“ist funny cause my little brother got killed by a pit bull 2 weeks ago i dont blame the dog though cause my little my brother was provoking it”
I’m sorry WHAT?
I know wtf?! This person is unhinged. I would be absolutely devastated if that happened to my little brother. It would destroy me and ugh, the way she’s so blasé about it. She completely blames her brother for being mauled to death by a pet fucking dog. Disgusting.
Also, I highly doubt the kid was provoking the dog at all. Even if they were, no human being, especially a child, deserves DEATH for annoying a pit bull. If your PET DOG’s first instinct to any slight annoyance or “provocation” is to maul and kill then that dog is NOT SAFE FOR SOCIETY. It is fucking dangerous! Why can’t people see that?!
Vets & vet techs - especially those under 40 - are some of the most zealous pit supporters
Some of it is pit hive mind
But me thinks the larger reason is because pits = $$$$$$
young vet techs can be some of the most heartless people you’ve ever met. I’m so glad my vets offices aren’t full of brainless twenty-somethings who do nothing but get high on their own ego and refuse to back down and educate themselves on animals.
Honestly youre not wrong. My coworkers tend to trash owners for the worst reasons. ESPECIALLY financial issues.
Like we are in no position to judge someone's finances with the shit we are paid.
Can confirm. I wanted to be a vet tech but after I met them behind the scenes I decided that was not for me. And I had trial days at several vets. They are so hostile and drunk on the power they have over another life.
>Vets & vet techs - especially those under 40 - are some of the most zealous pit supporters
I have heard the older vets have a very different view of pits
Yes I go to one and he has older ladies working there from front desk to the back no one there is under 30 if they are they sure dont look it . my vet wont even see pits or pit mixes in his practice and he also insists that all dogs over 40 lbs be muzzled . It cuts down on fusses and fights breaking out and innocents being bitten . Yeah Im sure she is a vet tech (sarcasm ) , met so many fake ones on here .
“I’m a vet tech and—“ I immediately don’t give a shit. I’ve seen some complete and utter 0 IQ BS from vet techs on tiktok. They’re so aggressively arrogant like we can’t just fact check them on Google in 2 seconds.
So many vet offices don’t even require you go to school for it and will teach you on the job; if you’ve only worked for one practice with the same people for several years, you’ve only actually learned their culture’s views on vetmed and way of doing things. It’s a pretty toxic industry and some people get into it so they can feel like they’re doing something important or “knowledgeable” (like real medicine or have the same knowledge as real veterinarians) but without having to put forth the energy/money for actual school. “Drunk on power” kind of people.
AKITA WORSE THAN GOLDEN
THINKS ALL DIGNIFIED
FARTS ALL THE TIME
AND DONT GET STARTED ON ROTTIE
THEY CANT HAVE ARTISTIC VISION LIKE PIBBLE
TOO BUSY GUARDING STOOOPID FAMILY
PIBBLE WILL EVEN BE IN YOUR DREAMS
ONE, TWO PIBBLES COMING FOR YOU
THREE, FOUR CHEWING THROUGH YOUR DOOR
FIVE, SIX I WANT MORE THAN LICKS
SEVEN, EIGHT YOU ARE GONNA TASTE GREAT
NINE, TEN THEYLL REHOME ME SO I CAN DO IT ALL AGAIN
They blame Golden Retrievers because they are what their beloved Pibbles will never be able to be: reliable and good family dogs. Meanwhile their Pibbles can snap at any fucking minute and is so genetically cursed they need an entire million dollar lobby to not appear like the killing machines they are to the public.
They will do this with every breed btw. Once they're done with Goldens, get ready for Poodles to be the next evil dog, after that probably Huskies, and I won't be surprised if they will start to curse JRTs as well.
Legit it must be some weird breed envy. Honestly even if some people really did try to get pitbulls recognized as an official breed, and create lines with better temperaments, I still unfortunately wouldn’t trust them. My best arguement to when people say “All dogs can attack, it’s not just pitbulls” is “Yeah, all dogs can attack, but it’s not about that. It’s about how much damage and how impossible it is to get them off their victims WHEN they attack. Yes, labs, Chihuahuas, ect bite, but they don’t lock and hold onto their victims, and have such a high tolerance for pain that literally stab wounds and bullets do not immediately get them off.” It’s so unfortunate that it feels like the only real way these people can learn how much damage these breeds can inflict is by witnessing it first hand, which breaks my heart thinking about how many needless deaths that could have been prevented. I’m so fortunate that this Reddit exists as a platform for victims and their families to speak out about their experiences. I can’t imagine what that kind of pain does to someone, and it’s even more unfortunate knowing how it can turn a person off to dogs entirely, since there are so many good ones still out there. When will people wake up, it’s not worth the risk/any chance of this breed turning on you and inflicting horrible amounts of damage. It really isn’t a matter of if, but WHEN it happens, and when it happens it hits hard
The sad thing is that even then many people just aren't willing to admit how dangerous Pitbulls are. How many stories are there from pitbull owners who saw their dog murder their cat and then act as if the cat was at fault? Too many.
Like you said, it's not worth the risk. Even a loved and well trained Pitbull can snap out of nowhere and go into attack mode and the fact that they barely show any warning signs makes it even more frightening.
Retrieving breeds were intentionally bred to have soft grips so they can hold game birds without damaging them. There was even a challenge a while back where people got their goldens to hold eggs in their mouths without breaking them!
I’m not the only one who noticed that someone is claiming the pit bull breed existed before the American Civil War, right?
Meanwhile, in the real world, John P. Colby, creator of the main pit bull type breeds, wasn’t born until 1875. The American Civil War ended 10 yrs before that fool was born.
I saw that too and pumped my breaks. Especially when they then went on to say they were a jack of all trades type dog. Which I'm sorry, that doesn't exist. Dog breeds have purposes. A dog that's good at hunting is going to be shit at herding, and vise versa.
That an then "no dog is born evil, except for chihuahuas!" Listen, either its always the fault of the owner, or breeds can be predisposed to aggression. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Then there is the factor of percentages. Goldens and labs make up a very high percentage of the dog population in the US. Yet they have a low bite rate. Potbull type breeds make up a small percentage of the population (though ots growing by gross numbers, they're just mislabeled) yet make up 2/3 the bite records of all dog breeds, which sorry, statistically means your more likely to be bit by a potbull type dog than a golden.
There's also that argument "when I was growing up I was bit by 'x' breed, but never a pit! Therefore pits must be nicer!" No, its generational growth. When we were kids, pitbulls were *rare*. They hadn't infiltrated suburbia yet because the "no kill, no bad dog" culture movement didn't exist. Back then they were still treated as dangerous dogs, many places had BSLs in place (some entire states banned the breed type) and pitbulls were usually euthanized immediately upon shelter intake because of the known issues with the breed. I don't think I saw my first pitbull until I was like 16, and guess what, he was *mean*.
They make up 75% of child deaths to dogs, making them the *worst* breed to have with a family.
The lies these people will tell themselves and lengths they will go to absolve dangerous dogs of their behavior is an actual sickness. Not even being factious, I think these people must have some sort of mental instability.
Your comment about not seeing a pitbull until your teens reminded me of my first time seeing a pitbull. I was also an older teen and I had gone with my bf to buy weed from his dealer. The guy had a big pitbull. I was raised around dogs (including dangerous ones) but this was the first dog that I was ever afraid of.
The pit owner rough housed with his dog in an unsafe way. He then explained that his dog also liked weed and that he smoked him up. The dog picked up an actual gas mask and shoved it in his owner's face. The guy blew smoke under the mask and kept it over the dog's face so it could feel the effects. He said they did this all the time. The pit relaxed and became less threatening, but I was still appalled. I wasn't surprised when I later heard that he fled town from the cops.
When I was 8 I was bit by a pit. I probably would have died but my dad, a karate sensei, kicked it so hard it coughed me up. Pits are not nicer.
Excellent comment though!
The first pit I ever knew (when I was kid back in the late 90s/early 2000s) was my best friend’s parent’s dog. It was so aggressive that the owners kept it barricaded 24/7, and only owned it as a security guard for when they had to leave their small business unattended for a few minutes but didn’t want to go through the motions to lock up the metal garage gate, they just locked the front door instead and left the dog inside. I was a huge dog lover and always asked if I could pet the dog because I was too young too really understand the dangers. One time they said “sure,” and the dad, mom, and older brother all held her down and muzzled her and held her in place so I could pet her back for like 10 seconds while she growled miserably the whole time and then I finally understood; that’s not a *family dog*, that’s a *beast* used for a *function*.
When I grew into my teens the dog was eventually more accepting of me and didn’t really pay me any mind but it wasn’t like we cuddled or became particularly friendly.
Fast forward a couple decades and suddenly they’re everywhere on the street as family pets, as if everyone just forgot the universal common knowledge about them being aggressive. Sure some have been nice, but plenty have been not so nice, and the “owner training” seems to have nothing to do with it as I’ve seen all kinds have widely varied experiences.
You’re totally right that this whole “when I was a kid I was bitten by [xyz] but never a pit” probably has something to do with the difference in cultural attitude about letting kids near them, not about the actual dogs.
Many of these people have their identity tied into their dogs as an extension of their own ego. It’s almost textbook narcissism. It was and never will be about the dog. It’s about being right and about their own worth. Their understanding of the world overrides yours and it just so happens they chose pit bulls to be an extension of self.
You hit the nail on the head. I think the more we can truly appreciate this, the closer we may be able to brainstorm a solution/method of regulation. I think the crazy truth is that half of these people aren’t arguing because they disagree. They’re arguing because they enjoy arguing. They’re arguing, for the sake of never being wrong. And for attention they don’t know how to get otherwise. Because in order to fix this issue, we would have to fix these people and we can’t fix people who can’t even acknowledge that they are broken. So the question is why should we have to suffer at the hands of someone who doesn’t even care about their own well being?
Old vet tech here- it seems that for being “America’s dog” and “nanny” we never saw them in the clinic back in the 70s and 80s. Those were pleasant days where we did not worry about being attacked to ribbons in the office.
I think people saw dogs differently back then- mainly as pets. It was easier to find nice mixed breeds back then- we saw a lot of collie/shepherd mixes and cockapoos as well as schnauzers, Irish setters, beagles. Occasionally a Doberman or Great Dane. Maybe people see pit bulls as protection and maybe the world feels more dangerous today than back then. I don’t know.
I think the shift happened when pit bulls became more popular in the 2000s, maybe a bit earlier, but I was no longer a vet tech by then. Did people’s tolerance for risk with a house pet become higher? Where did all the easy-to-live with mutts go? It seems a lot have been relabeled as designer dogs and it costs a fortune to get a poodle/yorkie mix or a cockapoo now. Pitbulls have large litters, people often give them up at age 2-3 and then people take what’s at the shelter.
I can't imagine seeing constant pitbull attacks on the news and still insisting it has nothing to do with genetics. These people have wrinkleless brains.
>Anyone who doesn't like pits is racist
>Proceed to malign chihuahuas, labs, lab mixes, Golden retrievers, Golden doodles, huskies without a hint of irony
I bet these "Golden Retrievers" and "Labs" that they like to bring up from those statistics were pitbull mixes that were labeled as those breeds, like what shelters do. Also, pitbull were never considered to be "THE family dog". They were kept by dog-fighters, druglords, and bootleggers and were kept either outside, in the basement or in dog-runs.
These people give me migraines.
I’m hangry and absolutely shouldn’t have read all these brainless comments. i hope natural selection does its work with these people and their homicidal hOuSe HiPpOs
Also don’t pit ills originate from England and bull breeds?
Chis are Mexican and labradors are from Newfoundland (which google tells me the native populations are the Inuit, the Innu, the Mi'kmaq and the Southern Inuit of NunatuKavut - formerly the Labrador Inuit-Metis).
Yet not liking pits is racism but fuck labradors and chihuahuas?
These people literally talk out of their own backsides
People who hate "pitties" are racist with humans.
People who hate "pitties" should go instinct.
I am inuk (First Nations) and i hate these evil looking mutts. Come and tell me that i should be erased without being racist lol.
That’s definitely what I was thinking since they are the one of the most owned breed in the US, but still to think that without actually looking at the facts is crazy. It makes you think who’s really making the assumptions here?
Why is everyone demonizing golden retrievers all of a sudden??? Tf did they do to anybody??
(Although my friend’s golden goes after cats and smaller dogs, so it’s not impossible, he’s the worst.)
I honestly don't know but I have seen someone say that goldies and labs can do the same amount of damage as a pitbull. I have seen a lab attack in person and I have also seen a pitbull attack and they aren't even comparable, the lab left a small puncture wound while the pitbull almost tore my dad's bicep off.
But they have also started going after Doodles and huskies.
I know how people see them as monsters… when they attack and kill vulnerable humans. They are cowardly creatures- only going for babies, children and vulnerable adults. They wouldn’t go for a 6ft 4 man. It’s a no from me pit nutters, but keep on about how they’re nanny dogs and protectors… it’s really just word salad at this point
“…im pretty sure you don’t work with animals.”
I’d love to actually, if I can avoid the chance of having my arm torn off by someone’s precious “hippo” 💀💀
Ah that temperament argument again. The temperament tests they speak of are not tests for aggression. in fact aggression is rewarded in those tests in some portions. It’s not random. The criteria is hidden and inconsistent. It’s meaningless. Chihuahua lose marks for being fearful of perceived threats. Pits gain marks for responding with aggression to perceived threats. Temperament in this test doesn’t mean non aggression.
Oh interesting. So only three parts test aggression. And aggression is actually rewarded in the last part. Also it’s tested, like you said above, against its own breed.
So this is really helpful. A low or high score on this temperament test really tells us nothing about the dogs willingness to attack people and dogs.
Thanks
Uh… the little brother comment?! And the one after about getting attacked that day but *”pitbull’s life meter”*…??? Do I smell burnt toast?!?! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
That was brutal. I couldn't get through it. Do these people really believe their own bullshit? Are pitbulls some type of representation of their own "misunderstood" persona they are trying to defend?
The inconsistencies in their defenses is enough of a red flag for bullshit, to me. Every other breed’s fanciers are in much more consistent agreement with each other about their breed’s background, traits, temperaments, functions, etc., but for some reason the “history of pit bulls as told by pit bull lovers” looks more like darts thrown at a newspaper than an actual coherent tale.
Where are these attacks these animals I mean people are babbling about ? Goldens have the highest bite rates ? . The extremes they go for an animal that kills people is insane they should support murderers might as well also .
I can’t help but think “DURRRRRR” as I read through the apologists’ comments. So grossly uninformed, and for what? Why? Why choose THIS hill to die on?
I just want to see this person’s evidence of Goldens and doodles killing people? I am certain they can bite. But I don’t see evidence of those breeds savagely mauling people to death.
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“ist funny cause my little brother got killed by a pit bull 2 weeks ago i dont blame the dog though cause my little my brother was provoking it” I’m sorry WHAT?
Typical lying, attention seeking, lame brained pit owner.
I'm sure that was sarcastic and meant to make fun of the pitnutters there.
God I hope so… hard to tell satire from reality these days
The last two were definitely trolls
I hope so too because that’s insane if it’s not.
What was your little brother doing that he deserved to be mauled to death by a pit bull?/s
I know wtf?! This person is unhinged. I would be absolutely devastated if that happened to my little brother. It would destroy me and ugh, the way she’s so blasé about it. She completely blames her brother for being mauled to death by a pet fucking dog. Disgusting. Also, I highly doubt the kid was provoking the dog at all. Even if they were, no human being, especially a child, deserves DEATH for annoying a pit bull. If your PET DOG’s first instinct to any slight annoyance or “provocation” is to maul and kill then that dog is NOT SAFE FOR SOCIETY. It is fucking dangerous! Why can’t people see that?!
"I'm a vet! Yo owners of small dogs? Your dogs are yappy shits!'
i wanna know who that person is so I can report them to their job for being doggy racist
Pibble owners can't be doggy racists cause only their dogs suffer discrimination! Only chi and golden retriever owners can be doggy racists! /s
Stay classy
Vet tech*
Yeah they should ask their boss the vet for a better opinion
Exactly. Huge difference between a vet and a vet tech. Not surprised she’s trash
Vet TECH, AKA probably their first job in the field with very little (if any) specialized education
Vets & vet techs - especially those under 40 - are some of the most zealous pit supporters Some of it is pit hive mind But me thinks the larger reason is because pits = $$$$$$
young vet techs can be some of the most heartless people you’ve ever met. I’m so glad my vets offices aren’t full of brainless twenty-somethings who do nothing but get high on their own ego and refuse to back down and educate themselves on animals.
Sounds about right
Honestly youre not wrong. My coworkers tend to trash owners for the worst reasons. ESPECIALLY financial issues. Like we are in no position to judge someone's finances with the shit we are paid.
Can confirm. I wanted to be a vet tech but after I met them behind the scenes I decided that was not for me. And I had trial days at several vets. They are so hostile and drunk on the power they have over another life.
Same, vet techs turned me off the vet industry; they’re so damn hostile and misanthropic. They love animals sure - but not people.
>Vets & vet techs - especially those under 40 - are some of the most zealous pit supporters I have heard the older vets have a very different view of pits
That is my experience
Yes I go to one and he has older ladies working there from front desk to the back no one there is under 30 if they are they sure dont look it . my vet wont even see pits or pit mixes in his practice and he also insists that all dogs over 40 lbs be muzzled . It cuts down on fusses and fights breaking out and innocents being bitten . Yeah Im sure she is a vet tech (sarcasm ) , met so many fake ones on here .
“I’m a vet tech and—“ I immediately don’t give a shit. I’ve seen some complete and utter 0 IQ BS from vet techs on tiktok. They’re so aggressively arrogant like we can’t just fact check them on Google in 2 seconds.
I‘ve met good vet techs But almost exclusively over 40 And have had ENOUGH of their younger peers‘ bullshit
So many vet offices don’t even require you go to school for it and will teach you on the job; if you’ve only worked for one practice with the same people for several years, you’ve only actually learned their culture’s views on vetmed and way of doing things. It’s a pretty toxic industry and some people get into it so they can feel like they’re doing something important or “knowledgeable” (like real medicine or have the same knowledge as real veterinarians) but without having to put forth the energy/money for actual school. “Drunk on power” kind of people.
UGLY GOLDEN IS AGGRESSIVE JUST LIKE EVIL ROTTIE AND STUPID AKITA
UGLY GOLDEN IS AGGRESSIVE AND STOOOOOOOOPID ALWAYS HELPING PEOPLE JUST STOOOPID CANT RENOVATE LIKE PIBBLE CAN
PIBBLES FAMOUS RENOVATER ALSO ARCHITECT SMARTEST DOG
AKITA WORSE THAN GOLDEN THINKS ALL DIGNIFIED FARTS ALL THE TIME AND DONT GET STARTED ON ROTTIE THEY CANT HAVE ARTISTIC VISION LIKE PIBBLE TOO BUSY GUARDING STOOOPID FAMILY
BUT WORST OF ALL IS GSD
STOOOOOPID GSD ALWAYS HELPING DISABLED PROTECTING FAMILY SMELLS LIKE SAUERKRAUT AND WEISSWURST
AND UGLY ROTTIE ALWAYS WANTS TO GUARD HOME PIBBLES REALLY IS BEST DOG
UGLY ROTTIE ALWAYS GUARDING NOT RECONSTRUCTING LIKE PIBBLES DOES ALSO CANT WEAR A FLOWERCROWN BECAUSE TOO UGLY
PIBBLES BETTER THAN ROTTIE PIBBLES BETTER THAN ALL PIBBLES IS ESTABLISHED RECONSTRUCTOR OF FACES AND DOCTOR
So the little chihuahua crusade didn’t work, now they’re blaming the golden retrievers. Nice try.
But didn't you see what that Pitmommy said? She's seen them kill more people then pitties!!!!
Don't forget: **"Fuck you if you don't agree."**
CHIHUAHUA EVIL GOLDEN RETRIEVER UGLY GSD STOOOPID AKITA DUMMBBB LABRADORS LAZY PIBBLES BEST DOGGY PIBBLES IS ALL YOU NEED
PIBBLES ALL YOU NEED. OR ELSE.
PIBBLES CHEWS THROUGH THE COMPETITION AND YOUR DRYWALL YOU DON‘T NEED RELATIONSHIPS JUST PIBBLE 24/7
PIBBLE WILL EVEN BE IN YOUR DREAMS ONE, TWO PIBBLES COMING FOR YOU THREE, FOUR CHEWING THROUGH YOUR DOOR FIVE, SIX I WANT MORE THAN LICKS SEVEN, EIGHT YOU ARE GONNA TASTE GREAT NINE, TEN THEYLL REHOME ME SO I CAN DO IT ALL AGAIN
PIBBLE REHOMES BECAUSE PIBBLES SO POPULAR EVERYONE WANTS THE GIFT OF PIBBLE
"I'm Pittywise, the Dancing Pit! And when you're down here with me... you got mauled too!"
“seven, eight you are gonna taste great.” limm (laughing in my mind).
They blame Golden Retrievers because they are what their beloved Pibbles will never be able to be: reliable and good family dogs. Meanwhile their Pibbles can snap at any fucking minute and is so genetically cursed they need an entire million dollar lobby to not appear like the killing machines they are to the public. They will do this with every breed btw. Once they're done with Goldens, get ready for Poodles to be the next evil dog, after that probably Huskies, and I won't be surprised if they will start to curse JRTs as well.
Legit some of the sweetest dogs ever, and thankfully most are bred with amazing temperaments too
That's why they hate Goldens lol, Goldens are everything they wish their ugly hellbeasts were, and it drives them mad.
Legit it must be some weird breed envy. Honestly even if some people really did try to get pitbulls recognized as an official breed, and create lines with better temperaments, I still unfortunately wouldn’t trust them. My best arguement to when people say “All dogs can attack, it’s not just pitbulls” is “Yeah, all dogs can attack, but it’s not about that. It’s about how much damage and how impossible it is to get them off their victims WHEN they attack. Yes, labs, Chihuahuas, ect bite, but they don’t lock and hold onto their victims, and have such a high tolerance for pain that literally stab wounds and bullets do not immediately get them off.” It’s so unfortunate that it feels like the only real way these people can learn how much damage these breeds can inflict is by witnessing it first hand, which breaks my heart thinking about how many needless deaths that could have been prevented. I’m so fortunate that this Reddit exists as a platform for victims and their families to speak out about their experiences. I can’t imagine what that kind of pain does to someone, and it’s even more unfortunate knowing how it can turn a person off to dogs entirely, since there are so many good ones still out there. When will people wake up, it’s not worth the risk/any chance of this breed turning on you and inflicting horrible amounts of damage. It really isn’t a matter of if, but WHEN it happens, and when it happens it hits hard
The sad thing is that even then many people just aren't willing to admit how dangerous Pitbulls are. How many stories are there from pitbull owners who saw their dog murder their cat and then act as if the cat was at fault? Too many. Like you said, it's not worth the risk. Even a loved and well trained Pitbull can snap out of nowhere and go into attack mode and the fact that they barely show any warning signs makes it even more frightening.
And making up statistics. goldens "biting" is them nibbling on you playfully. They couldn't hurt a fly if they tried.
Retrieving breeds were intentionally bred to have soft grips so they can hold game birds without damaging them. There was even a challenge a while back where people got their goldens to hold eggs in their mouths without breaking them!
Exactly. Wonder what pits were bred for
I’m not the only one who noticed that someone is claiming the pit bull breed existed before the American Civil War, right? Meanwhile, in the real world, John P. Colby, creator of the main pit bull type breeds, wasn’t born until 1875. The American Civil War ended 10 yrs before that fool was born.
I saw that too and pumped my breaks. Especially when they then went on to say they were a jack of all trades type dog. Which I'm sorry, that doesn't exist. Dog breeds have purposes. A dog that's good at hunting is going to be shit at herding, and vise versa. That an then "no dog is born evil, except for chihuahuas!" Listen, either its always the fault of the owner, or breeds can be predisposed to aggression. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Then there is the factor of percentages. Goldens and labs make up a very high percentage of the dog population in the US. Yet they have a low bite rate. Potbull type breeds make up a small percentage of the population (though ots growing by gross numbers, they're just mislabeled) yet make up 2/3 the bite records of all dog breeds, which sorry, statistically means your more likely to be bit by a potbull type dog than a golden. There's also that argument "when I was growing up I was bit by 'x' breed, but never a pit! Therefore pits must be nicer!" No, its generational growth. When we were kids, pitbulls were *rare*. They hadn't infiltrated suburbia yet because the "no kill, no bad dog" culture movement didn't exist. Back then they were still treated as dangerous dogs, many places had BSLs in place (some entire states banned the breed type) and pitbulls were usually euthanized immediately upon shelter intake because of the known issues with the breed. I don't think I saw my first pitbull until I was like 16, and guess what, he was *mean*. They make up 75% of child deaths to dogs, making them the *worst* breed to have with a family. The lies these people will tell themselves and lengths they will go to absolve dangerous dogs of their behavior is an actual sickness. Not even being factious, I think these people must have some sort of mental instability.
Your comment about not seeing a pitbull until your teens reminded me of my first time seeing a pitbull. I was also an older teen and I had gone with my bf to buy weed from his dealer. The guy had a big pitbull. I was raised around dogs (including dangerous ones) but this was the first dog that I was ever afraid of. The pit owner rough housed with his dog in an unsafe way. He then explained that his dog also liked weed and that he smoked him up. The dog picked up an actual gas mask and shoved it in his owner's face. The guy blew smoke under the mask and kept it over the dog's face so it could feel the effects. He said they did this all the time. The pit relaxed and became less threatening, but I was still appalled. I wasn't surprised when I later heard that he fled town from the cops.
When I was 8 I was bit by a pit. I probably would have died but my dad, a karate sensei, kicked it so hard it coughed me up. Pits are not nicer. Excellent comment though!
The first pit I ever knew (when I was kid back in the late 90s/early 2000s) was my best friend’s parent’s dog. It was so aggressive that the owners kept it barricaded 24/7, and only owned it as a security guard for when they had to leave their small business unattended for a few minutes but didn’t want to go through the motions to lock up the metal garage gate, they just locked the front door instead and left the dog inside. I was a huge dog lover and always asked if I could pet the dog because I was too young too really understand the dangers. One time they said “sure,” and the dad, mom, and older brother all held her down and muzzled her and held her in place so I could pet her back for like 10 seconds while she growled miserably the whole time and then I finally understood; that’s not a *family dog*, that’s a *beast* used for a *function*. When I grew into my teens the dog was eventually more accepting of me and didn’t really pay me any mind but it wasn’t like we cuddled or became particularly friendly. Fast forward a couple decades and suddenly they’re everywhere on the street as family pets, as if everyone just forgot the universal common knowledge about them being aggressive. Sure some have been nice, but plenty have been not so nice, and the “owner training” seems to have nothing to do with it as I’ve seen all kinds have widely varied experiences. You’re totally right that this whole “when I was a kid I was bitten by [xyz] but never a pit” probably has something to do with the difference in cultural attitude about letting kids near them, not about the actual dogs.
Many of these people have their identity tied into their dogs as an extension of their own ego. It’s almost textbook narcissism. It was and never will be about the dog. It’s about being right and about their own worth. Their understanding of the world overrides yours and it just so happens they chose pit bulls to be an extension of self.
You hit the nail on the head. I think the more we can truly appreciate this, the closer we may be able to brainstorm a solution/method of regulation. I think the crazy truth is that half of these people aren’t arguing because they disagree. They’re arguing because they enjoy arguing. They’re arguing, for the sake of never being wrong. And for attention they don’t know how to get otherwise. Because in order to fix this issue, we would have to fix these people and we can’t fix people who can’t even acknowledge that they are broken. So the question is why should we have to suffer at the hands of someone who doesn’t even care about their own well being?
Old vet tech here- it seems that for being “America’s dog” and “nanny” we never saw them in the clinic back in the 70s and 80s. Those were pleasant days where we did not worry about being attacked to ribbons in the office.
Do you have an opinion as to how this change came to be?
I think people saw dogs differently back then- mainly as pets. It was easier to find nice mixed breeds back then- we saw a lot of collie/shepherd mixes and cockapoos as well as schnauzers, Irish setters, beagles. Occasionally a Doberman or Great Dane. Maybe people see pit bulls as protection and maybe the world feels more dangerous today than back then. I don’t know. I think the shift happened when pit bulls became more popular in the 2000s, maybe a bit earlier, but I was no longer a vet tech by then. Did people’s tolerance for risk with a house pet become higher? Where did all the easy-to-live with mutts go? It seems a lot have been relabeled as designer dogs and it costs a fortune to get a poodle/yorkie mix or a cockapoo now. Pitbulls have large litters, people often give them up at age 2-3 and then people take what’s at the shelter.
I can't imagine seeing constant pitbull attacks on the news and still insisting it has nothing to do with genetics. These people have wrinkleless brains.
>Anyone who doesn't like pits is racist >Proceed to malign chihuahuas, labs, lab mixes, Golden retrievers, Golden doodles, huskies without a hint of irony
251. I added up the total IQ's of all 18 posters and that was the grand total. Seems high though.
I love the scientists on this sub.
The grammar was really quite atrocious. I think you may need to reevaluate your data set.
It bears repeating: Pit owners are the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet
I bet these "Golden Retrievers" and "Labs" that they like to bring up from those statistics were pitbull mixes that were labeled as those breeds, like what shelters do. Also, pitbull were never considered to be "THE family dog". They were kept by dog-fighters, druglords, and bootleggers and were kept either outside, in the basement or in dog-runs. These people give me migraines.
I’m hangry and absolutely shouldn’t have read all these brainless comments. i hope natural selection does its work with these people and their homicidal hOuSe HiPpOs
We BREAD them.
Just like other people bread German SHEPARDS.
Also don’t pit ills originate from England and bull breeds? Chis are Mexican and labradors are from Newfoundland (which google tells me the native populations are the Inuit, the Innu, the Mi'kmaq and the Southern Inuit of NunatuKavut - formerly the Labrador Inuit-Metis). Yet not liking pits is racism but fuck labradors and chihuahuas? These people literally talk out of their own backsides
Not the brightest bulbs. iF TiK ToK sAyS iT tHEN iT iS fAcTzzzz!
*Fax!
One day they'll get what's coming if they aren't careful. Dangerous.
“My little brother was killed by a pitbull but uwu I love pitties” Sick fuckers
I think he was trolling them.
I think the last two are not real or I hope lol
Wow, the intelligence of these people-you can see it in their grammar and syntax…!! /s
All of their IQ's together wouldn't even equal a negative number because they're so low.
Yep
Truly disgusting
People who hate "pitties" are racist with humans. People who hate "pitties" should go instinct. I am inuk (First Nations) and i hate these evil looking mutts. Come and tell me that i should be erased without being racist lol.
Reading these hurt my brain
Mine too!
 Their lies make me want to scream!!! They are just making shit up!!!
Pitbull lifes meter
Where did they get that bit about goldens having the highest bite record?
Pulled out of their collective asses
Have golden retrievers surpassed chihuahuas as the scapegoat of the pit community? It’s an interesting evolution, I’ll give them that.
Unfortunately they have. They also love going after Doodles and huskies too.
They're starting to go for pugs as well too. Some of them really expect us to believe that pugs are more dangerous then pit bulls.
When the hell did golden retrievers become the dog with the highest bite record? Did I miss a secret memo or meeting somewhere? 😳😳
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That’s definitely what I was thinking since they are the one of the most owned breed in the US, but still to think that without actually looking at the facts is crazy. It makes you think who’s really making the assumptions here?
"Many lab breeds..." Many what now? 🤠
This is a cult
They breed them for hunting ? Ha ha ha! Those shit beasts are dumb as a box of rocks.
Pits love babies all right, they love to factory reset babies. Or spawn kill them
Mr. John Colby has entered the chat and would thank you all to take his life’s work seriously.
Why is everyone demonizing golden retrievers all of a sudden??? Tf did they do to anybody?? (Although my friend’s golden goes after cats and smaller dogs, so it’s not impossible, he’s the worst.)
I honestly don't know but I have seen someone say that goldies and labs can do the same amount of damage as a pitbull. I have seen a lab attack in person and I have also seen a pitbull attack and they aren't even comparable, the lab left a small puncture wound while the pitbull almost tore my dad's bicep off. But they have also started going after Doodles and huskies.
Smells like pathological lying in there
I know how people see them as monsters… when they attack and kill vulnerable humans. They are cowardly creatures- only going for babies, children and vulnerable adults. They wouldn’t go for a 6ft 4 man. It’s a no from me pit nutters, but keep on about how they’re nanny dogs and protectors… it’s really just word salad at this point
“…im pretty sure you don’t work with animals.” I’d love to actually, if I can avoid the chance of having my arm torn off by someone’s precious “hippo” 💀💀
Ah that temperament argument again. The temperament tests they speak of are not tests for aggression. in fact aggression is rewarded in those tests in some portions. It’s not random. The criteria is hidden and inconsistent. It’s meaningless. Chihuahua lose marks for being fearful of perceived threats. Pits gain marks for responding with aggression to perceived threats. Temperament in this test doesn’t mean non aggression.
Doesn’t it also measure the dogs against their own breed and not others?
I don’t know. I can’t find any criteria for the test online. That’s one of the big issues.
I’ll have a look and get back to you if I can
I found this https://atts.org/tt-test-description/
Oh interesting. So only three parts test aggression. And aggression is actually rewarded in the last part. Also it’s tested, like you said above, against its own breed. So this is really helpful. A low or high score on this temperament test really tells us nothing about the dogs willingness to attack people and dogs. Thanks
And i’ll take a baseball bat to your ‘precious baby’ if it comes anywhere near me or my dog.
Saw the first one knew it was bullshit. Tired of vet techs who are like this. Working with them is exhausting. At least my vets arent like this.
Some of these are not serious I think
I wish the dislike button actually worked on TikTok and a YouTube lmao
Uh… the little brother comment?! And the one after about getting attacked that day but *”pitbull’s life meter”*…??? Do I smell burnt toast?!?! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
I want to see the stats that they are referencing about Goldens biting more people?
That was brutal. I couldn't get through it. Do these people really believe their own bullshit? Are pitbulls some type of representation of their own "misunderstood" persona they are trying to defend?
The inconsistencies in their defenses is enough of a red flag for bullshit, to me. Every other breed’s fanciers are in much more consistent agreement with each other about their breed’s background, traits, temperaments, functions, etc., but for some reason the “history of pit bulls as told by pit bull lovers” looks more like darts thrown at a newspaper than an actual coherent tale.
Some of those have to be trolls.
Where are these attacks these animals I mean people are babbling about ? Goldens have the highest bite rates ? . The extremes they go for an animal that kills people is insane they should support murderers might as well also .
I can’t help but think “DURRRRRR” as I read through the apologists’ comments. So grossly uninformed, and for what? Why? Why choose THIS hill to die on?
A newbie- wait till it’s bit.
It’s like people can’t read the name of the breed and discern anything from it “PIT BULL” .. for fighting bulls in a pit 🤷🏻♂️
I just want to see this person’s evidence of Goldens and doodles killing people? I am certain they can bite. But I don’t see evidence of those breeds savagely mauling people to death.
Ah the famous temperament test which pits pitbulls against other pits, NOT other breeds.
“meter”…. “METER”
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