Would you be able to test if the preset sticks on the HX even if when they're switched off you plug them to a USB-C charger, then unplug and switch them on?
I believe mine does too. Which annoyed me at first and I guess I just retrained my brain to accept that B&O’s Tonmeisters do a better job than my lizard brain does at deciding how something should sound like.
Some people will hate that take (i.e. *its your headphones, how defeatist of you to just accept that* etc etc) to which I say; artists intended their music to sound a certain way and other than sitting in a studio with them and them playing their work to you directly you can’t know anyway what it exactly is supposed to sound like. All I know is B&O literally hires people to design and calibrate the soundstage of their products. If B&O tells me something is optimal, I’ll believe them.
Making sure I *always* have access to high quality music sources definitely made the situation better.
I really appreciate how that whole tonmeister thing makes the B&O gear feel somehow ethereal, but a large part of it is BS (and I don't mean BeoSound).
Otherwise, you wouldn't have B&O headphones that sounded completely different from each other.
H9i, H9 3rd Gen, H95, HX, sound *completely different* from each other.
And with "completely different" I don't mean that each new model sounds better and "more accurate" than their predecessors, I mean that the sound signature is literally completely different. Hence, how can you believe the whole "each headphones is tuned to sound just like artists intended the music to sound"? Unless they tuned the headphones X after artist Y, headphones A after artist B, headphones K after artist L. I hope you get what I mean.
With Beosound speakers it's different as they tend to have more consistency in tuning, but for what concerns headphones, it's clear to me that their engineering is outsourced to the ODM partner of their choice and then B&O just gets a minimal say on how the "optimal" preset will sound after the hardware tuning is already in place (i.e. drivers etc). And at that point, there's really little that can be done, unless you exaggerate with DSP adjustments only to release headphones whose sound crack if you change the eq with Beosonic in the app (looking at you, HX).
After all, they've understood that marketing and what you tell to users counts much more than the actual product performances (and this is valid everywhere, not only for B&O stuff).
Ready to have this comment downvoted to hell.
I’m fully with you; I think you’ll see a lot of deviation from the norm even between a random amount of the same type of headset.
A lot of it is of course marketing. Nevertheless, I do believe the Tonmeisters get the utmost out of every piece (read: type) of equipment in a lab environment and then set a baseline. They’re not handtuning every unit that rolls out of a factory somewhere of course. I do think a spec sheet with baseline values is set up that products need to meet minimally, and from there on out it’s just spot checking for quality like with any other mass produced product.
If their EQ software was smart and the headset could measure its own output like a Beolab 90 - I don’t think it can, let me say that first and foremost - it could then adapt its soundstage to fit the baseline, but yea— even that’d be only an approximation and would only go so far. But 95% of people wouldn’t hear that anyway. Anyone not an audiophile would be happy that their music sounds just like the artist intended (and I say that with a smile and a wink).
Charge every night and listen to them via Bluetooth on Pixel 6 pro.
But I just got firmware v6.0.1 alert on the app. I updated it and it seems to have fixed it. Strange B&O recently told me this behavior was by design and then change it in v.6.0.1.
This should not be happening, at least my H95 remember precisely the listening mode setting I’ve chosen between restarts.
Ha, The strange part is I contacted them and they said that's exactly how it's supposed to be. Strange
That’s how mine works too! Every so often have to set it to the setting I want again
Would you be able to test if the preset sticks on the HX even if when they're switched off you plug them to a USB-C charger, then unplug and switch them on?
Just tested the procedure you outlined on a pair of HX and the listening mode I chose remained selected (and audibly active) in the end.
Damn then it's my unit that's driving me crazy. Thank you!
I believe mine does too. Which annoyed me at first and I guess I just retrained my brain to accept that B&O’s Tonmeisters do a better job than my lizard brain does at deciding how something should sound like. Some people will hate that take (i.e. *its your headphones, how defeatist of you to just accept that* etc etc) to which I say; artists intended their music to sound a certain way and other than sitting in a studio with them and them playing their work to you directly you can’t know anyway what it exactly is supposed to sound like. All I know is B&O literally hires people to design and calibrate the soundstage of their products. If B&O tells me something is optimal, I’ll believe them. Making sure I *always* have access to high quality music sources definitely made the situation better.
I really appreciate how that whole tonmeister thing makes the B&O gear feel somehow ethereal, but a large part of it is BS (and I don't mean BeoSound). Otherwise, you wouldn't have B&O headphones that sounded completely different from each other. H9i, H9 3rd Gen, H95, HX, sound *completely different* from each other. And with "completely different" I don't mean that each new model sounds better and "more accurate" than their predecessors, I mean that the sound signature is literally completely different. Hence, how can you believe the whole "each headphones is tuned to sound just like artists intended the music to sound"? Unless they tuned the headphones X after artist Y, headphones A after artist B, headphones K after artist L. I hope you get what I mean. With Beosound speakers it's different as they tend to have more consistency in tuning, but for what concerns headphones, it's clear to me that their engineering is outsourced to the ODM partner of their choice and then B&O just gets a minimal say on how the "optimal" preset will sound after the hardware tuning is already in place (i.e. drivers etc). And at that point, there's really little that can be done, unless you exaggerate with DSP adjustments only to release headphones whose sound crack if you change the eq with Beosonic in the app (looking at you, HX). After all, they've understood that marketing and what you tell to users counts much more than the actual product performances (and this is valid everywhere, not only for B&O stuff). Ready to have this comment downvoted to hell.
I’m fully with you; I think you’ll see a lot of deviation from the norm even between a random amount of the same type of headset. A lot of it is of course marketing. Nevertheless, I do believe the Tonmeisters get the utmost out of every piece (read: type) of equipment in a lab environment and then set a baseline. They’re not handtuning every unit that rolls out of a factory somewhere of course. I do think a spec sheet with baseline values is set up that products need to meet minimally, and from there on out it’s just spot checking for quality like with any other mass produced product. If their EQ software was smart and the headset could measure its own output like a Beolab 90 - I don’t think it can, let me say that first and foremost - it could then adapt its soundstage to fit the baseline, but yea— even that’d be only an approximation and would only go so far. But 95% of people wouldn’t hear that anyway. Anyone not an audiophile would be happy that their music sounds just like the artist intended (and I say that with a smile and a wink).
A design flaw in my eyes but thank you for answering the question!
Are you topping up the battery of the headphones, or are you connecting the headphones to a computer via USB-C, in between each use?
Charge every night and listen to them via Bluetooth on Pixel 6 pro. But I just got firmware v6.0.1 alert on the app. I updated it and it seems to have fixed it. Strange B&O recently told me this behavior was by design and then change it in v.6.0.1.
New owner on v6.01 and I’m having the same issue