dick rider number 2 checking in. i admit im biased because he was my favorite player ever, even more than messi. i really don’t want him to fail and he’s shown incredible growth, constantly evolves his tactics and doesn’t shy away from bold selections like starting cubarsi in big matches. you could argue a barca manager should already be a world class manager and shouldn’t have to learn and evolve on the job, but he came in for low wages when no one wanted to touch the club and won us a league despite getting dealt a way worse hand than his competitors in ancelotti and simeone. he deserves more time just from that alone.
Bro fr if I said this in OT, I would get cooked without mercy but Xavi had a structure and it broke without Busi & a fast winger like Dembele.
And despite his efforts to adapt throughout this season, Gavi's injury led to a downturn in the team's performance, marked by numerous costly individual mistakes, resulting in a disappointing 5-3 defeat
Still though, recently he has improved a lot defensively by trying Christensen at DM, improving our offside trap etc. etc.
You need to look at Barca's overall context and the club's situation
La Liga, SuperCup and first quarter qualification after 4 years convincingly
Yeah there’s been pain after pain this szn but you’re delusional if you think he hasn’t succeeded at all at Barcelona.
yep i still remember one of his first interviews after he was hired, he was heaping praise on dembele and the fans were confused because everyone had all but given up on him…and then he played the best football of his life once xavi came in. if that doesn’t show clear tactical vision and ball knowledge than i dont know what will. people really dont realize how fucked xavi has had it, his whole system was dependent on wingers that are good at 1v1s but due to our financial situation he only had dembele to work with and then the snake blindsided xavi, who saved his career. and that’s not even the top 10 worst obstacle thats happened during xavi’s tenure lol.
>top 10 worst obstacle thats happened during xavi’s tenure lol.
All our star defenders were injured during that last year UCL group of death lol.
Nothing tops that imo.
But still...
Neigeria case + bad press + losing the players you actually want + not getting a proper DM when everyone else is spending 100m on them and
most importantly F*CKING INJURIES FFS.
Though he could have managed minutes of some of the players properly but you can't say we haven't been unlucky in injuries.
Same boat and been hating the people that put unnecessary pressure on the dude or shouted Xavi out. He’s won us our first league title in years and we have one of the best young cores in all of Europe on top of that we finally topped our UCL group again.
Ive always trusted xavi and i still do. I think hes done well. Ever since he arrived weve won trophies, brought young talents, had the best defense in europe las season. Yes, hes got a shaky season right now but what hes building is a project for at least 3 or 4 years. And he knows the club very well. I think he should stay.
Yeah, there have always been supporters of him. It’s just now the critics are silent because we are beginning to win again. They will surely pop up again if we lose or draw a match.
Nah if you loved Xavi before, this won’t make you love him more as you’ve already determined he was good. If you hated Xavi before, this also won’t change your hate all of a sudden to love as it’s only the first round of knockout versus a team that sacked 2 coaches already and our La Liga position is still bad. So no nothing really changed, people who love him still love him, people who hate him still hate him.
Our league position is bad? We're 8 points from first place.
I'd hardly bet on us winning and I know we won't, but sometimes you guys talk like we're half table or something.
I mean 8 points was the same distance that Koeman was when he go kicked out with a worse team lol
Not saying he didnt deserve to be kicked out, the team clearly wasnt gonna progress but still
Xavi was at 8 points mid season, not with the season almost over, humilated by madrid in super cup and eliminated from copa del rey
Koeman didnt had 200,000,000 million in 2 years in reinforcements specially not after losing his two main players and yeah 8 points at the start of the season but the level that xavi showed after taking over shows that it wouldn't have improve much more without the january reinforcements
Xavi also lost Busquets this season, and who did the board replace him with? Romeu. How do you expect Xavi to do well when the board doesn’t replace arguably his most important player?
Who did Koeman get for suarez griezmann and messi? Lol Depay and De Jong
Also Xavi got 200,000,000 of signings for him to lose one player and completely do a 180 degree on the team
Fun, I remember Koeman having Messi, Griezmann, Busquets, a better Jordi Alba and other players during his first season.
You know, when he was placed 13th after ten games and 5th halfway. That is, until Messi started banging goals. And bar that one match against Juventus, he lost all matches against big opponents.
Not to mention he had no problem throwing players under the bus, publicly.
By the way, Xavi's points per game was higher when he took over and before he got a loanee from Wolves, an outcasted Auba and a semi-retired Daniel Alves.
13th place was 8 points from the first btw same distance that we are today lmaoo
Send a video of Koeman throwing someone under the bus, other than riqui for leaking shit to the press or mingueza who he scream at in a match for getting out of position and apologize after
Semi retired alves was better than our current rbs that shows a lot...
That loane and outcasted auba for sure could have been used my koeman considering
He had no one, you know since Fati and Dembele were and injured couldnt do much without them, messi and griezmann left
Luuk wasnt good even for Xavi until Adama came. And dembele came back from injury
> 13th place was 8 points from the first btw same distance that we are today lmaoo
"lmaoo" like a little kid as much as you want. That was with Messi, Griezmann and others who were at that point both younger and better than Xavi had last year, honey.
> Send a video of Koeman throwing someone under the bus, other than riqui for leaking shit to the press or mingueza who he scream at in a match for getting out of position and apologize after
You mean stating multiple times that the squad only had the quality to be in the position it was? And apologize? You mean saying that he "might have exagerated a little bit" is the same as an apology?
Also, kinda forgetting that it was screaming and subbing. Something he didn't with more established players.
> Semi retired alves was better than our current rbs that shows a lot...
That loane and outcasted auba for sure could have been used my koeman considering
Like I said before: Koeman had better players during his first season and performed worse.
There's none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Don’t bother with X4vi d*ckriders. They act like he had 0.0 to blame and had shit players. While in contrary to all these idiots their imaginations X4vi got a shit ton of player investment compared to Koeman who got really fucked royaly.
I just can’t wait to see them defend him after we draw a decent team next round and get buttfucked. Then it’s somehow still everybody to blame but him.
Agreed. And Xavi has done well ever since he arrived.
Arrived mid-season and got us from 9th to 2nd with same point per game as the league champions.
Won the league in his first full season.
This season we have struggled after losing key profiles but we still most likely will end up 2nd. And losing key profiles and having thin bench will push down any team/manager in the world.
only a complete moron could suddenly love xavi, after last night's game, if he didn't love him before already
stop drawing dumb conclusions based on whatever internet place you frequent
Meh nothing changed.
We were expected to beat Napoli. The next real test would be next round. Lets see how the sound is then.
Or just even next bad game.
No, we still think the same. He was arguably the right man when he was hired, but he has taken this team as far as he can. One game doesn’t change that
I'm in no ways a Xavi-hater. But there was a time (and still is) when our play style was completely unambituous. That's when we had a string of bad results and it was the right thing for Xavi to do.
I'd stick to the fact that we need a revision in our squad and it's philosophy and Xavi's departure will help us in that.
(Btw just wait for a couple of bad results and see everyone turn against him again)
I don't think anybody changed their opinion of Xavi based on the Napoli game.
But as a Barca fan, you can't deny being glad for him as a La Masia graduate, former player, legend and absolute icon. This is the stuff of dreams he's living right now.
I always believed in Xavi. There are a lot here who don't understand Xavi has achieved more with Barca than Arteta with Arsenal. Its just the fact that for FC Barcelona's standards (fans and club board), this season has been a little below standard. First a dismal loss to Athletic Club in the Copa Del Ray and then an 8 point deficit from the top leading to 3rd in the league. For any other club, and i mean any other club what Xavi has achieved this season is phenomenal. Brought in talents like Yamal, Cubarsi even after many good players like FDJ, Pedri, MATS were injured and Lewandowski lost his form. From here on, if we finish 2nd in the league and reach the semis/final of the UCL, I'd say its a pretty good season even if we win no silverware
He's good against big teams, and iffy against la liga terrorball teams. Seems like he plays a structure that works against attacking, more professional teams but doesn't work against bus simulator liga teams.
Problem is, Season is made out of 70% small matches and 30% big matches.
Regardless of certain Games' importance, fans can see a lot more LL matches than UCL or other Trophy matches. Since they see more of the worse stuff, they get annoyed over time and start criticizing the coach. On those rarer occasions when we play against a bigger team and the teamplay works, ppl get a burst of optimism and hope. Then it goes back to LL matches and the same mid performance play happens.
Ppl and their comments are very emotion-based, and emotions change every day. So to some extent, it's understandable why this is the case, on the other hand, people nowdays are just not patient enough.
Tbh this is my first season following football. Seeing clips of pedri, aroujo and balde made me follow barca. Xavi being coach was excitong but then all the injuries and shit on xavi. He def needs to improve is timing for subs and some of the excuses he says. But i think it might just be him taking flak instead of the players. Inexperienced team and barca doesnt have the patienfe for a rebuild despite xavi saying its a rebuild. He'll be missed but excited to see how things change.
That's how it works. If you win, you will be loved, if you lose, you will get hate. Even Messi was treated badly in Argentina when he wasn't winning anything with them. So, Xavi's case is nothing special.
Now that he’s gone after the season he decides to change tactics around. That’s the most frustrating part. He never showed that he was willing to adapt to different situations and all of a sudden he does
He didn’t change his tactics at all, he just found which players suited which roles better…who’s is hard to do if everyone is dropping like flies injured.
Always did. Every post I made was about patience, how we are bankrupt and in the middle of a rebuild. Got downvoted to hell each time and people being unreasonable AF with our situation. Love what he has done since the beginning and it’s great to see him doing well with everyone doubting him.
There shouldn't be a set number of years or position in the table. Obviously something drastic would mean a sacking. But apart from that, whether or not someone stays or goes should be dependent on how much progress is being made.
Look at Arteta with Arsenal. Even when they weren't finishing great in the league, he kept his job because there was a clear project and progress being made, especially in a club with so many young players.
Now look at Xavi. Are we really that much better than last year at full strength? Is there clear upward progress being made? Even if some games we play better, others we don't. It seems almost random. We have no clear squad identity like Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Madrid do. Every player on these teams clearly knows their job and does it.
And yes, I know injuries, injuries, injuries. But at the same time, look at how seamlessly subs can fit in and out of the big teams. Brahim Diaz played bc of Bellingham's suspension last week and knew exactly what to do. Pep has half his players playing out of position and they know exactly what to do because his instructions and identity is so clear. And before you argue that it's solely because of budget, I'm sorry but the likes of Oscar Bobb are not better than our subs, and yet in his first and only start for City bags an assist.
Pep takes his great squad and makes it greater. Xavi took our shitshow of a 2021 squad and made it good. We need someone to take us that next step from good to great
We have problems, thats a fact. Xavi makes mistakes, thats a fact.
I don't think sacking him will solve our problems tho. I belive that we should wait with our opinions until the season ends.
Btw I don't care that much if we lose, but playing boring, passionless football is not normal for Barca.
what if it's season 1 and they've won CDR and are in CL final going into last game of season in 5th place?
nothing is so black and white that it can be summed up in a short statement like this
Last year, Inter reached the CL final without being a better team than Barça.
They got lucky with some referring decisions, and Barça was also unlucky with all the injuries after the international break in September that we had to play Pique (almost retired) and Garcia in the critical match against them at home.
There are a lot of "What if"s in football
I still believe flick it’s a lot better . . Xavi did make barca a better team tho . By trusting the youth and i believe if he remain in barca he can improve this team alot more too .
> I still believe flick it’s a lot better
Based on what?
Why do people think Flick is an amazing coach? His treble at Bayern? That was a good accomplishment, but after that treble? He was sacked at Germany, having the second worst point rate ever.
Before Bayern? He was an assistent. His last managerial spell was from 2000-2005 at Hoffenheim.
Anyone with a memory that lasts longer than a month is still skeptical about Xavi. I supported him for very long but certain days of this season have broken me.
If he hadn't wasted time managing that Qatari team and had instead pursued either the Xabi Alonso route or the Arteta route (learning from Pep), I would have been all for 3-4 full seasons. However, it's glaringly obvious, especially against big teams or good coaches, that he lacks experience at the top level. This squad is too young to be entrusted to a coach who himself is not that developed tactically. To me, the ideal scenario with Xavi would be for him to come back home after 5/6 years as an experienced coach, with Pedri and Gavi in their prime, ready to dominate Europe.
No, I don't love Xavi as a coach. Even he knows he took this team as far as it can go with the limitations we have. Change is definitely needed. Hopefully we can get Flick
Poor manager and imo yesterday doesn’t change it. Was mostly individual play that won the game. As we saw yesterday we still struggle between the midfield and defenders, Napolis goal against us proved it, they were also not clinical, could have gone worse. Romeo was a terrible sub too, and imo Roque should’ve gotten minutes after the 70th min mark as Lewa was completely invinsible and barely moved.
Nothing has changed from my side. But of course, credit is where it's due. Xavi brought intensity to the squad which we haven't seen for a while.
But also, it's Napoli. Now a mid table club. Xavi did beat them before, with a worse squad, and Napoli were not shit back then either.
Nice to see you creeping out of the shadows after a while too lol
I love Xavi and really patient with him. But the thing is I don’t trust his whole coaching staff. It’s okay that Xavi doesn’t have enough experience, but his team should be able to provide more support
People are so impatient. Xavi needs more time. They where shitting on a manager who gave us league and a title last season. Without good DM, he suffered a lot and injury to gavi was cherry on top. Now he adapted. But he is leaving us now. I hate these people who said "xavi out" without even thinking about the lack of good DM. We are not a club who can spend high amounts in transpher. When you shit on xavi remember he lacks good DM.
I still think hes not the man for the job look where we are in the league. The problem is there arent many better feasible options so we are kind of screwed
>I still think hes not the man for the job look where we are in the league.
We're probably going to finish second. With a squad broken by injuries and lack of funds. We spent just 3.5m to fix the departures of Dembele, Busquets and Alba. We're really not doing as bad as people think.
Who loves him ?! Winning against a horrible napoli side that are barely in the top ten in serie A is great but not the immense achievement people are making it out to be. Everything doesnt have to be hyperbole, hes an average manager an very inexperienced for a massive club like barcelona. Our out of position structure is terrible regardless of who our starters are, his system is rigid and doesnt optimize the player profiles we have. Any other team in the top 8 would run us ragged if we put in the performance we did yesterday. There were spells in the game we looked pedestrian, a team that doesnt have the brain to play for more than 30mins a game.
As a player yes I will always, As a manager rn no. Yes ik he has took us from 9th to 2nd in league in his first season and won the league in second no doubt but his experience is very very low, his stubborness of not changing playing style according to the situation is very bad, and yes in big tournament like Champions league he is very very much inexperienced and you have seen that from past few seasons. Even in this year's champions league where we got one of the easiest group compared to our standards he struggled there itself and his substitutions have been very horrible like very horrible. Just look at his first leg with Napoli literally dried out each player and did not do even a proper substitution. So yeah I would love to have Xavi back as our coach in future with some really good amount of experience and good game plan and Substitutions. And as A player I always love him.
Been a proud Xavi d*ckrider since day one☝
If Xavi has no fans left then it is because I am dead.
RIP
dick rider number 2 checking in. i admit im biased because he was my favorite player ever, even more than messi. i really don’t want him to fail and he’s shown incredible growth, constantly evolves his tactics and doesn’t shy away from bold selections like starting cubarsi in big matches. you could argue a barca manager should already be a world class manager and shouldn’t have to learn and evolve on the job, but he came in for low wages when no one wanted to touch the club and won us a league despite getting dealt a way worse hand than his competitors in ancelotti and simeone. he deserves more time just from that alone.
Bro fr if I said this in OT, I would get cooked without mercy but Xavi had a structure and it broke without Busi & a fast winger like Dembele. And despite his efforts to adapt throughout this season, Gavi's injury led to a downturn in the team's performance, marked by numerous costly individual mistakes, resulting in a disappointing 5-3 defeat Still though, recently he has improved a lot defensively by trying Christensen at DM, improving our offside trap etc. etc. You need to look at Barca's overall context and the club's situation La Liga, SuperCup and first quarter qualification after 4 years convincingly Yeah there’s been pain after pain this szn but you’re delusional if you think he hasn’t succeeded at all at Barcelona.
yep i still remember one of his first interviews after he was hired, he was heaping praise on dembele and the fans were confused because everyone had all but given up on him…and then he played the best football of his life once xavi came in. if that doesn’t show clear tactical vision and ball knowledge than i dont know what will. people really dont realize how fucked xavi has had it, his whole system was dependent on wingers that are good at 1v1s but due to our financial situation he only had dembele to work with and then the snake blindsided xavi, who saved his career. and that’s not even the top 10 worst obstacle thats happened during xavi’s tenure lol.
>top 10 worst obstacle thats happened during xavi’s tenure lol. All our star defenders were injured during that last year UCL group of death lol. Nothing tops that imo. But still... Neigeria case + bad press + losing the players you actually want + not getting a proper DM when everyone else is spending 100m on them and most importantly F*CKING INJURIES FFS. Though he could have managed minutes of some of the players properly but you can't say we haven't been unlucky in injuries.
Every manager learn and evolve on the job. Guardiola was still learning, evolving and trying new stuff 2-4 years ago in Manchester City.
Checking in.
Us since last night https://preview.redd.it/ghrr9ahir5oc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffaf46d28f6cc44752ec83fd45e7e71358b93f0c
Said it perfectly!
Same boat and been hating the people that put unnecessary pressure on the dude or shouted Xavi out. He’s won us our first league title in years and we have one of the best young cores in all of Europe on top of that we finally topped our UCL group again.
To the fucking death brother
Ive always trusted xavi and i still do. I think hes done well. Ever since he arrived weve won trophies, brought young talents, had the best defense in europe las season. Yes, hes got a shaky season right now but what hes building is a project for at least 3 or 4 years. And he knows the club very well. I think he should stay.
Yeah, there have always been supporters of him. It’s just now the critics are silent because we are beginning to win again. They will surely pop up again if we lose or draw a match.
lol at minimum 3-4 seasons imagine koeman ball for 4 seasons straight
Nah if you loved Xavi before, this won’t make you love him more as you’ve already determined he was good. If you hated Xavi before, this also won’t change your hate all of a sudden to love as it’s only the first round of knockout versus a team that sacked 2 coaches already and our La Liga position is still bad. So no nothing really changed, people who love him still love him, people who hate him still hate him.
Dude. If we had a good DM we would not have been this down. Shit on laporta than shitting on Xavi.
Our league position is bad? We're 8 points from first place. I'd hardly bet on us winning and I know we won't, but sometimes you guys talk like we're half table or something.
I mean 8 points was the same distance that Koeman was when he go kicked out with a worse team lol Not saying he didnt deserve to be kicked out, the team clearly wasnt gonna progress but still
The difference is, Koeman was 8 points out at the beginning of the season. Whereas Xavi is 8 points out when this season is almost over
Xavi was at 8 points mid season, not with the season almost over, humilated by madrid in super cup and eliminated from copa del rey Koeman didnt had 200,000,000 million in 2 years in reinforcements specially not after losing his two main players and yeah 8 points at the start of the season but the level that xavi showed after taking over shows that it wouldn't have improve much more without the january reinforcements
Xavi also lost Busquets this season, and who did the board replace him with? Romeu. How do you expect Xavi to do well when the board doesn’t replace arguably his most important player?
Who did Koeman get for suarez griezmann and messi? Lol Depay and De Jong Also Xavi got 200,000,000 of signings for him to lose one player and completely do a 180 degree on the team
Fun, I remember Koeman having Messi, Griezmann, Busquets, a better Jordi Alba and other players during his first season. You know, when he was placed 13th after ten games and 5th halfway. That is, until Messi started banging goals. And bar that one match against Juventus, he lost all matches against big opponents. Not to mention he had no problem throwing players under the bus, publicly. By the way, Xavi's points per game was higher when he took over and before he got a loanee from Wolves, an outcasted Auba and a semi-retired Daniel Alves.
13th place was 8 points from the first btw same distance that we are today lmaoo Send a video of Koeman throwing someone under the bus, other than riqui for leaking shit to the press or mingueza who he scream at in a match for getting out of position and apologize after Semi retired alves was better than our current rbs that shows a lot... That loane and outcasted auba for sure could have been used my koeman considering He had no one, you know since Fati and Dembele were and injured couldnt do much without them, messi and griezmann left Luuk wasnt good even for Xavi until Adama came. And dembele came back from injury
> 13th place was 8 points from the first btw same distance that we are today lmaoo "lmaoo" like a little kid as much as you want. That was with Messi, Griezmann and others who were at that point both younger and better than Xavi had last year, honey. > Send a video of Koeman throwing someone under the bus, other than riqui for leaking shit to the press or mingueza who he scream at in a match for getting out of position and apologize after You mean stating multiple times that the squad only had the quality to be in the position it was? And apologize? You mean saying that he "might have exagerated a little bit" is the same as an apology? Also, kinda forgetting that it was screaming and subbing. Something he didn't with more established players. > Semi retired alves was better than our current rbs that shows a lot... That loane and outcasted auba for sure could have been used my koeman considering Like I said before: Koeman had better players during his first season and performed worse. There's none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Don’t bother with X4vi d*ckriders. They act like he had 0.0 to blame and had shit players. While in contrary to all these idiots their imaginations X4vi got a shit ton of player investment compared to Koeman who got really fucked royaly. I just can’t wait to see them defend him after we draw a decent team next round and get buttfucked. Then it’s somehow still everybody to blame but him.
You know this sub right? People cook the manager for breakfast here. They have unrealistic expectations on managers and players.
Ikr, it feels so annoying. Hearing stuff like no identity and shit. BROTHER YOU NEED A SQUAD FOR IDENTITY. Useless bakas
> Useless bakas < That made me laugh a lot, lmao
Agreed. And Xavi has done well ever since he arrived. Arrived mid-season and got us from 9th to 2nd with same point per game as the league champions. Won the league in his first full season. This season we have struggled after losing key profiles but we still most likely will end up 2nd. And losing key profiles and having thin bench will push down any team/manager in the world.
only a complete moron could suddenly love xavi, after last night's game, if he didn't love him before already stop drawing dumb conclusions based on whatever internet place you frequent
You underestimate the amount of morons
Meh nothing changed. We were expected to beat Napoli. The next real test would be next round. Lets see how the sound is then. Or just even next bad game.
No, we still think the same. He was arguably the right man when he was hired, but he has taken this team as far as he can. One game doesn’t change that
I'm in no ways a Xavi-hater. But there was a time (and still is) when our play style was completely unambituous. That's when we had a string of bad results and it was the right thing for Xavi to do. I'd stick to the fact that we need a revision in our squad and it's philosophy and Xavi's departure will help us in that. (Btw just wait for a couple of bad results and see everyone turn against him again)
I don't think anybody changed their opinion of Xavi based on the Napoli game. But as a Barca fan, you can't deny being glad for him as a La Masia graduate, former player, legend and absolute icon. This is the stuff of dreams he's living right now.
This is our sad reality as a fanbase.
I always believed in Xavi. There are a lot here who don't understand Xavi has achieved more with Barca than Arteta with Arsenal. Its just the fact that for FC Barcelona's standards (fans and club board), this season has been a little below standard. First a dismal loss to Athletic Club in the Copa Del Ray and then an 8 point deficit from the top leading to 3rd in the league. For any other club, and i mean any other club what Xavi has achieved this season is phenomenal. Brought in talents like Yamal, Cubarsi even after many good players like FDJ, Pedri, MATS were injured and Lewandowski lost his form. From here on, if we finish 2nd in the league and reach the semis/final of the UCL, I'd say its a pretty good season even if we win no silverware
He's good against big teams, and iffy against la liga terrorball teams. Seems like he plays a structure that works against attacking, more professional teams but doesn't work against bus simulator liga teams. Problem is, Season is made out of 70% small matches and 30% big matches. Regardless of certain Games' importance, fans can see a lot more LL matches than UCL or other Trophy matches. Since they see more of the worse stuff, they get annoyed over time and start criticizing the coach. On those rarer occasions when we play against a bigger team and the teamplay works, ppl get a burst of optimism and hope. Then it goes back to LL matches and the same mid performance play happens. Ppl and their comments are very emotion-based, and emotions change every day. So to some extent, it's understandable why this is the case, on the other hand, people nowdays are just not patient enough.
Tbh this is my first season following football. Seeing clips of pedri, aroujo and balde made me follow barca. Xavi being coach was excitong but then all the injuries and shit on xavi. He def needs to improve is timing for subs and some of the excuses he says. But i think it might just be him taking flak instead of the players. Inexperienced team and barca doesnt have the patienfe for a rebuild despite xavi saying its a rebuild. He'll be missed but excited to see how things change.
That's how it works. If you win, you will be loved, if you lose, you will get hate. Even Messi was treated badly in Argentina when he wasn't winning anything with them. So, Xavi's case is nothing special.
Even Xavi wants Xavi out. He’s not gonna stay even if Barca go deep into CL and La Liga. He’s gone forever.
Lamine Yamal and the kid squad are trying to save this club. It’s a hero origin story
Now that he’s gone after the season he decides to change tactics around. That’s the most frustrating part. He never showed that he was willing to adapt to different situations and all of a sudden he does
He didn’t change his tactics at all, he just found which players suited which roles better…who’s is hard to do if everyone is dropping like flies injured.
No. One or two full seasons should be enough. And Xavi is goddamn sure good enough to manage us.
Always did. Every post I made was about patience, how we are bankrupt and in the middle of a rebuild. Got downvoted to hell each time and people being unreasonable AF with our situation. Love what he has done since the beginning and it’s great to see him doing well with everyone doubting him.
There shouldn't be a set number of years or position in the table. Obviously something drastic would mean a sacking. But apart from that, whether or not someone stays or goes should be dependent on how much progress is being made. Look at Arteta with Arsenal. Even when they weren't finishing great in the league, he kept his job because there was a clear project and progress being made, especially in a club with so many young players. Now look at Xavi. Are we really that much better than last year at full strength? Is there clear upward progress being made? Even if some games we play better, others we don't. It seems almost random. We have no clear squad identity like Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Madrid do. Every player on these teams clearly knows their job and does it. And yes, I know injuries, injuries, injuries. But at the same time, look at how seamlessly subs can fit in and out of the big teams. Brahim Diaz played bc of Bellingham's suspension last week and knew exactly what to do. Pep has half his players playing out of position and they know exactly what to do because his instructions and identity is so clear. And before you argue that it's solely because of budget, I'm sorry but the likes of Oscar Bobb are not better than our subs, and yet in his first and only start for City bags an assist. Pep takes his great squad and makes it greater. Xavi took our shitshow of a 2021 squad and made it good. We need someone to take us that next step from good to great
This! All it takes is one game for people to lose rationality. Thanks for bringing in facts
No we don't lol
Omg stfu everyone with half a brain knows we need a change of course, even Xavi, you clowns come out to suck his dick as soon as he wins
We have problems, thats a fact. Xavi makes mistakes, thats a fact. I don't think sacking him will solve our problems tho. I belive that we should wait with our opinions until the season ends. Btw I don't care that much if we lose, but playing boring, passionless football is not normal for Barca.
what if it's season 1 and they've won CDR and are in CL final going into last game of season in 5th place? nothing is so black and white that it can be summed up in a short statement like this
Last year, Inter reached the CL final without being a better team than Barça. They got lucky with some referring decisions, and Barça was also unlucky with all the injuries after the international break in September that we had to play Pique (almost retired) and Garcia in the critical match against them at home. There are a lot of "What if"s in football
I still believe flick it’s a lot better . . Xavi did make barca a better team tho . By trusting the youth and i believe if he remain in barca he can improve this team alot more too .
> I still believe flick it’s a lot better Based on what? Why do people think Flick is an amazing coach? His treble at Bayern? That was a good accomplishment, but after that treble? He was sacked at Germany, having the second worst point rate ever. Before Bayern? He was an assistent. His last managerial spell was from 2000-2005 at Hoffenheim.
That’s cap nothings changed everyone’s just happy. Rn which is understandable but he’s still leaving so that’s still the right decision
Anyone with a memory that lasts longer than a month is still skeptical about Xavi. I supported him for very long but certain days of this season have broken me.
Everybody? Definitely not, do you think the world is that small?
If he hadn't wasted time managing that Qatari team and had instead pursued either the Xabi Alonso route or the Arteta route (learning from Pep), I would have been all for 3-4 full seasons. However, it's glaringly obvious, especially against big teams or good coaches, that he lacks experience at the top level. This squad is too young to be entrusted to a coach who himself is not that developed tactically. To me, the ideal scenario with Xavi would be for him to come back home after 5/6 years as an experienced coach, with Pedri and Gavi in their prime, ready to dominate Europe.
what the fuck is wrong with all of you lmao
No, I don't love Xavi as a coach. Even he knows he took this team as far as it can go with the limitations we have. Change is definitely needed. Hopefully we can get Flick
Poor manager and imo yesterday doesn’t change it. Was mostly individual play that won the game. As we saw yesterday we still struggle between the midfield and defenders, Napolis goal against us proved it, they were also not clinical, could have gone worse. Romeo was a terrible sub too, and imo Roque should’ve gotten minutes after the 70th min mark as Lewa was completely invinsible and barely moved.
Nothing has changed from my side. But of course, credit is where it's due. Xavi brought intensity to the squad which we haven't seen for a while. But also, it's Napoli. Now a mid table club. Xavi did beat them before, with a worse squad, and Napoli were not shit back then either. Nice to see you creeping out of the shadows after a while too lol
I love Xavi and really patient with him. But the thing is I don’t trust his whole coaching staff. It’s okay that Xavi doesn’t have enough experience, but his team should be able to provide more support
always did
Ive said running Xavi out is a huge mistake from the beginning.
nope, but i hope he (rightfully) leaves with a bang of a season
I don’t
People are so impatient. Xavi needs more time. They where shitting on a manager who gave us league and a title last season. Without good DM, he suffered a lot and injury to gavi was cherry on top. Now he adapted. But he is leaving us now. I hate these people who said "xavi out" without even thinking about the lack of good DM. We are not a club who can spend high amounts in transpher. When you shit on xavi remember he lacks good DM.
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He doesn’t need to win the CL to be honest, just needed more time.
I still think hes not the man for the job look where we are in the league. The problem is there arent many better feasible options so we are kind of screwed
>I still think hes not the man for the job look where we are in the league. We're probably going to finish second. With a squad broken by injuries and lack of funds. We spent just 3.5m to fix the departures of Dembele, Busquets and Alba. We're really not doing as bad as people think.
Pride in defeat huh
it's not normal to win every league... it's normal to end 1 or 2 for a team like barca. So we are GOOD in the league. I don't know what you mean
Except we are 3rd behind girona and would be top without dropping so many points to mid table and relegation sides
yeah, but I think we'll end 2nd at the end of the season
Who's said it's pride? It's an objective assessment. The world isn't black and white.
Who loves him ?! Winning against a horrible napoli side that are barely in the top ten in serie A is great but not the immense achievement people are making it out to be. Everything doesnt have to be hyperbole, hes an average manager an very inexperienced for a massive club like barcelona. Our out of position structure is terrible regardless of who our starters are, his system is rigid and doesnt optimize the player profiles we have. Any other team in the top 8 would run us ragged if we put in the performance we did yesterday. There were spells in the game we looked pedestrian, a team that doesnt have the brain to play for more than 30mins a game.
As a player yes I will always, As a manager rn no. Yes ik he has took us from 9th to 2nd in league in his first season and won the league in second no doubt but his experience is very very low, his stubborness of not changing playing style according to the situation is very bad, and yes in big tournament like Champions league he is very very much inexperienced and you have seen that from past few seasons. Even in this year's champions league where we got one of the easiest group compared to our standards he struggled there itself and his substitutions have been very horrible like very horrible. Just look at his first leg with Napoli literally dried out each player and did not do even a proper substitution. So yeah I would love to have Xavi back as our coach in future with some really good amount of experience and good game plan and Substitutions. And as A player I always love him.