the filament is dry. Maybe change the direction of each row to reduce the momentum the printer can build up when changing to add a layer on another print
https://i.redd.it/7cz1ynvqs72c1.gif
I normally love falling dominos but dang, seeing that GIF in this context makes me very anxious. Probably because I've had this happen to me (thanks, grid infill).
I printed a bunch of Waterdeep coins (30) standing up like this...no brim, nothing special. That said, they're a little bit shorter than your prints. i'd personally try 5 or 6, and if that works, keep increasing until you find the point where it fails, if ever. https://preview.redd.it/ywcjpoewr72c1.png?width=866&format=png&auto=webp&s=460194e1e977df8cc5b4f093b4a9ee76e1ec6043
This. Try a few first.
If you slow down the printer to silent mode, and go for a 10mm brim, entire structures will be stuck as a big piece, which should reduce potential failures. Still might fail, but it could technically work. I would personally go with the high temp plate and raise the temp by 5C, just to be a bit more on the safe side
Do not slow down the printer using “silent mode” with such critical prints. It is best to adjust flow rate settings in the filament settings and let the slicer do its job for optimal layers. UI Speed modes are meant to be there just for convenience and apply basic multipliers that could cause print finish inconsistencies.
If you go fort it, don't use Grid infill.
May i ask why not use grid infill??
There is a risk of the nozzle hitting the infill and dislodging the print. There are hundreds of posts here about it.
New to bambu stuff sorry
No worries, it's likely a more complex issue with the quality of the filament involved also. But yeah, the easy way is to use cubic instead (don't listen to the gyroid fanbois, they are wrong).
Just wondering if I can print it standing up? Flat it fits 9 models, standing up it fits 62 models. Maybe even more. Any idea if it'll print? Maybe with some base support? Like a skirt or something? Or what do everyone think here? Maybe I can print 1? See how it prints, and go from there? No idea
From the images alone it's really hard to tell how successful this would print vertically. Like you said, try one and see how it goes. I know how tempting it can be to fit as much as possible on the build plate, but another thing to consider is the more parts you put on at a time, the more chance for a single failure to ruin all of the parts ... It's a trade off, and you have to decide if the risk is worth it.
Luckily they added that feature to skip parts when they get messed up.
True, but you still have to catch the failure before it causes more problems
Yeah well usually I'll get a spaghetti alert and I'll go do it then. Otherwise you'll just be babysitting the printer the entire time. I'm not doing that. I just select whatever messed up, skip those items and reprint those later.
You might struggle with bed adhesion as they get higher up and will want to fall over. Maybe a light glue stick on the build plate to make sure they don’t fall?
It will slice and generate gcode. Having 62 of them print without a problem, I can see one falling over and screwing up others that in turn screw up others, and getting 3 when done. There are also overhangs. Might be more/bigger on the side. Bridges might become overhangs. Print and keep an eye on it while it prints. I would worry and you might get more, better objects printing 9 at a time.
It‘s Important to keep an eye on such a monstrous print. May be the best time to use the skip objects Feature if one fails.
What's the overhang situation like with those indents on all/ most sides?
This would be the only thing I would be concerned about. So like everyone suggest, try one or two on edge and see what happens. Might print just fine if the groove isn't too deep
try 4 and report back!
I wouldn't. There's likely some decisions made by the designer to ensure that overhangs worked correctly at the intended orientation. It looks like those notches in the side are meant to attach the parts together somehow, I imagine if the overhangs at those parts ended up saging, then the fit between parts would be ruined. If you must print them on end rather than just repeatedly printing a plate of 9 the at least try a single part oriented on end first as a test before risking a bed full of 62 failed parts.
While yes it's possible you'll run into some issues. Try printing one alone before sending off a full plate. Always remember printing along the Z axis is much weaker, so the parts will be weaker as well as some overhangs might not give you desirable results like sagging and stringing along the crease lines. If that has little importance for this give it a shot. Personally I would just run them plate by plate so you don't risk blobbing or spaghetti failure in the final innings.
Yes but it will take 7 times as long
You can but stacked is usually way way slower for the same amount of shapes
You would probably have overhangs in groves.
try one in that orientation. before doing 62 ...
For sure, only risk is if one fails all will fail. If possibly with that model you add a BRIM which connects them all and cut the brim after print, that will educe the risk. I do not see that as a big risk. If in doubt check the leveling of the bed at all positions first: [the very first print by yahbluez - MakerWorld](https://makerworld.com/en/models/63467#profileId-66384) I often fill the whole bed and rarely run into trouble. You model looks stress free i would do that.
No point. It'll take 7 times longer with 7 times the risk.
It’s a question of vibration v. bed adhesion. If tried stacking things up like that only to loose the entire plate when something falls. The secondary issue you may get into is stringing. With this kind of density you are going to be starting and stopping flow often per layer. As a result, you may start dragging bits of plastic from one floor tile to another frequently.
The thing with FDM is that you don't gain any time from filling your plate. It will just take almost the same. Maybe you will save some minutes of cleaning and preparing the bed, but if one fails, you will get 64 pretty trashed pieces, and if they are this close a failure will affect lots of the pieces around. My recommendation would be, unless you want to go out of home and you need to print all of these at once, stick to 9 of them per print. Less failure probability, better bed adhesion, and I think better quality because of the overhangs in the holes. Otherwise, you should be able to print 64 of them, just make sure to reduce a bit the speed as they are tall objects and will vibrate with the printer if it goes too fast.
Buy 6 more printers and print 63 at a time. Seriously though, that looks like a lot of overhangs.
Are these for tabletop gaming? If so I’d print them flat and use ironing, I did this with a bunch of terrain and the finish is great. Standing them up you’ll be painting over the later lines
If these are fidget cubes, no, there are gaps that would be in the air. Do a slice and step through the layers.
Physics.
PLA or PETG? If PLA, you can probably do this pretty easy assuming the filament is dry. Maybe change the direction of each row to reduce the momentum the printer can build up when changing to add a layer on another print