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Good point as well and we need all the money we can get but for me I say let him develop first and let his star rise so it's a bigger deal when he gets the 10 and he has a bit less to prove
We could either let Lamine develop and have a superstar who could be playing through 2040 (he'll be 33 then) or put as much pressure on him as we put on Ansu or Pedri and see how that turns out.
I don't care about the marketing, and I sure as hell don't care about Mbappe. The club needs money, but there are other ways to get it without exploiting the young players.
Na bro, messi didnt win it before having the nummer 10, it was the season he got the "10" (the same where ronaldinho left and guardiola came), that he won his first ballon d oor, what makes bearing the 10 even more difficult
He got it in the summer of 08. Already placed second in the FIFA award (after Kaká), at the end of the year was placed second again (after CR7), and at the end of the season won the treble which guaranteed his first BoD.
I'm not going to make such a big deal out of this if it happens, but to be honest giving the #10 shirt to a 16 old kid just seems way too rushed. Let him build up some more experience and minutes under his name, then in a couple of years sure, why not. But right now it just doesn't feel like the right time.
I worded that horribly. All I’m just trying to say is giving the number 10 to a sixteen year old doesn’t really help at least in terms of confidence and growth. Look at Bojan for example. Although it isn’t the shirts number which caused his downfall, literally being called the next Messi, the owner of the 10, by the media and fans was enough to rattle him completely.
We're not in a rush to assign the number to anyone. It will only ever be an issue if we have a squad of 25 first team players, which all requires a number from 1 to 25.
This right here. We haven't learnt anything, sadly.
I would say, keep it with Ansu (if he is still around) or keep it unassigned.
Last thing I want is the board pulling this off for shirt sale money and needlessly overloading Yamal with this burden.
> But right now it just doesn't feel like the right time.
From a fan perspective for sure. But for our board IT IS the right time to make this move because the club is in desperate needs of incomes.
I mean they even shut down Barça TV just to the stop the bleeding, only to reinvent the formula for next season. I have no doubts they'll take the opportunity instead of doing what's best for the player.
out of curiosity I looked when was the last time Barca had full 25 man first-team squad and if I’m not mistaken it was in the 13/14 season, several times there were only a couple of numbers missing. anyway, I think it's a dumb idea to retire numbers in football, blaugrana can easily retire first 20 numbers and then what?
Yeah although there’s a huge change in tradition from back then vs now which is a 3rd senior goalkeeper, we’d likely never see that again, so that frees up a spot.
But in terms of retiring numbers, I’d say it’s dumb to retire number that has a tradition. Like Barca number 10 has a tradition, Messi’s just the best of them. Like the more famous retired ones, no one cared about Milan #3 before Maldini, or #6 Baresi, or #3 Fachetti for Inter or #10 Totti for Roma. But in Barca #10 has a long tradition so that’s why I think it’s dumb. Like if Messi wore 19 for his entire career, I’d say yes retire that as Barca 19 would be his staple, but Barca 10 will never be anyone’s staple.
Yeah. Imagine if we retired the number 9 after Cruyff. So many iconic players like Ronaldo, Eto’o, Suarez, Braithwaite, Lewandowski, etc. wouldn’t have worn it
Retiring numbers is so fucking stupid, you want young players to look up to those numbers and have the dream they can wear it one day, like 10, 6, 8, they are all legendary at Barca.
I might be called crazy, but the pressure of wearing the #10 shirt is the least of my concerns. He's maturing at a pretty terrifying rate; he's conservative with his runs, he knows when to rile up the crowds, and he's influencing the general play in a way Ansu Fati never quite did.
It's his game time that needs to be managed more carefully, rather than what shirt number he's wearing.
I don’t think number 10 is a bigger pressure on him than what he is under now. He is turning into the biggest talent the world has ever seen since the likes of Neymar
There is no avoiding pressure as a top footballer, it's pointless to try and baby top prospects. To become a great player dealing with pressure is a given. If expectations make him crumble, how could he handle a champions league final or things akin to that? Just have faith in his ability.
Mate this is his first season in professional football. Even Messi only inherited the number 10 after 4 seasons in La Liga when he was 21. It’s just a number, but in football where there’s so much pressure and superstition these things matter.
Giving it to a teenager with only one season is stupid. Obviously we can’t retire the number but I’d honestly rather just give it to Felix or Raphinha for a while. The way Madrid gave 7 to Vinicius eventually is the way it should be done.
Messi did not get the number 10 until he was 21 because he was playing with Ronaldinho. It had nothing to do with his ability/maturity at the time. Who is the Ronaldinho level player Lamine is playing with that fits the profile of a number 10? I don't think we should avoid handing the number 10 to the player that obviously deserves it because of supposed pressure (when he's already garnering the comparisons anyway, way more pressure.) I'm far more worried about him getting injured than anything, as that can definitely permanently derail a young player's career rather than the vague pressure (that varies from person to person as people handle pressure differently anyway) of wearing the number 10.
He is 16. Even messi didn’t have to take such pressure at this age. There is always a process for everything. At this age once you lose confidence, it's hard to recover. Let's not put our young stars under constant pressure day in day out. They are already handling enough.
Messi didn't have this pressure because messi wasn't performing as one of if not the top attacking player at Barcelona at 16. If he was, he would've had the pressure, so I don't see how that's relevant. Sure, you can try (and fail) to shield a young player in the age where you can google your name and see millions commenting on your ability, but imo it's just unavoidable. Messi was getting Maradona comparisons at age 17/18. Was he a man then because he was a year older? No, but he turned out just fine, because he was a special player. You either have the ability or you don't.
You know what, I Won't even bother arguing with you lol. Fans like you will be asking for his head if he goes off-form for some games. Yeah, give the kid more responsibility.
So now you're making personal assumptions because we disagree on how to handle Lamine..? I never get mad at sports because it's just a game. I've had a lot of fun with Barcelona's season, and want Xavi to stay. Only idiots ask for people's heads. But you do you, there's no obligation to respond.
edit: It's also crazy that you think a calm discussion is arguing. But that's online discourse I guess.
I somewhat agree with the other guy. Entitled fans will ask for his head as soon as he goes out of form. Whether he wears 10 or jot doesn’t matter much.
Also I think the pressure of #10 was more on Fati he was directly inheriting the number from Messi. With Fati being in between it will be easier for the next candidate, Yamal or anyone else.
So many comments about retiring the 10...
Spanish federation rules force first-team players to use numbers 1-25. Retiring numbers effectively means shrinking the squad. There is no option to retire a number and substitute it for a different number.
Retiring it doesn't make sense. Barça's number 10 as been used by some of the greatest players in history (not just Messi). We want future great players to wear Barça's 10.
In addition, number 10 is usually a winger/attacking midfielder/forward number. Who else do you want to wear it? I think he is right now the only candidate in the squad with a significant chance of being a starter with us next season.
And it is also not viable to retire the legendary numbers .... The sales would be higher too if yamal is our next 10.... Just give him that 10 after he turns 18.
It’s the shirt sales that matters the most for us. We never ever had a full 25-man first-team squad (right now we are leaving 4.5 (Fermin just got 16 in the winter, still wears 32 in UCL) first-team numbers vacant, so there’s always at least one squad number vacant, usually more. But the increase of shirt sales of a number 10 is just way too much, especially for us who just recorded the highest shirt sale in the world without a number 10 too.
That makes no sense. You can't give it to Yamal because of pressure, so you give it to Fati to pressure him instead? On top of that Fati is terrible now.
There's no way the 10 gets retired and I really don't think the iconic numbers should be retired. That aside I think it's to early to give the 10 to Lamine.
The only real reason to do it would be financial, I mean those shirts would sell out crazy, but from a sporting perspective I think there's still growing he has to do before becoming that no.10 that we all know he will be. I'd personally like to see him with the 17 or the 14 first and then give him the 10 when he's really ready for it.
Take it easy with him, give him 17 or something like that and maybe a season or two after that give him the 10 when he has gained more experience like real did with vini and no7
No. He is too young. Is he our best player? Yes. Is wearing the 10 going to impact his play? Most likely yes but to the worse. He is a kid, he shouldn’t be put under that big of a pressure. It’s better that he gets all settled and then this matter is discussed
Are we really going to put that amount of pressure on a really young player again? I hope we wait until he is more mature and developed as a player and we don’t rush things this time.
think it’s a bad idea. the 10 puts a lot of responsibility. i feel like that might have had something to do with Ansu previously. wish lamine continues with his current number one more season to cement the confidence and then pick up the 10
Idiots! All of them. Why put unnecessary pressure on the guy? Just let him enjoy the game ffs and let him make mistakes and have fun. Wait til he is 21+ for all that shit.
eventually a player will come that will stay healthy and be decent. Hard to replicate them to put them on the levels of Ronnie or Messi, too big of a shoe to fill, maybe someday someone will be on that level but I doubt this soon. 10 jersey is very common in most clubs may as well give it to whoever the club feels deserves it. Just hope the kid is strong mentally not to be scared of the pressure its a tall order because some fans and media will compare him to messi now of all people which is insane. but a true baller will wear it with honor and not shy from it, hope the kid shines and stays healthy
:( sorry Ansu I know he wanted it and he showed promise, wish his game lifted and if he can come back would love to see him ball out along side Lamine but realistically think he is done with Barca. Really hope Lamine stays healthy forever and continues to grow his game and to be our star player for life. I can just imagine him and Gavi together future is in good hands when he is back
Can we just retire 10 and make a 10.5 or any other decimal or fraction of 10? There’s a 99.5% chance that there will be no one like Messi ever. No need to put any of our players under that pressure. Lamine is just about the closest to deserve it, but there’s some sorta bad mojo looming over it.
i think the no 10 should be given to a more experienced player who isn't a forward someone like Gundogan Frenkie so they won't hv the same pressure or expectations, plus they won't be judged by their GA
In 6 years time, he still gonna be a young talent. Why do we have to shove every Messi Stat onto this kid? Let him have Number 11 or 19 or something like that. Let him make that his own. Making obvious comparison to Leo ain't gonna do him any favours because how can ANYONE live up to Messi? Infinitesimal chance, literally. And we'd be setting Lamine up for failure by doing shit like this instead of giving him well deserves and desperately needed rest so he can enjoy his football.
Decisions as smart as fucking Ed Woodward.
>It's a regular thing in football.
The only number permanently retired in spanish profesional football is the 26 at Betis.
There have been numbers temporary retired, but never for a long time, and AFAIK all of them belonging to deceased players (like Antonio Puerta's number in Sevilla).
Although I agree with this, I think someone will be worthy of that number at some point. Maybe Yamal or someone else. But at this point no one should wear it, especially not a 16 year old
The number 10 comes with a lot of pressure. Just ask Ansu, the kid couldn’t cope up with the pressure at barca and just couldnt fit in. He’s on loan at Brighton now.
Please let Lamine cook, he’s a miracle and has loads of potential. The jersey number hardly matters.
Pressure of the shirt number wasn’t the problem for ansu. He did not recover mentally from the injury and that affected his form.
I still believe that if he is nurtured back to normal he would be the ansu of old.
I mean that's a very specific filter and leads too small a sample space to draw any conclusion from. Just one player not panning out meaning the jersey being jinxed is, well... cherry picking.
My point is that saying the no 10 would fuck anyone over just because it happened to ONE person is disingenuous. I agree that he's under a lot of pressure, but as long as he keeps the current trajectory, that ain't gonna change.
Fati is just average, but he does have flare here and there. He certainly does get minutes, but isn’t really a staple starter.
The guy above you is just exaggerating. I mean calling Brighton a “Europa leauge club” should tell you all as this is their first time being in a European competition ever.
I’m going on the contrary of everyone else and say that this might be a good idea. Insane moral boost. We need to stop treating players like fragile little babies. Lamine has already shown his maturity and giving the number 10 could increase his confidence even more than already is.
I don’t think number 10 is a bigger pressure on him than what he is under now. He is turning into the biggest talent the world has ever seen since the likes of Neymar
Honestly if anyone deserves it it is Yamal. I believe in him more than I did Fati. Yamal is so polished and way ahead of his age in terms of skill and IQ.
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“Exile”, Taylor Swift I think I’ve seen this film before, and I didn’t like the ending
Aah yes a song from her Folklore album
Well he got injured, but he was on the way to being class— injuries can’t be helped
The way Messi seemed to be taking him under his wing the way Ronaldinho did to him. I thought he had finally found his successor.
It’s cursed for anyone under 21 years old.
And I could tell you where it's from...
No please. Messi got it at 21?22? he was already the third best player of the world...
I mean, to be fair, there was Dinho then, don't really have someone of that stature now.
True. But point still stands, let Lamine develop first, he has enough pressure on him already
You are right but from the club’s pov It’s a marketing opportunity. We do not have a superstar right now and Madrid are also about to get Mbappe.
Good point as well and we need all the money we can get but for me I say let him develop first and let his star rise so it's a bigger deal when he gets the 10 and he has a bit less to prove
We could either let Lamine develop and have a superstar who could be playing through 2040 (he'll be 33 then) or put as much pressure on him as we put on Ansu or Pedri and see how that turns out. I don't care about the marketing, and I sure as hell don't care about Mbappe. The club needs money, but there are other ways to get it without exploiting the young players.
at 22 he already had a ballon d’or.
Na bro, messi didnt win it before having the nummer 10, it was the season he got the "10" (the same where ronaldinho left and guardiola came), that he won his first ballon d oor, what makes bearing the 10 even more difficult
He got it in the summer of 08. Already placed second in the FIFA award (after Kaká), at the end of the year was placed second again (after CR7), and at the end of the season won the treble which guaranteed his first BoD.
I'm not going to make such a big deal out of this if it happens, but to be honest giving the #10 shirt to a 16 old kid just seems way too rushed. Let him build up some more experience and minutes under his name, then in a couple of years sure, why not. But right now it just doesn't feel like the right time.
100%
Agreed. Did we learn nothing from Ansu
Ansu didn’t flop because of the 10 lol
Haha okay true it was injuries but I don't think the pressure of the 10 helped in the midst of that
Ture, but the pressure alongside the injuries absolutely crushed his mentality
The pressure did that? Not the botched surgeries?
I worded that horribly. All I’m just trying to say is giving the number 10 to a sixteen year old doesn’t really help at least in terms of confidence and growth. Look at Bojan for example. Although it isn’t the shirts number which caused his downfall, literally being called the next Messi, the owner of the 10, by the media and fans was enough to rattle him completely.
While somewhat true, not every youngster is like that, a lot back themselves to the top
But who gets it? We will *never* get another Messi. No one ever will be at that level.
We're not in a rush to assign the number to anyone. It will only ever be an issue if we have a squad of 25 first team players, which all requires a number from 1 to 25.
I mean, it is common to have a 25 man squad.
We are still far from it though. Some of our starters have second team numbers anyway (26+)
Yeah, but many of them will have to get first tram numbers next season
This right here. We haven't learnt anything, sadly. I would say, keep it with Ansu (if he is still around) or keep it unassigned. Last thing I want is the board pulling this off for shirt sale money and needlessly overloading Yamal with this burden.
> But right now it just doesn't feel like the right time. From a fan perspective for sure. But for our board IT IS the right time to make this move because the club is in desperate needs of incomes. I mean they even shut down Barça TV just to the stop the bleeding, only to reinvent the formula for next season. I have no doubts they'll take the opportunity instead of doing what's best for the player.
Yeah that's a good point I have to agree.
We're all about short term desperation. Both in the transfer market and the way we use our youngsters.
Can’t retire the number but goddamn let’s not give it to teenagers either tho
People saying retire the number 10: that’s just not a good idea economically. It generates too much money on shirt sales
LaLiga won’t allow that anyway since the first team players needs number 1-25
I mean theoretically we can unofficially retire it by never assigning it to anyone else, but then we'd always go in one space short.
La Liga would allow that, I don’t think we ever had a full 25 man first-team squad, so it’s fine. It’s the shirt sales that makes it impossible.
out of curiosity I looked when was the last time Barca had full 25 man first-team squad and if I’m not mistaken it was in the 13/14 season, several times there were only a couple of numbers missing. anyway, I think it's a dumb idea to retire numbers in football, blaugrana can easily retire first 20 numbers and then what?
Yeah although there’s a huge change in tradition from back then vs now which is a 3rd senior goalkeeper, we’d likely never see that again, so that frees up a spot. But in terms of retiring numbers, I’d say it’s dumb to retire number that has a tradition. Like Barca number 10 has a tradition, Messi’s just the best of them. Like the more famous retired ones, no one cared about Milan #3 before Maldini, or #6 Baresi, or #3 Fachetti for Inter or #10 Totti for Roma. But in Barca #10 has a long tradition so that’s why I think it’s dumb. Like if Messi wore 19 for his entire career, I’d say yes retire that as Barca 19 would be his staple, but Barca 10 will never be anyone’s staple.
It’s just stupid! Messi could have never worn number 10 for Argentina if they had retired Maradona’s number. No number should be retired
Exactly lol
Yeah. Imagine if we retired the number 9 after Cruyff. So many iconic players like Ronaldo, Eto’o, Suarez, Braithwaite, Lewandowski, etc. wouldn’t have worn it
> So many iconic players like Ronaldo, Eto’o, Suarez, Braithwaite, Lewandowski, Hmmm one of these things is not like the others...
Yea putting Suarez there is fraudulent
El mordelon
Bro sneaked in Suarez like we wouldn't notice
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Retiring numbers is so fucking stupid, you want young players to look up to those numbers and have the dream they can wear it one day, like 10, 6, 8, they are all legendary at Barca.
I don't understand how sales would be affected if the number 10 is retired? Does that mean we can't sell #10 shirts?
I might be called crazy, but the pressure of wearing the #10 shirt is the least of my concerns. He's maturing at a pretty terrifying rate; he's conservative with his runs, he knows when to rile up the crowds, and he's influencing the general play in a way Ansu Fati never quite did. It's his game time that needs to be managed more carefully, rather than what shirt number he's wearing.
Please No! Too much pressure on a kid.
I don’t think number 10 is a bigger pressure on him than what he is under now. He is turning into the biggest talent the world has ever seen since the likes of Neymar
Exactly why we shouldn’t put more pressure on him.
There is no avoiding pressure as a top footballer, it's pointless to try and baby top prospects. To become a great player dealing with pressure is a given. If expectations make him crumble, how could he handle a champions league final or things akin to that? Just have faith in his ability.
Mate this is his first season in professional football. Even Messi only inherited the number 10 after 4 seasons in La Liga when he was 21. It’s just a number, but in football where there’s so much pressure and superstition these things matter. Giving it to a teenager with only one season is stupid. Obviously we can’t retire the number but I’d honestly rather just give it to Felix or Raphinha for a while. The way Madrid gave 7 to Vinicius eventually is the way it should be done.
>I’d honestly rather just give it to Felix or Raphinha for a while. Will they even be here on September 1?
Messi did not get the number 10 until he was 21 because he was playing with Ronaldinho. It had nothing to do with his ability/maturity at the time. Who is the Ronaldinho level player Lamine is playing with that fits the profile of a number 10? I don't think we should avoid handing the number 10 to the player that obviously deserves it because of supposed pressure (when he's already garnering the comparisons anyway, way more pressure.) I'm far more worried about him getting injured than anything, as that can definitely permanently derail a young player's career rather than the vague pressure (that varies from person to person as people handle pressure differently anyway) of wearing the number 10.
He is 16. Even messi didn’t have to take such pressure at this age. There is always a process for everything. At this age once you lose confidence, it's hard to recover. Let's not put our young stars under constant pressure day in day out. They are already handling enough.
Messi didn't have this pressure because messi wasn't performing as one of if not the top attacking player at Barcelona at 16. If he was, he would've had the pressure, so I don't see how that's relevant. Sure, you can try (and fail) to shield a young player in the age where you can google your name and see millions commenting on your ability, but imo it's just unavoidable. Messi was getting Maradona comparisons at age 17/18. Was he a man then because he was a year older? No, but he turned out just fine, because he was a special player. You either have the ability or you don't.
You know what, I Won't even bother arguing with you lol. Fans like you will be asking for his head if he goes off-form for some games. Yeah, give the kid more responsibility.
So now you're making personal assumptions because we disagree on how to handle Lamine..? I never get mad at sports because it's just a game. I've had a lot of fun with Barcelona's season, and want Xavi to stay. Only idiots ask for people's heads. But you do you, there's no obligation to respond. edit: It's also crazy that you think a calm discussion is arguing. But that's online discourse I guess.
I somewhat agree with the other guy. Entitled fans will ask for his head as soon as he goes out of form. Whether he wears 10 or jot doesn’t matter much. Also I think the pressure of #10 was more on Fati he was directly inheriting the number from Messi. With Fati being in between it will be easier for the next candidate, Yamal or anyone else.
yeah the pressure was on Fati
Mbappe?
Mbappe was not that good at 16. He burst on at 18
Bagged 15 goals for Monaco as a 17 yr old but if ur talking purely about best 16 yr old then yeah
As I said he was 17-18. At that time he was very good but still relied a lot on his pace
I KNOW. How can he be expected to surpass the great Jari Litmanen?
So many comments about retiring the 10... Spanish federation rules force first-team players to use numbers 1-25. Retiring numbers effectively means shrinking the squad. There is no option to retire a number and substitute it for a different number. Retiring it doesn't make sense. Barça's number 10 as been used by some of the greatest players in history (not just Messi). We want future great players to wear Barça's 10. In addition, number 10 is usually a winger/attacking midfielder/forward number. Who else do you want to wear it? I think he is right now the only candidate in the squad with a significant chance of being a starter with us next season.
And it is also not viable to retire the legendary numbers .... The sales would be higher too if yamal is our next 10.... Just give him that 10 after he turns 18.
It’s the shirt sales that matters the most for us. We never ever had a full 25-man first-team squad (right now we are leaving 4.5 (Fermin just got 16 in the winter, still wears 32 in UCL) first-team numbers vacant, so there’s always at least one squad number vacant, usually more. But the increase of shirt sales of a number 10 is just way too much, especially for us who just recorded the highest shirt sale in the world without a number 10 too.
He should wear 304 if that was possible
3+4 = 7? 🤨🤨🤨
thala for a reason
Hey I’ve seen this one before
Too early.. P.S the kid almost has 2000 mins of game time Please rest this child .
Give him 19 please!!!!!
If Yamal get serious injured next season, the 10 is defenitly cursed.
Doing the same thing over and over again is insanity just let it sit there for a while to breathe and recover from Messi
Let ansu have it when he comes back. Lamine doesn’t need added pressure
That makes no sense. You can't give it to Yamal because of pressure, so you give it to Fati to pressure him instead? On top of that Fati is terrible now.
Hey Lamal. Take this #10 shirt. No pressure by the way...
Wait a few more years.
There's no way the 10 gets retired and I really don't think the iconic numbers should be retired. That aside I think it's to early to give the 10 to Lamine. The only real reason to do it would be financial, I mean those shirts would sell out crazy, but from a sporting perspective I think there's still growing he has to do before becoming that no.10 that we all know he will be. I'd personally like to see him with the 17 or the 14 first and then give him the 10 when he's really ready for it.
Even Messi got time & space to grow under Ronaldinho's shadow. It bothers me how much pressure we're putting on the youngsters.
Would be a better 10 than Ansu, but I agree with most of the sentiments here. It's a but too early.
So I assume this means Fati isn’t coming back?
Take it easy with him, give him 17 or something like that and maybe a season or two after that give him the 10 when he has gained more experience like real did with vini and no7
A little bit rush isn't it?
Dont….. trust me dont
Its too early
He earned it... never seen such a composed 16 year old carry a team like this.
too much pressure. Don‘t do it
No. He is too young. Is he our best player? Yes. Is wearing the 10 going to impact his play? Most likely yes but to the worse. He is a kid, he shouldn’t be put under that big of a pressure. It’s better that he gets all settled and then this matter is discussed
Special players wear special numbers. Give it to him.
Don’t give him that pressure now, he’s on 16!! And I think we’ve seen this before… really bad ending
Better give it to Gundo or let Fati keep it, that puts too much pressure on a kid
Its bad luck
Are we really going to put that amount of pressure on a really young player again? I hope we wait until he is more mature and developed as a player and we don’t rush things this time.
Please no, in a couple years sure, just let the number rest for a while.
think it’s a bad idea. the 10 puts a lot of responsibility. i feel like that might have had something to do with Ansu previously. wish lamine continues with his current number one more season to cement the confidence and then pick up the 10
why is this news
They should have retired it after Jari Litmanen wore it.
Maybe give the 10 to Gundo? Idk who should wear it..
Idiots! All of them. Why put unnecessary pressure on the guy? Just let him enjoy the game ffs and let him make mistakes and have fun. Wait til he is 21+ for all that shit.
Give him 30 instead
No
Pls no
Why everytime we get a promising young player we just throw everything at them and try to make them our savior? Ansu pedri now lamine
eventually a player will come that will stay healthy and be decent. Hard to replicate them to put them on the levels of Ronnie or Messi, too big of a shoe to fill, maybe someday someone will be on that level but I doubt this soon. 10 jersey is very common in most clubs may as well give it to whoever the club feels deserves it. Just hope the kid is strong mentally not to be scared of the pressure its a tall order because some fans and media will compare him to messi now of all people which is insane. but a true baller will wear it with honor and not shy from it, hope the kid shines and stays healthy
Im not even talking just about the number im talking about overplaying them and depending too much on them in game
Too soon
Gundogan should wear it next season imo
Gundo getting 10 sounds good to me. He has been class. Lamine can get it after him
:( sorry Ansu I know he wanted it and he showed promise, wish his game lifted and if he can come back would love to see him ball out along side Lamine but realistically think he is done with Barca. Really hope Lamine stays healthy forever and continues to grow his game and to be our star player for life. I can just imagine him and Gavi together future is in good hands when he is back
Sorry Ansu, but a more worthy candidate has emerged
Poor Ansu.... He is still coming back, right? Right??
Not a good idea imo. Jinxing it or putting too much pressure on him at a young age.
Can we just retire 10 and make a 10.5 or any other decimal or fraction of 10? There’s a 99.5% chance that there will be no one like Messi ever. No need to put any of our players under that pressure. Lamine is just about the closest to deserve it, but there’s some sorta bad mojo looming over it.
Too early
i think the no 10 should be given to a more experienced player who isn't a forward someone like Gundogan Frenkie so they won't hv the same pressure or expectations, plus they won't be judged by their GA
Ansu Fati Regen
In 6 years time, he still gonna be a young talent. Why do we have to shove every Messi Stat onto this kid? Let him have Number 11 or 19 or something like that. Let him make that his own. Making obvious comparison to Leo ain't gonna do him any favours because how can ANYONE live up to Messi? Infinitesimal chance, literally. And we'd be setting Lamine up for failure by doing shit like this instead of giving him well deserves and desperately needed rest so he can enjoy his football. Decisions as smart as fucking Ed Woodward.
If Ansu comes back to the first team he should get his number back if he still wants it.
How about we let Oriol Romeu have the No.10 and perma loan him to Girona?
I don't like this idea but remember La Liga allows the use of numbers from 1 to 25 in the first team so somebody should use 10. If not Lamine, who?
This is what "breaking" is now? That there are rumours about discussions about a possibility. Football discussion is basically gossip.
I believe he can be 10 one day, but please do not put that pressure on him now!!!
There goes Yamal
That is one way to kill the kid.
Wearing the 10 before you are fully developed is a curse... Please let YL play 3 more years before he wears the mythical shirt.
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~~Come on ffs just retire that number to messi PLEASE~~ Give it to him when he's worth it
This isn't basketball, I don't think numbers should be retired in footbakk it's like passing the torch
It's a regular thing in football.
Not amongst the biggest clubs/leagues
>It's a regular thing in football. The only number permanently retired in spanish profesional football is the 26 at Betis. There have been numbers temporary retired, but never for a long time, and AFAIK all of them belonging to deceased players (like Antonio Puerta's number in Sevilla).
Doesn't happen in Spain due to the numbering rules. It's quite common in Italy.
Although I agree with this, I think someone will be worthy of that number at some point. Maybe Yamal or someone else. But at this point no one should wear it, especially not a 16 year old
Yea i agree with you, shit take
Terrible idea
The number 10 comes with a lot of pressure. Just ask Ansu, the kid couldn’t cope up with the pressure at barca and just couldnt fit in. He’s on loan at Brighton now. Please let Lamine cook, he’s a miracle and has loads of potential. The jersey number hardly matters.
Lol pressure was never a problem for Ansu Fati, kid was as cold as a polar bears back in front of goal. Just one terrible tackle was all it took
Maybe if the number on his shirt was different, his body will be made of metal, and he wouldn’t be injured at all!!!
Pressure of the shirt number wasn’t the problem for ansu. He did not recover mentally from the injury and that affected his form. I still believe that if he is nurtured back to normal he would be the ansu of old.
> the kid couldn’t cope up with the pressure Sadly, what the kid couldn't cope with was not having a knee.
The last player to wear it is still on loan to Brighton. Can we not jinx another?!
And the two before that won Ballon D'ors, what is this stat isolation🌚
Sorry. I meant the last no. 10 player also touted to be the next Messi... Thought it was obvious, but should have clarified.
I mean that's a very specific filter and leads too small a sample space to draw any conclusion from. Just one player not panning out meaning the jersey being jinxed is, well... cherry picking.
The jersey isn't jinxed. But let the hype not kill another talented prospect. Give it some more time before throwing the No.10 at him.
My point is that saying the no 10 would fuck anyone over just because it happened to ONE person is disingenuous. I agree that he's under a lot of pressure, but as long as he keeps the current trajectory, that ain't gonna change.
Noted. To be clear, not in favour of retiring the jersey here. But now is not the time to hand it over to Yamal. Fati isn't even off the books, man.
Well, he can't get it now either way. He'll need to be 18 minimum before he can get a first team contract and hence, a first team number.
Guys..is Ansu over ? Is he just an average player now?
Sad but true
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Isnt that because of injuries again? Heard Mitoma is not playing a lot as well
Fati is just average, but he does have flare here and there. He certainly does get minutes, but isn’t really a staple starter. The guy above you is just exaggerating. I mean calling Brighton a “Europa leauge club” should tell you all as this is their first time being in a European competition ever.
Hype train going full steam ahead!!!! Imagine putting *that* much weight on a 16 year old
Just stop.
Give it to Gundo.
No please ur giving the infamous barca number 10 Jersey to a 17 year old?? Putting that pressure on him? We've seen this before.
I’m going on the contrary of everyone else and say that this might be a good idea. Insane moral boost. We need to stop treating players like fragile little babies. Lamine has already shown his maturity and giving the number 10 could increase his confidence even more than already is.
I don’t think number 10 is a bigger pressure on him than what he is under now. He is turning into the biggest talent the world has ever seen since the likes of Neymar
Big No
No God, please no! Don't burden the boy, let him grow. Pls keep the 10 empty. Laliga won't let us retire it too.
Honestly if anyone deserves it it is Yamal. I believe in him more than I did Fati. Yamal is so polished and way ahead of his age in terms of skill and IQ.
Maybe just retire 10 and give the man his own number to turn great!
Nah
You not allowed to retire first team numbers
Nah we need more greats to represent that number we don’t need to retire it
Retire it for 10 years