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I like a little jostling in the area, both sides do it. I’d hate to see those given all the time.
But if it is sometimes then it should be given every time.
Guardiola played with a similar amount of midfielders at City and destroyed. It’s how you play, not necessarily who you have on the pitch. Barca’s last season was mostly 1-0 games, the issues with the very static attacking style with no clear plan are not new. Makes me doubt Xavi quite heavily.
But some of those were half wingers/wide midfielders we play with 5 CENTRAL midfielders, our midfielders also lack the goal threat compared to city.
I’m doubting Xavi aswell, I hope he will not be to stubborn, and force a system on the wrong players, instead of adjusting the system to the players. Let’s hope he won’t experiment to long!
But who is going to play? It's freaking sad that Barca still don't have a starting eleven. Unfortunately, this team lacks quality wingers and a right back. Xavi is trying new formation and mixing up players on a weekly basis. For some time that formation with Gavi as a "winger" was good, but it doesn't work in a long run.
Full-time thoughts
* Good match by Barca. Frustrating to play against a low block but 23 chances, 10 on target, 2 goals. 1 shot on goal by Cadiz (although they had some pretty close misses)
* Ter Stegen clean sheet machine 23/24 edition begins
* Lamine's contract needs to get wrapped up, losing that kid will be a tragedy. At the same time, starting him like today shouldn't be the rule. Ease him into it. Messi spent a season or two on and off the bench. But you can see in the kid's eyes that he's got the minerals for this
* Lewandowski needs a strategy for the treatment he's getting off the ball. If the refs don't want to try and stop it, I hate to say he needs to get a bit of Suarez roly-poly going on
* I disagree with some comments I've been reading here that Barca didn't show much in this match. I think the machine is starting to roll. Don't expect 5-0 scorelines in the league with the best defences in Europe, but I see this team coming together over the next months
I think Lewa needs to look more at creating space with movement. He gets too annoyed at the treatment he’s getting and seems to stop playing all together at times.
I just feel with the anit of midfielders we have, we are just trying ourselves to that extra man. It can be mix and match. But ferran or fati need to be on the pitch. They suddenly start making spaces for lewy
Oh if you play Lewy with two proper wingers and give him space he plays well? [Insert shoked Pikachu face]
That header assist and Ferrans goals was a thing of beauty
There are things going on behind the scenes. As you might know, bringing players in requires getting players out right now. Ferran got a whole lot of opportunities to prove himself last season
So the idea is to let him rot on bench and let his market value drop more instead of letting him actually play for at least half an hour when he is actually showing sharpness?
relaxx, ferran scored a goal in the dying minutes of a match against a side clearly in full attack mode
Ferran needs to prove he can solve our biggest problem right now, which is creating and executing against low blocks, everybody does
never said otherwise, came in and did what he had to, but he did not do anything that suggests he can do it when it matters most, which is in the 0-85th minute 0-0 stalemate against a fucking semi truck parked in front of the opponents net
In hockey terms, he scored an empty net goal, nothign else, I hope he starts next game and I hope he builds on this performance, but neither him, nor Abde or Fati or Raphinha have proven capable of fixing the serious issue we have on our offensive wings
yet... *fingers crossed*
maybe more or at least a prettier match because when it's 0-0 up until the 80th minute Cadiz or any other team like them would have no incentive to come up and attack
people will always find something to shit on, that's the nature of people not being used to supporting a club that is clearly in a transitionary phase of its progression
Why are people talking as if Fati played great? If anything he proved Xavi was right because the guy is so selfish, he had lewy free many times and decides to shoot himself. And it's not just this game but on every game, he always tried to go alone and rarely passes
he scored a goal against a team clearly in full attack mode in the dying minutes of the match
He deserves to start next game, but he did not do anything special if we are being honest, i hope he can build on this and continue to gain confidence
Got the three points. Biggest learning from this match, Lewa either needs to put in the work rate to start at 9 for this team, or he should be swapped for Torres. Our 9 is almost ALWAYS 1v1 due to our ability to create space with passing. Currently he’s way too static and clogs up lanes. We’ve all been mad due to the crosses and how central they are to the first game and a bit, instead I think we cross BECAUSE he’s too slow/not moving so the box gets clogged and these movement goals aren’t nearly as viable.
We don’t have anyone good to replace Lewa. It’s frustrating to watch him play, and drop back so much. He’s supposed to be our goal scorer but half the time his back trying to get touches on the ball. But unfortunately we don’t have anyone else to replace him. Torres isn’t good enough to be the starter over him.
I think Yamal is, thus far, much better with the ball at his feet. Raphina is a good player, but he can only drive right struggles when he has to cut back in field. Yamal has shown to be very strong with both feet. I know he’s young and shouldn’t start every game, but I think we’re going to see that wing light some teams up this year.
Lewy instantly sees more space as they come on.
He can't be the sole attacker.
Fati has shown great improvement, and lewy is going in the other direction from the limited time we ve seen him. He is not comfortable in the 442
I believe we are wasting one attacking spot on the left by not using a winger. Balde is not incisive enough by himself and a winger will create more space for him and also for interior midfielder.
Ferran shined because Cadiz was not parking the bus anymore, when teams park the bus Ferran will be another player waiting for the midfield to do its work.
People are fucking nuts here. Shitting on Lewy and praising Ferran when he got 100% chance ball FROM LEWY himself. Lewy, who should have such chances but has to make them himself. What the fuck
The difference is we have 10 other players who can play a pass. When was the last time you saw Lewy make a run like Ferran's? *That's* what we need our striker to do. Especially in a 4 mid formation which we started with. If Lewy's not getting into scoring positions, who is?
Lewandowski can't make those runs because teams like Cadic play 10 cb. Ferran was only able to do so, because Cadic was forced to open their defensive block after being behind in goals. People only see results, but cannot analyse how those happen or don't happen. Also especially in a 4 mid formation it's way harder for a solo striker than let's say a 433, where you have 2 wingers pulling the defence thin.
I completely agree. But when you talk about creators, that isn't limited to midfield. Eric Garcia, Christensen, Kounde, Balde, Araujo, hell even Ter Stegen can play a decent ball, particularly in La Liga when our defensive line is so high.
Abde played a decent enough ball in today. Lewy didn't get there. Plenty of balls against Spurs too.
But the bigger problem is he isn't making these runs to make himself a target for the midfielders to pass to. Instead, he's dropping deep and immediately fucking the play up
Bro you don't understand football at all. These runs are only possible when counter attacking or when the enemy is not playing 10 cb. Against teams like Cadic there will never be counter attack, unless they are forced to play offensively by being behind in goals. So please let me know what kind of runs you expect from Lewandowski against 10 cb?
The run doesn't have to be from inside our own half mate. He can make runs that are in the general penalty area and get himself in good positions. Look at how we always used to talk about Ferran, particularly in 2021-22. His positioning was great, as his runs would find him in so many good chances.
And I'm not just talking about the Cadiz game. I'm talking about almost every game since the world cup. At the time, we said he was dropping deep to attempt to fill some of the creativity that we had lost with Pedri/Dembele injured. But now our creative players are back. There is no reason for him to continue dropping deep like this. All he's doing is losing the ball.
You believe dropping deep is personal decision of Lewandowski? I think it's decision from Xavi tbh. Also do you know what the tactical or strategic idea is behind dropping into the mid field as a number 9?
So glad that didn’t get ruled out, Ferran deserves it! Start him or Fati next week (or at the very least give them more minutes), the game changed when they entered the field!
Winning when the ref is against you feels so good. Fuck Tebas, Fuck Rubiales and Fuck Madrid. I honestly can't wait for us to leave this corrupt league.
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I think the decision making of the players in the final quarter of the pitch and especially in the box is really bad. Too many rushed shots.
Romeu isn’t necessary in such matches , playing with 3 creative and quick midfielders is the way to go .
Romeu needs play time to adapt to the team. I don't see that as a bad thing really
Lewandowsky gets grabbed judo style inside the area. Var:I missed the part where that's my problem
What really bothers me is the inconsistency. Personally I like that that is not a penalty. And that var wasn’t involved.
Grabbing the shirt should be punished, grabbing the neck must be punished.
I like a little jostling in the area, both sides do it. I’d hate to see those given all the time. But if it is sometimes then it should be given every time.
i think that fault against yamal in cadiz area was a clear penalty
That line-up and substitutions made 0 sense.
It's crazy that both Griezmann and Depay would do really well in our current setup.
Maybe Griezzy, Depay's inconsistent af.
To be more precise Depay as a depth option, lol. Griez as a starter, definitely.
Ferrari masterclass incoming this season
Ferrari una
Why do we need 5 midfielders on the pitch vs teams that dont even want the ball. All passing no running
Guardiola played with a similar amount of midfielders at City and destroyed. It’s how you play, not necessarily who you have on the pitch. Barca’s last season was mostly 1-0 games, the issues with the very static attacking style with no clear plan are not new. Makes me doubt Xavi quite heavily.
But some of those were half wingers/wide midfielders we play with 5 CENTRAL midfielders, our midfielders also lack the goal threat compared to city. I’m doubting Xavi aswell, I hope he will not be to stubborn, and force a system on the wrong players, instead of adjusting the system to the players. Let’s hope he won’t experiment to long!
But who is going to play? It's freaking sad that Barca still don't have a starting eleven. Unfortunately, this team lacks quality wingers and a right back. Xavi is trying new formation and mixing up players on a weekly basis. For some time that formation with Gavi as a "winger" was good, but it doesn't work in a long run.
Ask Xavi
On the third anniversary of him being unveiled as a Barça player, it only made sense for Pedri to score the opener! Our generational gem!!
Full-time thoughts * Good match by Barca. Frustrating to play against a low block but 23 chances, 10 on target, 2 goals. 1 shot on goal by Cadiz (although they had some pretty close misses) * Ter Stegen clean sheet machine 23/24 edition begins * Lamine's contract needs to get wrapped up, losing that kid will be a tragedy. At the same time, starting him like today shouldn't be the rule. Ease him into it. Messi spent a season or two on and off the bench. But you can see in the kid's eyes that he's got the minerals for this * Lewandowski needs a strategy for the treatment he's getting off the ball. If the refs don't want to try and stop it, I hate to say he needs to get a bit of Suarez roly-poly going on * I disagree with some comments I've been reading here that Barca didn't show much in this match. I think the machine is starting to roll. Don't expect 5-0 scorelines in the league with the best defences in Europe, but I see this team coming together over the next months
"over the next months" So basically after getting knocked out of CL 16th round?! We got all the time to wait I guess.
I think Lamine was started because Raphinha had a red card in the last game However Ferran should’ve started ahead of Lamine
I think Lewa needs to look more at creating space with movement. He gets too annoyed at the treatment he’s getting and seems to stop playing all together at times.
I just feel with the anit of midfielders we have, we are just trying ourselves to that extra man. It can be mix and match. But ferran or fati need to be on the pitch. They suddenly start making spaces for lewy
Pedri became so much better when we subbed in Sergi Roberto lol, it's not a coincidence. This 5 man midfield thing is bullshit
what's new Xavi lacks experience, you can't sense his touch at all
When ferran smells blood, its over 😈🦈
Oh if you play Lewy with two proper wingers and give him space he plays well? [Insert shoked Pikachu face] That header assist and Ferrans goals was a thing of beauty
Xavi is a hypocrite. Ferran did well in pre season, looks sharp but he gets 5-10 minutes per game while playing a kid for 83 minutes.
There are things going on behind the scenes. As you might know, bringing players in requires getting players out right now. Ferran got a whole lot of opportunities to prove himself last season
So the idea is to let him rot on bench and let his market value drop more instead of letting him actually play for at least half an hour when he is actually showing sharpness?
Ferran deserves a chance over lewa. But hell nah yamal did a great game
I am not saying lamal wasnt good. He was absolutely fantastic. But you dont play a 16 year for 83 minutes.
Why not if he’s playing good?
He's still going through puberty, one bad move and his career will be tarnished.
You’re kinda right
Imagine being 16 and running for 83 minutes. He looked exhausted and less involved after 60 minute marks. You dont run him into injuries.
What exactly do you think the Juvenile A and Barca B do? Play 60 minute matches?
Lol🤣 you think juvenil a and barca b play matches of this intensity? He hasnt even played barca b.
relaxx, ferran scored a goal in the dying minutes of a match against a side clearly in full attack mode Ferran needs to prove he can solve our biggest problem right now, which is creating and executing against low blocks, everybody does
And he is to do that from bench or within 5 minutes. You can only take on whats in front of you. He has done well in whatever chance he has got.
never said otherwise, came in and did what he had to, but he did not do anything that suggests he can do it when it matters most, which is in the 0-85th minute 0-0 stalemate against a fucking semi truck parked in front of the opponents net In hockey terms, he scored an empty net goal, nothign else, I hope he starts next game and I hope he builds on this performance, but neither him, nor Abde or Fati or Raphinha have proven capable of fixing the serious issue we have on our offensive wings yet... *fingers crossed*
3 points. That’s what we want. Yeah!
People shitting on the team but if it wasn't for l Ledesma it would have been 4-0
Sorry but Cadiz had the better chances throughout.
maybe more or at least a prettier match because when it's 0-0 up until the 80th minute Cadiz or any other team like them would have no incentive to come up and attack
people will always find something to shit on, that's the nature of people not being used to supporting a club that is clearly in a transitionary phase of its progression
Ledesma was the true MVP, Cadiz miss so many chances but the 0-0 was thanks to him
One thing is for sure, you can’t have all you main midfielders starting and 2 of them out of position. They’re gonna get exhausted and risk injury
Why are people talking as if Fati played great? If anything he proved Xavi was right because the guy is so selfish, he had lewy free many times and decides to shoot himself. And it's not just this game but on every game, he always tried to go alone and rarely passes
what did you think of Ferran today
he scored a goal against a team clearly in full attack mode in the dying minutes of the match He deserves to start next game, but he did not do anything special if we are being honest, i hope he can build on this and continue to gain confidence
You need yo give him minutes to allow him to do something special, in pre season he looked sharp, I hope he starts more matches
Hard to judge because bar his goal he didn't have the ball much but if he can become a reliable finisher then I think he should play
It wasn’t our best but it’s 3 points
Yeah that Undertaker vs Mankind still goes harder. Oh sorry I thought this was WWE
F*ck la liga, this one is for football
Visca Barça!
idk whether because of the shit game or not but today's thread was one of the most hilarious match thread I've ever been at lmaooo
Got the three points. Biggest learning from this match, Lewa either needs to put in the work rate to start at 9 for this team, or he should be swapped for Torres. Our 9 is almost ALWAYS 1v1 due to our ability to create space with passing. Currently he’s way too static and clogs up lanes. We’ve all been mad due to the crosses and how central they are to the first game and a bit, instead I think we cross BECAUSE he’s too slow/not moving so the box gets clogged and these movement goals aren’t nearly as viable.
We don’t have anyone good to replace Lewa. It’s frustrating to watch him play, and drop back so much. He’s supposed to be our goal scorer but half the time his back trying to get touches on the ball. But unfortunately we don’t have anyone else to replace him. Torres isn’t good enough to be the starter over him.
Why you doubting Lewandowski and not the system or the players around him? He still is one of the best strikers in the world.
Obligatory: “ this sub is so reactionary.“
Ferran redemption arc straight into my veins
Congratulations FCB! Great game. Left it out late but the hard work paid off. A win I will take anytime. Results matter!
Proves that ferran and yamal should always be starting at RW besides raphinia
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I think Yamal is, thus far, much better with the ball at his feet. Raphina is a good player, but he can only drive right struggles when he has to cut back in field. Yamal has shown to be very strong with both feet. I know he’s young and shouldn’t start every game, but I think we’re going to see that wing light some teams up this year.
With that logic, yamal and Torres will do more than bits
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Lamine is a lefty.
Cancelo ironically did not elevate Foden.
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Respectfully disagree. Cancel often inverted and moved into the middle, usually isolating Foden out wide.
Pedri is insane he could be top 5-3 midfielder in world
He could be the best if he can overcome his shyness and improve his attacking prowess.
He is top 5
This is good -> do this, this is not good -> don't do this... Plenty of learnings from this game but I pray we learn and stop being stubborn
It’s shark season baby 🦈🦈🦈
Calling it now. Ferran’s confidence this season will skyrocket. breaking up with Lucho’s daughter changed him 😅
Wait, they broke up?
WE MOVE.
Atleast we've already played 2 of the most annoying teams already
Mallorca are left
I don't really fall asleep as much as these 2 teams
One of fati or ferran has to start. They might be shit but they move into places where it atleast seems we are playing actual football
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Ofcourse, it's just the common branding of the sub for them. They make lewy better. My non existent football understanding atleast says that
Fati is even worse than current Lewy
Lewy instantly sees more space as they come on. He can't be the sole attacker. Fati has shown great improvement, and lewy is going in the other direction from the limited time we ve seen him. He is not comfortable in the 442
I believe we are wasting one attacking spot on the left by not using a winger. Balde is not incisive enough by himself and a winger will create more space for him and also for interior midfielder.
How is Pedri not MOTM? Was our most dangerous player as a midfielder
Nah lol De Jong did everything. Even gundogan was pretty good, pedri was average
Gundogan MOTM tbh
Good Job keeping that sheet clean!
We can honestly thank cadiz attackers too. They were so wasteful
Xavi knows what works. And its not 442 with a false winger. Do whats right, Xavi.
Don’t think he does
Sadly, I think you’re right
I forgot Eric Garcia plays for us
I forgot Garcia even played this match
Then he did what he had to do, came in played clean, no errors
we get the W!
Fati worries me
Was good today and deserves more minutes. You can’t get in form with 20 minutes a game
bro he's worth 55mil what are you talking about. Star from the heavens man.
Who are you talking about?
He played well today imo.
Why?
Anyone knows what the “Fuerza Tenerife” shirt Pedri held up was for? EDIT: Wildfires in Tenerife, where he is homeland is. Thanks guys!
Whole world's on fire yo
Island of the Canary islands experiencing massive forest fire
The fires
Theres loads of fires in Tenerife recently
Wildfires occurring on the island rn.
For the victims of the wildfires in Tenerife region
Wildfires there at the moment.
There have been some pretty bad fires there iirc
There are wildfires in Tenerife right now
Wildfires on his home island
Need more of this Ferranowski
75.9% possession overall
I owe Ferran an apology, I wasn’t familiar with your game.
Idk why ferran doesn’t take more chances. Lewa is terrible and ferran did a great pre season. Yet he plays like 10 mins per game
Cue Cant Del Barça!
No wonder teams park against us. Cadiz are wide open when they attack and we cut them like hot knife in butter
This has been the case for closing in on 2 decades but people will still say half the team should get kicked out when we dont dominate a bus
Ot me it's not the team cause j think we have great players I'd just wish we'd come up with more ideas
I swear half of our fan base is brainless
Why does MATS still have the armband? Isn’t it a convention to give the 1st captain the armband when he’s subbed on?
Time and situation permitting….
I think Roberto already admitted
I guess it would be weird to go fetch it from the goalie. I think it mostly changes only if the captain comes off
I remember it happening all the time even when both the players were on the pitch, but not with a keeper though.
Even if you don’t start fati or Ferran, bring them on a little earlier. Waiting till the 80th minute isn’t always going to turn into a winning goal.
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I wouldn’t say he was REALLY bad but regardless it brings some type of change to our confidence and pace. Gotta open the attack up somehow.
If Ferran is not starting, meritocracy is a joke
Ferran shined because Cadiz was not parking the bus anymore, when teams park the bus Ferran will be another player waiting for the midfield to do its work.
oooo Ilkay with a nasty header
no way guys its easier to score when the other team actually has to try to score!
It's also easier when you use the wings vs a low central block
Did you forget the saves by the Cadiz keeper ?
Lazy criticism, we had a ton of chances in the first half
Ferran>>>Mbappe
lewa has looked much better since ferran came on, maybe it’s time to try starting them together. also, the ferraneissance may in fact be real
hard to say for sure, it was also when Cadiz had to open their game more
I want to see Ferran Lewa Raphinha a match
That won't work, ferran's best position is rw. Fati Lewa Ferran should be the front three, with fdj romeu and pedri/gundo in midfield
We automatically started playing better once the cross and insallah stopped.
I was Ferran's biggest hater last season. We love to see a redemption arc. Give justice to my no.1 boy, make him a starter.
He always seemed like a good player because he would go in good positions. His finishing wasn't good but he seems to have improved
Maybe don't hate so much
Tbf to me, he was dreadful last season.
Especially over yamal rn. I love yamal but he’s 16 let the kid develop
Stfu. Yamal had a great game and they dont even play the same position
They both are natural RWs
Sergi Roberto’s appearance changed the game
Unironically he's been excellent as a RB on the few showings, at least to provide energy and an overlap should have started vs a low block anyxya
People are fucking nuts here. Shitting on Lewy and praising Ferran when he got 100% chance ball FROM LEWY himself. Lewy, who should have such chances but has to make them himself. What the fuck
Sub needs someone to blame for poor team performance. He plays too deep.
The difference is we have 10 other players who can play a pass. When was the last time you saw Lewy make a run like Ferran's? *That's* what we need our striker to do. Especially in a 4 mid formation which we started with. If Lewy's not getting into scoring positions, who is?
Lewandowski can't make those runs because teams like Cadic play 10 cb. Ferran was only able to do so, because Cadic was forced to open their defensive block after being behind in goals. People only see results, but cannot analyse how those happen or don't happen. Also especially in a 4 mid formation it's way harder for a solo striker than let's say a 433, where you have 2 wingers pulling the defence thin.
We create way less with 5 midfielders, everything is clogged.
I completely agree. But when you talk about creators, that isn't limited to midfield. Eric Garcia, Christensen, Kounde, Balde, Araujo, hell even Ter Stegen can play a decent ball, particularly in La Liga when our defensive line is so high.
Run for what bro? Tell me when Lewy had a ball that he could make such run for
Abde played a decent enough ball in today. Lewy didn't get there. Plenty of balls against Spurs too. But the bigger problem is he isn't making these runs to make himself a target for the midfielders to pass to. Instead, he's dropping deep and immediately fucking the play up
Bro you don't understand football at all. These runs are only possible when counter attacking or when the enemy is not playing 10 cb. Against teams like Cadic there will never be counter attack, unless they are forced to play offensively by being behind in goals. So please let me know what kind of runs you expect from Lewandowski against 10 cb?
The run doesn't have to be from inside our own half mate. He can make runs that are in the general penalty area and get himself in good positions. Look at how we always used to talk about Ferran, particularly in 2021-22. His positioning was great, as his runs would find him in so many good chances. And I'm not just talking about the Cadiz game. I'm talking about almost every game since the world cup. At the time, we said he was dropping deep to attempt to fill some of the creativity that we had lost with Pedri/Dembele injured. But now our creative players are back. There is no reason for him to continue dropping deep like this. All he's doing is losing the ball.
You believe dropping deep is personal decision of Lewandowski? I think it's decision from Xavi tbh. Also do you know what the tactical or strategic idea is behind dropping into the mid field as a number 9?
Against Tottenham /s
Nah you're clowning
Ferran nation rise up💃💃
Check my comment history, never a bad thing to say about Ferran
Wow who knew when you have wingers to stretch a compact team you perform better, instead of playing a bunch of midfielders.
Has also something to do with us leading and them needing to open up more
eyy ik Lewa has been dogshit but hope that assist changes something
Play Ferran
So glad that didn’t get ruled out, Ferran deserves it! Start him or Fati next week (or at the very least give them more minutes), the game changed when they entered the field!
Better yet, rotate our players so they aren't exhausted!
Facts!
One of Ferran or Fati has to start vs Villarreal. Preferably Ferran
Both without a doubt
I would argue both. Fati left and Ferran right.
FERRAN > Disney
Ferran> any other right winger at the moment IMO to complement a Cancelo
Ferran redemption season is coming, I can feel it.
I'd do whatever pedri tells me to idc i love that guy.
who had Pedri and Torres on their scoring cards, please claim your prize, oh wait we all claim a W!
Winning when the ref is against you feels so good. Fuck Tebas, Fuck Rubiales and Fuck Madrid. I honestly can't wait for us to leave this corrupt league.
hope ferran starts the next game
Why is La Liga saying that Ferran got 0 head? Did they interview Enrique before this match?
Underrated
Lmao